Pond Boss Forums GENERAL QUESTIONS Pond Boss how can i keep away a human kind of scum?

esshup is correct. You are better served to post your entire property.

Frankly, there are some real scumbags up around where yours and my ponds are at.

Just another point....if someone sets up a Meth lab on your land, the cost of the necessary environmental clean up is costly and on you.

hey guys i can't believe i havn't thought to ask about this earlier but as mentioned not that i didn't allready know this. is that there are alot of wacos out their and i'd like to carry my gun a .22 magnum long rifle with me when i go down to the pond. not just for human protection but im sure sunil knows what a problem bears are around this neck of the woods. is it legal for me to have a nonconcealed weapon on our own property. btw sunil there was a meth lab setup last summmer just past our property line someone called the cops on them and at the river i counted 30 cop cars there making the bust. so that has always been a concern.

Technically, and this should be confirmed, but I think you can openly carry a weapon (rifle or handgun) anywhere you want; it's the concealed weapon that needs a permit. You'd be asking for trouble with a displayed firearm in many places though.

On your own land, you can most certainly carry a rifle or handgun.

I always have a handgun with me when I go to my property; it's more for self defense against two-leggers though.

I've heard of black bears in our area, but I've never seen one.

Thankyou sunil good imfo ill be sure to confirm it. I can't believe youve never seen a black bear in this area. in the summer almost 3 times a week we have them in our trash or in the yard i could talk for hours on just bear storys and i even came close to hiting one on my motorcycle last fall. once we had 3 cubs on our porch they were freindly and where like hungry dogs beging for food they were so close you could reach out and touch them. we have pics of that event if i can find them i will post them sometime.

Well, I don't live at my property, so I don't have as much time there.

Done a lot of camping, but never saw a bear.

Todd doesn't count here?

Good point, though Todd is more of a Honky-Yeti type vs. a black bear.

What about pitching a cheap tent on the dam near the tracks? Put a solar light in there for evening to look like a flashlight is on. Could even put a small cooler out there and some other camping stuff to make it seem like it is in active use.

You would have to change things occasionally for the frequent visitor, but for the first timer, this would certainly discourage the casual trespasser.

Sunil, maybe the bears are scared away by the noise?

That's only when the BIG WHITE YETI is around!

Josh has a well documented infatuation with Black Bears. Seek help already!

Honky-Yeti? ROFLMAO! Thank you, I really needed that. Todd now has a new moniker.

I resemble that remark!

I am not sure I would try to use a .22 mag on a black bear... In all likelihood, you would do nothing more than piss it off. Even two legged folks, .22 mag doesn't have much knock down power. If it is coming out of a rifle barrel and you are using a semi auto where you can place multiple shots on target, them maybe...

18 Pa.C.S. § 6106: Firearms not to be carried without a license

(a) Offense defined.--Any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.

So in other words, even though it's your land, you cannot conceal carry without a LTCF. They are not hard to get in PA, so why not get one and then you can carry most places you like...

Now open carry is a completely different beast. Have at it! PA allows you to open carry in most places. You may get stares and the cops called on you because people are ignorant of the law, but it is completely legal to open carry most firearms in most places in PA. Just stay out of Philly while doing it and you're fine... It is illegal to do so there unless you have a LTCF. Then you can open carry, however many Philly cops have a negative opinion of open carry and will treat you like trash when they come in contact with you.

I'm not near the firearms expert as CJ, and others, so I didn't respond to this. But wanted to. I would definitely think, if your primary reason is as a defense against bears, a .22 might just do enough to rile the bear up and put you in a more dangerous situation.

I don't know much about rifles either, but I thought the same thing about a .22 and a bear.

Then again, if all I had was a .22, I'd rather have it than nothing.

cj,and omaha your right a .22 is gonado nothing more than irritate the bear I know this from experience but it normaly will intimidate them if you don't hit them and scare them away like sunil said it's better than nothing. plus if i do meet a drunk or high tresspaser witch i have met before you never know what they will do. i might of mentioned this before but we also have bad snake problems this summer while digging the pond i killed 5 copperheads. and i did have them confirmed as copperheads. thanks for the advice maby i do need to invest in a bigger gun.

Seems I'm constantly reminded how wrong my first impressions of people can be. Not disputing that there are real scum bags walking this earth, but when approaching a stranger on my land or in my driveway (at the end of a gravel road) I prefer to have my gun concealed. Its there if I need it, but not there if I don't.

Case in point, a couple weekends ago, while we were away, my BIL and a freind were cutting some firewood on my property and got confronted by my neighbor who didn't recognise them. Unfortunately, my well intensioned neighbor felt he had to display his handgun - before any introductions were made! It resulted in some very tense moments for my buddies.

His first impression was wrong. He overplayed and ended up looking like a jerk.

Allen,he is a dangerous jerk.

Buy a double barrel shotgun. Walk out on Balcony and fire two shots into the air. LoL!

I think from reading this thread that small pond is a minor, and while I'm not certain of PA laws, it is not legal for a minor to carry a handgun without an adult present here in SC and then only for legitimate hunting/target shooting...you have to be 21 here, and I think that is the case in most states.

There could be some serious legal consequences for him and his parents if he has an armed confrontation with a drunk trespasser while outdoors. Inside the house is another matter.

How old are you SP?

I think i mentioned this before but yes i am what is considered a minor, and a good shot i'm 14.

SP if you want something non lethal for bears and people try a cannister of bear strength pepper spray.

I heard frozen paintballs hurt too...........