What did you do at your pond today?

Posted by: canyoncreek

What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 12:40 PM

There are other online forums that have a great 'sticky' thread that stays at the top of the list all the time. They usually have one that allows everyone to post under the heading of 'What did you do to your 'X' or with your 'X' (classic car, John Deere, pickup truck) today?' That allows for random posts, pictures, thoughts to go in one area without creating new threads all the time.

If such a thread exists on PondBoss then I'm happy to move this one or remove it. Is there a way to create a sticky thread that stays near the top?

As I was trucking out loads of leaves from the pond I thought we need a place to post random pictures of what maintenance tasks, projects, or other random things people do at the pond.

As I was throwing the weighted landscape rake in and dragging it back out and trying to get at least some of the many oak and maple leaves that fall into the pond, I was contemplating whether this work was worth it. Some nice neighbors going by on their walk were laughing at me and said it was far easier to simply cut down the trees that overhang the pond. It gave me food for thought at least... But I'm sure many leaves that end up in the pond are from trees that are deeper in the woods and not only those on the immediate boundary of the pond.

It was heavy/hot work, but hopefully worth it to remove a couple hundred pounds of organic stuff.

I raked on tuesday, let the long row of leaves air out, then raked into piles and went around with garden tractor and utility trailer and forked them into the trailer.

As I dragged in the leaves I saw some salamanders, a few tadpoles, baby dragonflies, even managed to capture one goldfish with the rake. Unfortunately also raked out hundreds of chinese snails again.





Despite sealing the pond bottom, we have had dry conditions and hot weather the last 2 weeks. The pond is dropping from evaporation. I can start the well but hoping that rain will do the trick eventually.


While working around the trees on the edge I noted these vines that have leaves that look suspect for poison ivy. The dog charges through the woods chasing things and then brings the poison ivy oil to the kids on his fur. I'm not sure I can always tell poison ivy from other 3 leaved vines. I thought the 3 leafs of poison ivy didn't have the irregular or jagged outlines (like sassafras leaves to, see the top leaf in the first picture) or maybe not? Here are 2 examples.










Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 01:14 PM

That looks like P.I. to me. I don't usually pay much attention to it, since I am non reactive.

I fed the fish and watched the water recede. I have lost over 2-1/4 inches in three days. The soilfloc did not seem to help in the long run and the water loss has worsened since March. There is water coming up in the neighbor's field well behind my dam, but none at the toe of my dam. Might be a spring that was always there, or might be my pond. The field was an impenetrable thicket until he cleared it about three months ago, so water wasn't seen until after the clearing operation.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
There are other online forums that have a great 'sticky' thread that stays at the top of the list all the time. They usually have one that allows everyone to post under the heading of 'What did you do to your 'X' or with your 'X' (classic car, John Deere, pickup truck) today?' That allows for random posts, pictures, thoughts to go in one area without creating new threads all the time.

If such a thread exists on PondBoss then I'm happy to move this one or remove it. Is there a way to create a sticky thread that stays near the top?

As I was trucking out loads of leaves from the pond I thought we need a place to post random pictures of what maintenance tasks, projects, or other random things people do at the pond.

As I was throwing the weighted landscape rake in and dragging it back out and trying to get at least some of the many oak and maple leaves that fall into the pond, I was contemplating whether this work was worth it. Some nice neighbors going by on their walk were laughing at me and said it was far easier to simply cut down the trees that overhang the pond. It gave me food for thought at least... But I'm sure many leaves that end up in the pond are from trees that are deeper in the woods and not only those on the immediate boundary of the pond.

It was heavy/hot work, but hopefully worth it to remove a couple hundred pounds of organic stuff.

I raked on tuesday, let the long row of leaves air out, then raked into piles and went around with garden tractor and utility trailer and forked them into the trailer.

As I dragged in the leaves I saw some salamanders, a few tadpoles, baby dragonflies, even managed to capture one goldfish with the rake. Unfortunately also raked out hundreds of chinese snails again.





