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 Originally Posted By: DJT
Whoa......Cecil I am talking about sodium hydroxide not bleach(sodium hypochlorite). Sodium hydroxide doesn't contain any chlorine.


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Oh Boy!
There is that K-Bomb word again, that is how I found this site in the first place. Is there any way to find out if the K-Bomb was ever used, say several years ago, but maybe over a long period of time? Would older fish show it, or would it be in the sediment? Inquiring minds want to know. Love you guys!


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Since this is the chemical thread at the moment:
The current issue of Oakland Lakefront (www.oaklandlakefront.com)has an article about flame retardant chemicals (polybrominated diphenyl ethers) showing up in Great Lakes game fish and Detroit river turtles.


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Oh Boy!
There is that K-Bomb word again, that is how I found this site in the first place. Is there any way to find out if the K-Bomb was ever used, say several years ago, but maybe over a long period of time? Would older fish show it, or would it be in the sediment? Inquiring minds want to know. Love you guys!


I wish I could help Lynda. I know just enough about all this to get me in trouble. I do know a local reservoir used to be treated with some kind of arsenic based herbicide years ago and I was told by a biologist not only did that pretty much sterilize the sediments but it will stay buried in the sediment for a long time. I've been told that using copper products to much will also do this.

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 Originally Posted By: 2catmom
Since this is the chemical thread at the moment:
The current issue of Oakland Lakefront (www.oaklandlakefront.com)has an article about flame retardant chemicals (polybrominated diphenyl ethers) showing up in Great Lakes game fish and Detroit river turtles.


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Cecil:
Did you say arsenic based? When a former lake chair wrote in our newsletter "We have blue green algae, but we don't think it is the toxic type" I had lots of neighbors in panic mode wondering if the water was safe (a dog died that year in Fenton from cyanobacteria exposure). They had never done water testing before, and still refused to test the water. Later on they set up a "task force" of people that didn't live on this lake to study the problems and they tested the water - they sent it somewhere and the test performed then was the type of test they do for drinking water. I was told it came out a little high in arsenic. Are those K-Bomb type products arsenic based? I assumed the arsenic thing was probably from pressure treated wood used on all the decks around the lake (built in the 70's).
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Don't know Lynda. Pesonally I believe using treated lumber would add neglible amounts of arsenic to the water but I really don't know. I do know some of the fertilizers they use on those golf course like lawns on lakes around here have got to end up in the lake from time to time. One lake near me that used to have cisco and lake trout now has marginal oxygen levels late in the summer. Nitrate levels are through the roof and I'm sure man made activities including a nearby hog farm have something to do with rapidly increased eutrophication.


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I just got the number, it came out as 2,700 with 58 being ok for drinking water. No other lake was tested for drinking water standards, so i don't know if that 2,700 would be normal. I know that arsenic in ground water wells in Michigan has shown to be somewhat high - but I think this number (don't know if it is PPB or what, makes me think we were on the right track with what we thought possibly.


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Sorry I just don't have expertise in that area. In fact I don't have expertise in much at all.


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