Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
araudy, Ponderific2024, MOLINER, BackyardKoi, Lumberman1985
18,501 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,962
Posts557,962
Members18,501
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,534
ewest 21,499
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,148
Who's Online Now
7 members (FishinRod, Fishingadventure, 4CornersPuddle, Bigtrh24, Boondoggle, Bill Cody, Ponderific2024), 1,109 guests, and 322 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#249382 02/24/11 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
L
L.W.J Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
L
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
I'm in deep south-texas, is this a threadfin or gizzard shad? i forgot to mention that its almost 2 inches long. thanks for the help. caught them from my pond in brownsville...i did not stock these, they were already there..water levels rose after the hurrican a couple yrs ago? its fat from gorging on aquamax. the pond is not connected to another body of water like a river or anything.

Attached Images
shad resize.jpg multiple minnow resized.jpg 3ac pond resize.jpg
Last edited by L.W.J; 02/24/11 02:57 PM.
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 99
Editor, Pond Boss Magazine
Lunker
Offline
Editor, Pond Boss Magazine
Lunker
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 99
It's neither a threadfin or gizzard. I don't recognize it right off the bat.

Where did it come from...pond, river, lake, bay, Syria?


Teach a man to grow fish...
He can teach to catch fish...
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
L
L.W.J Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
L
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
Mr. Lusk..I added more pictures and gave a more detailed explanation in the original Post...how do u find out what they are?

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 384
C
Offline
C
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 384
Looks a little like a fat Gambusia

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 101
T
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
T
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 101
The two facing right look like gambusia....but the others... the head looks different.


Fisheries Biologist
Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks

"Success is often overlooked because it dresses up in overalls and disguises itself as work."
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 23
T
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
T
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 23
Looks like a Mexican Tetra.

Last edited by Techno Viking; 02/24/11 05:27 PM.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
To me the 4 on the bottom look like Gambusia. The one on the top is the puzzle.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,099
Likes: 23
R
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
R
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,099
Likes: 23
Originally Posted By: Techno Viking
Looks like a Mexican Tetra.


+1

USGS Mexican Tetra (Astyanax mexicanus)

One pic I saw of them looks like they have some decent size bony teeth.

Last edited by Rainman; 02/24/11 07:41 PM.


Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,499
Likes: 266
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,499
Likes: 266

















Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Originally Posted By: Techno Viking
Looks like a Mexican Tetra.





www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,973
G
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
G
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,973
so is this a sign of more immigrants?


Greg Grimes
www.lakework.com
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Subtropical America. Mostly eastern and central Mexico and also the lower Rio Grande, lower Pecos, and Nueces rivers in Texas (Lee et al. 1980 et seq.; Page and Burr 1991). Historically, found in the Pecos River drainage and lower Rio Grande in New Mexico, but now restricted to the Pecos drainage downstream of Dexter (Sublette et al. 1990).

From reading the USGS page, it looks like it has been found in AZ and OK, possibly by bait bucket stocking (transferred with other bait minnows when collected from the wild). It's a predator unlike GSD and THS.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 2
C
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
C
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 2
I think this is the first I have seen anyone with Mexican tetras in their pond. Very neat! They are pretty aquarium fish and are often traded in the native fish aquarium trade.

They are more of stream/creek fish, interesting this one was collected from a pond. Does this pond have a feeder creek or experience occasional flooding from a nearby creek?

They reach about 4" in size, so they certainly can be a forage fish. One that doesn't get so large to not be effectively preyed on. However, like many forage species they are predacious in nature and feed on other living animals and such will compete with young bass and sunfish for food.

Food habits from the Texas Fish ID website: This species is usually highly carnivorous, feeding on smaller fish, although in northeastern Mexico it has been reported to be omnivorous, with plants, filamentous algae, and aquatic insect comprising the bulk of its diet (Birkhead 1980). In the lower Rio Grande, diet includes green algae and plants, various terrestrial and aquatic insects, and occasionally fish (majority Gambusia affinis; Estrada 1999); at Phantom Springs, near Toyavale, Texas, tetras consumed similar foods as did lower Rio Grande population, although no fishes were observed in the diets of individuals from Phantom Springs (Winemiller and Anderson 1997). In each of three Balmorhea State Park environments sampled, a variety of foods were consumed, including green algae, amphipods, ostrocods, insects, crayfish, snails, and (at one site only) fish (Edwards 1999). Young-of-year observed feeding voraciously on insects, in Waller Creek (tributary of Colorado River), Texas (Edwards 1977).

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
L
L.W.J Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
L
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 65
The pond is about a 1/2 mile from the Rio Grande River. So it makes alot of sense..I wanted to use this smaller pond as a bream pond and didn't want to put any bass in untill i grew them 8lbs or better from my larger pond..do u think these tetras will help control the bream population in the mean time? that brings up something else, i have yet to see a single bream or fathead minnow that i stocked a couple mths ago? theres tons of gambusia..Do u thing those tetras ganged up and ate my 2-3in CNBG adn 3-4in fatheads?

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 2
C
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
C
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,458
Likes: 2
I doubt Mexican tetras will control a BG population. I am sure some larger ones will prey on the small fry, but that will be the extent of it. Gambusia are aggressive little buggers, but I doubt they would be able to eat 2-3" BG or 3-4" FHM... Could you have had a serious drop in DO and had a fish kill? Gambusia and tetras are highly tolerant of low DO, FHM are as well but not as much, BG would be the first to go of the 4. In all likelihood, they're there you just aren't seeing them...


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Hawkeye in Ohio, JStephens, optimalfishfood
Recent Posts
YP Growth: Height vs. Length
by Bill Cody - 04/25/24 08:15 PM
Inland Silver sided shiner
by Bill Cody - 04/25/24 08:09 PM
New pond leaking to new house 60 ft away
by JabariStokes - 04/25/24 07:30 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by FishinRod - 04/25/24 03:24 PM
1/2 Acre Pond Build
by Lumberman1985 - 04/25/24 03:01 PM
Low Alkalinity
by ewest - 04/25/24 02:13 PM
Howdy from West Central Louisiana
by ewest - 04/25/24 02:07 PM
Prayers needed
by Zep - 04/25/24 10:36 AM
Caught a couple nice bass lately...
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/24/24 03:39 PM
Happy Birthday Sparkplug!
by ewest - 04/24/24 11:21 AM
What’s the easiest way to get rid of leaves
by esshup - 04/23/24 10:00 PM
Concrete pond construction
by FishinRod - 04/23/24 09:40 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5