Despite sealing the pond bottom, we have had dry conditions and hot weather the last 2 weeks. The pond is dropping from evaporation. I can start the well but hoping that rain will do the trick eventually.


While working around the trees on the edge I noted these vines that have leaves that look suspect for poison ivy. The dog charges through the woods chasing things and then brings the poison ivy oil to the kids on his fur. I'm not sure I can always tell poison ivy from other 3 leaved vines. I thought the 3 leafs of poison ivy didn't have the irregular or jagged outlines (like sassafras leaves to, see the top leaf in the first picture) or maybe not? Here are 2 examples.












CC,
Looks like poison ivy to me...it never used to bother me until a few years ago, now I can't get close to it without a reaction. Cut it loose, bundle it, and haul it off. Wear long sleeves and gloves. Whatever you do, don't burn it. You may inhale some fine particulate....then, you've really got problems. Good luck!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 05:12 PM

CC, re the snails, do you have RES in your lake? I understand that there are RES adapted to Michigan. Perhaps they might help.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 07:12 PM

Double C, very good thread. I'm sure lots of folks will contribute with positive things. My contribution will probably not be so interesting but here it is. My water temp is at about 72, quite a bit lower than body temp. I was fishin and got snagged on a pallet at about 3' and had ta wade in to unhook. When the water level got to navel depth ol body instinct said "OK, let go" and therefore I increased the water temp and salinity level by very few ppm. So... that's what I did in/to my pond.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 07:31 PM

Bob-O, rolling on the ground over here. Great update smile

Anthropic, I think I have RES (at least I stocked them twice but have never seen, trapped, or netted one). They may spawn soon then I'll know. I had hundreds of tiny NATIVE snails that disappeared after I stocked RES so I think I have them.

The chinese INVASIVE snails (Chinese Mystery Snails) came from the neighbors aquarium which he transferred to a bucket when he moved out of his house and bucket stocked an aquarium full of fish, snails and other unknown invaders in my pond. The snails are HUGE and nothing can eat them. Perhaps the RES can eat their young?



Chinese Mystery snails

Or have a snail harvest contest!!

504 pounds of snails!!
Posted by: Bill Cody

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 10:02 PM

That is poison ivy and very healthy plants.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
That is poison ivy and very healthy plants.


+1 please harvest some and send my X a bouquet! grin
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob-O
Double C, very good thread. I'm sure lots of folks will contribute with positive things. My contribution will probably not be so interesting but here it is. My water temp is at about 72, quite a bit lower than body temp. I was fishin and got snagged on a pallet at about 3' and had ta wade in to unhook. When the water level got to navel depth ol body instinct said "OK, let go" and therefore I increased the water temp and salinity level by very few ppm. So... that's what I did in/to my pond.


Bob,

Dangit man! Didn't you bring one of yer Blue Hairs back with you to clear hook snags!
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
That is poison ivy and very healthy plants.

+1 please harvest some and send my X a bouquet! grin


That's just too darn funny!

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/02/16 10:56 PM

I'm with John F. I don't pay any attention to it because I'm not bothered by it.

So CC, when is the escargot cookoff??
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 07:36 AM

Got the crusher run pad laid out, leveled and tamped for the pond shed that's coming next week. Planting another twenty chestnut seedlings later, brings this years total to 60... About halfway done planting this years crop. Got a little rain yesterday, seed around the lower ponds and upper orchard are looking great... And it saved me four hours of watering parched ground. Life is good.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 07:48 AM

I have been running 1.5" air line (rolled tubing). I can say that no matter how I try to un-roll a 500' spool of tubing, it will tie into knots. Not just one knot but several knots. It is a PITA to lay 500' sections of 1.5" tubing !!! And I still have another one and a half spools to unroll and lay out.

Tracy
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 08:31 AM

Got the burlap on our floating island trying to round up some plants to plant on it and launch it. Did a little fishing and caught my first 6" common shiner on a small crayfish. First time for every thing I guess. Did catch some perch to pass the time sitting on the log.

Watched the dog chase the bull frogs around the edge of the pond and checked the water temp that is knocking on 73. Time to turn the falls and aeration back to running at night.

