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#221857 - 06/14/10 10:51 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: bowjo]
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Well, who knows? With second guessing, the last photo could very well be a hybrid bluegill.

Here is a photo from Bruce Condello of a hybrid bluegill:



Here are a few more.







They could all be hybrids, but . . .

More photos sure would help. I still think you have a mix.
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#221862 - 06/14/10 11:10 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: catmandoo]
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Originally Posted By: catmandoo
Well, who knows? With second guessing, the last photo could very well be a hybrid bluegill.

Here is a photo from Bruce Condello of a hybrid bluegill:



Here are a few more.







They could all be hybrids, but . . .

More photos sure would help. I still think you have a mix.




In my completely amateur opinion... I agree.
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If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
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Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
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#221867 - 06/14/10 11:47 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: catmandoo]
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But are these PURE HYBRIDS?

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#221883 - 06/15/10 06:49 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: MRHELLO]
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Originally Posted By: MRHELLO
But are these PURE HYBRIDS?



?????????????????????

Two that are the same are pure.

And two that are different are hybrid.

So what was the Q ?
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#221904 - 06/15/10 09:50 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: andedammen]
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From the archives (there's really a lot of information there, I spent days and days reading and learning before posting here for the first time. It helped me from asking redundant questions).

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3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

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#221909 - 06/15/10 10:07 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: esshup]
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There can be lots of variation in hybrid lepomis even in just HBG.

See this thread for pics and discussion.

http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=1341&Number=14459#Post14459

This fish looks like a Georgia Giant to me but maybe not.


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#221911 - 06/15/10 10:11 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: ewest]
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Uh Oh, I think I just heard the top pop off the can of worms! grin
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#221919 - 06/15/10 10:43 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: esshup]
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Originally Posted By: esshup
Uh Oh, I think I just heard the top pop off the can of worms! grin


laugh laugh laugh
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#221930 - 06/15/10 11:19 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: ewest]
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So how about the Georgia Giants? Do they grow any faster than any other BG?

What are the pros and cons of having them?

Where can one buy them?

What fish are crossed to make them?

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#221934 - 06/15/10 12:05 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: MRHELLO]
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I Just got done fishing and taking pics.Other than the BG being there,everything else seems fine.My new observations today:
1.Some of my HSB are alot bigger than I previously thought,10"+.
2.Some of my HBG are alot bigger also 8-9" very fat and heavy.
3.Perch are doing well
4.Have not caught or seen a RES yet.
5.Great minnow population,I wouldn't want to be one in this pond!
I will post a new thread with my pics and what I think my fish are. I hope you guys don't get to tired of my questions and posts.I really like reading other opinions and suggestions....Thanks again Joe

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#221937 - 06/15/10 12:48 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: MRHELLO]
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Originally Posted By: MRHELLO
So how about the Georgia Giants? Do they grow any faster than any other BG?

What are the pros and cons of having them?

Where can one buy them?

What fish are crossed to make them?


Yep, that WAS the top popping off! grin

MRHELLO, use the search function here, type in Georgia Giants or Georgia Giant and read, read, read. Once you've done that, then come back and ask if anything isn't clear, but I'll bet you will have all your questions answered about Georgia Giants. Search back as far as the search function will let you. Interesting reading. laugh
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#221940 - 06/15/10 01:07 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: bowjo]
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Please keep the posts and pictures coming. I think it is nice to see all a person has in there ponds and how they are progressing.

Also when you do get some random fish it is nice to post them so others can have questions answered about some freaks in their pond. This does have me a little scared though, since I too used the smaller fish at stalking that I may end up with something weird in my pond.

I may even post some pictures of mine when I get time to load them up and everything is working well. I am ready to get back to my pond but we had 4 inches of rain yesterday so it may be weeks before I can go, unless I want to walk 1/3 mile through weeds 3 feet tall, and I am not in the mood to be a tick’s dinner.

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#221944 - 06/15/10 01:13 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: esshup]
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Yep, that WAS the top popping off! grin

MRHELLO, use the search function here, type in Georgia Giants or Georgia Giant and read, read, read. Once you've done that, then come back and ask if anything isn't clear, but I'll bet you will have all your questions answered about Georgia Giants. Search back as far as the search function will let you. Interesting reading. laugh[/quote]


I'll second that. MRHELLO, I'm in my second year of raising HBG, and when I first became interested in this project I read all through the archives, everything that I could find that pertained to HBG. The section on Georgia Giants should be required reading for anyone thinking about ANY type of HBG. Lots of good info there, grab a sandwich, a cool beverage, and start in. Like essup said, after you've read through all that, you will probably find all your questions answered.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.

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#221953 - 06/15/10 01:35 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: sprkplug]
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So are you raising HBG?

If so what size did you stock, when were they stocked, and how big are they now?

How large is your pond, what else is in it and do you feed?

Thanks

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#221986 - 06/15/10 04:29 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: MRHELLO]
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Originally Posted By: MRHELLO
So are you raising HBG?

If so what size did you stock, when were they stocked, and how big are they now?

How large is your pond, what else is in it and do you feed?

Thanks


Yes, I am raising HBG. I stocked approx 600 fish (3-4") in March of last year. This year, I stocked an additional 100 of the same size. I have about 40-45 LMB in the 5-10" range that I'm using to control unwanted reproduction.The pond is 2/3 acre,and 10' deep at most. I recently added an aeration system, as I know I probably have too much biomass in the pond, and I'm trying to ward off any future low DO problems. The fish average about 8" now, (last years'), with an occasional 9-9.5" thrown in. I feed Aquamax 500 twice a day, not sure on the actual pounds used, I'll try to weigh it tonight.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"

If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.

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#221989 - 06/15/10 04:57 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: sprkplug]
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Sounds like I really need to figure out a way to feed my fish. I think this will help them grow so I can thin them out and eat them.

I overstocked my pond and now waiting to see what happens.

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#222011 - 06/15/10 08:19 PM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: esshup]
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Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: MRHELLO
So how about the Georgia Giants? Do they grow any faster than any other BG?

What are the pros and cons of having them?

Where can one buy them?

What fish are crossed to make them?


Yep, that WAS the top popping off! grin

MRHELLO, use the search function here, type in Georgia Giants or Georgia Giant and read, read, read. Once you've done that, then come back and ask if anything isn't clear, but I'll bet you will have all your questions answered about Georgia Giants. Search back as far as the search function will let you. Interesting reading. laugh


I'm glad ESSHUP posted. Not everyone has been 100% satisfied with the "inventor" (yes, he claims to have a patent on large fish) of these fish and the famous "Hogzilla."

After EWEST's post, it would really be interesting to find out who supplied the fish in question.

[Moderators: Please feel free to erase this if I've put the forum in legal jeopardy, or if I'm out of bounds.]
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#222258 - 06/17/10 10:27 AM Re: Bluegill or redear? [Re: bowjo]
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Can you tell me how big this fish is?

What size it was when you stocked it?

When they were stocked?

I am really concerned as to the size of my fish since these look much larger and I think I may have stocked mine before you.

Please let me know.

Thanks

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