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I'm guessing that even the self-deprecating pink tee shirt isn't going to keep me in the club this time.
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I'm guessing that even the self-deprecating pink tee shirt isn't going to keep me in the club this time. Probably not, it may however remove you from the death ray hit list provided of course that you wear this shirt during the 2008 Pond Boss Convention and pose for photos that will of course be posted to this site. Short of that I would recommend walking in a random zig zag pattern until further notice. PS we are still waiting for the GPS coordinates for our records, you cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated and have a nice day!
JHAP ~~~~~~~~~~ "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." ...Hedley Lamarr (that's Hedley not Hedy)
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JHAP, the board of directors needs to meet soon.....very soon.....
GSF are people too!
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Not to get on the bad side of the GSFA, but Yolk, are those tiger muskie?
It would be great to start a new thread re: musky stocking so we could easily monitor that project. It's interesting, and I don't think any of us have experience there.
Are you holding out on us??????
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...whatever happened to Bruce's Luskemunge project?
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No Way Jeff, it took two years for the tax assessor to stumble across me. That's what I get for clearing brush and improving my driveway where cars can get in! Women! I apologize to the GSA. If you go back to old links I even offered to make a donation to the GSA. You will notice also I have under my little motto place, "I wish I had the tenacity of GSF". They certainly do have tenacity! My only problem with them, is although my nipples have no useful purpose (at least that I can mention here), is I do wish to retain both my nipples. Now really is that too much to ask? It is Yolk Sac that has imported monster "yankee" fishes to gobble them up, not me. Now Jeff do you really think it fair for me to have to wear this swimming? In error I thought Theo had sent this, sorry Theo. And all this from a fellow CPA, you'd think you know I suffer enough already. On a more civilized note, what kind of kayak do you and your wife go fishing in?
I wish I had the tenacity of GSF!
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I am far too muscular to fit into such a contraption.
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You've got to have, like, 24-pack abs to be able to bench press half a ton.
I'm sure you have some kind of 24-pack, Sunil.
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I'm just too fat and not quite suicidal enough...give me a few months.
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I wish I had the tenacity of GSF!
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I apologize to the GSA. If you go back to old links I even offered to make a donation to the GSA. You will notice also I have under my little motto place, "I wish I had the tenacity of GSF". They certainly do have tenacity! Apology considered, however the GSA did notice that you made the following statement in this very same thread... Good! Greenies are nipple bitters and deserve to die! My only problem with them, is although my nipples have no useful purpose (at least that I can mention here), is I do wish to retain both my nipples. Now really is that too much to ask? Everyone must make sacrifices to preserve this marvelous species. Now Jeff do you really think it fair for me to have to wear this swimming? Fair no, amusing yes. It is Yolk Sac that has imported monster "yankee" fishes to gobble them up, not me. As soon as Yolk Sac cooperates by forwarding his GPS coordinates to the GSA he will be dealt with. So far his lack of cooperation in this matter is, in the opinion of the GSA, unsportsmanlike conduct. On a more civilized note, what kind of kayak do you and your wife go fishing in? We have a sit on top, two person "Ocean" brand kayak, customized with "scupper stoppers" (sounds more painful than it actually is), rod holders, and inflatable seats. It is very stable and fun to fish from.
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Yes GW, we know you love your Warmouth. Speaking of which how are they doing?
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The fish corral was a failure so I don't have any WM in captivity. I stocked my neighbor's pond with FH and after they spawn I'll start adding WM from his other pond.
I'm still curious about how similar WM and GSF are. I've done some searches but there isn't much info about either species, but even less about WM. So far I'm going on the assumption that they occupy similar niches.
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Originally posted by JHAP: As soon as Yolk Sac cooperates by forwarding his GPS coordinates to the GSA he will be dealt with. So far his lack of cooperation in this matter is, in the opinion of the GSA, unsportsmanlike conduct. Jeff, I just can't keep up with you when you're off your lithium!!!
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GW what kind of info are you looking for? See chart below on their genetic closeness.
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Thanks ewest! The main points that concerned me were, fecundity,low water quality tolerance, and feeding habits. When I thought I had GSF in my area I read that they could tolerate very low DO levels. Later when I was looking into WM I read that they aren't as hardy as GSF. That made me wonder how else they might be different.
I don't have any one specific concern, I just didn't have much luck in general when it came to researching WM.