Cheers Don.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 08:37 AM

Since I can't reliably eye ball the poison ivy and know what is poison ivy and what is not, my thought was, someone can make a fortune if they could spray some otherwise nontoxic substance on the leaves and if they change color or some how make a change that is visible that other vines do not then we would have a good solution. This way folks could go to the wooded patch around their yards and spray this solution on the whole thing and the poison ivy would jump out at them. I don't know if this is even possible, but I thought if I can find some good healthy easy to identify samples it will give me a mini-laboratory to try various products one per leaf.

I was thinking starting things everyone has in the cupboard like dish soap, dishwasher detergent, laundry soap, then move on to vinegar, weak baking soda solution, rubbing alcohol, bleach, acetone, one of the many cans of cleaners in my wife's cupboard, etc.

The key to keeping ahead of poison ivy is preventing exposure and the problem with prevention is that it is very hard to pick out in a wooded area.

I've always thought if they could spray something on your skin that shows where the oil is (makes it change color) you might have a fighting chance to get it off in time.

I've read that the snails are eaten in asia, not so much taste, but a subsistence staple. I guess if someone wanted to buy the snails by the five gallon bucket for food that is fine with me. However, I'd say since they are invasive and like to make baby snails that it would be safer to destroy them.
Posted by: CW10

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 11:44 AM

Think of mittens. The outside leaves have thumbs pointing outward, while the middle leaf has a thumb on each side.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 01:38 PM

Spray broadleaf killer on the Poison Ivy, mixed as strong as the label allows. Grass then will take over the area.
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 01:56 PM

That to me looks like what we call poison oak. The leaf looks just like an oak leaf but it grows on a vine. Poison ivy or what we call poison ivy is a small short three leaf plant.

Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 02:04 PM

That's the problem Dono, if I google image search poison ivy I get hundreds of plants and all look different. Everyone posts what they think is poison ivy (or poison oak) and they all look so different. We need to find an objective way to identify, just like we struggle to find an objective, by sight features way to sex RES smile

I agree that my vines climbing up the tree look more like poison oak but it also looks like the stuff that when I clear it I get a horrible itchy rash!!
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 02:37 PM

Well I didn't do anything today but I made this train the other day. The birds love it and the flowers are going great!! It's pine so it may not last long but it was fun to do...

RC



Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 08:16 PM

That's neat
Posted by: basslover

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/16 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
That's the problem Dono, if I google image search poison ivy I get hundreds of plants and all look different. Everyone posts what they think is poison ivy (or poison oak) and they all look so different. We need to find an objective way to identify, just like we struggle to find an objective, by sight features way to sex RES smile

I agree that my vines climbing up the tree look more like poison oak but it also looks like the stuff that when I clear it I get a horrible itchy rash!!



Sure looks like poison IVY to me.

You know there are different types of poison ivy, yes? Eastern poison ivy is a vine and Western poison ivy is a shrub.

Poison oak is typically in the West and the Southeast. You being in Michigan may not have that much in your state.

Check those leaflets up close - if you find hair on both sides you have poison oak, else it's ivy.

Poison ivy and I go way back. I once pulled the hairy vines from our pines only to coil them up and BURN THEM. Yes, burn them. As I stood 10 feet away tending the brush fire. Internal poison ivy is a treat.

Didn't learn.

Fast forward many years and while in the bush I had an opportunity to SELECT a leaf to use for wiping. Of all the leaves in the area I managed to pick poison ivy. And the proceeded to wipe with it. Then days later entered the dermatologist yet again to confirm I had poison ivy "down there".

Now I easily recognize it, suit up, remove it, bag it, and toss it.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 07:02 AM

I spray poison ivy and oak with a product called Remedy. It kills woody stemmed plants.
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 10:48 AM

Some botanists think that Poison Ivy and Poison Oak are the same plant, but manifest differently in different conditions.
Either way it is very sensitive to Roundup, and due to getting very allergic to it the older I get, I nuke it from orbit (it is the only way to be sure) any time it shows up. What you have is Poison * and your best bet is to hit it with Roundup and then let it sit for a couple months for the poison to break down, then remove it or just let it rot off.

