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Went to the pond Sat. to pump more db100, this time cause my leak is at the dam I stretched a long weighted tarp across from the dam about 6ft. out. I was hoping to keep a more concentrated solution by the dam with the tarp barrier.
I pumped 2 1/2 gallons of DB and also added 50lbs. of oats to the mix to provide more material to hopefully help seal the leak.
This morning the leak had definitely slowed, so I'll see how it progresses in a week, I have 1 gallon of DB left.





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Looks like you're making oatmeal.


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I see your floating island is still floating in the background...

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The plants on the island are doing great, but with the cold wet summer not much flowering.



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adirondack pond did you use oats because they expand in water ? did you buy at the farm feed store.

i assume you arranged the tarp where it was a "container" in the pond and then added the oats and db? then when all mixed you release the tarp in the vicinity of the leak?


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FR, I did get the oats at a feed store, I decided on them cause they do expand well. When the oats are put in about half sink, the rest usually within a day.
In the photo the dam is on the left and the tarp is kept in to allow the concentrated mixture to flow thru the leak in the dam.



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adirondack pond- Interesting approach. As long as it works I wouldnt care what I added! I've never heard of oatmeal so let me know how that works! Sounds much better than manure ..haha Another update on my pond. We haven't had any rain to speak of for a few weeks now and it is still holding really steady. It's dropped the usual couple inches due to some hot windy weather but I've noticed it's holding more steady than the pond right next to mine and it's been there for 50+ years an keeps a really constant water level so i'm going to go ahead and declare success on my pond for everyone out there waiting on a definite answer. My pond went from leaking 1.5 inches a day or more to less than 1 inch per week now. I'm going to disk up the banks this fall and add some DB-200/Bentonite Mix then compact with sheepsfoot roller to see if I can get the fall/winter rains to bring it on up to the 8-10ft mark. I'll keep everyone posted!

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Congratulations on fixing the leak. Glad to hear of your success.

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Wonderful idea about the oats AP!!! thanks. now i will try to figure a way to get them out from my dam to the deep spot, which is where i think it is leaking.

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Grats on your success Belkins!


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Lets add that to the list---- keep us posted

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Accounting for rain (not adjusting for runoff) we lost 2 5/8 inches this past week. i am sure there was evaporation, so it is really hard to tell if the first application of db100 and bentonite has helped, but there is less loss per week the past 2 weeks by about 1/4 to 1/2 inch than when we started on 8/1/09. i know hydrostatic pres sure is less on the leak shearly due toless water. i am still waiting to apply the 0second six gallons of db100 and may use oats (thx to adirondike pond) over the places i think are in the vicinity of the leaks. the wet spots are still about as wet, but each of the past 2 times visiting our pond on Saturday there had just been a rain on friday nite.


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Thanks for the update

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update on my anticipated pond repair--not having luck getting clay dug/moved on my property--attempted to purchase and have it delivered from a nearby source---not much success there yet either-- still plan on trying to dig a mini-core on face of dam and pack with good clay and mix in some db-200 then plan on mixing kitty litter+db200 and raking it into area between water level and new core--i see no way to compact it such as sheepsfoot due to steepness of dam (may try to use the small trac-hoe to compact if i have time left on it) --results of my "experiment" station--my insulated bucket has lost very little water (less than 1/4 inch over a month) compared to 8 or 9 inch loss from pond. that pond loss is very little compared to what i lost from feb thru july 1 (app 5 to 6 foot) even with a good inflow of water up until july. i suppose the good news is that if i ever stop the leaking i will have a full pond due to good water supply nov thru july 1-- the bad news is i may not be able to stop the leak without going broke. too much invested in this mudhole to stop now though.

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I really like the newspaper lining of a pond to stop a leak in an earlier post.

I would think if you lined the bottom of a pond with dollar bills you might also seal a leak. The paper used in money is pretty tough and if you calculate the surface area of the pond and all the money you'd need, you may just be ahead of the game. \:\)

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That's a great idea scruffy fish! Buy why use dollar bills? I would think Ben Franklins would be the way to go. I mean it's hard to put a price on a nice body of water!

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I was a worried that it would come to this.

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Our weekend visit to our pond revealed that we lost a net 2 inches this past week. The 2 places below the dam are still very wet. Each time it rains with any strength, i hope the db100 sprayed on the banks on 8/1/09 is reactivated, while going into the pond and doing its thing. The time has come to apply the second 6 gallons with some other organic matter. I am thinking of Adirondack Pond's idea of oats. are there any other ideas on this? The feedstore guy said old timers around there use barley. i am aware it is used for algae control but is it helpful with leak fixing. does it enlarge wet like oats? any ideas on that?


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1 Thanks for the update!!!!

2 oats or barley? This is kind of new not sure what to say.

Old timers will feed there livestock in a pond to make it hold, but half of the process is to have the feet pack the bottom.

keep us posted.

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Reading through this entire post has taught me two things

1. I need to get more sleep

2. I am going to have a liner installed in my new ponds

Keep up the good fight guys, very funny about lining the pond with money, I may do the same with the hull of my boat

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I added a second 6 gallons of db100 to my pond Saturday. This time i applied it all to the water rather than, as last time, part to the banks/part to water. This time i placed it over the areas that i feel are leaking with 250# oats. Also i have gotten a bloom of plankton in the past 3 weeks after having extremely clear water with considerable vegetation far from the surface. It is my hope that the lack of light from the bloom has killed or begun killing the vegetation, allowing for additional organic material to work with the db100.

Otto if this doesn't work, i want your input as to what to do next.

I would have posted a photo but cannot figure how. Can someone tell me how and I will.


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http://picasaweb.google.com/rawaits/091409?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_zpYba6YDgrgE#5381322009620614258

lets see if the photos can be viewed at the above link. As you can see, i was still at it into the sunset.

also forgot to mention, the pond is about 1/4 acre or more smaller than when the 1st application was done on aug 1 due to the leakage. on the positive side, that lets the db100 be more concentrated. note link may also be below. There are 2 photos.

Applying Db100

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Yep and then if you click on the photo and then click on "copy image address" you can insert the image address into a post lika this:




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You can do this by either pasting the image address into the post window and adding [img] at the beginning and [/img] at the end see below:

'[img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mKDfkSOVHgQ/Sq5L3lMTVnI/AAAAAAAADJE/aqvgN5LWv9g/s640/IMG00070-20090912-1833.jpg[/img]

and this is what will appear:

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