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CJBS2003 #238684 10/20/10 04:41 PM
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Well, the cool thing in WV, Travis, is that if someone breaks into my home while we're here, we can shoot them dead pretty much without question. None of that sissy-tree-hugging-let's-all-get-along crap about trying to retreat first! On the other stuff, I'm with you as some of it just seems to defy plain old common sense. But then whoever said legislators have plain old common sense!


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In my home I'm the LAW, not some a**h**e in Albany or Washington, if someone breaks in while I'm there he won't have to worry about going to jail, very simple.



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And that's exactly how it ought to be, AP. With you 100% on that one!


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Yeah you got that right!! My wife and kids come first. I will not hesitate to protect them or me if someone is in my home!! PERIOD!!


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I don't think it's a very good idea to talk about taking the law into your own hands regarding deadly force against trespassers. If any of you were ever in the unfortunate situation in which you did have to shoot someone in self defense, this forum is publicly available and a prosecutor could use statements posted here against you.


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When an intruder is in your home the law is in your hands, no time to worry about any repercussions, and my views being public are part of my freedoms!



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Or if you were in the unfortunate position mentioned above I guess you could use this forum as part if your legal defense.

Hey I warned the intruder on pondboss years ago by stating If someone breaks in my house I kill them..


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The PA congress, I think, has just approved more broad based usage of deadly force for it's citizens. I'm not sure the Governer is going to sign the bill.

If I'm not mistaken, it allows citizens to use deadly force even if another citizen's life is being threatened.


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Originally Posted By: Sunil
The PA congress, I think, has just approved more broad based usage of deadly force for it's citizens. I'm not sure the Governer is going to sign the bill.

If I'm not mistaken, it allows citizens to use deadly force even if another citizen's life is being threatened.


That's interesting info, Sunil. I am not sure of WV's current status on the issue of defense of another, but I recall discussion on that point from law school. The general principle was that one may use an appropriate level of force in self-defense, and that same right extended to the defense of others. If there had been a mistake in the right to assert that defense of the other person, for example a situation maybe involving an undercover police officer fighting with a suspect and the samaritan unknowingly helps the suspect, then there is the potential for both criminal and civil liability against the samaritan. The point was that in asserting a right to defend another person, you had better be doggone sure that you are defending the right person! And then there's the whole issue of when deadly force is permissible versus less-than-deadly force. Lots of variables there that make it a potentially very tricky subject. Definitely something to discuss with a lawyer licensed in your state and familiar with the current state of the criminal laws.

Hey, now isn't this an interesting evolution of the whole Dead Deer thread?!


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I guess I am late to the party. On the original post: I would not touch it if I were you. I had my fill of 2-4 week old animals after pulling dead goats out of hog panels we used to keep them and hogs out of feeders when we had a lease and the guy with grazing rights stuck 1200 angora goats on a property able to graze 400 when his subsidies ended. The stench is unforgettable.

And I am glad Texas has a nice strong castle doctrine.

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