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Is that 12 months after stocking?

What month were they stocked and how big were they at that time?

Nice fish. Very good "helmet" on that fish.


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Bruce,

Here is a link to the stocking plan used by Mike's POA.

http://www.pondboss.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=003732;p=1

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The fish were bitting last night.




Can you say too many BG


I know this is a BG tread but I caught this nice 15 in LM also.





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OK, M Spinhirne, so your fish were added March, '06, and were 2-3 inches. That means they were likely spawned in 2005, so they are what is known as "age-2". A bluegill in a new pond, with tons of natural forage, and constant access to pellets, and year around warm water temps should be able to get to 8 inches pretty easily. Up here in Nebraska it would take at least another year. I think the big thing is that your pond must have really good invertebrate communities to support such excellent growth.

Nice job.


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In fisheries science terms that BG is age 2 (barley). Common sense dictates another approach. I find it much more useful here to put small fish ages in terms of months as near as possible. That is because of the variation in spawn times that hatcheries have. In the deep south you may see a hatchery with 3 or 4 distinct yoy age groups of BG or more in one spawn season. On Dec 31/Jan 1 a hatchery may have 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 and 5 in. yoy/age 1-2 BG (actually anywhere from 2 to 9 mths old) . Mike's are probably 17 mths +- .
















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FWIW, when someone who doesn't measure bluegill on a regular basis reports 2-3 inch bluegill, nine times out of ten the fish will be 3 to 4 inches. I've seen that so many times I've lost count. A true two inch bluegill is barely identifiable.

The other fish that people always underestimate length from the hatchery is channel catfish. When people guess 10 inches, the fish is generally 12. It has something to do with the long forked tail.


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Bruce, posted below is illustration of procedure for “ legal” measurement of fish in Texas.
Is this method commonly accepted by other states and fisheries biologists?




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George,

Every article I've read on measuring fish shows the procedure you posted above.

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Every article I've read on measuring fish shows the procedure you posted above.
Does that mean now I can claim my 12 inch, 2 lb CNBG? \:D
With proper documentation of course.... \:\)

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As an angler I used to measure all of my fish with a sewing tape measure on top of my fish from nose to tail. Once I made a measuring board out of 6 inch PVC cut down the center length wise with a tape measure permanently mounted on it I was amazed at the difference in length between the two methods! A 19 inch fish using the board would be up to 2 inches longer with the tape meaure over the top. I point this out to my customers and they are surprised too.


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Bruce,
You are right in that the fish are 12 months after stocking. The fish were reported to be 2-3" and were probably based on the picture we took at the time. unfortunately I did not get any of the individual fish, but you can see where we have come in 12 months in the lake.
Erik is likely correct in estimating that they were from the last spawn of 2005, and since they came from South Texas, that probably took place in late October, making them 15-16 months old.
I have attached pictures of the stocking and now, as well as one of the bass that we stocked in May. I had recommended waiting another year to add the bass based on the forum advice, but the biologist hired by the developer wanted to add only 3 months after adding the BG. Of note, he stocked lowere levels of BG than I wanted, and higher stocking rates of bass. Fortunately both seem to be doing okay.




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My bluegill reproduction pond sits directly below my Morton building. This is naturally the most fertile pond that I've got because it catches the runoff from the original construction site, and it also catches all of the outflow from the Po'Boy RAS and the waste contained therein.

I'm taking bluegill from ponds that are known age-2 bluegill, then selecting the best ten males and females. Then I'm selecting another ten males and ten females from the age-3 and age-4 ponds. Then I mix them together and see what I get.


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Bruce we know what you get and I know others want to see !!! . \:\) \:D


















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Just for breeding/creating/raising/instigating/having a BG of that quality I think that Bruce should be given an honorary doctorate in fishology from the Pond Boss Institute of Higher Learning and Stuff.

Accordingly, by all the powers vested in me I do hereby bestow up you Bruce Condello an honorary Doctorate in Fishology complete with all the rights and privileges that do convey with a title of this prestigious nature.

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That being said I do think that somehow Bruce should be recognized. Do they give out a Nobel Peace Prize for raising humongous BG???





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I am happy to accept this great honor on behalf of Bruce, who is off somewhere growing or catching fish. He has assured me that he will not rest until all of us who are big BG enthusiasts are culling fish this size:



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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jeffhasapond:
....I do hereby bestow up[on] you Bruce Condello

Is it just me, or the wording above slightly disturbing? [I fixed it.]

Thank you so much for this honorary honor. I will make every effort to make you proud by catching a bigger bluegill this summer and posting it's pictures on this website, since nobody else on any other website would be even remotely interested. ;\)


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subliminal freudian envy \:D


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Originally posted by Bruce Condello:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jeffhasapond:
....I do hereby bestow up[on] you Bruce Condello

Is it just me, or the wording above slightly disturbing? [I fixed it.]
:D \:D \:D Stupid, stupid keyboard!


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Thank you so much for this honorary honor. I will make every effort to make you proud by catching a bigger bluegill this summer and posting it's pictures on this website, since nobody else on any other website would be even remotely interested. ;\)
Photos of your BG are always appreciated. It gives us novices an idea of what a great BG should look like.


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Originally posted by dave in el dorado ca:
subliminal freudian envy \:D
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Top 75 fish average length was 5.22 inches and 60 grams. That's an average Wr of 129.

Next 75 bluegill average length is 4.32 inches and 34 grams. That's an average Wr of 137.

Biggest fish was 5.75 inches and 80 grams which is a Wr of 126.

These results could be a little biased because I only sample what look like 10 representative fish from each tank, every time I take readings. Also I'm not sure about the biggest fish because the bubbles from the aerator make it a little hard to see each time.

Interestingly, it seems like the warmer water, which has crept up near 59 degrees has made the fish go through a sort of puberty. They've kind of taken off in length, but they're a little more streamlined looking.


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Interesting that as those BG get longer the Wr goes down.

That makes me think of the TPW 16 year study of LMB which found that the initial fastest growing LMB did not end up as the biggest fish for a variety of reasons.

Bruce copy that chart as a pic and post it or send it to me and I will.
















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Just sent it to you. I couldn't figure out how to make it look like a real chart. The figures were provided by Dr. Willis.


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Here's a pretty decent top view of what a really healthy bluegill might look like. I can't recall if I've posted this in the past.





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"Really healthy" is an understatement! That thing should be a linebacker for your mighty Huskers. Very impressive, Bruce. Now I know what I'm working toward.


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