Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Kendal, BoomerTC35D, cjschuhmann, Teroni, EGS
18,531 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics41,015
Posts558,535
Members18,532
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,606
ewest 21,513
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,160
Who's Online Now
5 members (Bill Cody, JoshMI, FishinRod, Bigtrh24, KenHorton), 933 guests, and 265 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#270308 09/17/11 11:51 AM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
I have been receiving Pond Boss for a couple years and really like the magazine. I have 1 pond on my property that I am trying to keep the Otters from eating my fish. Mostly bass and bluegills. The pond has little structure for the fish to hide. I was told by a friend that I could construct PVC cages filled with brush to help. Before I do this I wanted to check with some of you experts out there. The pond is about 1 acre and 7' deep...

montello #270320 09/17/11 06:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
I haven't come across anything effective except firearms. .22LR or .17 HMR. If noise is an issue, I recommend .22 CB short. All guns do not shoot it, however, so be cautious.

Last edited by Sniper; 09/17/11 06:07 PM.
Sniper #270322 09/17/11 07:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Even if you don't have electricity out there, there are solar electric cattle fences. Someone on here had an otter problem, and that solved it. I don't see how it'd work if you had a stream connected to your pond tho.....

Wait until they are in season, then trap them. Fur prices are on the upswing.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
esshup #270335 09/18/11 08:01 AM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
Trapping may work, but the traps are tricky to set. You don't want a crushed hand or arm in the process. Be careful.

Sniper #270336 09/18/11 08:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
In the beginning, yes, they are a bit tricky. But, once you get a finger pinched once or twice, you learn where you can and cannot put your digits. wink

The real tricky part is figuring out where the animal is going to travel, and exactly where they will place their foot. That's where the expertise comes in!


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
esshup #270371 09/18/11 08:40 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
Thanks everyone, looks like I need to get rid of the otters. I do have a trapper that works my property and ponds every fall. Once the otters are gone should I put in the PVC boxes with brush inside or just make some brush piles to sink them when the ice melts next spring? This particular pond is in very close proximity to a river that runs the border of my land.

montello #270373 09/18/11 08:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
Originally Posted By: montello
This particular pond is in very close proximity to a river that runs the border of my land.

Otters favorite movie quote "I'LL BE BACK" grin
Trapping and shooting can help but an electric fence is on guard 24-7, let the electric 2 step begin.



Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
Do you fence the entire pond?

Sniper #270422 09/19/11 07:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
If your pond isn't too large it's best to fully fence it, mine is an acre.
Here's the link to a discussion back in August.
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.ph...true#Post267103



Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
M
OP Offline
M
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
Thanks again everyone, I guess I'll get the 22 sighted in and look into fencing...

montello #270577 09/21/11 05:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
The otters are creatures of habit. They will come every day at roughly the same time. Generally early a.m. and mid afternoon. They stick their heads out to look at you. You have about five seconds to cap them. Shoot at the head at the water line.

Sniper #270581 09/21/11 07:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
Don't forget to invest in a Starlight scope and lots of Nodose so you can get the otters with insomnia. grin



Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
Starlights are old school.

Sniper #270622 09/22/11 10:22 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 344
Offline
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 344
Originally Posted By: Sniper
I haven't come across anything effective except firearms.


I agree.
Such structures as mentioned above won't be useful. They may help a bit but as otter is a very skilful swimmer, it will eat your fish anyway. So you have to choose who's going to die - your fish or otters. I suppose this one isn't hard question to answer smile
Trapping may help a bit but it requires skills. An otter isn't a beaver...

Sniper #270629 09/22/11 11:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
Originally Posted By: Sniper
Starlights are old school.

Hey, I'm old school, but like the Starlights I used in Nam I still work. laugh

Nothing is 100% ( death, taxes& GSF excluded) but with an electric fence providing 24/7 protection you can practice your marksmanship on otters outside the fence although I believe most Otters learn quick after getting a few jolts and head for easier pastures.



Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,712
Likes: 3
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,712
Likes: 3
Originally Posted By: adirondack pond
Originally Posted By: Sniper
Starlights are old school.

Hey, I'm old school, but like the Starlights I used in Nam I still work. laugh


I'm just a crotchety old Navy greybeard. Just a few of the Starlights, that I knew of, were hand-built and delivered.

Were you one of the crazies at Au Cuong?

Regards,
Ken


Subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine

Peculiar Friends are Better than No Friends at All!
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
Ken I don't know when the army started using them but they were common when I was there in 69. I remember 3 models, 2 small handheld types and 1 large model that was mounted on a tripod, truck or helicopter.
Those scopes saved some butts at Dau Tieng in Feb. 1969.



Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
S
Fingerling
Offline
Fingerling
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 529
They were state of the art then and so were slide rules. Today's optics deployed to SF in Afghan killzones make snipers truly one shot, one killers.

Last edited by Sniper; 09/23/11 09:03 AM.
Sniper #270657 09/23/11 09:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
It still has a LOT to do with the guy behind the trigger tho. The one thing that the electronics can't do is read the wind between the shooter and the target. That's up to the computer between the ears.

Even my long range rifle, which has a flatter trajectory and has a much better bc than their bullets, if zeroe'd at 100 yds drops 59 feet at one mile and the bullet drift in a 5 mph full value crosswind is 5 feet.

If they use a .338 Lapua, w/ a 300g Sierra Matchking bullet, (2525 fps mv) their bullet drop/drift at a mile with the same zero is 130 feet and almost 9 feet of drift. (data collected with Load From a Disc software)


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
esshup #270664 09/23/11 09:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,615
Likes: 5
J
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
J
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,615
Likes: 5
Originally Posted By: adirondack pond

Nothing is 100% ( death, taxes& GSF excluded) ...

laugh laugh laugh


Originally Posted By: Sniper
They were state of the art then and so were slide rules.

I don't own any sniper scopes but I do own several slide rules. They are fun and exciting (well at least if you are a bean counter).


JHAP
~~~~~~~~~~

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."
...Hedley Lamarr (that's Hedley not Hedy)
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135
A
Ambassador
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Lunker
A
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,135


And Carlos Hathcock didn't even have a slide rule. grin



Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,615
Likes: 5
J
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
J
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,615
Likes: 5
One of my most prized possessions is a slide rule that was carried by my father for years. Many a road in California was engineered using his trusty slide rule.


JHAP
~~~~~~~~~~

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."
...Hedley Lamarr (that's Hedley not Hedy)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,763
Likes: 34
J
Offline
J
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,763
Likes: 34
Now we have a calculator that is a mini computer for Engineering school. The Ti-89, it is scary to just look at.

jludwig #270706 09/24/11 12:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 16,069
Likes: 280
D
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 16,069
Likes: 280
I have a TI Business Calculator that can calculate the net worth of a company, country or continent.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP

Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Blazzzy, jkrueger
Recent Posts
Trapping the Crays
by Augie - 05/17/24 03:46 PM
Spotfin Shiners - Habitat, Cover and Structure
by canyoncreek - 05/17/24 11:57 AM
recommendations for northern YP/SMB/BT pond
by H20fwler - 05/17/24 10:51 AM
Bird Deter for patio furniture....
by Energymble - 05/17/24 04:46 AM
BG sex?
by Bill Cody - 05/16/24 08:50 PM
Spawn Identification
by Fishingadventure - 05/16/24 05:03 PM
Pest Control around Pond
by Bennettrand - 05/16/24 02:56 PM
Happy Birthday Bob-O
by Pat Williamson - 05/16/24 07:53 AM
Optimal vs. Purina
by gehajake - 05/16/24 07:26 AM
Repairing Dam with Culvert?
by jludwig - 05/15/24 12:21 PM
Building a sprayer for 10 acre farm pond
by Black Creek WW - 05/15/24 08:54 AM
Tilapia with Winterkill
by Fishingadventure - 05/14/24 06:34 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5