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Three bluegill--three different feeds #154448 03/21/09 12:42 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Three bluegill. All 40 weeks old. All started at the same appoximate size. Three different pelleted feeds. BTW...the answer is no. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154450 03/21/09 01:12 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. P P. Buckley Lunker P. Buckley Lunker P Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. Details?! Do not tease us. Please

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds P. Buckley #154455 03/21/09 02:09 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States No. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154458 03/21/09 02:18 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny A adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker A Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny I'll take a guess, top one dog food, middle one aquamax, and bottom one aquamax with ground-up GSF.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds adirondack pond #154459 03/21/09 02:27 PM Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,025 Likes: 1 Houston, Tx. B burgermeister Lunker burgermeister Lunker B Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,025 Likes: 1 Houston, Tx. Dont know the answer, or question. I do know they are not from your ponds.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds burgermeister #154463 03/21/09 03:37 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: burgermeister Dont...know...I...not.....ponds. Sorry, absolutely not. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154464 03/21/09 04:25 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,615 Likes: 5 Pond in No CA, Me in So CA J jeffhasapond Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker jeffhasapond Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker J Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,615 Likes: 5 Pond in No CA, Me in So CA Photo 1 = Kellogg's Special K Photo 2 = Aqua Max 75 Photo 3 = Purina Mutant Bluegill Chow JHAP ~~~~~~~~~~ "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." ...Hedley Lamarr (that's Hedley not Hedy)

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jeffhasapond #154470 03/21/09 05:47 PM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss. 1. one pellet of catfish food a day 2 one feeding (5 pellets of 32%) every other day 3 Frankenbruce 300% liquefied pellets by feeding tube and hooked to a force feeder pump Last edited by ewest; 03/21/09 06:50 PM.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds ewest #154471 03/21/09 06:14 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States It's hard to tell from the picture, but all three fish are actually loaded with pellets. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154474 03/21/09 06:53 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello BTW...the answer is no. How long will you toy with us mere mortals? Does someone have to guess each pellet food correctly? "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds davatsa #154475 03/21/09 07:02 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia J jsand13 Lunker jsand13 Lunker J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia Ok Well I will start the guessing then. 1. Game fish chow 2. Aquamax 3. Silvercup

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds davatsa #154478 03/21/09 07:04 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma J jakeb Lunker jakeb Lunker J Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma Bruce...can we make this matching? Give us 10-15 choices?? and work from there??!! Get out and fish.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jakeb #154480 03/21/09 07:16 PM Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 325 Phoenix, AZ A AaronM Lunker AaronM Lunker A Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 325 Phoenix, AZ Can I play?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds AaronM #154481 03/21/09 07:17 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States NO! Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154482 03/21/09 07:21 PM Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 325 Phoenix, AZ A AaronM Lunker AaronM Lunker A Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 325 Phoenix, AZ Didn't think so.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds AaronM #154484 03/21/09 07:24 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States If anybody would like, you can send me a PM and I will find an alternate way to decline your request. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154485 03/21/09 07:27 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia J jsand13 Lunker jsand13 Lunker J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia Why don't you just let us know what the first fish was raised on so we can stop using that feed.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jsand13 #154486 03/21/09 07:32 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Tell me what you're using and I'll tell you if you should be worried. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154487 03/21/09 07:36 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia J jsand13 Lunker jsand13 Lunker J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia I don't think I should be worried. Im using Aquamax 500.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154488 03/21/09 07:38 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Believe it or not, that top fish is a CSBG and it's bigger than the average fish of it's age. The fish in his tank don't like their food when it's on the top. The fish in the other two tanks will take the more preferred food off the top even when the water is super cold. I don't know why. Maybe they just like it that much. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jsand13 #154489 03/21/09 07:41 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. P P. Buckley Lunker P. Buckley Lunker P Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. May the fleas of a dozen camels infest your armpits, (unless you tell us).

