Pond Boss Forums STOCKING A NEW POND Types of fish to choose F1 Bass Hatcheries

I live in North Carolina and last spring i built a one acre farm pond. I stocked it with 750 blue gill, 250 redears and i think around 5pds of fat head minnows. I am wanting to stock around 100 F1 type bass, i was wondering if somebody could recommend a hatchery to buy them from? Also if somebody sees something wrong with the way i am stocking please tell me. Thanks.

So far, so good. Now, figure out whether you want big bass or a bunch of bass. If you want larger bass, stock around 30 and cull anything under 12 or 13 inches after a couple of years. If you want a bunch of bass, stock 100. If you want big bluegills, stock 150 bass. No catfish?

i purchased my f1 bass from american sport fish in alabama,they will federal express them to your house.334-281-7703

BRad if willing to drive to N. GA We will have F1 "tiger bass" first week of JUNe. Your stokcing plan seems fine and like Dave said 100 is about right but less if you want better bass growth. $0.75 each

Bard,
If you decide to take Greg up on his offer, I wouldn't mind going along for the ride to keep you company. Shouldn't be more than 3 - 4 hrs?

Greg, how would he get them home?

i"m sure greg has a great place to look at but why would you drive 4 hours to get fish when you can have them delivered to your door.i agree with the other guy,call american sport fish and they will deliver to your door.they brought them by truck to my pond and relased them while kids took pictures.not sure about price this was over 2 years ago.

We can bag them up and they would make it just fine for several hours. I understand american sportfih will deliver. THis are their fish but unless in the area it is steep. They took a client of mine fish in NC a few years ago as well. Deliver fee was $150. Just providing an option. We will have them around 2nd week of JUne.

Does anyone know of a lab anywhere in the US that I can send tissue samples of my largemouth to find out if they are Florida strain, straight Northern or a mix? I cannot find out where the bass came from original in our lake when the were stocked in the mid 1980's. I would like to know so I don't waste my money purchasing pure strain Floridas to better the genetics and in turn help to produce bass over 10 lbs.

If I find out that I have Northerns or the bass are a weak mix but more Northern dominate genes, how many pure strain Flordia adults would you recommend I stock? Would 100 2 to 4 lb. pure strain adults be enough or am I better off geting fingerlings? I can get either. I realize that fingerlings will become prey in a lake that currently has adult bass in it and will also take time to mature and then spawn. Adults would spawn with my other bass faster and produce offspring.

The lake is approx. 100 acres and in California. I have been re-shaped the bass population over the last 1 1/2 years by culling and it has worked in increaing my bass sizes in whole by addind 3" on the average more in length and turned my RW from about 85 - 90% RW to now almost all at 110 - 120% RW.

Thanks!

Dave

The diagnostic lab at Texas A&M does that testing. 888-646-5623 ask for Dr. Jacques. They need liver samples of 30 fish.

University of Auburn does it too. When I looked into it I should have wrote price but did not but like you said need 30 samples and pretty dang high price. Todd do you know the price from TX A&M?
Bruce comes down to economics on how mant to stock to impove bass genetics. I ususally sell but about 5-10/acre but no real scieince to back this up.

Bruce, BTW I lost your email but it seems bluegill would be difficult to haul from Arkansas b/c legally I need permit from every state I drive thru, sorry to not follow up on that with you.

I think they charge $300

That is way less than Auburn. I might have to contact them about testing some clients fish. thanks for info!

Largemouth Bass DNA Identification in an existing population of Largemouth Bass

Mail to:

TVMDL
1 Sippel Road
College Station, TX 77843

Send a check for $ 400.00 to TVMDL

Request a “Largemouth Bass Test”

Include 30 livers packed in dry ice. Upon catching bass and while still alive remove the livers and place them in a small zip lock bag and immediately place them in dry ice. Freeze the sample in a deep freeze and then ship them in dry ice.

Collect the bass from different areas of the lake and record where the samples are from in the lake. Say around 6 areas of the lake with 5 samples per area.

For contact info contact – Dr. Scott Jacques at 888-646-5623.

The testing will include a break down of the genetic make up of the bass identifying percentage of Northern versus Floridas, pure Northern and pure Florida or F1’s.

With this data you can then add 4 pure strain fingerlings per acre in a virgin fishery or add up to 8 fingerlings in a fishery containing existing 1 – 2 lb. bass. The 1 to 2 lb. bass are the most aggressive predator on fingerling bass. It is advised to reduce the population of 1 to 2 lb. bass before stocking fingerlings. The survival rate on fingerlings is approx. 80%. The greater the amounts of cover in a lake, the higher the survival rate of the fingerlings that are stocked.

The right pectoral fin of the fingerlings can be slipped to 50%. On re-growth of the pectoral fin the fin will be wavy and not smooth. If stocking adult Floridas, use a hole punch on the tail of the fish to mark them. In this way you will avoid culling the pure strain Florida bass you stock.

If you are stocking adult pure strain Floridas you can stock approx. 50 adult fish (1 bass per each 2 acres). Stockings should be continued for a period of 3 years. Genetic sampling should continue for three years total from the date you first stock the pure strain Florida fingerlings or adults. Essentially you need to produce 3 spawn cycles to establish a solid F1 population. F1’s are more aggressive than pure Floridas yet get much larger than Northerns. Pure Florida’s get the largest, but are also the most difficult variety for sport fishing. Ideally it is best to have a population of F1 largemouth with some pure strain Floridas to produce overall good fishing with the chance of some very largemouth fish in the population.

Dave