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#125007 - 07/15/08 09:17 AM Hydraulic oil spill
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Tow truck came to pick up pick-up, main hydro blew, 4-6 gallons hyd. fluid everywhere, 200' from pond, it will run downhill towards pond and eventually hit water. What should I do? What can I do? Any ideas would be helpful. I have called insurance co. waiting for them to call, but what's gonna happen to soil, driveway, and pond? The latter being the most important, of course. Thanks in advance, Kevin
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#125028 - 07/15/08 11:33 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Kevin H.]
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I'm sure someone else has more current info, but when I worked for a heating oil company spills were immediately handled by bringing in a backhoe and removing the affected soil and surrounding area. I forget what the depth and area was, but we would have to bring in fresh soil and do seeding etc... to bring it back to grade.

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#125034 - 07/15/08 11:59 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: sullpond]
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That's kinda what I thought needs to happen, the tow truck outfit laughed at me when I told them the severity of this incident, I doubt they'll be laughing soon, my ins. agent is calling EPA and DNR, and Ford too, heads are gonna roll. Hopefully they can get to the affected area before any rain falls, as it will surely wash into pond.
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#125035 - 07/15/08 12:01 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: sullpond]
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I have worked in the oil patch in Sask. Canada cleaning up oil spills and reclamation(turning a old well sites back to natural landscape. Hydrolic oil is one of the worst things. All the oilspills in the area get cleaned up and put into a holding bin. All sorts of bad stuff but hydrolic oil spills like yours would have to put in another pile because it is more harmful to the environment and is disposed of differently. I would dig it up. You will be able to tell how deep it went
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#125098 - 07/15/08 06:33 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: blair5002]
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virgin, if its gonna take a while for the "agencies" to force the tow truck co. to do somehting, in thh meantime i would protect the pond by placing straw wattle and (oil) absorbant pads downhill of the spill between the spill and pond. straw bales would work until you get better more absorbent material.

(google "oil absorbent pads" or call a local hazmat ER company for a source)

hyd. oil is not (or really shouldnt be) considered a chemical toxin but its high viscosity causes problems to bugs and birds and the like and it'l make an ugly slick if it migrates as far as the pond. hopefully you have somewhat permeable soil where the spill occurred, and most will sit right there until you can get it dug up.
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#125109 - 07/15/08 07:20 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: dave in el dorado ca]
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You can pick up bilge pads at West Marine or other Boat stores in a pinch.

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#125377 - 07/17/08 12:10 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: sullpond]
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Get the name of tow truck company's liability insurance carrier and file a claim----it will pay and remove the problem quickly. If the tow truck company won't give it to you, call the police and they will provide it then. BTW PICTURES PICTURES PICTURES--document EVERYTHING! times dates etc.
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#125392 - 07/17/08 01:21 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Rainman]
Kevin H. Offline
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Loc: Crown Point, IN.
They are coming today to assess the damage,(tow trucks insurance) my asphalt has turned to mush, and hopefully my soil has contained most of it, they will be removing soil and replacing, and they will be giving me a new driveway. I probably would have accepted less, but, when the guy from the towing outfit laughed at me over the phone, about my concerns with my pond and fish, I lost it. Now I am a BRICK WALL. Thanks to everyone who posted, you guys have been great! This couldn't have happened at a worst time either, hog roast is saturday, anybody who lives close and would like to come is invited. PM me for directions.
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#125408 - 07/17/08 02:41 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Kevin H.]
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 Originally Posted By: 40 yr old virgin
... hog roast is saturday ...

"Pork pull" in Texas! You learn all kinds of things in Arlington.
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#125416 - 07/17/08 03:44 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Theo Gallus]
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 Originally Posted By: Theo Gallus
 Originally Posted By: 40 yr old virgin
... hog roast is saturday ...

"Pork pull" in Texas! You learn all kinds of things in Arlington.


Theo, You are a sick man!!!!! You can probably get into a lot of trouble with peta pulling private pork parts in pre-pubescent public presense......dang, now I gotta p...


Edited by Rainman (07/17/08 05:02 PM)
Edit Reason: I'm the one that'sprobaly sick so please pardon any possible puns.
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#125617 - 07/18/08 09:22 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Rainman]
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We're gonna have to keep an eye on Rainman. Sunil, do you have a freak reading yet?
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#125618 - 07/18/08 09:28 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Brettski]
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I do. 8.5 on the weird stuff-o-meter.


Edited by Theo Gallus (07/18/08 09:29 PM)
Edit Reason: Many thanks to Agent J
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#125619 - 07/18/08 09:30 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Theo Gallus]
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I thought so...he's a keeper
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#125631 - 07/19/08 12:32 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Brettski]
Kevin H. Offline
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Loc: Crown Point, IN.
Two thugs show up today, from towing outfit, threatened me and my wife, then leave and call my cell phone.....low and behold, yes, they left a incriminating message, about watching my wife sunbathe, and that they have taken pictures of her. What they don't know yet is, the entire 'scene' in the front lawn was recorded on my surveillance, audio and all. The police will probably sell video to America's dumbest criminals, and they also heard voicemail. Heads are rolling!!! Getting those surveillance cameras was the smartest thing I think I've ever done, unintentionally speaking.
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#125632 - 07/19/08 12:32 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Brettski]
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Definitely a keeper, and a lunker, lurker. Join the fun, you can sure hang with this bunch.(condolences).
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#125638 - 07/19/08 01:34 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: burgermeister]
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keep us posted on the spill cleas up and the dumb criminals
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#125639 - 07/19/08 01:55 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: iowanagofishin]
dave in el dorado ca Offline
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 Originally Posted By: 40 yr old virgin
Two thugs show up today, from towing outfit, threatened me and my wife, then leave and call my cell phone.....low and behold, yes, they left a incriminating message, about watching my wife sunbathe, and that they have taken pictures of her. .......