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154490 03/21/09 07:42 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia J jsand13 Lunker jsand13 Lunker J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 471 Appling ,Georgia How long does it take for a 1" CSBG to get to 5" or so?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jsand13 #154491 03/21/09 07:50 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: jsand13 How long does it take for a 1" CSBG to get to 5" or so? It takes from age 2-month to age 9-month Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jsand13 #154492 03/21/09 07:54 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: jsand13 I don't think I should be worried. Im using Aquamax 500. You're definitely OK. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154503 03/21/09 08:58 PM Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA "May the fleas of a dozen camels infest your armpits, (unless you tell us)." Thank you P. Buckley. Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Sunil #154509 03/21/09 09:41 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX I can't guess all three, but I'd say Aquamax 300 or 600 had either of the top two results. EDIT: Bruce has been feeding his largest BG Aquamax Largemouth, hasn't he? Last edited by davatsa; 03/21/09 09:49 PM. "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds davatsa #154517 03/21/09 10:02 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio I think #3 has been eating the top secret feed Bruce has been beta testing for Mark Griffin. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #154664 03/23/09 08:26 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny A adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker A Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny Do we have to wait untill Christmas?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds adirondack pond #154671 03/23/09 08:45 AM Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,365 Eunice, Louisiana B bobad Lunker bobad Lunker B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,365 Eunice, Louisiana I suspect human sacrifice in that bottom fish. Hey, if that's what it takes... Shrimp

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds bobad #154688 03/23/09 09:51 AM Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA "I suspect human sacrifice in that bottom fish. Hey, if that's what it takes..." Apocalypto Condello-Style? Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Sunil #154696 03/23/09 10:13 AM Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 16,058 Likes: 278 Hurst & Bowie, Texas D Dave Davidson1 Moderator Lunker Dave Davidson1 Moderator Lunker D Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 16,058 Likes: 278 Hurst & Bowie, Texas Is there any way we can ban Bruce? Was there any difference in anything other than feed? Were all three fish representative of the population in that pond? In other words, what else may have been different? It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color. Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done. Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Dave Davidson1 #154704 03/23/09 10:26 AM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio  Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1 Is there any way we can ban Bruce? I don't think so, but I understand the sentiment. Most of us probably would have been happy with BG #1. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #154711 03/23/09 10:42 AM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma J jakeb Lunker jakeb Lunker J Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma This thread makes me lose sleep at night! Soon my work will start to suffer. Get out and fish.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jakeb #154733 03/23/09 01:56 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth C CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth This post is like forcing a fat kid to sit and watch while you eat a big piece of cake!

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds CJBS2003 #154740 03/23/09 02:16 PM Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,365 Eunice, Louisiana B bobad Lunker bobad Lunker B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,365 Eunice, Louisiana Maybe Bruce sang to the top fish, hummed to the middle one, and did nothing to the bottom one. Don't matter to me. I have some as big as the bottom one anyway. They're like 7 years old, but so what? Shrimp

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds bobad #154743 03/23/09 02:20 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny A adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker A Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny I think there should be a law against sadistic people being allowed to practice Dentistry, But it's normal for pondaholics.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds adirondack pond #154749 03/23/09 02:58 PM Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,285 Likes: 1 Southwest Ohio R Ryan Freeze Lunker Ryan Freeze Lunker R Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,285 Likes: 1 Southwest Ohio Since we haven't been given an answer yet, I noticed when I switched from PGFC to Aquamax that the it took awhile for the bluegill to really start eating it. They don't seem to be eating as much either which wasn't a big concern for me since the protein content of the Aquamax is almost 50% higher. Maybe how it tastes has more to do with growth than the protein content. It would kinda make sense...if given the choice of eating whey protein or big macs, I'd gain more on big macs because I'd eat more even though the whey protein shakes have higher protein concentration. "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." Stephen W. Hawking

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Ryan Freeze #154756 03/23/09 03:24 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Ryan, I have noticed when switching feed at the end of the year (and trying to finish off whatever I have left) that my fish don't like going from GFC to Aquamax OR from Aquamax to GFC. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Ryan Freeze #154757 03/23/09 03:25 PM Joined: May 2008 Posts: 477 Belleville Illinois B Brett295 Lunker Brett295 Lunker B Joined: May 2008 Posts: 477 Belleville Illinois  Originally Posted By: Ryan Freeze Since we haven't been given an answer yet, I noticed when I switched from PGFC to Aquamax that the it took awhile for the bluegill to really start eating it. They don't seem to be eating as much either which wasn't a big concern for me since the protein content of the Aquamax is almost 50% higher. Maybe how it tastes has more to do with growth than the protein content. It would kinda make sense...if given the choice of eating whey protein or big macs, I'd gain more on big macs because I'd eat more even though the whey protein shakes have higher protein concentration. Can fish have heart attacks? If not I migh try that big mac thing. it's probably cheaper than GFC

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Brett295 #154766 03/23/09 04:55 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth C CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth You would think BG would go by the mantra "beggars can't be choosers" but apparently they didn't get the memo...

