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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
About 1/2 covered. Now, I seldom see any but the last 2 years it has gotten more turbid.

They aren't that hard to get rid of if you can shoot.


Dave, are you talking about shooting with a rifle or with a bow? If a rifle, and several here seem to have arguments against that approach, what caliber are you using and have you had success?


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Just to be clear, because I have thought about GC too for my 16-acre pond. But, my weed issues are coontail, duckweed, and algaes. GC won't really help these? Are they primarily for rooted weeds then?

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Also, I see some folks talking about Sonar. This stuff is STRONG, so be careful. I had a "professional" treat 16 acres with it because of a bad coontail and duckweed issue. I didn't know yet what to do, as I had just bought the land, and I didn't have any equipment for applying anything yet. I even had him scale back the amount, because I was afraid of overkill. It did the intended job. Boy, did it! Coontail and duckweed were gone a few months later, as were pretty much all other weeds and grasses. It killed lillypads, cattails, everything. THEN, the lake froze over in what truned out to be a long, hard winter, and there wasn't anything in the lake to make oxygen. We had a pretty substantial fish kill, and lost thousands of bluegill and bass. Populations are recovering (fish and weeds), but you have to be VERY careful with herbicides this strong. If I had it to do again, and I might eventually have to, I'd use about half or so, and reapply later if need be.

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WLCopper,


That is pretty much correct. They may eat coontail if they are starving but I wouldn't hold my breath.


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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Originally Posted By: Todd3138
Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
About 1/2 covered. Now, I seldom see any but the last 2 years it has gotten more turbid.

They aren't that hard to get rid of if you can shoot.


Dave, are you talking about shooting with a rifle or with a bow? If a rifle, and several here seem to have arguments against that approach, what caliber are you using and have you had success?




Hey Todd,

I am not speaking for double D but I met him at the PB conference this last year and he don't come across to me as the bow fishing type. If I were a betting man I think he was talking about a weapon with a barrel on it. smile smile


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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Originally Posted By: RC51
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Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
About 1/2 covered. Now, I seldom see any but the last 2 years it has gotten more turbid.

They aren't that hard to get rid of if you can shoot.


Dave, are you talking about shooting with a rifle or with a bow? If a rifle, and several here seem to have arguments against that approach, what caliber are you using and have you had success?




Hey Todd,

I am not speaking for double D but I met him at the PB conference this last year and he don't come across to me as the bow fishing type. If I were a betting man I think he was talking about a weapon with a barrel on it. smile smile


Good, because that's about the only weapon with which I'm capable myself!


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Todd, Guvnor Davidson can also "shoot" off some harsh language.

Keep in mind that he may be saying he can 'talk' the GC out of the pond at any time.


Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

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So he's something of a grass carp whisperer, huh? grin In that case, he's got the job when it's time to remove them!


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Originally Posted By: Sunil
Todd, Guvnor Davidson can also "shoot" off some harsh language.

Keep in mind that he may be saying he can 'talk' the GC out of the pond at any time.


Well, The Guvnor is a friendly, charming, and smooth talking Texan from Mule Shoe. He can charm a trophy fish off a spawning bed.

However, if that doesn't work, I don't think I'd want to witness the extreme charm that would force everything and everybody out of the pool.


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Reminds me of one of the Alien movies when the soldiers are told they can't use live ammo down near the aliens' den. Bill Paxton says "what are we supposed to use.....harsh language??!!!!"


Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

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SHOTGUN!! They never miss, you get no ricochet and the turtles eat well.

If you bleed green, get some steel shot.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

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Thank you, sir!


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