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I'm thinking a more visible fence, with a small locked gate, and signs. Then if they bounce over all that, rain hellfire down on them. I think that's fair.

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Best to be well insured, with signs placed as needed, having the Sheriff's Dept. explain criminal tresspass to those found trespassing (be armed in an attempt to avoid a fight when you remove the ATV key to keep the trespasser there until the deputy arrives) place game cameras at strategic points, and prosecute repeat offenders. Some counties have "if you don't own it, stay off it" laws, but trespassers might still be able to recover damages if injured on your property by nail boards or other booby traps. And although many of us think about taking them out, who really wants to walk up to the body of a child or adult he had just shot?

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 Originally Posted By: Dudley Landry
And although many of us think about taking them out, who really wants to walk up to the body of a child or adult he had just shot?


I don't think I'm capable of that, no matter how ticked I may get. Nothing is worth that in my opinion.

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 Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
I started out 25+ years ago with the good neighbor attitude. Then I realized that a predator/prey relationship had been established and I still put up with it for awhile. Then I got chapped and became a jerk. I found that people would push until I started pushing back.

Now, my neighbors have a 100% understanding that we both know where my property lines are.

I much prefer the current arrangement. It helps me sleep nights.
I have to agree with DD1 I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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I used to be one of those dirtbike riders(long time ago)I rode all through the neighbors pastures. Never broke or tore up anything(not counting me or my bike). Heck, the owner was never around to meet or ask. All we knew was, he was some rich bigshot from Dallas, that only came down periodically. But we were always taught not to tear up other people's property. We were also smart enough to know that if we did start tearing things up (fences, barns, etc) We WOULD get to meet him(and the local officials). So ride was all we did. But nowadays these kids are not taught the same (from my perspective). Good luck to you however you handle this, just make sure you've thought your action through.

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Yeah, I get tired of the entitlement issues these young people have nowadays too. That's why I've made it a point to get my kid involved in charities and volunteer work as much as possible. Make sure he realizes the world is bigger than he is. As kids we were always told the neighboring farmer would shoot trespassers. Whether that was true or not, we didn't want to find out.

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 Originally Posted By: Dudley Landry
Best to be well insured, with signs placed as needed, having the Sheriff's Dept. explain criminal tresspass to those found trespassing (be armed in an attempt to avoid a fight when you remove the ATV key to keep the trespasser there until the deputy arrives) place game cameras at strategic points, and prosecute repeat offenders. Some counties have "if you don't own it, stay off it" laws, but trespassers might still be able to recover damages if injured on your property by nail boards or other booby traps. And although many of us think about taking them out, who really wants to walk up to the body of a child or adult he had just shot?


Excellent advice Dudley as usual. With most kids a visit or call from the sheriff (or sheriff to the parents if that doesn’t work) is all it takes. However you have to watch for the bad apple that will return and set fire to your place.

I want to be sure you guys understand my rule. I don't give a - - - - about the trespasser - I do care about you. You can run off fifty of them with no problem but 51 may kill you. Don't give him the chance. Have the better position on him and be sure he knows it. That will stop any aggressive action by him. Peace through strength. If you don't want to follow that rule then for goodness sake don't confront them. Call for help , have the evidence and let the pros who are paid for that do their job. Taking their pic helps reduce the risks as well.

"who really wants to walk up to the body of a child or adult he had just shot" - no one and likewise your family does not want to walk up on your dead carcass. So only confront from a position of obvious strength or not at all. Introduce yourself ask their name and if you can help them. Let them explain. Don't yell or scream or threaten. After they explain just tell them to leave and to not come back if that is to be your position. Better yet call the pros to do the job.

BTW I am not talking about neighbors like in BM's situation. Angry neighbors are much more dangerous.



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 Originally Posted By: ewest
dead carcass


Is there any other kind?



Sorry, Eric, I couldn't resist. Very good points you made.

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 Originally Posted By: CJBS2003
Well placed boards with nails in them have caused trespassing ATV riders and dirt bikers to think twice about trespassing again after ending up with expensive flats. The plan can backfire though...


I would be likely to be the first person to run over my own homemade spike strips.... probably just minutes after placing them. hehe


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Maybe you could adapt a warning for a no trespass sign that is akin to the one on the shop:

"This shop is protected by shotgun three nights a week, you decide which ones."


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 Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
I started out 25+ years ago with the good neighbor attitude. Then I realized that a predator/prey relationship had been established and I still put up with it for awhile. Then I got chapped and became a jerk. I found that people would push until I started pushing back.

Now, my neighbors have a 100% understanding that we both know where my property lines are.

I much prefer the current arrangement. It helps me sleep nights.


Dave...a jerk? Guess I'd have to don my Sombrero and take a stroll across his place before I'd believe that!

I know my comments ooze with naivety - I'll probably come unglued the first time I come across someone at the place...grab a cinder block and have some new SMB structure! ;\)


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 Originally Posted By: Weissguy
 Originally Posted By: CJBS2003
Well placed boards with nails in them have caused trespassing ATV riders and dirt bikers to think twice about trespassing again after ending up with expensive flats. The plan can backfire though...


I would be likely to be the first person to run over my own homemade spike strips.... probably just minutes after placing them. hehe


WG - we've gotta be related...took the words right out of my mouth.


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I think this is a great solution...and heck in the end you have a new micro pond. Click Link below.

Bike Trail Hole

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 Originally Posted By: Cary Martin
I think this is a great solution...and heck in the end you have a new micro pond. Click Link below.

Bike Trail Hole


Oh man, that's hilarious. I could strategically place them all around the perimeter. Like land mines.

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regarding the adjoining abandoned RR, they can be bought....

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sgt911:

It sounds like you need to dig another pond and put all the spoils around the perimiter of their property. Oops, I mean your property.


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What do they do Sgt911, just trespass, or do they hunt and fish your property too?

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 Originally Posted By: Sgt911
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What do they do Sgt911, just trespass, or do they hunt and fish your property too?


Trespass, fish, smoke weed, shoot at all hours of the day/night, work on the five junk cars in the backyard...It hasn't been as bad lately because my dad stays up there most of the time, but last Sunday they wore out a AK47..they know very well how I feel and I at least got them to build a small berm...The guy is 55 and never worked...I spoke to his dad a few years ago, he is a very wealthy man who lives here in Houston, he said his son could stay there as long as he wanted...I explained what was going on and he said he would take care of it..That help a little..they used to own most of the land around there and the guy apparently has a hard time realizing he has been confined to that one small space. If they ever do sell, its going to cost me....I'm heading up there after I type this....CYA!


That sucks. Have you ever gotten the cops involved?

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 Originally Posted By: Omaha
That sucks. Have you ever gotten the cops involved?


I was wondering that. I'm curious what they'd say (the cops) if they were told that shots were fired in your direction.


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Couldn't pass this one up either. When I saw it I had to post it.




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Don't do the nail boards.

I wanted to do the same thing, or something like it, but if someone gets hurt or killed, not only will you be liable, you might not be at peace with yourself for the rest of your life.


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 Originally Posted By: adirondack pond
Omaha, trespassing is a real problem in this country cause of the corrupted legal system, even with precautions and if your in the right, they can still drag you into court and cost you big bucks.

I like this no trespassing sign.
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