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds bobad #154772 03/23/09 06:22 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: bobad I suspect human sacrifice in that bottom fish. Hey, if that's what it takes... Nope. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Dave Davidson1 #154773 03/23/09 06:23 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1 Is there any way we can ban Bruce? Was there any difference in anything other than feed? Were all three fish representative of the population in that pond? In other words, what else may have been different? Uh uh. Sorry. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #154774 03/23/09 06:23 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus Ryan, I have noticed when switching feed at the end of the year (and trying to finish off whatever I have left) that my fish don't like going from GFC to Aquamax OR from Aquamax to GFC. Yep, same here. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds adirondack pond #154775 03/23/09 06:24 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: adirondack pond I think there should be a law against sadistic people being allowed to practice Dentistry, But it's normal for pondaholics. Disagree. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds bobad #154776 03/23/09 06:26 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: bobad Maybe Bruce sang to the top fish, hummed to the middle one, and did nothing to the bottom one. No, NO, NOOO!!!! Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Sunil #154777 03/23/09 06:27 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: Sunil Apocalypto Condello-Style? Negatory there, Big Ben. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154779 03/23/09 06:33 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Same three fish, overhead view. One fish doesn't like his feed when the water gets too cool. To be honest, he eats it, and then spits it out a lot. The next fish likes his food a lot, but it sometimes gives him the runz, and lots of algae grows in his tank. He grows rapidly, but if you look at his innards upon dissection, some of his organs don't look quite right. He'll still outgrow any of his cousins who don't have feed by about two to one. The biggest fish eats his food when it gets cold out, and seems to come to floating pellets better than the other two fish. He also doesn't appear to have any sorts of internal issues. Believe it or not, by percentile, vs. the fish that weren't given any feed at all the fish ranked as follows: Smallest fish, about 60th percentile Middle fish, about 97th percentile Biggest fish, they don't make a percentile high enough for him Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154781 03/23/09 06:49 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX Bruce, Pardon me for missing the point, but is the difference in size a function of the feeding behaviors of each individual fish in response to temperature (as implied in your last post) or the use of different types of pellets (as suggested in your original post). A combination of both? "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds davatsa #154784 03/23/09 06:58 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Great question. I'm not sure. I think that a particular food may have "cues" that tell a fish to stop eating. I also think that how much a fish "likes" a particular feed may dictate whether it will come to the surface in borderline temperatures--like in the 50-55 F degree range. Most of this is speculation, but when fish that start out all the same, and are grown in identical tanks with identical water and identical temperatures, and you've got fish in one tank hammering pellets off the top in 52 degree water, and fish in the other tank just barely blipping the pellets, maybe you're on to something. If I could just get into their teeny-tiny minds maybe I could know for sure. One thing I do know is that high quality feeds make bluegill grow a lot, even in really cool water. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154790 03/23/09 07:23 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth C CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth Sounds like you need to selectively breed BG for what kinda feed you're going to feed them. Aquamax strain BG, Purina strain BG, etc... Some BG like one feed over another, so if you selectively breed ones that like the certain feed you are going to feed your fish, then you're on your way???

