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what about gizzered minnows?? Do y'all mean Gizzard Shad?
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Correction. Not carp, but Creek Chub. And there's lots of them. Went out this morning to retrieve the crayfish trap and got about 30 or so of these little fish.
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Creek chubs are gluttonous and are pretty easy to catch in a minnow/crayfish trap. They make great bait, particularly for pike.
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Creek chubs are also excellent bait for catching LMB.
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That's what I've been reading, great bait fish. So I took these 30 or so home with me and put them in my little garden pond. Interestingly, 2 were out of the pond when I got back from Easter dinner, dead of course. Anyway, there was an article in a Pondboss mag a couple months ago regarding a worm farm that I'm going to get my boy working on. So he can feed the gluttons and keep them around for some LMB and walleye bait at a nearby lake. As long as they stay in the damn water.
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All good dozer guys consider a day that it is raining like a legal holiday.
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All good dozer guys consider a day that it is raining like a legal holiday. That's probably true, but even the potential for rain? Ok, so put all those creek chub in my garden pond here at home so I'd have some live bait to take to the lake Wednesday. I checked after our Easter dinner and a few were dead out of the water. I come home from work today and I think all of them have jumped out. Really strange.
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Must not have liked the water... I have kept creek chubs in my parent's old backyard pond without issue.
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Still waiting for my dozer guy to get going. Been raining pretty good the past week so I don't blame him. Crossing my fingers for this coming weekend...again. In the meantime, with the help of my son and the neighbor kids, we built these pvc trees.
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If it is raining the dozer guy is on holiday.
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Ok, my Geometry's a bit rusty so help me out with these dimensions please. I taped the outline of my prospective pond and would like to know the acreage (.8, 1.0, 1.2, etc.). And please don't laugh at my extremely rough sketch.
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Ok, I think I figured it out and let me know if I'm wrong or not. It's basically almost exactly 1/2 acre. I guess I need to rename the thread.
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I would estimate about 1/2 acre as well.
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Omaha, I see photos of so many ponds on here that are said to be about an acre, and nearly all look smaller than mine. I asked the builders of my pond how big they thought it was, I baited them and said, about 3/4 acre? They said no, much bigger, more than an acre. Walking around it with gps, it came to 35,000 sq ft., 2/3 acre of water when full.(not walking in the edge of water) Folks can get into big trouble by over estimating the size and average depth of their ponds. Therefore, bigger is not always better.
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Ok, not much to look at, but for those who've been in my situation, you can empathize with my enthusiasm I'm sure. We officially began moving dirt this week, ripping stumps out right now. Unfortunately, I'm not finding the soil I was hoping for, so if we don't find clay soon, we'll have to improvise. Luckily, I do have a source for some good clay "sealant".
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Omaha Thanks for the pictures. It looks like you are having fun. Keep us posted as much as possible espically with pictures.
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Some slightly better pictures of the recent progress from today. Week-by-week updates here. You guys are in this with me. Just lots and lots of stumps and roots, tearing up large amounts of dirt. Stump removal. Very large trees and our 'dozer guy took the afternoon off so I attempted to move them with the bobcat. I think this one weighed about as much as the bobcat. How not to do it. Seriously, though, 30 seconds after this picture was taken, this stump was in the truck.
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I will GLADLY trade you some excellent Red Clay for some of that topsoil to cover my rock garden called the Missouri Ozarks!
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I will GLADLY trade you some excellent Red Clay for some of that topsoil to cover my rock garden called the Missouri Ozarks! We have a source, but if you want some dirt, have the means to get it out of here, you're more than welcome to it. We certainly have plenty and digging out there today, there was some really good black stuff. We've only dug 5 feet, currently, and have yet to hit clay...we'll see...
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Who took the picture when you where on your nose?
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Who took the picture when you where on your nose? My dad. Instead of saving the truck, bobcat, or his son, he took the time to step back and snap a photo.
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Looks like you could sell tickets for that ride. lol Seriously though, unless you have other plans for structure, I would have set that bad boy aside and reinserted for structure when the pond was finished. My RES would LOVE that big honker.
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Looks like you could sell tickets for that ride. lol Seriously though, unless you have other plans for structure, I would have set that bad boy aside and reinserted for structure when the pond was finished. My RES would LOVE that big honker. We just dumped them into a ditch nearby, so if I decide to go back and pull a couple out for structure, I can do that.
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Dirt work is absolutely addicting. If I didn't have a job, I don't think I'd take a break.
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