Lately I have just been feeding the perch (they may do a number on the snails by sucking out the innards) and swimming with my kiddo as well as pulling out cattails from where I don't want them. Snorkeling has been a wonder in the clear water, and the fish are getting used to my presence so I can watch them swim around me. All great stuff.

Except for the blobs of algae that keep pulling up debris from the bottom and floating it in small islands of barf. I have too much light on the bottom, though it seems to be helping to pull crud from the deep parts and floating it to the edges for decomposition. Maybe it will have an effect on muck accumulation reduction, especially when I accidentally ingest some while splashing with the kiddo.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 06:46 PM

Wife and I fished today for about an hour. Caught,weighed,and measured 35 cnbg anywhere from 4 1/2 inch to 8 1/2 inch and weighing over 1/2 pound on some. Average relative weight for those 35 fish was 111%. Worst was 89% on one fish. We're pleased still. Lot's of little 1 inch babies also.Caught all these fish in the rain.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 10:39 PM

Today was a red letter today for me!! Emphasis on RED!!

My in laws were in from out of state. Their young kids wanted to go fishing. I figured the perch would be up for it as they very aggressively will grab jigs, small hook and worm, or their favorite, green stubby steve pellets.

They did manage to catch the box spring and mattress triangular tent like contraption that I sunk for cover. I'm going to have to put some strings with floats on the 4 corners of that thing so we know where NOT to cast in the future.

Water continues to drop due to evaporation (I hope) and no rain.

I worked on my gold fish trap design. I'm putting a net across the shallow with one about 3' out from shore and the other end right on shore. The hope is that if I throw pellets between shore and the seine net that fish will learn they can't get to the pellets unless they do an end run around the open end of the net. Once they get used to going through that dangerous opening and nothing happens, then one day when a bunch are in there eating pellets, I close off that end and hopefully harvest a bunch.

The Frabil brand net had a poly netting which has a little bigger mesh size which is fine, but the poly will hold up better than the smaller minnow nets that have a cloth mesh that dry rots easier. But somehow the engineers messed up and the sum of the weights on the bottom does not equal or exceed the sum of the floats on top. It doesn't hold the bottom of the net down!

I thought about different things to attach to the bottom to weight it. Using washers or bolts came to mind but steel can get expensive these days. I could buy a bunch of fishing weights and put them all along the bottom, I considered trying to buy in bulk online. But then I figured the cheapest would be stone or concrete. I thought about tying stones in mesh sacks and cable tying those on. Then I wanted to pour concrete into some coffee cans for some anchors anyway so I bought the smallest bag they had of fast drying concrete (red bag)

I found about 30 small plastic cups and then I took some left over underground burial wire from my dog fence to make it work. I took the dog fence wire and started with a 3" tag, then looped the wire around a screwdriver barrel 3 times to make a coil then another 3" tag then snipped the end. I made 30 of these coils with 2 long tags. I then filled the cups about 1/3 full of concrete, pushed that round coil part of the wire down in the concrete to give the concrete some area of wire to hold on to and then let it harden.


Then it was simple to take a scissors and make a small slit in the side of the cup and peel the cup off the concrete weights. I had hoped that these weights would not grab too much on the bottom when seining and wouldn't rust like steel. If I didn't need them or wanted to add more weight or take some away it would be pretty easy to undo the twist in the tag end of the wire and take them off.

taking them out of the mold:



I didn't know how many to add, I have 2 25' seine nets zip tied together, adding 30 weights would have been too much. We ended up counting 2 of the factory weights, putting one between the 2nd and 3rd factory weights, etc. and then adding a weight at both ends to help hold down the ends.



I waded back in the pond and put it back in place. World of difference now with the bottom end staying nice and close to the bottom of the pond. Before the fish were sneaking under to get from the deep to shallows to sneak up and get the pellets, now they truly will have to learn to go around the side. Might take a little to train them.