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds CJBS2003 #154791 03/23/09 07:25 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: CJBS2003 Sounds like you need to selectively breed BG for what kinda feed you're going to feed them. Aquamax strain BG, Purina strain BG, etc... Some BG like one feed over another, so if you selectively breed ones that like the certain feed you are going to feed your fish, then you're on your way??? I absolutely and whole-heartedly agree with the entire sentiment of this last statement. I think you can select bluegill, or any fish for that matter, to like a certain type of food. I also think that fish do this themselves in a pond environment. If you have abundant glass shrimp, then you will quickly select for bluegill who like, and are good at capturing glass shrimp. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154795 03/23/09 07:33 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth C CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth Evolution on a small scale... Definitely a very interesting idea! How practical do you really think it is though Bruce?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds CJBS2003 #154798 03/23/09 07:43 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States I think it's practical for anybody crazy enough to want to try to grow fish quickly for aquacultural needs. The problem is to figure out what you've just selected for. If your fish are loving a particular feed, are you selecting for the taste of the feed, or the shape, or the buoyancy....or maybe consistency. It's all so complicated and intertwined. When my bluegill grow quickly in indoor tanks am I selecting for food conversion?...or maybe ability to thrive in salinity??...or maybe preference for a round tank????. I think you get my picture. Any time you try to select a fish, or other animal, there's a myriad of things you may be selecting for and not realize it. It's virtually impossible to isolate and control all your variables. I deeply respect scientists who do this sort of a thing for a living. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154801 03/23/09 07:59 PM Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 328 Louisiana, USA E ericdc Lunker ericdc Lunker E Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 328 Louisiana, USA It looks like growth hormones and steroids have expanded from Major League Baseball and found a new home in Condello's bluegill.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154802 03/23/09 08:01 PM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss.  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello  Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus Ryan, I have noticed when switching feed at the end of the year (and trying to finish off whatever I have left) that my fish don't like going from GFC to Aquamax OR from Aquamax to GFC. Yep, same here. Aquamax when it hits the water immediately gives off an oil sheen and GFC does not. I don't like switching feed. So I mix AM 500 and GFC. The mixing transfers oil from the AM to the GFC. The fish eat both well , get a higher protein level than with just GFC and while AM tends over time to cause clogging in the feeder the mix does not because some of the surface fish oil is absorbed into the GFC.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds ewest #154803 03/23/09 08:13 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma J jakeb Lunker jakeb Lunker J Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma Ewest does any of this help explain your exp with OTS CNBG feeding heavy in cold water? Or is that still an unexplained phenomenon? Get out and fish.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jakeb #154804 03/23/09 08:15 PM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss.  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello I think it's practical for anybody crazy enough to want to try to grow fish quickly for aquacultural needs. I deeply respect scientists who do this sort of a thing for a living. The problem is to figure out what you've just selected for. Did you select for him or did he slect you ? Last edited by ewest; 03/23/09 08:16 PM.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds ewest #154806 03/23/09 08:26 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny A adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker adirondack pond Ambassador Lunker A Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,135 big moose ny SO the moral of this story is fish are just like people, different likes, different tastes, and different genetics.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jakeb #154807 03/23/09 08:33 PM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,505 Likes: 269 Miss.  Originally Posted By: jakeb Ewest does any of this help explain your exp with OTS CNBG feeding heavy in cold water? Or is that still an unexplained phenomenon? Good question. I don't have an answer on that behavior. Those fish only stopped feeding like that for 2 weeks after we had 18 F low temps for 3 days ( 48-50 water temps). They started up the same feeding activity when temps went up to 52 F and are still eating like that. The fish were stocked in late Nov with the bigger fish at 5 inches. Upon close viewing at the feeder the bigger fish are now 8 inches. That is 3 inches of growth over 3 mths when cold water generally means no or little growth. I have not caught any yet and will not be doing so until after they spawn so I don't have positive measured data. Another measuring criteria is gape size - the bigger fish now easily eat AM 600 when thrown out.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds ewest #154811 03/23/09 08:56 PM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Since we are talking about selecting fish for fast growth the Piketon research facility in Ohio has now increased growth rates in yellow perch by 40 percent, and this is just the beginning. They are looking for volunteers in the midwest to grow them out and report their results. I remember a guy named Wallat telling us at an aquaculture meeting about them collecting perch from different regions and comparing growth rates etc. I hope I didn't derail the thread. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Cecil Baird1 #154813 03/23/09 09:01 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Not derailed at all! How can I get some of these perch? Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154828 03/23/09 09:51 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello Great question. I'm not sure. I think that a particular food may have "cues" that tell a fish to stop eating. I also think that how much a fish "likes" a particular feed may dictate whether it will come to the surface in borderline temperatures--like in the 50-55 F degree range. Most of this is speculation, but when fish that start out all the same, and are grown in identical tanks with identical water and identical temperatures, and you've got fish in one tank hammering pellets off the top in 52 degree water, and fish in the other tank just barely blipping the pellets, maybe you're on to something. If I could just get into their teeny-tiny minds maybe I could know for sure. One thing I do know is that high quality feeds make bluegill grow a lot, even in really cool water. Perhaps it would be informative to to switch feeds for the fish (or strains of fish) and see if Mr. Finicky started hogging out when put on the super mystery feed. Although you might just run into the feed change problem Eric and I discussed above. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #154829 03/23/09 09:55 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello Great question. I'm not sure. I think that a particular food may have "cues" that tell a fish to stop eating. I also think that how much a fish "likes" a particular feed may dictate whether it will come to the surface in borderline temperatures--like in the 50-55 F degree range. Most of this is speculation, but when fish that start out all the same, and are grown in identical tanks with identical water and identical temperatures, and you've got fish in one tank hammering pellets off the top in 52 degree water, and fish in the other tank just barely blipping the pellets, maybe you're on to something. If I could just get into their teeny-tiny minds maybe I could know for sure. One thing I do know is that high quality feeds make bluegill grow a lot, even in really cool water. Perhaps it would be informative to to switch feeds for the fish (or strains of fish) and see if Mr. Finicky started hogging out when put on the super mystery feed. Although you might just run into the feed change problem Eric and I discussed above. Already did it. Interesting results. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154832 03/23/09 09:58 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio If we have to wait another 7 pages to found out what they were, I'm betting the "over" on this thread. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #154834 03/23/09 10:10 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 343 SW Illinois D DJT Lunker DJT Lunker D Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 343 SW Illinois I think Bruce is holding back details for a upcoming article. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds DJT #154836 03/23/09 10:46 PM Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,025 Likes: 1 Houston, Tx. B burgermeister Lunker burgermeister Lunker B Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,025 Likes: 1 Houston, Tx. OVER and OUT!.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds burgermeister #154837 03/23/09 10:47 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma J jakeb Lunker jakeb Lunker J Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 686 Randlett, Oklahoma DJT I suspect the same Get out and fish.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds jakeb #154840 03/23/09 10:50 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States To be honest with you, I'm not entirely sure what the feed is that got the 3rd bluegill to grow so big. It's experimental and I'm not privy to all the details. I'm just trying to generate a little excitement. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154842 03/23/09 10:58 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE Color me excited. I'll take a dozen of whatever it is...double secret probation pellets? Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds teehjaeh57 #154844 03/23/09 11:03 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX Well if other folks have similar results, the creator of that feed is sitting on a gold mine! The results speak for themselves...I'd buy it and try it. "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #154852 03/24/09 04:58 AM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello To be honest with you, I'm not entirely sure what the feed is that got the 3rd bluegill to grow so big. It's experimental and I'm not privy to all the details. That amount of growth is okay, just as long as it doesn't taste like Grandma. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds DJT #154926 03/24/09 12:50 PM Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth C CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker CJBS2003 Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker C Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 10,458 Likes: 2 Earth  Originally Posted By: DJT I think Bruce is holding back details for a upcoming article. I third that!

