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hey all! brand new to the site, and i figured it was a good spot to answer a few questions. ive built a few smaller garden ponds and having just bought a home with a yard big enough, im looking to build one for myself. one catch, (no pun intended) i want to stock a few trout. Ive got a good idea for temp control. I run geotechnical drill rigs for a living and want to use a geothermal loop to keep it cool in the summer. I am planing on drilling a 50 foot hole 10 inces in diameter at the bottom end of the pond, casing it with 10" pvc pipe to circulate the water through. basically, i would have a pond with a REALLY deep spot.. i just need to move the water.. (i think) also, i would need a good way to join the pond liner to the pipe. im not sure of the best way to do this in a leak free manner. other than that, i suppose simply having a balanced environment, Ph, water circulation, algae and or weed control and keeping it cool enough, i should be ok? right? anyways thats what im thinkin about doing.. any advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks ahead of time!
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Mike, welcome to the show.
This is a new one to me so you might be wise to ignore what I say. My assumptions might be pretty flawed.
First, I assume that the pond size would not necessitate the "well" as the water source. Thus, you could plug or cap the deep end and just use it as a REALLY deep spot. Along with the loop, drop a submersible pump down and keep the water circulating, maybe on a periodic basis so the cooler bottom water could always be coming to the surface. Or maybe the loop or pump wouldn't both be needed. I don't know. A plastic adhesive joining the the casing to the liner should make it water tight.
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Maybe drop a small diffuser down there and use the upwelling bubbles to raise the cooler water and aerate the water at the same time?
Welcome to the forum! This is a new one on me, and it'll be interesting to see the suggestions.
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Would there not be a risk of a major water drain source at the bottom of the PVC pipe? If you're drilling that far down, I presume it's to get to a water source, which means in addition to having an inlet, you're going to have an outlet at some point. I may be wrong in my assumption, though, that the pipe will be "open" at the bottom, but I don't know that I understand why else you'd have that deep of a hole other than as a source for water. If so, again, how well the liner is matched to the pipe may not make a difference as the pipe wouldn't be sealed and you'd have a leak source, I would think. I don't know jack about that sort of thing, though, so my ramblings may be worthless.
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The entire thing would be a closed system. The only reason i need it to be that deep, is to give the water time enough to cool before being pumped back into the pond. I should clarify, the pond will be small, maybe 12' by 10' give or take.. being a closed system, i would need a good seal at the pipe, otherwise i would have a great big bathtub drain. i wouldnt mind getting the pipe into or past ground water, i believe it would help dissipate the warmer water being pumped to the botttom.. essentially it would be somewhat of an "artificial spring" welling up into the pond..
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12' by 10' is pretty small for more than a couple of trout.
Ponds in TX, lake place in WI, me in CA
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maybe 6-8 depending on how big they get.. i wont be afraid to pull a couple out if they start out growing the pond though.. much better table fare than koi...
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