It started to rain slightly. The kids fished away. One caught a goldfish on a tiny orange jig with worm, one caught a smaller perch, then the excitement of the night!!

I saw my little niece bringing in something that wasn't fighting like a perch or a goldfish. This one was making rapid darts back and forth and even some circles. That was a new pattern of fighting, very much like a BG or sunfish. I had stocked RES at about 1.5" 2 years ago and then restocked a few last spring but always wondered if they had survived the winter... The good news is at least one did!!

I'm pretty sure I was more excited than the kids were when I caught a glimpse of the sunfish type body and then the red spot on the ear tab!!!



I tried to get a picture of the underside but the light was bad and the pigments dark. There appeared to be waste coming out of the one hole obscuring it. The urogenital pore seemed to be small but very hard to tell on this small fish.



So geeked that the RES survived (hopefully a few) I imagine some may pull off a spawn this year too. What a great thing to discover today and to think they were hanging out all along, just playing hard to catch.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 11:08 PM

Been two weeks since I was at property so wanted to make sure everything was ok after all the rain.

It was muddy muddy muddy...but everything seemed ok.

Thank God I think sunny skies are predicted next several days.

Also saw the new "Texas Flag" picnic table I bought from a guy that makes/sells them on Craigslist.

Wanted a faded/rustic look. The kid did a good job.



Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/16 11:52 PM

Got 1.2" of rain this morning. Pond is up 2-1/4" and creek is running very well.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 05:41 AM

Glad u got it John.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 07:51 AM

Started the day out hooking up the generator and pump to water the grass clover mix around the lower ponds, it's about a four hour job watering it well. Rained last night and the forecast looks favorable for this week so I think this was the last time I'll need to. My daughter brought a friend out to hang out and float in the tubes. I took this as I left to go up and plant more chestnut trees... And to think of a plan for a spring house for refrigeration. There are numerous springs at the head of the larger pond. The water that comes up is perfect for it... I just need a good plan...


My pup loves to swim... He was in much of the time I was watering, the new steps to the dock worked great!



Set the girls to work on a plan for marketing the fine clay silt that comes up with the ice cold spring water...



My best friend came down for a four wheeler ride to scope out this seasons black berry crop, bushes are loaded with blooms, we will be filling buckets in August. Grilled dinner for her on the dock...



The deer flies sometimes get thick up top where the berries are. Not too bad by the lower ponds. She came prepared. I told her she looked like a confused gang member, blood or crip? Pick one!


The "shed" I ordered will be in by the end of the week.
View looking North...


View to the South...
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 08:09 AM

Hollywood, I never get tired of seeing your pond. The view is spectacular.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 08:22 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Hollywood, I never get tired of seeing your pond. The view is spectacular.


Thanks!
That's probably a good thing... Because as a new pond guy... I probably post pics of them too much... I love em!
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 08:40 AM

Too much? Nope
Posted by: Bing

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 04:14 PM

There was this certain muskrat, there may have been this certain 12 gauge short barrel. SSS
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Bing
There was this certain muskrat, there may have been this certain 12 gauge short barrel. SSS


12 gauge short barrel....kinda' surprised the second S might've been needed. Hypothetically of course.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/16 11:32 PM

Wife and I checked two of our feeders, refilled one, wiped Texas Hunter solar charger clean (it picks up dust fast). CNBG go absolutely crazy when the feeder goes off, or when hand feed Optimal. Great to watch! We also unloaded some stuff from our garage to a container sitting on the land at the pond, making it considerably nicer in our garage.

Button bush continue to flourish at pond's edge, reducing erosion. My dirt guy put some rocks in strategic places for the same purpose.

