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#348531 08/23/13 05:39 PM
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Hi, I'm Dan and just joined. I built a man cave on 10 acres and it is time to get my 1 acre pond in good shape. It has been neglected for years. I have most the trees cut off the damn, it leaks some. I got some grass eating carp and have been adding crappie, bass and catfish I catch on the local lake to the pond. I mainly want to get the pond into good shape with some fish so my grand kids can catch some fish.
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Healthy fish are active and lots of fun to catch. One recommendation that I could make is to add some form of an aeration system. Implementing an oxygen producing devise to your pond will greatly help out your trophy game fish population.


Miles upon miles of aeration line installed, 2500 plus pond treatments performed annually.... and I'm just getting started.
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Welcome Grandpa Dan

What was the fishing like before you started adding fish? In other words what kind of fish were and are in there?


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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Sounds like someone is trying to sell you an aeration system there, Dan. There is a lot of analysis needed before you make that expensive, and perhaps unneeded step. Read these posts carefully.

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Welcome Dan,

Sounds like your off to a start? All be it may not be the best direction but it's a start. Some experts will be along soon to fill you in some more and maybe get your started down the right path hold tight! Dan,Dan the Crappie man! smile

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The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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Ok well maybe I was wrong and the experts missed this post. So I will try my best on this one and get you started in the right direction.

1. In a 1 acre pond you really should only have 1 primary predator fish. IE: LMB, or Catfish, or SMB but NOT crappie! Most folks will tell you that Crappie just flat reproduce waaaaaay to fast and compete for same forage as your Bass do and you will end up with a bunch of stunted Bass and Crappie.

2. Although its done from time to time, The transfer of fish from one body of water to a pond can be bad if you are not careful. Remember the fish need to grow with the pond. Plus said fish from lake could have a number of issues wrong with them. IE: High mercury / some sort of virus/ or parasite and then you transfer that fish to your pond and now your pond has it too! So be careful about that.

Plus you need to be careful about how big these LMB are that you are transferring. Remember it takes about 10 pounds of feeder fish for a LMB to gain 1 pound so if you tranfer any larger LMB they will need a LOT of food to maintain their current weight. Plus you add the fact that you have catfish and crappie in there eating your food too and your bass will suffer big time and get large heads and skinny bodies!!!

I have also read that most LMB that are larger say 3 to 4 pounds and up will not do very well when transferred from a lake that they have been in for quite some time. They get to accustomed to their enviornment and when transferred lots of times they don't make it.

Also remember there is no hurry up fix for a pond when it comes to longer term goals of pond management.

I too bought 10 acreas 4 years ago with a 1 acre pond. And I am now just starting to see the benifits of my pond and how it should be working. That only happens though time and good folks on this site guiding you in the right direction as to what to do and what not to do. Read all you can on this site there is a TON of how to stuff out here on management of your pond and the do's and dont's of how it should be done!

Good Luck

RC


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!
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RC is right ! Best way to get a fast pond for kids fishing (absent some extraordinary methods)in your location is stock FH and BG and use feeders then follow with a corrector predator.
















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I would add RES BG and GSH for food for the bass and crappie. Then pellet feed the BG and Channel cat

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Originally Posted By: KSBASS
I would add RES BG and GSH for food for the bass and crappie. Then pellet feed the BG and Channel cat


KSBASS, read on here about Crappie in smaller ponds and just be aware of the problems that they cause. Just want you to be aware of the management issues with them, and would perfer you to be fully aware what they are before you stock them vs. you posting in 3-4 years about having to kill your pond and start over.


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3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
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Do you know if the pond has bluegill (pure strain), hybrid bluegill, or green sunfish? Learn what relative weight of a fish is and how to calculate it. Measure, record data, and monitor your fish. By adding crappie you will see changes in your fishery. Know what those changes are and then make the corrective adjustments so the fishery thrives instead of dies.

Standard weight charts
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=160456#Post160456

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=112084

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=339204

Managing an existing pond - example:
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=334484

Relative and Standard Weight for LM Bass
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=292864

Some “Heavy” or advanced reading about balance of fish, their sizes and weights.
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=23612&page=1


Gripper Scales
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.ph...true#Post341171

Homework reading about crappie in ponds. Risky business, but it can succeed with intense management. Long term success is the big problem.
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92447#Post92447

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