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds CJBS2003 #154942 03/24/09 02:47 PM Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 15,154 Likes: 493 Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH B Bill Cody Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Bill Cody Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker B Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 15,154 Likes: 493 Northwest Ohio - Malinta OH I think the feed for the third larger fish is a low fat high protein feed and in testing phases. aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine - America's Journal of Pond Management

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bill Cody #154948 03/24/09 03:14 PM Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA The funked-up internal organs of the middle fish are disturbing. Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Theo Gallus #155008 03/24/09 08:21 PM Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 343 SW Illinois D DJT Lunker DJT Lunker D Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 343 SW Illinois  Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello To be honest with you, I'm not entirely sure what the feed is that got the 3rd bluegill to grow so big. It's experimental and I'm not privy to all the details. That amount of growth is okay, just as long as it doesn't taste like Grandma. Theo you are thinking of Tomacco. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Sunil #155772 03/29/09 01:33 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Nine month old fish that have been raised on 3 different feeds. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #155774 03/29/09 02:58 PM Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Sunil Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,761 Likes: 301 Somerset, PA I dig your new signature line Mabro! Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Sunil #155775 03/29/09 03:00 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #155779 03/29/09 03:23 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds davatsa #155780 03/29/09 03:33 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #155781 03/29/09 03:39 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX D davatsa Lunker davatsa Lunker D Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,256 San Antonio, TX "Only after sorrow's hand has bowed your head will life become truly real to you; then you will acquire the noble spirituality which intensifies the reality of life. I go to an all-powerful God. Beyond that I have no knowledge--no fear--only faith."

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #155787 03/29/09 04:10 PM Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Theo Gallus Moderator Lunker Joined: May 2004 Posts: 13,978 Likes: 277 Central Ohio  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> There went lunch. "Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #155831 03/29/09 08:02 PM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello Not derailed at all! How can I get some of these perch? Contact Piketon? Actually Bruce if your really want fast growing perch mine are pretty quick growing after selective breeding for 30 generations by a couple of folks in Ohio of the next to the latest was Bill Lynch of Marysville, Ohio is the master at perch production. (Same line Bill Cody has)They're originally from Lake Erie. I believe it's more than 40 percent above standard rates as I can produce perch some of them up to 8 inches by the end of October. I wonder how big they'd get if kept indoors in the winter? Only trouble is the testing fees or just under about $300.00 to send them to you. And unfortunately I'm not producing any perch this year due to that pond being used to hold fish until the big pond gets repaired. If I get enough interested parties next year to cover the testing I could be interested in shipping out some fingerling yellow perch. Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 03/29/09 08:21 PM. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bill Cody #155832 03/29/09 08:04 PM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana  Originally Posted By: Bill Cody I think the feed for the third larger fish is a low fat high protein feed and in testing phases. Maybe low carbs too or high protein low carbs? If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Cecil Baird1 #156078 03/30/09 09:28 PM Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 10 Indiana A angolajones Lunker angolajones Lunker A Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 10 Indiana Do you notice a taste difference when eating fish due to what you feed them? That would determine what I feed the fish. Jonesy

