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Ken I’m not here to slam Purina. They have a great product. However Bob knows all too well my frustration. I have to find my client a local dealer then they go thru what you are going through. I’m done with it. It makes me look bad. We have sent multiple emails to somewhat higher ups in Purina. Their businesses plans are not changing you have to go through a dealer. I cannot be a dealer unless I get 8 tons at a time. Even then LMB pellets are special order.
So I have spoke with Silver Cup and Zeigler they both have some great food. I can get 3 tons shipped to me at good pricing. I can also lineup sales of about 40 bags at a time to clients where freight will not kill you. Ton quantities even better. Ken if you can pull your neighbors this might be an option for you. If interested let me know what product you like. I have a couple of options similar to (possibly better than) aquamax 500.
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$37 for a 50# bag in Xenia, Ohio.
Tim BeteWriter, rookie pond boss, part-time pirate See my pond
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they do not keep it in stock but can order a single bag for 36.99 of the aquamax 500 in ocean springs,ms
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Aquamax 500 - $39.95 per bag
Aquamax Largemouth 40.95 per bag
In Central Wisconsin
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Ken I’m not here to slam Purina. They have a great product. However Bob knows all too well my frustration. I have to find my client a local dealer then they go thru what you are going through. I’m done with it. It makes me look bad. We have sent multiple emails to somewhat higher ups in Purina. Their businesses plans are not changing you have to go through a dealer. I cannot be a dealer unless I get 8 tons at a time. Even then LMB pellets are special order.
So I have spoke with Silver Cup and Zeigler they both have some great food. I can get 3 tons shipped to me at good pricing. I can also lineup sales of about 40 bags at a time to clients where freight will not kill you. Ton quantities even better. Ken if you can pull your neighbors this might be an option for you. If interested let me know what product you like. I have a couple of options similar to (possibly better than) aquamax 500. Greg -- thank you from multiple angles. I too, am not here to slam Purina. They provide a good product. They are a good sponsor. Somehow, I've gotten distracted, and I'd forgotten about Silver Cup and Ziegler. Through the West Virginia Aquaculture Association, the West Virginia University Aquaculture research programs, and the West Virgina Aquaculture Extension Service, I believe I may have a way to piggy-back onto large orders through Ziegler. It is what my research friends seem to prefer for their fish. Now for my rant: As I mentioned in my post above, it is sometimes difficult to work for a big corporation. As senior management staff, with 40 years of experience, I still have six layers of higher management above me. I'll never figure it out. Many are giddy young people, 30 years younger than me. They are far senior to me, making 5-10 times my salary, and making really stupid business decisions that didn't work 40 years ago when I entered this industry -- and this group won't listen any better than their predecessors. My organization has been re-organized six times in the last two years by people I've never met. I've seen my boss, who is 3000 miles away, twice in the last year.
I feel Purina is in the same parallel universe. Where I work, we put stock holders and our several hundred vice presidents about fifty levels above customers and employees.
My little group still develops and produces very important products that have no viable competition. We are very profitable. We can't design and manufacture fast enough. Yet, my upper management wants to kill us because we only do about $50 million a year!
I'm afraid that our Purina Aquamax friends are in a very similar situation to mine.End of rant. Ken
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Just so you know the call has gone out to Purina. We will try this from a different angle.
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I'm using Ziegler gold now which is what the tiger trout were fed at the 2 different places that raise them up here, and appears to be a first rate product, plus my trout seem to get the majority of their nutrition from natural forage. The local Agway here carries it and I don't have to drive 45 miles to the closest Purina dealer. http://www.zeiglerfeed.com/product_literature/aquaculture%20literature_finfish/Finfish%20G.pdf
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Yes AP that is product Im looking to carry. Glad you like it.
IM hopeful Purina will allow drop ship at some point so more folks can use thier products. In the mean time I will be getting large quantities of other prodcuts to help satisfy needs of my clients. Currently waiting three weeks on AQMX LMB
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3 weeks for a customer to get a product? That's no way to run a business.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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I know I am one of the customers debating on switching over to AM but if the wait time is an issue on top of the price difference it makes me wonder if I want to change or not.
I of course will use what I can as I do not want to stop feeding but not sure why the wait time.
Thanks
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Just so you know the call has gone out to Purina. We will try this from a different angle. Eric, That is good. It would be good for some influencial people at Purina to see this thread. For a long time I thought it was only me having issues. I would truly like to support Purina and use their products. I know that Bob has been very involved in making their products better, and, as far as I can tell, they have been big supporters of Pond Boss. Ken
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My wait time is between 0 and 7 days.
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I've got to plan 2 weeks ahead in order to get AM. Any garden-variety, newly minted MBA graduate could come up with a gameplan for Purina to do better than that. I thought the rest of you in other parts of the country could get it better/faster/cheaper than I could but evidently my plight is the norm. Bottom line, Purina is not meeting customer demand for its AquaMax product and the company is driving consumers to its competitors. This is borderline corporate arrogance. If another high protein, fish meal based product was readily available to me I'd switch in a heartbeat.
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WOW..
My hometown feed store, (not a co-op, or chain store, a mom and pop operation), doesn't carry AM in stock, but if I get my order in by Friday, it's there the following Wednesday like clockwork.
When I asked them, they said Purina delivers every Wed, if you want one bag or 10 we can get it for you.
I had them do some checking, and all varieties of AM were in stock at whatever warehouse they use.
Interestingly enough, they said they order more AM 2000 than anything else. I figured most folks must be feeding catfish?
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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My wait time is the second Friday after I order, no later than a Wednesday, if that makes any sense.
But the feed store is able to order just one bag at a time.
So if I ordered this morning,June 15th, before 9 am, I could get the AM on friday the 24th, after 3 pm.
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Mine is next day.. Also I never have to wait they pre-order mine to come in monthly so it's there when I get there every month.. I still call couple days before just to make sure, so far smooth as can be..
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES. ![[Linked Image from i90.photobucket.com]](http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/jmilczski/Fish/PBSubscribe.gif)
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I think the main thing is do the suppliers of the feed store you use actually keep it in stock, if so then they ship every week. If not then it is a special order and we are then talking 2-3 weeks.
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Mine is a special order, they are Purina dealers, but do not carry AM. They will special order though.
And I agree, someone in senior mgt from Purina really needs to see this thread. AM is very hard to get.
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I also have to special order AM500,but they get(local feed store) a delivery I believe every two weeks. They carry on hand Game Fish CHOW,that I use,also. Price of AM500,today was $36.23 less $10.00 with my coupon taken out of PB Mag.
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I know 600 is cheaper than 500 by a couple bucks here i wanna say $28 a bag..
I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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I stopped at the feed store on Tuesday. I wanted 4 bags of 600, but they only had 2. They said they'd have the other 2 on Monday, Tuesday at the latest for me. $29.49/bag w/o tax.
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Heres an update...Been two weeks on order of 2 tons of AM 600 and 30 bags of lmb. They said not sure they have to wait until they need a big order and might be another two weeks. If someone else made the bigger pellets I would for sure go eleswhere no matter the cost.
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Greg, would it help if I ask my supplier about the LMB?
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No it us all about freight. It will do not good unless local source has it. Thx
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Well the Feed Store just let me know my AM 600 was in on Friday which was much sooner than expected.
I will have to try it out and let you know how my feeder works with it.
The cost was $33.
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