Pond Boss Magazine
http://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Newest Members
SlowLeakySam, Sperger1, Capt Rob, claymike, stubben
10297 Registered Users
Forum Stats
10297 Members
35 Forums
25113 Topics
330807 Posts

Max Online: 1039 @ 03/28/13 01:44 PM
Top Posters
ewest 14994
Cecil Baird1 14837
esshup 13987
Theo Gallus 12280
CJBS2003 8995
Who's Online
60 registered (dreams of ponds, Nathan, Water Fowl, vamaz, jims place, stubben, george1, fishtruck, Dave Lemaster, Sue Cruz, sprkplug, benji havens, M.I.B.², Cecil Baird1, kenc, jeffhasapond, FireIsHot, Theo Gallus, jludwig, SlowLeakySam, J. E. Craig, Zep, catmandoo, Andrewn, 2Old2Soon, liquidsquid, Michael P, scampbell, Tums, esshup, Lovnlivin, RC51, Cray, Kelly Duffie, CoachB, Sunil, Instar, wickedinhere, tennbass, drumz2129, blair5002, Cody Veach, Daniel C., DonoBBD, small pond, Clayton, Dave Willis, ewest, Bullhead, outdoorlivin247, dlowrance, jakeusmc, barry@rheins.com, djstauder, Ted Lea FOREVERGREEN, Dave Davidson1, Bill Cody, orgeranyc, WRFinTX, Brettski), 342 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
#243547 - 12/27/10 10:48 AM Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat
Bluegill Fever Offline


Registered: 08/25/10
Posts: 99
Loc: Lexington,North Carolina
I have now decied that I am breaking ground on the 2nd pond on our land in January. With stocking shellcrackers, Coppernose bluegill and channel catfish. I want to grow large redears fast and I thought that crawfish would be a great forage species for the catfish,CNBG and the redears. Since redears don't come up for commerical feed. Why not stock crawfish. What would be a great place for crawfish to hide and reproduce but not encourge the catfish to spawn?
_________________________
Take someone new fishing at your pond. They'll be hooked forever.
1 acre LMB/HBG/BG pond

Top
#243555 - 12/27/10 02:05 PM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: Bluegill Fever]
esshup Online   content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent

Lunker

Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 13987
Loc: Grovertown, Indiana
I'd look into getting some grass shrimp as well. A little bit of diversity wouldn't hurt providing you have the habitat that they like.
_________________________

http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
www.hoosierpondpros.com

Top
#243599 - 12/28/10 09:46 AM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: esshup]
Greg Grimes Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker

Registered: 05/03/02
Posts: 3965
Loc: Ball Ground, GA
good concern with rock cats could spawn as well. I encourage adding hay and also snails to grow bigger res. You may eventually have to stock bass to control their reproduction.


Edited by Greg Grimes (12/28/10 09:47 AM)
_________________________
Greg Grimes
www.lakework.com

Top
#243661 - 12/29/10 10:15 AM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: Greg Grimes]
Bluegill Fever Offline


Registered: 08/25/10
Posts: 99
Loc: Lexington,North Carolina
Where could you get grass shrimp and snails? Would these species cause the pond to be over populated with the species?
_________________________
Take someone new fishing at your pond. They'll be hooked forever.
1 acre LMB/HBG/BG pond

Top
#243697 - 12/29/10 08:47 PM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: Bluegill Fever]
CJBS2003 Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker

Registered: 01/19/09
Posts: 8995
Loc: northern VA
TJ Hudson who is a member on here and I found a source for a species of grass shrimp adapted to pond life. Fattig's in Nebraska sells them. TJ usually puts an order in for all members interested each spring so everyone gets a better price by bulk ordering. TJ is just a good guy and really gets nothing out of it but the feeling of being a nice guy... Snails often simply show up on their own. You can also collect them from the wild, but be careful as some species can cause problems. Also, the thinner shelled pond species are better as they are more preferred as prey by RES. I have at least 4 species in one pond with RES and the thin shelled varieties have gotten quite rare. The ramshorn species are less numerous but not so rare as they get bigger and adults are fairly safe from all but the largest RES which I don't have any right now as the RES aren't that old yet. I have also stocked Asiatic clams to add to the forage base of my RES, but most wouldn't recommend that as there are lots of unknowns with them.
_________________________
DISCLAIMER: I am not a professional pond manager. Any advice received from me should be taken with a grain of salt. However, it is completely free.

Top
#243770 - 12/31/10 07:23 AM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: CJBS2003]
Bluegill Fever Offline


Registered: 08/25/10
Posts: 99
Loc: Lexington,North Carolina
Thank You!
_________________________
Take someone new fishing at your pond. They'll be hooked forever.
1 acre LMB/HBG/BG pond

Top
#243786 - 12/31/10 11:33 AM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: Bluegill Fever]
Bill Cody Online   content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker

Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 6917
Loc: Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH
IMO I would not use crayfish as a main food item for CC for at least two main reasons. 1. Crayfish are not as nutritious as most fish or food pellets (not sure of nutrition of clams which CC do eat). Thus a main diet of crayfish will result in low productivity and slowed growth of CC. 2. Crayfish are often small indivduals and numerous ones will have to be captured and eaten (expending energy) to gain adequate nutrition for growth. This becomes more important as the CC get large (>24"). Some species of Crays do get large, but I question how vulnerable these big guys are to fish predation. Crayfish benefits: 1. they feed low on the food chain and lots of them can be grown in small productive waters, 2. they are slow and easy to catch esp at dusk/night when they and CC are most active. A bottom oriented, daytime active fish that does not get real large should be a good forage fish for CC; CNBG may fit this niche okay. I not saying do use crayfish, just consider them a supplimental and not a main food item.


Edited by Bill Cody (12/31/10 11:44 AM)
_________________________
Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management

Top
#243806 - 12/31/10 04:30 PM Re: Channel Catfish and Crawfish habitat [Re: Bill Cody]
ewest Online   content
Moderator
Hall of Fame

Lunker

Registered: 03/08/05
Posts: 14994
Loc: Miss.
I agree with Bill but will point out that craws are very high in nutrition. CC do not need a high protein diet 32% feeds are plenty and they can use plant based feeds and don't need fish meal as much as say LMB , trout etc.
_________________________










Top


Today's Birthdays
JB Askew
Recent Posts
Heartfelt Prayers to Oklahoma
by Cecil Baird1
6 minutes 47 seconds ago
Feeding twice a day a good idea?
by catmandoo
17 minutes 27 seconds ago
I am gonna do it again.
by wickedinhere
43 minutes 57 seconds ago
Ecoplus 7???
by Cody Veach
49 minutes 4 seconds ago
Operation Crappie out, not a success?
by fishtruck
51 minutes 0 seconds ago
ESSHUP is the man
by ewest
Today at 09:03 AM
My Pond, my problem?
by SlowLeakySam
Today at 08:58 AM
Goldfish to sport fish?
by DonoBBD
Today at 08:57 AM
Black spot parasite?
by Cecil Baird1
Today at 08:52 AM
LMB Removal Project
by dlowrance
Today at 08:45 AM
Newly Uploaded Images
blue gill
First HSB baby pic
Perch Lake huron.
New Pond Problems
"Hemi Orange" fish food pellets
Family fun
all_wet ponds
Pond at Sunrise with Oversight
Catfish!
Just for fun.