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I shoot them on sight, but I live rural and they love the taste of dog! One dog is never safe around coyotes. They will circle and attack from behind. I lost a Belgium shepherd last year and nearly lost my boxer 15+ years ago. That dude was tough, but still lost part of his hind end. I always have at least 2 or 3 dogs, but if I get one that is a solo roamer....... I had them circle one dog 20 yards outside my front door, but I was at home. Can't blame them for doing what they do, but I shoot all I can around my place. Ya Brian the really smart bunch will play with the dog. Kinda like hide and seek a bit and keep the dog moving away from the roads and houses. Once away the bunch will turn on the dog and eat them. They will eat the wild cats too. A friend in So. Cal. (Fallbrook, Ca) had his 80# female Pit Bull killed by yotes.
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Bocomo,
It's a strange country we find ourselves in. Keeping a working dog outside is cruelty to animals. Wow! Almost as bad as keeping pets. There's no limit to where some folks will go, and they're slowly dragging the whole country with them. I wonder how long it will be before it's not only the guard dogs that have to be kept inside, but also the livestock they guard?
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Historically this is exactly where a great post strays into politically motivated discord: Please guys, don't let it go there - I have full confidence we can keep this enjoyable and informative.
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Historically this is exactly where a great post strays into politically motivated discord: Please guys, don't let it go there - I have full confidence we can keep this enjoyable and informative. A very good point, TJ, as always. But if Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Sanders, or Clinton appear to endorse green sunfish, HBG, or "enhanced bream" in any way, shape, or form, the gloves are coming off again.
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"A hybrid bluegill in every pond, and an RTV in every shed"
There's a platform I can get behind......
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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As long as someone else pays fer it..... Lol
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OK TJ, trying to keep this forum within the required guidelines I must agree that even mentioning political candidates names should be admonished. However to simplify things I officially throw my hat in the ring. There are 13602 registered members and that could provide a pretty good start. What's a better slogan? A good aeration system in every pond...or Some pot for every chicken.
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Do nature a favor, spay/neuter your pets and any weird friends or relatives.
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More recently, we've swapped out the llama for an Anatolian. It would mean less hassle for us to take care of, but some of our new neighbors call the city animal cruelty hotline on the regular to say that somehow it's a crime to keep a working dog outside any more. The inspector always leaves shaking his head but we still have to suffer his visit.
Oh my gosh. Someone turned you in for having a dog outside in the cold? You must be just a bit too close to the university of Missouri. I'm a Mizzou grad, so I can make fun of them. Your dog needs a safe zone..
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9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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I am not really set on ether side.....but I do whole hardheartedly believe that our kids now a days do need to get out into the bush and show them sign from a deer or bear, racoon, wild turkeys. Kids are so sheltered with all their store bought food that is perfectly prepped. Their internet and video games.... I find it hard to see how they can have an opinion on one way or the other without putting some miles on their boots.
The spring flowers are in perfect bloom right now and the bush is drying out. Get the kids out there every day and learn something hands on. You might see something you will never forget.
Cheers Don.
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More recently, we've swapped out the llama for an Anatolian. It would mean less hassle for us to take care of, but some of our new neighbors call the city animal cruelty hotline on the regular to say that somehow it's a crime to keep a working dog outside any more. The inspector always leaves shaking his head but we still have to suffer his visit.
Oh my gosh. Someone turned you in for having a dog outside in the cold? You must be just a bit too close to the university of Missouri. I'm a Mizzou grad, so I can make fun of them. Your dog needs a safe zone.. They sure did. We haven't moved, but yes, we are too close to Columbia now. The town has grown! I think they're going to annex all the way up to catty-corner from our place. That's the way of the world, it seems. I really don't mind too much. The fishing is still good at our place, thanks to Pond Boss!
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Glad your fishin is good! We are alumni, and my daughter is a J School grad. Love it, and Columbia. Nothing but great memories. Back on topic, I've not seen that many coyotes at our place. Almost every morning in a deer stand I'll see one, but just one. Lots of droppings around the pond though. I have more fox up there than anything. There's a grey and red female that had a litter of pups last spring in a big brush pile behind the house. I suspect they might be hurting the quail and rabbit populations a bit, but mostly keep the mice numbers down. I did find a deer leg on the dam last year. I suspected the local dog pack. We don't have an over abundance of deer in our area. Too many hunters. Same with turkeys.
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep. RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these. I think that's about all I should put in my little pond. Otter attack in 2023
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Tony, You DO NOT want to pelletize Squirrels, It is way to messy. Mice on the other hand are doable. And with their high protein content, you might just be on to something. Please update us on your efforts. I figure with your hydraulic experience now, you might have a workable plan. It should be interesting to see what you come up with Totally agree in that once enough psi is applied, you can durn near extrude anything. But if we're talking feeding "on the hoof", I don't think mice will cut it up here as these are Hoosier HBG sfter all. Mice would probably work fine for lesser lepomids, such as those found in more southerly latitudes like say, the greater Nashville area, but I'm thinking squirrels or perhaps groundhogs would be more applicable for my enhanced bream.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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HoosierMax 3000, (a squirrel sized pellet) The right food for Northern HBG, Interesting. Hope you patented it. I just wonder how big of a Texas Hunter you will need to throw them?
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The one thing is the one thing A dry fly catches no fish Try not to be THAT 10%
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I feed by hand, but I do acknowledge the problems that hurling squirrel sized pellets while maintaining the required safety distance from ravenous, super-sized Hoosier HBG, presents. Fortunately, I'm working out a deal as we speak.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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I understand that he is making himself available for other opportunities.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Haven't seen this one in person yet but really interesting coloring. This camera is on the backside of my dam where the overflow comes out.
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Looks like maybe a yote cross domestic dog to me.
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That is why I put a blaze orange collar on my 6-month-old grey shepherd.
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We have seen when they start to get blacks in their coat and get taller they are mating with dogs. It happens but its not really common. The body size and size of their snout.
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It definitely is quite dog looking but the picture frames right before had two "Regular" looking Coyotes. I've also got it on other cameras running with the same.
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Some dogs will run and play with coyotes. Such dogs are often used by coyote hunters. This could be a coy-dog, dog, or coyote. Its hard to tell from that angle.
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Ive watched a male dog follow a male female pair of yotes last year. You could tell the fm yote was in heat. The m yote would turn and fight and the fm would keep moving on at a walk trot. The dog was a big blk lab mix the neighbors dog tough farm dog. This went on for a good while I watched with binoculars from the road.The males fought hard 3 or 4 times as they followed the fm. They went over a hill and I never saw them again. I do know the dog is still alive
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I have never had a coyote challenge any of my adult German Shepherds over the last 30+ years (when caught they did not survive). Some breeds are bred for protection, some for retrieving birds. Not that there are not exceptions. Some labs are tough.
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