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please help me figure out how to get rid of them. I have tried round-up and Rodeo and both do not work. They get rid of them for a while but they all keep coming back. I need to know how to get rid of them for good. Can someone please help me??????
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How big is the pond? How long are they gone before they regrow? Cattails can recolonize if there is a good seed source nearby.
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To add to Bills' questions, how long have they been growing in the pond, and how many are there?
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50*60*100 thats how big it is. They come back about 3 months. What is the seed source? is it there pollen? They surround the entire tank
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they have been growing for about 10 to 12 years. The tank is about 30 years old
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I believe in catch and release. I catch then release to the grease.. BG. CSBG. LMB. HSB. RES.
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we cant get all the way around the tank with a backhoe. Is there any chemical I can use. Keep in mind the tank is full of cats, perch, bass, and others. I have a spray rig. Any suggestions?
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I killed cattails that I had in the pond by spraying them with a pond approved type of "round-up" that had extra surficants in it. I had to hit the cattails 3x or 4x during the year (anytime I saw green), and then when the pond froze over I burned the dead stalks that were above the ice (I burned it on a low wind day and there was snow on the ground).
I had to hit them 2x the next year (anytime I saw green shoots trying to sprout up) but that did the trick.
I've got cattails trying to sprout in the pond now, and keep pulling immature plants when they're a foot tall or so. The nearest cattails are in a ditch about 1/2 mile away. The seeds are like milkweed seeds - they fly everywhere.
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thank you for all your support and remedies. We will try the roundup. We will keep at it as long as it takes.
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I understand any of the Roundup chemicals mentioned here work best just as the plants die off in the fall (or whenever they die off in Texas). When they are dying back in the fall the nutrients return to the roots for next year's growth, just like most perennials do. Spraying as this happens causes the plant to pull the toxin into the roots, killing the plant. I only had cattais one time, and by chance sprayed they in the fall. That was 10 years ago and they never came back. I certainly wouldn't let them grow all year and just wait until fall, but treating them at that time probably gets the best results.
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thank you for all your support and remedies. We will try the roundup. We will keep at it as long as it takes. Don't try the roundup, it's not labeled for use on a pond. There are other glyphosate products that are labeled for such usage, such as SHORE-KLEAR or something similar. Make sure that the product has surficants in it or add the appropriate surficants. The surficants break down the plants protective waxy or oily coating, allowing the herbicide to be absorbed.
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If ya get a chance post a pic or two of them in your pond. There are some people on my lake that hate the cattails too. I kind of like the way cattails look, but I am sure if they get out of hand I wouldn't like them. Too bad they can't make cattails and lilypads like the carp that can't reproduce.
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Just like Esshup says you have to hit them with the appropriate product as soon as they appear. The problem is they spread via rhizomes (extending root runners) not just seeds. At some point you will see very few and it won't be much of any issue to spray anything that pops up.
I used to have major problems with them. After nailing everyone I can two years in a row I hardly see them anymore.
I also cut them down and remove them once the plant turns yellow from the herbicide.
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Rodeo is a full strength glycosphate product (2-3oz/gal + surfactant) that requires addition of a non-ionic surfactant such as Cide kick II (qts, gallons), or Cygnet Plus. Redeo is usually only available in larger quantities (2.5gal, $90-$130) for large projects. Touchdown Pro is an alternate full strength glucosphate (2.5gal) that is also approved for emergent aquatic growth and is sometimes a little cheaper than Rodeo. Agricultural supply stores usually have both products.
FYI - Shore-Klear is glysophate with the surfactant all in one container. It comes in quarts and gallons.
As others mentioned, spraying cattails late in the summer before they die back in the fall is the most effecive time to get the greatest percent kill.
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You may try a product called Weedar, its an aquatic version of 2 4 D. Its fairly cheap less than $50.00 per 2 1/2 gal.
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That is a very informative document. Thanks for posting the link. Ken
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