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I went back in my e-mails and found it, Mark - don't give my memory that much credit:)

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I can't even remeber where to find my emails? LMAO


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If you have google or yahoo you can do a search by keyword, such as "alkalinity," and it will search your inbox, sent messages, all of your e-mails - good feature, comes in handy at times.

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We successfully drained the pond this weekend and was quite surprised that there were no CC in there at all. They were all bullheads! If you remember my original stocking in the new pond was 200 CC from Zett's fish hatchery in WV and they claimed there was no way they could have mistaken BH for CC. Guess what Zett's- you screwed it up!


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Did you move any of the fish ? Good luck with the fix.
















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We saved all the 4 year old bass and larger BG. I am not sure how many will survive the move and subsequent restocking though. The water was muddy and oxygen was depleted at the end. many smaller BG and LMB died unfortunately. We left all the BH and a couple of huge grass carp to die. We did the absolute best we could.

All in all I would say it was a success. I will let you know when we transfer them back. I dont know what they will have for froage in my little 1/4 pond with only 4' depth.



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Believe it or not the fish you thought died may have been revivable. I had a situation where when I drained a pond down the remaining fish that weren't seined stirred up the mud and became stunned. When moved immediately to fresh water they were revived.

The mud that is kicked up can stir up gases and of course uses up oxygen. There was a Native American tribe that actually harvested fish from a river backwater in Ohio this way. They would stir up the bottom bringing up methane gas by pulling a large rock behind a canoe. As the stunned fish came up they would capture them.

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Pulling a large rock behind a canoe?

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I was also thinking of available space. The pond I drained was 2.16 ac. and the pond I put them in to hold is only about 1/4 acre and it was really muddy as well. We drained water from the big upper pond into the lower pond. I just hope to be able to transport some of the 5 yr. old LMB back into the pond when we refill it so I dont have to start over.

Another concern when I get to that point will be what kind of balance will I have? I started the pond new and had a pretty good balance going. I'm sure it will take some thinking to get the population right again.



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When you transfer the fish back, if you really wanted to you could weigh/measure/tag all the big ones and log all the info.

At least you'll know exactly what is in the pond when you're finished! It shouldn't be that hard to get it back in balance.


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Pulling a large rock behind a canoe?


I guess it depends on how large the rock is eh? grin

I did read this in a historical account somewhere.


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Also on how namy paddlers are in the canoe. If memory serves me right, there were some pretty big canoes made!


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There were approximately 15 - 4lb. LMB in the pond from my original stocking of 200 fry in Sept '05. I thought that was a bit low. We could have lost fish because we started the drawdown and the pond froze for a few weeks and the guy I hired to do it started draining the water off the top and not the bottom. I feel like he drained alot of the oxygenated top layer off and left the fissh with less oxygenated water to live in. All with a slid layer of ice on top.

There were only 3 of 8 grass carp left from the original 8 i stocked in '07 I think. they were impressive. From 8" to 3' in that short of time. that is why i suspect i may of had some fish kill this winter during the drawdown.

I didn't know the contractor had started the drawdown or i would have had him at least until the ice melted. catching and moving those fish using feed buckets and Rhinos was like a Chineese fire drill. Unless someone can tell me a better way it will be really hard to catch, weigh, measure and move them again without significant mortality.



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