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#200898 - 01/26/10 06:06 PM Need Fish Identification Help
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Gary from Central Florida is having problems with a muddy pond and recently during the cold snap had several of these prehistoric looking fish float up dead. He says the scales have sharp spines on them and is very curious as to what these fish are? I will direct Gary to this thread if someone out there knows what kind of fish this is?
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#200899 - 01/26/10 06:12 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: n8ly]
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Is it a plecosthamus (sp????). You know, the kind you buy in a fish store?
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#200900 - 01/26/10 06:16 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Sunil]
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 Originally Posted By: Sunil
Is it a plecosthamus (sp????). You know, the kind you buy in a fish store?


Thats what I am going with.

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#200902 - 01/26/10 06:19 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Chris Steelman]
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Pleco, can't tell what kind on that rotting specimen. I have 4 in my home aquarium. Thet get a couple of feet in warmer water.

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#200904 - 01/26/10 06:23 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: The Pond Frog]
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http://www.bowfinanglers.com/images/nickv_pleco_072806.jpg

Cold snap killed them. That fish was old.


Edited by The Pond Frog (01/26/10 06:34 PM)

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#200906 - 01/26/10 06:26 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: The Pond Frog]
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Definitely a pleco, aka Sailfin Catfish. They quickly outgrow a lot of smaller aquariums, so people release them into ponds and lakes quite often.
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#200919 - 01/26/10 08:01 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Weissguy]
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Where'd you find him? In Illinois? The only wild reproducing populations I am aware of are in FL...
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#200928 - 01/26/10 08:39 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: CJBS2003]
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Would that thing hit a bait? Not ever seeing one, that would defo creep me out if I reeled it in. Like hooking into a coelacanth.
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#200941 - 01/26/10 09:15 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Brettski]
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They are omnivores, eating just about anything on the bottom. They have have a strong preference for algae and carry the common trade name of algae eating catfish. They will however eat bloodworms and other bottom invertebrates. They actually are good eating from what I have heard. In Central and South America where they are native, they are cooked whole and "cracked" open where the meat is taken out. They have a very hard outside "shell".
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#200969 - 01/26/10 10:02 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: CJBS2003]
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central florida and this guys pond may be full of them?
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#200976 - 01/26/10 10:14 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: n8ly]
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I've seen them in a retention pond near my folks' condo in Florida.
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#200979 - 01/26/10 10:15 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: n8ly]
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Part of me wants to go make peace with my bullhead population.
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#200980 - 01/26/10 10:17 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Sunil]
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Maybe you can talk him into trying one as food... Not sure what could eat them other than alligators with as hard a shell as they have.
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#201004 - 01/26/10 11:39 PM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: CJBS2003]
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I think their scales are tougher than a Gars'.
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#201021 - 01/27/10 01:42 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: n8ly]
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 Originally Posted By: n8ly
central florida and this guys pond may be full of them?


Could very well be. They are THICK in some BOW's in Florida.
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#201023 - 01/27/10 01:57 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Weissguy]
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I had those in an old cichlid aquarium.
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#201025 - 01/27/10 02:10 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: MikeyBoy]
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I've got an 8 inch pleco in one of my tanks right now. I got him about 6 months ago. He came with a 55 gallon tank I bought on craigslist. Had no choice... If I wanted the cheap tank I had to take the pleco too. He was about 4 inches when I got him. May have to move him to the tank at the office soon. It's a 120 gallon.
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#201045 - 01/27/10 09:02 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Brettski]
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Would that thing hit a bait? Not ever seeing one, that would defo creep me out if I reeled it in. Like hooking into a coelacanth.

More like an ostracoderm.
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#201047 - 01/27/10 09:09 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Theo Gallus]
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or a plesiosaur
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#201049 - 01/27/10 09:15 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: Brettski]
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I'm thinking Theo should modify his avatar so that it morphs from a LMB, to a BG, to a RES, to a plesiosaur and then back to a LMB.
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#201058 - 01/27/10 09:42 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: jeffhasapond]
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I told Theo I wanted to see a GSF morph to a SMB.
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#201063 - 01/27/10 10:01 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: ewest]
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Strange Ewest, I was thinking of having an morphing avatar designed in which all species of fresh water fish morphed into a GSF and then stayed that way. Evolution at it's finest!
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#201068 - 01/27/10 10:11 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: jeffhasapond]
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Genetic misfits usually end up in the ash heap of genetic history , as in extinct. \:D
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#201070 - 01/27/10 10:14 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: ewest]
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Ewest, I'm not sure whether you are directing that comment towards me or towards GSF. Either way.....


OH SNAP!!!
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#201071 - 01/27/10 10:24 AM Re: Need Fish Identification Help [Re: jeffhasapond]
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For sure a pleco. Considered an invasive species b/c down here they get huge in peoples aquariums and they "release" them into the wild. my inlaws in south FL have several that have spawning beds in a canal behind their house. One of them is a monster at least 2 feet long. Supposedly were around when the dinosaurs were roaming around. Gotta admire that kind of longevity and adaptability.

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