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#181258 - 08/31/09 07:00 PM what type of sunny
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is this a common sunny or blue gill?



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#181265 - 08/31/09 07:51 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: andyafton]
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Bluegill, northern (common) strain.

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#181270 - 08/31/09 08:35 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Walt Foreman]
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Your pond looks nice in the other thread.

I would have to guess bluegill also, but does the gill-tab tell us anything?
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#181272 - 08/31/09 08:43 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Sunil]
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Sunil, are you suggesting longear?
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#181277 - 08/31/09 08:49 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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No. I really don't know. It just struck me as odd looking.

I'm not a bluegill-hugger like some of you nuts here.
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#181279 - 08/31/09 08:57 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Sunil]
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Paging experts, inquiring minds want to know.( Walt I'm not suggesting your wrong). ;\)
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#181285 - 08/31/09 09:36 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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I'm thinking BG x longear. None of the BG that I've caught here up to the Yooper border in Wi had "ears" that long.
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#181316 - 08/31/09 11:05 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: andyafton]
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I get Bluegills sometimes on My Local Lake that have similar Ear Tab characteristics. -



I fish quite a bit, and have pretty good knowledge of Fish ID - and I've never caught a Longear Sunfish in NY. I've read they are sometimes found here - more toward the Hudson, but I've yet to see one -

Sorry if I only confused the issue -

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#181317 - 08/31/09 11:14 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: F-H]
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The eartab is unusual - didn't notice that the first time. Longear are mainly a stream/river fish so if it came from a pond it would be less likely to be one of those, though it's certainly not impossible. All other characteristics, i.e. body and face color, body shape, etc. are a common-strain bluegill's.

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#181318 - 08/31/09 11:15 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Walt Foreman]
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Also, I'm proud to be a bluegill hugger. If I ever catch that two-pounder I may even pull a Bill Dance and smooch him.

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#181319 - 08/31/09 11:15 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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Paging experts, inquiring minds want to know.( Walt I'm not suggesting your wrong). ;\)


WHY WAS MY POST CHANGED!!!
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#181324 - 08/31/09 11:21 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Walt Foreman]
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Bluegill, northern (common) strain.


Ditto. IMHO the ear tab position is just a genetic anomaly. Kind of like some brook trout I once had with spots arranged in pairs.


Edited by Cecil Baird1 (08/31/09 11:22 PM)
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#181326 - 08/31/09 11:23 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Cecil Baird1]
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Bluegill, northern (common) strain.


Ditto. IMHO the ear tab position is just a genetic anomaly. Kind of like some brook trout I once had with spots arranged in pairs.


To quote the actors who were passed off as Bartles and James, thanks for your support.

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#181329 - 08/31/09 11:28 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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Paging experts, inquiring minds want to know.( Walt I'm not suggesting your wrong). ;\)


WHY WAS MY POST CHANGED!!!


Requesting an explanation.
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#181332 - 08/31/09 11:35 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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WHY WAS MY POST CHANGED!!!


Requesting an explanation.


Since whoever altered my post will not own up to it, I won't bother posting anymore.
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#181335 - 08/31/09 11:51 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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Get back here! You're too valuable of a member to just leave.


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#181338 - 09/01/09 12:00 AM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Cecil Baird1]
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Get back here! I'll be the first to deny that it was me! (I'm too far down the food chain and want to keep it that way).
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#181340 - 09/01/09 12:06 AM Re: what type of sunny [Re: esshup]
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Get back here! I'll be the first to deny that it was me! (I'm too far down the food chain and want to keep it that way).


I think only a mod could have done it so you're innocent.
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#181375 - 09/01/09 04:34 AM Re: what type of sunny [Re: adirondack pond]
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#181471 - 09/01/09 02:13 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Theo Gallus]
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I'm going with standard bluegill....but the eartab is messed up a little bit. I'd guess that it's nothing more than a morphological anomoly.
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#181472 - 09/01/09 02:15 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Bruce Condello]
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"I'd guess that it's nothing more than a morphological anomoly."

Maybe something like your new avatar?
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#181473 - 09/01/09 02:18 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Sunil]
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Since we are guessing.

LES X BG

Not pure BG. Look at the fins. BG = Pectoral fin elongate and poined , LES = Pectoral fin rounded and Black opercular spot with a pale edge

Gill plate up turned in LES & RBS. Some color like a RBS hybrid also.





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#181476 - 09/01/09 02:26 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: ewest]
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In my opinion, there's nothing about the coloration of this fish to suggest anything other than pure bluegill.

I believe if there's some longear genetics contributing to the upsweep in the eartab, it's considerably less than 50%.
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#181477 - 09/01/09 02:28 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Bruce Condello]
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What about the fins - does that = 33% more ? \:D


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#181493 - 09/01/09 03:21 PM Re: what type of sunny [Re: Bruce Condello]
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I'm going with standard bluegill....but the eartab is messed up a little bit. I'd guess that it's nothing more than a morphological anomoly.


I think the family in Bruce's pic has some bluegill genes in it. Or at the least something down the chain somewhat from homo erectus.

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