I got a spare wooden pallet for the FHM and small CNBG, tied on a piece of cement to make it sink, and launched it near one of the feeders. But instead of sinking, it floated away! Will catch and sink it eventually, of course, when I get a boat, but incredibly frustrating in the meantime. Always test floatation before launching!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/06/16 08:32 AM

Well, after 4 or 5 days of cloudy wet weather with a rain of 1.5" the Bloom has gone from 18" to 13" on 1/2 of the pond. This took place after the sky's cleared and the sun came out. I reduced the feeder amounts @ the one feeder where the bloom is a thicker pea green color. Cranked up the water well @ 52gpm, shooting for some dilution of this heavy bloom. I am continuing the work on getting the 1500' of 1.5" air line to the pond where I will reduce the airline size and put out 6 diffusers, 4 in the deeper water and 2 in the shallower water. I hope to get in all in by this time next week. Hoping it will not be too late for aeration. Lots of work here.
A side note, I have seen a big reduction in numbers of large cnbg @ this same feeder where I have reduced the feed. lots of small 3 to 5" bg but the larger 7 to 8" ones have been missing from this feeder for a couple of weeks now. Not sure why, have seen no floaters on the pond and the two other feeders have seen no reduction of the larger cnbg.

Thoughts?

Tracy
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/06/16 09:05 AM

Tracy, Am not catching ANY of my 7-9 inch cnbg way out where the feeder sprays but drop a bait right next to the pontoon dock and catch a big one almost every time. They do not seem to want to compete with the thousands of 2-6 inch fish. Maybe they are just a lot slower than the littler ones.
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/06/16 10:17 AM

Had over a dozen people visit our place this weekend since it's blueberry pickin season... Kids like to ride around on the mule and feed the fish. visitors seem to find fish feeding feeding (nearly) as mesmorizing as me!

Surface water temp about 82-84 so went for a dip... Have to feed the fish first unless you like getting nipped by BG which Jodi (aka the "Mrs") truly despises.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/07/16 07:16 PM

I really see the fish taking to the optimal pellets. After discovering on Saturday that there are some RES in the pond I'm very curious to see if they can learn from the other fish how to take pellets. Once they get a taste of them, even sampling them off the bottom, I would hope they would take to them well. Hmm...

I see goldfish scooping them up and probably some perch that move too fast to see, zooming in from below and tail smacking on the way back down. But sometimes now as the water is clearing I can see the broad side of a fish that may be a sunfish.

The fish are more tolerant of me standing there while they feed and are also coming into shallow clear water with little fear. I figure in a night or 2 when they are going at it I hope to suddenly seine them in and then I can get a better count on what is truly showing up for a meal.

Anyone know water temps that RES make their beds at? We had cool days and nights so water temps dropped a bit. I know they tend to bed in a little deeper water so I hope the water is clear enough for me to spot the beds. Right now visibility is about 20-24".
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/07/16 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek


Anyone know water temps that RES make their beds at? We had cool days and nights so water temps dropped a bit. I know they tend to bed in a little deeper water so I hope the water is clear enough for me to spot the beds. Right now visibility is about 20-24".



Not sure on the res, but our BG are usually well into the spawn here by now, but this year only very sporadic bedding taking place so far. Probably only about five percent of normal so far.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/08/16 09:21 PM

Pond house came in today!
Being dropped on the pad Friday...



Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/08/16 09:50 PM

Wow, Hollywood! How cool is that!

Just another piece of the pie for that slice of paradise you have there! Can't wait to see it in place!

Very cool!

What are your plans for the inside?
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/08/16 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Lovnlivin
Wow, Hollywood! How cool is that!

Just another piece of the pie for that slice of paradise you have there! Can't wait to see it in place!

Very cool!

What are your plans for the inside?



I found a flooring material that looks like cedar. I'm going to do the walls and ceilings in that with a wood floor to match the darker wood in the mix. Spray foam insulation, ceiling fan, gas fireplace, deck, some comfy furniture including most importantly a good card table... And... I'm done!
Posted by: For the Family

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/08/16 11:21 PM

http://s482.photobucket.com/user/jason081774/slideshow/Dam%20Repair

I pulled the trigger on the dam repair.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/09/16 07:57 AM

Hollywood, Nice little house. I really enjoy a place after I have picked out the design or materials used for a hideaway or a place I use for relaxation. smile

Tracy
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/09/16 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: basslover
Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
That's the problem Dono, if I google image search poison ivy I get hundreds of plants and all look different. Everyone posts what they think is poison ivy (or poison oak) and they all look so different. We need to find an objective way to identify, just like we struggle to find an objective, by sight features way to sex RES smile

I agree that my vines climbing up the tree look more like poison oak but it also looks like the stuff that when I clear it I get a horrible itchy rash!!



