Pond Boss Forums AERATION Systems questions Quick aerator help please

When installing new vanes, do they require any break in, or wear-in time before sealing correctly?

You are building up 30psi...it isn't the wire size...I have some good guesses at what may be wrong and I don't think it will be anything big, but I would need to see your setup to know for sure...I'm free the rest of the week

BGK if you have a voltage tester test your voltage at the pump while running under load. Amperage is based soley on voltage and load. If your voltage drops your amperage goes up.

R&R, will he be better able to see a voltage variance or an amperage variance? (inquiring minds and all that........)

Sprkplug-not sure about that

Rainman- according to my pressure gauge I can't get any thing to register before it bogs down, It could be the gauge but I bought 2 of the same ones and I checked the other on my regular compressor and it works fine.. What's some of your ideas Rex and after I check it tonight with the tester you might be making a trip out if you feel like it..

R&R- I won't be able to test anything until I get home from work tester was at work yesterday so I plan to do that this afternoon when I get home.. Can you explaain more what you think itmoght be?

Esshup I'll be checking both.. And R&R I've never heard when voltage drops amperage raises do you mean under load? Kinda lost me there?

I'm thinking it might be just running on one leg of the 230volts? Anyone got an opinion on that? When I blew the lines out just to make sure there were no particles it blew fine, but not as hard as I expected.. Also I noticed even with my pop-off valve tightened all the way down it still leaks some air and I can blow through it with my mouth fairly easy..

BGK I had a problem with a diffuser giving the same type of bubble boil, found out the dual membrane pod was sitting unlevel, so one disk was barely putting bubbles the other was putting out foamy bubbles, this was raising my psi a bit, once I leveled it pressure dropped & it's boiling good!

I'll check that, I dove down and check them whn I put them in and they were pretty close to level, how far off was yours? I'm within an inch or so..

I'll take pictures of the boils today and post them just too get clarification on there appearance if it's good or bad..

If your compressor is "bogging" down under a load then in my experience when my compresors do that it indicates the motor is wired incorrectly. May not be your problem but just my $0.02.


If your pressure relief always leaks it is possible the O ring is cracked or broke. Check it.

Vertex AirStations have flow control technology, or in otherwords, there is enough back pressure created in each disk to make the air flow even whether or not they are perfectly flat. A couple of years ago we were taking pictures in a pool and noticed it took very little uneveness for the air to come out of one side, so we fixed that problem, hence the "flow control technology" :-)

Does anyone have a pic of one of these gast compressors wired correctly.. 3/4 hp rotary vane gast setup in 230v

Cool good to know Sue.. How do I know my diffusers are the flow control models.. I bought them from Ted prolly about a year ago..

He goes through the AirStations pretty fast, so I am pretty sure they have it ~ plus with the amount of air you are putting through them from that 3/4 HP compressor it wouldn't matter if they didn't have the flow control ~

Sue beat me to the punch on the 3rd Generation Vertex FlowControl technology built into each disk.Level is always a good idea but not an operational must.. As far as volts and amps I bench tested the following this am with that same compressor. Static voltage was 242 V Volts on open flow 239 5psi thru 13 psi on this 10 psi pump stayed at 238 volts. Amp draw was 4 at open flow and 4.74 at 5 psi and 5.1 at 7 psi and 5.7 at 10 psi and 6.22 amp at 13 psi.Sue if your running the same tests "STOP"

BGK,you have the newest model.

Esshup there is a direct relationship between the two. Ohms law. If you were to cut your voltage in half your amperage would double conversely if you doubled your voltage your amperage would be cut in half.That being said if there was a voltage drop at the motor while it was under load the amperage would go up, as amperage goes up heat builds up in the wire and the motor causing more amperage and voltage drop.

So in a nutshell you will see a variance in both.

BGK Just from everything Iv'e read here I really dont think you are single phasing your motor.possible but sounds unlikey.Youll know right away when you check your voltage.

I wish I could give you more input on the aeration side but I am just starting to look int that myself.I do feel like the problem is more on that side of this equasion but again I know "NOTHING" about that.

Hope something here helps.

R&R, what do you think it is? If not single phasing?

pump should have white on 5 brown on 4 black on lug A and yellow on 2. incoming lines should be ungrounded "white" on 14 or top nut lug and line black on 2 or lower nut lug.Ground line as marked at grd post and you should eliminate misswiring at the pump.

Go Ted!

I love this forum...there are so many experts we can always count on.
Ted Lea is at the top of the game!

I'm almost positive that's how i hooked it up.. I'll look again. Any other thoughts from anyone on what it could be.. I'm still wondering what would make it rev up then down even if it is a current issue, does the motor have some kind of built in limited or something that could be bad? And can anything be checked through the top of the motor under that little cap? Or does everything have to be checked from the small end plate(not easiest to get to )

I totally agree with Bob. It is apparent that Ted and Sue spent a lot of time and thought helping BGK. I know BGK did spend some money with one or both of them, but he managed to build a system on the cheap and it appears he may finally have success with it because Sue and Ted, along with Bob Lusk's furnishing the web site, bailed him out for little more than the satisfaction of helping someone else.

I'll tell you what the help I've received through this website and personally from bill Cody, Ted, and Rex I fell I should be paying someone for that much help.. You guys have mo idea how much I greatly appreciate this.. Spending 3-4k on a system was Not possible, I've built a very nice comparible system for less than half that and couldn't have done it without the help of everyone..

Thanks alot

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