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Pumkinseed? Bluegill or PS/BG cross?
Hey everyone. I stocked the pond back in 2008 with bluegills and pumpkinseeds and didn't put anything in the pond that didn't look like one or the other! All fish were fin clipped and this is looking like possibly the offspring from the first year. What do you think it is? I thought about possibly a green sunfish but it just doesn't have the total look of one. Let me know...Thanks..Ryan [IMG] http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g30/RyanBambach/PumkinSeed_zpsf379caf6.jpg[/IMG]
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If that's all you put in the pond, then I'd say it was a PS/BG cross.
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Looks like a male bluegill in spawn color
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Hard to say for sure, I don't believe it is a pure species. Almost has the look of some redbreast sunfish genetics to it, but is most likely just a PSxBG cross.
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It has the turquoise streaks on the gill plates that PS/RES/GSF have but not the yellow margins on the fins that a BG/GSF cross has. So, that's out of the picture. RES normally have a red dot on the eartab on the ear, but so do PS. But no RES were stocked. That's why I'm leaning towards a BG/PS cross. BUT, if there is one Redbreast in the pond, then I retract my tentative I.D.   CJ brings up a good point, and I agree, definately not a purebred.
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No way to know from the pic alone. It could be a BG with genetic or morphological trait such that the blue jaw color scales are spread out. Could be a PS X BG. I see no indication that it is other than a BG except the jaw markings. PS X BG are a common cross up north.
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Last edited by ewest; 07/10/13 09:30 PM.
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That guy actually died from a hook in the gullet and had been dead for about 10 minutes and had actually lost alot of color already. When I cought him he was as black as a the darket BG's in the pond and still had the dark yellow/orange looking bottom typical of all the other BG's in my pond. It wasn't until he was dead that the color started changing and I realized he had the markings of a PS in the mouth and gill plate area.
To my knowledge I only have PS in the pond as RES don't like the cold this far north. I originally stocked quite a few more PS than the BG's but the PS numbers have dropped in the last few years (I have had a heavy presence of Blue Herrons) which I have been able to keep under control but the PS's like to stick close to shore and make easy prey for the long legged fish killer!
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