thats f*#@!ed up virgin.....a sad statement on the quality of those folks......they (tow truck co.) would be best served to say "i'm sorry mr. virgin, we'll dig that stuff up and get you some clean soil pronto, then attend the maintenance of our rigs"

less $$ would be spent just getting after it, and everybody could reach consensus, instead they'l end up losing big (more power to you, keep the heads rolling), while everybody remains pissed off over the whole situation.

too bad they dont understand life's too short....get a grip guys.....

good luck virgin...keep us posted.
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#125652 - 07/19/08 08:03 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: dave in el dorado ca]
sullpond Offline
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Wow! how stupid and classless can people be? They've taken an accidental occurrence, and turned it into a criminal act.

Reminds me of the chimney sweep that brought his drunk brother to help, who then fell off the roof and sued us. He kept showing up to "see me" when I wasn't home. My wife finally had enough, so we reported it to our insurance, and they settled. I don't understand people anymore.

Don't cut them any slack, and make sure the cops get those tapes.

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#125655 - 07/19/08 08:24 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Kevin H.]
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 Originally Posted By: 40 yr old virgin
Two thugs show up today, from towing outfit, threatened me and my wife, then leave and call my cell phone.....low and behold, yes, they left a incriminating message, about watching my wife sunbathe, and that they have taken pictures of her. What they don't know yet is, the entire 'scene' in the front lawn was recorded on my surveillance, audio and all. The police will probably sell video to America's dumbest criminals, and they also heard voice mail. Heads are rolling!!! Getting those surveillance cameras was the smartest thing I think I've ever done, unintentionally speaking.


I hate stories like this. I'm an easy going guy until pushed beyond my sense of humor. Threaten me or my family at your own peril. You probably already have but if it were me I would:

1. Retain a civil attorney and determine what actions should be taken NOW in order to prevail in a damages suit.

2. Determine what agency licenses towing companies in your area. In California towing companies are intensely regulated. Find out what agency that is and write a letter and include copies of surveillance tapes and vocal recordings. Request a license suspension hearing.

3. Follow up with the police to ensure that criminal proceedings occur.

That's where I would start.
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#125659 - 07/19/08 08:38 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: jeffhasapond]
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ditto all the above thoughts...
I went from total disdain and incredulity
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Two thugs show up today, from towing outfit, threatened me and my wife, then leave and call my cell phone

...to Instant Karma
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What they don't know yet is, the entire 'scene' in the front lawn was recorded on my surveillance, audio and all

...to three cheers and a huge gufaw
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The police will probably sell video to America's dumbest criminals

...to reserved concern. I fear that the can of worms has only just been opened and the worst stink has yet to eminate. Attorney idea is definitely next. I imagine an attorney will recommend a restraining order, but we all know how protective those can (or can't) be. I'm not jealous of your situation, 40YOV, but appreciate your desire for justice. I truly hope it is achieved without further loss.
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footnote: 40YOV is in my neck of the midwest woods. Yep, this is OUR version of redneck hoodlums.
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#125673 - 07/19/08 09:28 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Brettski]
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Reminds me of the time the ex-convict made a brief trip through our front fence in a "borrowed" truck before returning to state sponsored housing.
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#125694 - 07/19/08 11:13 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Brettski]
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 Originally Posted By: Brettski
We're gonna have to keep an eye on Rainman. Sunil, do you have a freak reading yet?


My wife has one standard comment of me and even a .wav file, that simply says "That boy ain't right" I then remind her who she lives with and then she usually grabs an anti-depressent---I can't figure out why though?........?
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#133799 - 09/27/08 11:47 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Rainman]
Kevin H. Offline
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Loc: Crown Point, IN.
Hello ALL,

I thought i'd update the situation previously posted.

1). Received $14,000.00 for driveway. Way too much, the third estimate I got (which wasn't
requested) was for $6,700.00. Can I do whatever I want with the rest?

2). Oil never made it to pond. Even after Ike. Thank God!!!

3). Never, and I mean not once, has that tow truck, or its drivers, been past
my property, since that day. (added zoom camera to front, so I am sure of it.)

State Farm is my insurance Co. and even though it wasn't technically a claim by me,
they represented me all the way. Mods feel free to omit this, not trying to sound like a commercial, but S.F. took really good care me.

I would like to thank my lucky stars, nothing has become ugly. I believe the phone call I made to the owner of the towing outfit, which explained everything, video, audio, etc... had something to do with not having any retaliation. I will keep my fingers crossed (and my cameras rolling).
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#133832 - 09/28/08 11:19 AM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: Kevin H.]
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Glad it has turned out good 40.
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#133841 - 09/28/08 12:24 PM Re: Hydraulic oil spill [Re: jeffhasapond]
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dittos virgin.
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