Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
blueyss, KiwiGuy, JKK, DerekG, lafarmpondguy
18,514 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,990
Posts558,253
Members18,515
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,569
ewest 21,507
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,154
Who's Online Now
1 members (RAH), 692 guests, and 147 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
W
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
W
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
after constructing my one acre pond, i knew that i wasnt going to pay much attention to my old pond. it is probably 1/8th of an acre. it has alot of sunfish and minnows. i would like to eliminate all of the fish and make it a pond that i can raise FH. i would like to take the FH and stock my acre pond when they are eliminated or short. so my question is how can i eliminate all of the fish?? other than seining what can i do? thanks for any advice.


1/10 acre pond-LMB,HBG//1 acre HSB, BG, RES, BLACK CRAPPIE--STOCKED APRIL 2007
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Lower the water as much as possible (to reduce the volume) and have it rotenoned.


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
W
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
W
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
hey theo thanks. another question! where can i buy rotenone? i tried searching online but not much luck. then again im not a computer wiz. thanks


1/10 acre pond-LMB,HBG//1 acre HSB, BG, RES, BLACK CRAPPIE--STOCKED APRIL 2007
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,154
Likes: 493
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,154
Likes: 493
To purchase rotenone for pond use one needs a USDA pesticide license. Several years ago rotenone was placed on a pesticide restircted use basis. You most likely will need to hire someone with a license to do the job for you.

Possibly another option for you is to drain the small pond in the fall or prior to a dry season and let the bottom dry out. Refill and you are back in business. Sometimes draining also helps temporarily reduce underwater weed growths. While you have it drained you may want to reshape the bottom to make it easier to seine for fish removal.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Most (maybe all) states require that rotenone be applied by a licensed person (fishery/lake management types).

I know Greg Grimes in Georgia handles it; I am sure there are a number of licensed applicators in Texas. If it was me, I'd start checking with the fish guys listed in PB Mag or the Pondboss.com Resource Guide.


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
 Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Cody:
To purchase rotenone for pond use one needs a USDA pesticide license. Several years ago rotenone was placed on a pesticide restircted use basis. You most likely will need to hire someone with a license to do the job for you.
Or you can study for and take the test to get your license when it comes up annually. However I looked into it for my state, and the fee of I believe $200.00 wasn't really feasible for the limited use I would get. I also know someone that will do it for me that has a license.

Not sure about Texas. Could be cheaper.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,507
Likes: 269
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,507
Likes: 269
You don't have to use rotenone. If you draw the water down enough then you can use hydrated lime .
















Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
 Quote:
Originally posted by ewest:
You don't have to use rotenone. If you draw the water down enough then you can use hydrated lime .
True! I've done that in my 1/10th acre ponds! It also kills predacious insects if you are going to produce fry.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
W
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
W
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
thanks guys. after looking and thinking about the smaller pond i have, i was wondering is there any better use that i could have?? maybe someone has a better idea on how to best utilize this pond? once again in my acre pond i have hsb,res,bg,black crappie thanks again guys


1/10 acre pond-LMB,HBG//1 acre HSB, BG, RES, BLACK CRAPPIE--STOCKED APRIL 2007
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,985
Likes: 281
Possibilities:

1. HSB grow-out pond

2. Male-only BG pond

3. CC pond

4+. ???

To an extent, these could be combined.

What's your dream pond wish list? If you could have any number of ponds, what would you want to use them for? Decide which of these use(s) can best be accomplished in 1/8 acre. We'll help; speculation with your $ is free!


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
W
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
W
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 47
well theo, at first i thought why not make it a forage pond?? that way i could always have plenty of minnows to feed my hsb, sunfish, and black crappie. but then i was also thinking of making it bigger and having catfish and bluegill. but i started to think even more and thought if i invest more into a pond i want to add to my one acre and make it two acres!! lol oh what we get for thinking. im not 100 percent sure what i want!! i really want my hsb and sunfish to strive and catch quality size in my acre pond. does that help!!! lol thanks again


1/10 acre pond-LMB,HBG//1 acre HSB, BG, RES, BLACK CRAPPIE--STOCKED APRIL 2007
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 274
C
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
C
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 274
ok, is there a system for using the hydrated lime? or how many pounds/1000gallons?

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,507
Likes: 269
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,507
Likes: 269
It depends on how much water is in the pond after reducing its level and on your alkalinity. You are raising the ph to lethal levels.
















Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 204
M
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
M
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 204
If you are going to be seining it to get the FH out, sein it a few times now and get out what is in it. Then stock your FH in and sein it to transfer to other pond. If you do not want the sunfish in your 1 acre pond then get rid of them when you sein. From what I know of HSB, they eat everything that swims. Of course I am a little biased since I am a bass tournament fisherman and I blame alot of poor LMB fisheries on wipers and HSB. If the 1\8 pond is close to the 1 acre pond, won't you have sunfish and minnows in the 1 acre anyways? I may be way off base, but I would think it would be easier and cheaper to leave the pond full and stock your FH. If there are no predator fish in the pond to eat the FH then you should be fine.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
gone fishing with dogs
Recent Posts
feeders on bank--any hog problems?
by esshup - 05/04/24 11:52 PM
When will I see schools of threadfin?
by esshup - 05/04/24 11:49 PM
Maximum Slope For Dam Safety
by KiwiGuy - 05/04/24 11:49 PM
My First
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 11:48 PM
Little update and a question on harvesting
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 11:36 PM
What made this noise?
by shooterlurespond - 05/04/24 07:58 PM
RENOVATION TO A POND FILLING IT WITH CONCRETE
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 02:10 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 01:34 PM
Need Pond Renovation Advice
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 01:19 PM
Drain it to clear it?
by Boondoggle - 05/04/24 10:47 AM
Using Advanced Search Function
by FishinRod - 05/04/24 09:52 AM
Swimming Pond Center Fun Ideas
by Theo Gallus - 05/04/24 08:20 AM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5