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BG or? It had a large mouth and shaped odd. More so than the others we caught.

Also caught this bass in one of my smaller ponds

top one looks like a green sunfish to me, maybe a hybrid bluegill?

HBG would be my guess.

Is this from a muddy pond?

That top fish looks like a pure GSF from a muddy pond since its coloration is so muted.

My thoughts also.

Looks like a muddy pond in the background of the GSF.

My pond stays muddy, very muddy. I've been thru the alum many many times but it won't seem to clear up. I drained it in 2009 and restocked it with fish from Bob. I was afraid it was a GSF. I guess I need to remove them as I catch them??? I stocked 500 BG and 250 RES in late '09 and then 75 LMB in June of 2010.

I agree the fish is a GSF, a nice sized one and cleanable. The LMB and reproduction from the BG should keep the GSF from becoming over abundant. Keep removing the GSF as you catch them and unless the LMB become overfished the GSF should not pose a problem and be a rare catch. Know something is remiss if you frequently catch GSF in a bass-BG pond. .

I caught what I believe to be 3 different species of sunfish last week and hope to get the pics up soon to get everyone’s thoughts on what they are.

Thanks

Several writers about GSF/HBG/BG have noted the difficulty in finding genetically pure GSF populations. They wonder if some of the reported differences in reported % of male offspring of the GSF X BG cross (HBG - 66% to 99% male) are due to non pure strain GSF stock.

With that said I think that fish is a GSF but maybe not 100% pure but close.

I have to agree ewest, this is a GSF (maybe not 100%), but this is what my pond is loaded with and since it was redone over 5 years ago and never stocked until Dec 2009 these fish would have traveled up the hillside from the creek, which usually housed GSF.

Thanks guys, I do appreciate it. I didn't think JHAP or the GSA made it this far east! As long as you think I can control them with fishing, I can live with it. I will do another alum treatment this spring but with what Rainman told me, I'll need about 2 1/2 tons of the stuff.

Here are some pictures of the sunfish I caught the other day. Would like to know what the expert think each of them are.

Cisco, a creek overflowed into my forage pond a couple of years ago and brought GSF. I set traps and catch them along with BG. I stock both in my bigger ponds and have no problems with them.

I don't think there's a lot of reason to control them.

Cisco...I'm thinking there may be a misunderstanding on the Alum. With a 1.5 acre pond, MAYBE up to about 1500-2000 pounds if it has over 20 acre feet of water...I'm sure I didn't suggest 5000# of Alum.

In my opinion, Mr Hello, you are looking at GSF in all three pics, though at first glance the mouths do look smaller than the ones I'm used to catching. So possibly HBG, but I'll let the real experts determine if I'm right or not.

Anyone else have ideas as to what the 3 sunfish I have are. I have a pretty good idea but wanted to see what the experts or anyone else for that matter they are.

If I need to move this to another post please let me know.

Thanks

Thanks again. DD1 I'm glad to hear that, we'll pull them out as we catch them as long as the LMB can control them. Rainman I think what you actually said was to have 6X the recommended amount ready in case it was needed or maybe that you had to use 6X before to clear a pond. My pond has an aveage depth of about 10 to 11 ft and it is 1.6 acres according to google planimeter. I'm going to actually check the depth in the next couple of weeks to be sure but I do know it was 16 to 20 ft deep in a couple of spots when I had it dug out a couple of years ago.

I think #1 and #3 are hybrids, #2 is either pure or very close to pure Greenie.

Here's an amateur's view:

Pic#1.... Hybrid, possibly a Longear x GSF??
Pic#2.... GSF
Pic#3.... HBG x GSF, although it's colors appear somewhat off. I suppose it could be due to the water clarity, but it makes me wonder if there's not something else in the mix, or maybe it's an F2 ??? Is that feasible??

My thoughts were:

1. LES
2. GSF
3. HBG

The water in the pond is fairly clear compared to the other ponds we have that stay turbid.

The GSF have been in the pond for at least since the pond was redone 5 years ago, (somehow got in there)

I put 1-3 inch HBG in the pond in Dec 2009, which I was thinking that was pic #3.

I did let 2 LES go in the pond last summer after having them in my tank at home for a while. Even though I was hoping to catch the LES again I never really thought it would happen, especially this quick.

Now I guess if the GSF made it to the pond some LES could have made it as well. If that is the case then this may even not be one of the 2 fish I put in there.

Any other thoughts?

On taking a second look, I think you may be right... the first pic MIGHT be a straight longear. It doesn't seem as colorful as what I'm used too, but that may be due to the time of year it is.
If GSF found their way in, it's hard telling what else did also. The third pic still looks like a HBG, again, it just seems a little off in it's coloration.

I've never seen a longear in West Texas. They may exist but I haven't seen them.

I still need to catch a pumpkin seed, and red breast which I believe we have both here just not in large numbers.

Would love to have some of each in my pond.