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Hey there, My neighbor stocked our pond a few months before we moved, so id say around a year ago. I was just lookin for any information as to where I can get feeder fish to put in the pond around the Nacogdoches area. I dont see as many minnows and shiners along the waters edge as I used to. It was stocked with LMB, brim (or bluegill) and some minnows n shiners...should I have to add more feeder fish? What size should I let the bass get to before its safe to add catfish?
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Hi Joe: Don't get gizzard shad - they are a problem in our lake in Michigan.
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ok thanks for the heads up...what kind of problem have they been?
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I still havent found anyone who sells fish for ponds in the East Texas area. I hope I dont have to go down to the local baitshop and buy a ton of minnows.
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Lots of them around. Try Overton Fisheries.
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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
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Once you have an established population of LMB, minnows and shiners will be eliminated (sooner and later, respectively), unless restocked constantly. BG are prolific enough that they are the backbone of the forage food chain in a bass pond. Rather than spending money trying to maintain a baitfish population, you would be ahead to maximize your BG's productivity by feeding. Unless you are stocking large catfish (over a couple of pounds), that are no danger to small bass. Large cats will compete with adult bass for food. P.S. That's a nice, safe looking signature photo, Joseph. Just don't use roaming eyeballs or crawling bugs, as they make people around here nervous.
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Joseph,
Depending on what your neighbor stocked, you may be OK.
A lot of people add fathead minnows, (FHM), but down South, they just get eaten up unless you take extrordinary measures for cover. The only reliable minnow forage is probably gambusia. You may have them already, as they usually show up in southern ponds. If not, they're easy to net from local waters. Just make sure you don't get any carp fry by mistake, as that would be tragic.
Is that you with Chuck? I thought it was Jason Lambert at first.
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I still havent found anyone who sells fish for ponds in the East Texas area. I hope I dont have to go down to the local baitshop and buy a ton of minnows. Don't do that! You will be paying way to much for minnows. Bait shops are notorious for having undesirable fish species mixed in with their minnows. If you realy want minnows check out Andersons fish farm. They sell 250,000 Golden Shiners for $250 (pretty good deal). They only do this for a short time in the spring. The price includes shipping and handleing. as stated earlier Feeding your BG is the cheapest way to increase the amount of small fish for your predator fish. The less BG have to worry about food the more they can focus on spawning.
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wow thanks for the 411....yes that is me and chuck liddell.
I know he stocked some bluegill, and I used to be able to throw just about anything and catch them all day. But I think they have gotten lure shy cuz crappie nibbles, lures, jigs nothing works. I hear them floppin around, and I see small bass schooling minnows in the shallows so I know they are there. But I like to beable to catch a few to track the growth of the LMB
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If you are looking for a fish farm in north east Texas you could try Dunns fish farm you could check out thier website and they deliver to local feed stores or you could try pond king they also have a web site and are located near Gainseville TX.
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Ive been catching and rasing Gambusia out of a friend of mines pond.Its full of em and I can go trap em any time I want.If you want to make the trip,I dont mind sharing.
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If you still need fish, the drive down to Todd's place is well worth your time. His CNBG are fantastic and the feed trained LMB grow great. He can also set you up with Tilapia for your LMB forage and take pressure off the CNBG. He has provided our CNBG, RES, LMB (both northern feed trained and Florida), HSB, and Tilapia. http://www.overtonfisheries.com/
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