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds angolajones #156083 03/30/09 09:33 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States Bruce Condello OP Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker OP Bruce Condello Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,854 Likes: 1 United States  Originally Posted By: angolajones Do you notice a taste difference when eating fish due to what you feed them? That would determine what I feed the fish. Jonesy That's a valid question, but I haven't tried eating them yet. I'm sure I'll eventually get to that. I do know for certain however that the fish that I've raised in the past on Aquamax are delicious. Holding a redear sunfish is like running with scissors.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Cecil Baird1 #156088 03/30/09 09:41 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE  Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello Not derailed at all! How can I get some of these perch? Contact Piketon? Actually Bruce if your really want fast growing perch mine are pretty quick growing after selective breeding for 30 generations by a couple of folks in Ohio of the next to the latest was Bill Lynch of Marysville, Ohio is the master at perch production. (Same line Bill Cody has)They're originally from Lake Erie. I believe it's more than 40 percent above standard rates as I can produce perch some of them up to 8 inches by the end of October. I wonder how big they'd get if kept indoors in the winter? Only trouble is the testing fees or just under about $300.00 to send them to you. And unfortunately I'm not producing any perch this year due to that pond being used to hold fish until the big pond gets repaired. If I get enough interested parties next year to cover the testing I could be interested in shipping out some fingerling yellow perch. Cecil - I am in...will you keep me on your list when things clarify? A perch with your and Bill's recommendation is all I needed to hear. Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds teehjaeh57 #156100 03/30/09 10:09 PM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana  Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57  Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1  Originally Posted By: Bruce Condello Not derailed at all! How can I get some of these perch? Contact Piketon? Actually Bruce if your really want fast growing perch mine are pretty quick growing after selective breeding for 30 generations by a couple of folks in Ohio of the next to the latest was Bill Lynch of Marysville, Ohio is the master at perch production. (Same line Bill Cody has)They're originally from Lake Erie. I believe it's more than 40 percent above standard rates as I can produce perch some of them up to 8 inches by the end of October. I wonder how big they'd get if kept indoors in the winter? Only trouble is the testing fees or just under about $300.00 to send them to you. And unfortunately I'm not producing any perch this year due to that pond being used to hold fish until the big pond gets repaired. If I get enough interested parties next year to cover the testing I could be interested in shipping out some fingerling yellow perch. Cecil - I am in...will you keep me on your list when things clarify? A perch with your and Bill's recommendation is all I needed to hear. O.K. as long as I get enough people to help pay for the testing. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Cecil Baird1 #156106 03/30/09 10:21 PM Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker teehjaeh57 Chairman, Pond Boss Legacy award; Moderator; field correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 8,799 Likes: 69 Lincoln, NE I betcha Bruce would be down too...and Shorty may have his land and ponds done by then...? Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds teehjaeh57 #156117 03/30/09 11:08 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. P P. Buckley Lunker P. Buckley Lunker P Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Edmond, OK. Bruce I saw the camels itching the other day. They look like they are really infested. When are we going to find out the facts? Next issue? By the way that stuff from the vet for fleas will not work in these guys. They have been carefully selected over several generations, putting only the biggest and the fastest growing back on the camels and the other ones culled.

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #423300 09/08/15 12:50 PM Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2,901 Likes: 146 West Michigan C canyoncreek canyoncreek C Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2,901 Likes: 146 West Michigan found this old post on a google search. Is this secret food that grew the huge BG in this post the same secret food that has resurfaced in some newer threads this summer? Has it been in development since 2009? Are we ready to release details or allow others to order it? Bruce have you continued to use this same fish food?

Re: Three bluegill--three different feeds Bruce Condello #423328 09/08/15 04:39 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,054 Likes: 12 SC Nebraska N NEDOC Lunker NEDOC Lunker N Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,054 Likes: 12 SC Nebraska Glad this got bumped! I was off the board for a few years and missed this. Just a Pond Boss 'sponge'