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#289746 04/30/12 07:07 AM
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Back in January I added 10 tons of lime to my 2.5 a pond. Alk reading is about 35ppm up from 18 prior to the addidtion of the lime.In march with the water temp right at 68 I added 5 gallon of liquid 10-34-0 and did not get a bloom. Switched over to the water soluable 10-52-4 and added about 16lbs about 10 days after the liquid. Started to get a little bloom. About 5 days latter added another 8 lbs to try to kickoff the bloom but lost it. Waited another 10 days added another 16 lbs and got some color about 5 days later added the other 10lbs. Never got the pea green bloom it was more of a brown color. Due to all the fert I stated to have some FA around the edge so I sprayed with Captain and it took care of the problem. Now as of this week I lost all the bloom and my pond is clearer than I have ever seen. I can see a coke can in 5 to 6 feet of water. Thinking maybe the addition of captain that I sprayed around the edge may have killed the plankton??. Anyway I have know out flow of water due to not much rain so it is not flushing out. PH is good,stays around 6.5 to 7.0. Anyway I am lost as what to do next. Thought about adding some Hydrated lime about 100lbs to raise the Alk a little more to see if that would kick it off. Any comment would be appreciated. I always concidered myself a pretty good backyard pond manager but this one is kicking my butt. I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks again.

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Do you have a history on the pond (fertilization program)for prior years ?

Copper products can kill a plankton bloom.

That is a lot of fertilizer.

Have you had the water tested ? Appears there is a limiting factor that is not P related.
















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I have always had dificulty in previouse years with the bloom. Over 10 years I have added 30 tons of lime, 10 tons every 3 years or so. I have not had the water checked for N, P or K. I have read a little about this, great article in PB magazine a few years back about the Limiting factor but cant say I understand it well. I only used about 1Qt of the captain in a sprayer with 3 gallons of water and sprayed the lakes edge about 15 days ago. Never seen clear water like I got now. I would love to send off a water sample, any suggestions on who to send it to. Maybe my local county extension office can do this. Any other advice? Thanks

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Mr.West, Thanks for your response. I am still hoping to get more feedback on what I might try next. I understand that there is no simple answer to such issues but I know that there are lots of folks on this site that understand and know lots more than myself about pond issues such as mine. Like I said, I know just enough to be dangerous so I would appreciate some feedback from some of the other moderators or pond managers. I am not even sure what to do next so any input others may have sure would be appreciated. I have in the past always recd great advise about other issues on this site so I know this is the place to come for info. Please chime in if you have any ideas. Thanks to all...

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Big Jake the key is finding out the limiting factor. We all have a lot to learn about water chemistry and pond blooms.

Georgia ------- Soil Testing Laboratory

ALFA Agricultural Services & Research Building
961 S. Donahue Drive
Auburn University, AL 36849-5411
Telephone: (334) 844-3958 .

See this for other sources of test sites

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92617#Post92617

This may help has some good sources of info

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=96127#Post96127
















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Thanks so much, I am going to the phone now to make some calls. I will let you know how it goes.

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Thanks as I would like to know what you find out.
















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I have made the call and spoke to the professor, what a great guy to talk to. In less than 10 minutes he has provided the forms for both water and soil testing for a total cost of 24 bucks. I will collect and have them sent off by tomorrow. I think this will be the link I have been looking for to determine the limiting factors which will finally help me to start undertanding my pond and its needs. Again, great info from you ewest. I will keep you informed. Many thanks for the info.

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Great job Big Jake.
















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Big Jake who did you speak with? We are starting to see mroe ponds limited with nitrogen and dotn think that is covered on that testing. Look forward to the results.


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Originally Posted By: Greg Grimes
Big Jake who did you speak with? We are starting to see mroe ponds limited with nitrogen and dotn think that is covered on that testing. Look forward to the results.


Interesting you mention that Greg. I don't seem to get a good bloom going in my ponds until I get my first thunderstorm of the spring. I don't believe it's temperature even though the T storms tend to coincide with warmer temps. I'm thinking that means I may have been limited in nitrogen as thunderstorms produce nitrogen?

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If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Greg I don't know about the particular service from that source but I have never seen a soil sample test result that did not include N.
















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Greg, They run 18 test with nitrogen being one of them. You can google Auburn University soil test lab and then go to Water analysis form and it list all 18 test. I dont recall his name, he was a bit hard to understand and I never did get his last name but his title was Doctor. A really nice guy you just had to listen carfully to him.Did not get my samples sent off last week but did collect them over the weekend and will send them off tomorrow. I will advise what I am told and the results. I am sending both a water and soil sample collected from several places off the pond bottom then mixed well and then a sample of that sent.

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10-4 yes soil test has N but usually not water. GL.


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I was really concerned I wouldn't get a good bloom going in my smallmouth hatchery pond due to lots of Chara. Funny thing is it has the best algae bloom out of my two back ponds of which the other has little Chara. Go figure!


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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