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GW I understand but I may have sources to search that are not available to others. So what do you want me to look for wrt warmouth ?
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"but I may have sources to search that are not available to others"
Ahh yes. The truth finally comes out.
At the convention, I cornered ewest and demanded to know about the sources.
He just replied "I have no recollection of that, Senator."
I could only reply "but I'm not a Senator."
When I queried him a second time, he again replied "I have no recollection of that, Senator."
That is when I knew that the identity of the sources would remain with the Master!
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Originally posted by Sunil: Not to get on the bad side of the GSFA, but Yolk, are those tiger muskie? Yes, they are. I have no experience with pike or muskies, but am working on a 5-6 acre pond in which I hope to have SMB, CNBG, RES, and small numbers of HSB. From everything I read here, the SMB may not be able to adequately control numbers of the larger CNBG, and really want SMB in this pond rather than LMB and/or CC/BC. The muskies are said to be a little better in warm water than the northerns, and the fish guy had access to a few. I figure I can add them in one or two at a time, for a maximum of 8-10, and see what happens. My other 2 1/2 acre pond is a more traditional mix for this region, so I figure I can afford to experiment a bit with this one. If it's a total disaster I'll just send its GPS coordinate to the GSA, then start all over again.
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So what do you want me to look for wrt warmouth ? You should know me well enough by now ewest, I want everything.
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Yolk, how do you feel about starting a new thread regarding the 5-6 acre pond and the tiger muskie? I'd like to hear about any existing fish in the pond, you know, all the back story.
It does sound correct that if you want to start over, one can just malign the Green Sunfish, and there you go!
Man, what resources does the GSA have?
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You know, Yolk, this is a great beginning for a Pond Boss article submittal.
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GW I will see what I can find. Stay tuned.
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Thanks ewest, I've got Mr. H's small pond ready for fish and he's ok with making it a WM pond.
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Bits and pieces.
The Progressive Fish-Culturist Article: pp. 67–68 | Abstract | PDF (56K)
Fecundity of Bluegill and Warmouth from a South Carolina Blackwater Lake Frank M. Panek and Clarence R. Cofield
The fecundity estimate for warmouths ranged from 798
to 34,257 eggs per mature fish (96 to 222 mm TL). The
regression equation and coefficient of determination (r 2) of
fecundity on total length was 1og10 F = -4.678 + 3.889 log10
TL (mm) with r 2 = 0.67 (Fig. 2). Eggs of warmouths from
Lake Robinson exhibited a unimodal series of egg sizes
with a group egg diameter mode of 0.80 to 0.94 mm.
Warmouth fecundity was similar to that of fish from
other habitats. Larimore (1957) reported that the total
number of eggs per fish ranged from 4,500 to 63,200, and
Germann et al. (1974) reported that the number of mature
eggs ranged from 8,721 to 20,064. Larimore (1957)described
a unimodel size distribution of eggs and Germann et al. (1974)
a bimodal distribution. Warmouth data from the presen
study agree with those of Larimore (1957). The data suggest
that warmouths in Lake Robinson have a protracted spawning
season: mature and ripe females were collected from
April to September in 1975.
Abstract View Volume 32, Issue 1 ( 1903)
Transactions of the American Fisheries Society Article: pp. 116–125 | Abstract | PDF (219K)
Fish on the Farm – What Species to Select Samuel Lovejoy
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FISH ON THE FARM--WHAT SPECIES TO SELECT.
SA•IUEL LOVEJOY.
Living in the •ed hills of Georgia and never having seen over
a quarter of an acre of water is why I select the above subject.
The third best fish, in my opinion, for small ponds south i,
the warmouth bass, C galosus. It grows to much larger. sizv
than the bream, thick and fleshy, with large mouth, and is to
some extent cannibalistic, but not enough so to make it objec
tionable. It will eat a few of its own young, but not enough to
miss them--just enough to make the balance grow well.
The average weight of the warmouth bass is about one pounds.
though I have seen them weighing as high as five pounds. They
are very easy to raise; will do well in water with a temperature
at li)0 ø. I have seen them taken from stagnant wa•er. Th•
warmouth bass resembles the rock bass, with red spots on eyes
fore and aft, not as with the rock bass wit]• red spots top and
bottom of eye. These three fish are the very best for small ponds
and will satisfy any one at the table or market.
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