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#312462 - 11/19/12 09:13 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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eric,
I was thinking of putting the xmas trees in about 4 ft. of water that is reachable by one of the feeders and only about 20-25 ft from the two BG spawning areas that I know are there. Is that satisfactory or would they be better in deeper water?
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#312473 - 11/19/12 10:52 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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That should work fine. I would use skinny xmas trees so they don't stick up out of the water. They last much longer if they stay under water.
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#312475 - 11/19/12 11:09 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: ewest]
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I add trees every year as needed. Not all locations need trees every year.

I tie the trees on the post so they hang at certain depths and angles to cover the area wanted. After a year (or at replacement/renewal time) I cut the ropes (trot line string) and let them sink. Then replace to match conditions. Over time you have a cone from bottom to surface (or as deep as you want based on rope length on the still hanging trees). The bottom trees which have defoliated have more room (fewer and bigger branches) for larger fish while the new ones on top have thick branches for small fish.


Eric, I've decided to try this after reading this thread, because it makes perfect sense to me.

What I'm interested is knowing, is have you ever tried to purchase complete lots of unsold Christmas trees? Was out and about this morning and the stands are already going up, and I'm sure there will be leftover trees. There always are. I can't imagine they'd cost much, and in fact they may be free for the taking.

I have cedars, but they're to large to accomplish shallow water brush piles.
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#312482 - 11/19/12 11:53 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Fire...could you just cut the tops of the larger cedars?
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#312485 - 11/19/12 12:04 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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I could, but they're pretty leggy. I was thinking the bagged Christmas trees would be more compact and stack better.

There's an abandoned Christmas tree farm not a 1/2 a mile from me, but I've been unable make contact with the owner. If I had a little evil-doer in me I would just cut the dead ones out. But that's a no-no for me. A property line is a property line, whether there's a fence or not.
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#312488 - 11/19/12 12:11 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Branches of Cedars tied together could work too, but you're right I'm sure those 6-8' fir and scotch pines are perfect for what you want to do. Agree with your property line assessment...you are in TX, after all! If Cedars are as invasive as they are up here I'm sure any rancher would be very grateful for you removing as many 3-6' Cedars from his pasture as you want. Do you have Eastern Red Cedars down there?
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#312497 - 11/19/12 01:42 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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I'm sure we do, but to be honest, my arborist skills are pretty limited. I know an Oak when the acorn hits me in the head.

Cedars are everywhere here, just not sure what type.

I'll try those bundled limbs too. That sounds good, thanks.
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#312500 - 11/19/12 01:55 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Maybe tying them together with wahr would work.
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#312504 - 11/19/12 02:29 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Cut the cedars into sections. I have used them.

I take the trailer and drive to the xmas tree recycling locations the city sets up. I could easily get 500 trees if needed. Never bought one to put in the lake. That also lets me pick and choose (size , shape , length etc) the ones I need.

Also people put them on the curb after xmas so you can pick them up that way.


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#312506 - 11/19/12 02:46 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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All sounds good. Thanks guys.
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#312687 - 11/21/12 12:12 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Will the chemicals that have been sprayed on these trees hurt fish!
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#312691 - 11/21/12 01:00 PM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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I have never seen any negative reaction from the fish. Just the opposite within about a week from putting them in they have fish all around them. Bryozoans grow in them readily and they are very chemical sensitive.

The tree pictured is newly added - see the brown needles notice the bryozoans





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#312742 - 11/22/12 06:22 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Bryozoans? Every time I think I know all I need to about ponds, I learn something new.

Thanks for posting the pic.
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#312748 - 11/22/12 09:50 AM Re: Homemade "bush" [Re: djstauder]
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Edited by ewest (11/22/12 09:58 AM)
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