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Anyone else spread salt in pond before stocking? They spread 50lbs. of salt in area, waited 15 minutes then put them in. Water temp was 74-76 and they seemed to do well. edit these were 4-5".
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Those are beautiful. I've raised over ten thousand to that size and it never gets old seeing them.
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Congrats ! Those look like very fit HSB. Do you know where they came from? If you keep adding species you may have to name the pond Norm II.
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Theo,
Welcome, my friend, to the HSB club. I can't wait to read your first posts on catching them on a fly rod. You will use a fly rod, right(sometimes?)?
I'm betting you will see excellent survival. I'm also betting you will have much better success at growing them out to large sizes than I have here in the sun belt. Since, I'm betting, I'll also bet that you will see a big increase in your feed bill...and see big smiles when you hook up with these great fighters. I hope you completely enjoy them.
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Originally posted by ahvatsa: Anyone else spread salt in pond before stocking? They spread 50lbs. of salt in area, waited 15 minutes then put them in. Water temp was 74-76 and they seemed to do well. edit these were 4-5". I haven't done it, but it makes a lot of sense to me to give them some insurance at adapting to the new environment. To me, one of the keys for happy pond HSB is water temp...they just don't handle high temps well in my experience, especially as they get larger. The salt would help reduce stress on them in that initial period.
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Here is some info from SRAC. Keep in mind the chemical make up of salts (Na & Ca ) when reading this.
Fingerlings that are sold should be acclimated to cool water and allowed to purge for at least a day before being shipped. The shipping water should be salted (0.5 to 1% or 5 to 10 g/L NaCl2, CaCl2, or sea salt) to reduce the effects of stress. A commercial anti-ammonia compound is also added to the water. If the fish are going to be shipped by air (and sometimes by ground) they are placed in a few gallons of salted water and into doubled plastic bags that are inflated with oxygen and then placed into an insulated shipping box and sealed. Large shipments by ground transportation are loaded into insulated compartments on a hauling truck that has a supply of liquid oxygen and an aeration system. Dissolved oxygen should be kept above 5 mg/L. The water should be agitated to prevent buildup of carbon dioxide. Temperatures should be kept below 70 °F (21 °C).
Hybrids are generally stocked into freshwater systems but they do well in salinities of O to 25 ppt, and some can survive salinities up to full strength seawater (35 ppt). Dissolved oxygen levels as low as 1 mg/l can be tolerated for a short period of time, but optimum dissolved oxygen levels range from 6 to 12 mg/1.
Alkalinity, hardness and pH levels are usually related, and hybrid striped bass grow well over a wide range of values. Alkalinity of 100 mg/1 or above is desirable in culture situations; however, fish have been known to survive alkalinity and hardness values of 20 to 30 mg/1.[[ Mortality can be significant during transfer from water of high alkalinity/hardness to water with low alkalinity/hardness. Although still unproven, calcium levels appear to be important when handling fish in freshwater.]] Hybrids survive in a pH range of 6.0 to 10.0, although 7.0 to 8.5 is optimum for growth. Pond reared hybrids have survived repeated exposure to a pH of 2.5.
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For those who don't know, these aren't my first 50 HSB, but rather HSB Numbers 2 thru 51. We have one HSB who apparently snuck in under the radar with our original stockers (with the LMB, is my guess). My daughter caught him first, and therefore had the honor of naming him ("Lt. Stripes"). When last caught in late March 2005, he was a fat 18". I really look forward to landing him again and seeing how big he's grown.
Bruce, I love to look at wipers too. I'll never forget the first time I saw one, so similar and yet so different from LMB. They're largely the same shape and colors, yet with different accoutrements and patterns - it always reminds me of the different NATO member camo schemes.
Eric: They are most recently from Jones Fish. Didn't Bruce or Lusk or someone post that 90%+ of the HSB in the country come from the same hatchery in, what, Arkansas?
ML: I will not hazard to guess or promise when, but a HSB on a fly rod is definitely in my future at some point.
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Keo, Arkansas is the place. I'm not sure if I know of any other sources for commercial sale. (That's not to say there aren't any). I think some states produce their own. Kansas being one of them.
Keo ships them all over the country as 1-1.5 inchers. Mike Freeze is the name of the guy. He runs a good business and provides a great product that's guaranteed live delivery. He's helped me out many times.
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Theo,congratulations on your new arrivals. Welcone to the expanding HSB club. They will kick some LMB butt... ML is right on - a fly rod is the way to go... With a good feeding program they will be a pound by spring and will strtch your line... Beautiful fish...
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I caught one of my new HSB today (on an earthworm); condition looked very good and I would say he had gained a little weight since being stocked. He certainly outfought the larger GSH I caught ahead of him!
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