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#209835 - 03/24/10 05:37 PM Lake Chubsucker from Greg
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Just got an e-mail from Greg as we work out his delivery of some adult chubsuckers. He is apparently having success shocking up some fat healthy looking lake chubsuckers to bring north to Virginia for me.



That is one BIG chubsucker!
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#209838 - 03/24/10 06:01 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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Another photo Greg sent:



Many look to be ready to spawn. I hope they survive the holding period and are ready to pull off a spawn when I put them into my ponds.
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#209843 - 03/24/10 06:12 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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Wow, I'm planning on meeting up with them as well. I was concerned about the chubsuckers avoiding predation, but definitly not anymore!

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#209845 - 03/24/10 06:17 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: s_montgomery]
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I'm planning to meet him at honey lake when he comes to north fl. and i will get mine then. Its gonna be interesting to see how well they fit the nitche i want in my pond.
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#209846 - 03/24/10 06:40 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: rcn11thacr]
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Those are some chubby suckers, how long does it usually take for them to get to that size?
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#209859 - 03/24/10 08:42 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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Nice looking brood fish.
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#209861 - 03/24/10 08:51 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: ewest]
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They look like very good bass food to me. Bottom oriented soft rayed fish. I doubt very much they will get that big in the northern states due to shorter growing season.
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#209862 - 03/24/10 08:55 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: Bill Cody]
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Congrats im jealous! I would assume that they are also not a very fast fish when it comes to escaping predators? anyone know?
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#209864 - 03/24/10 08:59 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: Bill Cody]
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Not really familiar with the term ChubSuckers, so I need to learn more. They really look like some nice Suckers, and they really are good Smoked!

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#209886 - 03/24/10 10:49 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: JKB]
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They don't do very well in ponds that don't contain good amounts of vegetation as they end up mostly being bass food from lack of a place to hide. My hopes are I have just enough vegetation that a few brood fish survive, but that most of the little ones get turned into bass food. I would say the fish in those photos are 5 or 6 years old. But like anything, it really depends on the body of water they come from. If anything I think there are better odds they will be eaten into extinction than there is of them getting over populated. Chubsuckers are very new to the pond world, so the next few years will be lots of learning. Most will be going into my future SMB/RES/male BG and possible striper pond. A few will be stocked into my forage fish only pond. So we will see how they do...
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#209951 - 03/25/10 12:34 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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Sounds like another interesting forage option, my pond is probably too acidic but it might benefit alot of pond owners.
CJ did you put cover into your ponds like pine trees, and what type of structure do they use to spawn on?

PS. I looked up creek chubs and they can tolerate PH down to about 5, I wonder how close they are to LCS.


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#210010 - 03/25/10 10:17 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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 Originally Posted By: CJBS2003
They don't do very well in ponds that don't contain good amounts of vegetation as they end up mostly being bass food from lack of a place to hide. My hopes are I have just enough vegetation that a few brood fish survive, but that most of the little ones get turned into bass food. I would say the fish in those photos are 5 or 6 years old. But like anything, it really depends on the body of water they come from. If anything I think there are better odds they will be eaten into extinction than there is of them getting over populated. Chubsuckers are very new to the pond world, so the next few years will be lots of learning. Most will be going into my future SMB/RES/male BG and possible striper pond. A few will be stocked into my forage fish only pond. So we will see how they do...


SMB/RES/M BG/Striper pond? Woo hoo! TELL US MORE \:\)
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#210013 - 03/25/10 10:18 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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Creek Chubs won't reproduce in pond environments tho, will they? Don't they need stream habitat/running water? I most certainly may be mistaken...what do you think?
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#210018 - 03/25/10 10:27 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: teehjaeh57]
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Yeah TJ, I think creek chubs need running water, but since they can tolerate acidic water I was wondering if they were closely related to LCS, the chart I have doesn't show PH tolerance of LCS.
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#210035 - 03/26/10 12:05 AM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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AP, actually I think LCS would do great in your pond... They prefer soft acidic waters.
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#210104 - 03/26/10 04:35 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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Well CJ that might be another option to try if I go ahead with CC, I have a lot of GSH & PS's but another forage fish like LCS might help grow the CC's, and a self sustaining forage base would be needed in time of emergency when fish pellets might not be available.
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#210171 - 03/27/10 09:57 AM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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CJ, Thanks for posting.

Ok update we about 80 big LCS or so and started losing a few. Put in tanks last night and now down to 62 after checking them this am in our flow thru. If not stressed they should do well until we can take some to each of you who wanted them. Not a money maker for me for the effort but so far so good just hope for all our sakes they do well until mid May for you VA folks and for whenever I go south to FLA.

AP, LCS do best in soft acidic water, that is where we shock them.
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#210227 - 03/27/10 04:11 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: Greg Grimes]
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I'll cross my fingers Greg...
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#210274 - 03/27/10 10:49 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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AP have you considered diversifying your forage by adding Scuds, Shrimp or another minnow species in addition to the LCS?
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#210387 - 03/28/10 04:58 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: teehjaeh57]
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TJ I think my water is too acidic for shrimp, 5.5 - 6 PH.
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#210396 - 03/28/10 05:05 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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In general most shelled crustaceans, crayfish, shrimp, scuds do best in neutral to slightly alkaline waters. You see it all the time when doing invertebrate collecting in different trout streams. Those with limestone soils have piles of crawdad and scuds. Those without or with acid mine drainage issues are often barren of them and boy can you see the difference in trout growth between the different streams!
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#210405 - 03/28/10 05:35 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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I agree with that CJ, the stream I siphon water for the pond from had a PH around 6, the biggest BRKT I've ever gotten out of it was less than 10", but when I put them in the pond they really grow and fatten up with all the food and forage in the pond.
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#210406 - 03/28/10 05:47 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: adirondack pond]
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Yeah, not having to constantly fight a current allows them to pork out too...
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#210418 - 03/28/10 07:46 PM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: CJBS2003]
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Greg, did you happen to measure length on any of those brooder chubsuckers?
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#210479 - 03/29/10 07:31 AM Re: Lake Chubsucker from Greg [Re: overtonfisheries]
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Give me a buzz when your ready to meet down here in fl. Thanks Greg!
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