Sure looks like poison IVY to me.


You know there are different types of poison ivy, yes? Eastern poison ivy is a vine and Western poison ivy is a shrub.

Poison oak is typically in the West and the Southeast. You being in Michigan may not have that much in your state.

Check those leaflets up close - if you find hair on both sides you have poison oak, else it's ivy.

Poison ivy and I go way back. I once pulled the hairy vines from our pines only to coil them up and BURN THEM. Yes, burn them. As I stood 10 feet away tending the brush fire. Internal poison ivy is a treat.

Didn't learn.

Fast forward many years and while in the bush I had an opportunity to SELECT a leaf to use for wiping. Of all the leaves in the area I managed to pick poison ivy. And the proceeded to wipe with it. Then days later entered the dermatologist yet again to confirm I had poison ivy "down there".

Now I easily recognize it, suit up, remove it, bag it, and toss it.



You know how the saying goes right? Leaves of 3 let them be (another wards don't touch them) Leaves of 5 let them thrive!!

That helps me remember for the most part. A lot of stuff looks like PI but it's not....
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/09/16 09:57 PM

Got er done tonight after work. In time for Dad's 84th birthday party Saturday!

Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/09/16 10:07 PM

beautiful, what a great picture!!
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/10/16 06:53 AM

That pond house is great! Where did you get it?
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/10/16 07:22 AM

Originally Posted By: liquidsquid
That pond house is great! Where did you get it?


It's an Amish built shed I had modified. Be glad to get you the info if you want. Guy was great to work with. Less than two weeks from design to delivery. I know he has a location in Seneca Falls.
Posted by: ItalyBASS

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/10/16 09:32 AM

Turtle hunting today with air rifle.
4 big and more than 20 new born. whistle
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 06:54 AM

Got things ready for Dads 84th celebration this afternoon. Rain in the forecast. Glad to have this to duck into now. Nice to have zero buyers remorse! Chicken and venison kabobs grilled on some hickory I hung up to dry last summer and a fish fry from my brothers last salt water trip. Planning a little fly fishing derby for the boys after dinner. Going to be a great day! This will be the first get together at this spot, look forward to having everyone here.

Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 08:08 AM

What you're doing today is why we do this stuff.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 08:35 AM

Well, I finished laying the air lines. 1500' of 1.5" rolled tubing, 400' of 1" rolled tubing and then 600' of 1" pvc. Added 6 T's and valves to the one inch pvc. All trenched in but not covered, YET !
The 500' 1.5" rolled tubing was a PITA and I had a few severe kinks in the line. Cut the kinks out and spliced the lines. Now I am waiting on the diffusers, weighted lines etc to show up. I am thinking that it will not be as easy as it sounds to lay the weighted line and all 6 diffusers out. This is based on laying out the above water lines.
PS, Dave you R So Right, cant wate till some of the family comes to the pond for some trophy time. smile

Tracy
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
What you're doing today is why we do this stuff.


Yep. cool
Just got done with a downpour. Ponds will be a bit colored up, but the orchard and grass around the ponds needed it. Seven hours to party time and it looks like the rain is done, should be relatively dry by then. My Dad doesn't know about the cabin and most of people coming haven't seen the ponds yet. This area was a thicket you could barely crawl through last time most saw it. My Mom told me the general consensus was that I was nuts for selling my old house to go all in on "that brush choked hillside" Going to be a fun afternoon on the new homestead!
Posted by: Jack Hamilton

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 09:48 AM

I stocked my pond 3 years ago and feed every day Have caught 4.5 lb bass and blue gill over a lb all in a 1/12 acre pond .my question is which and how many fish should I harvest
Posted by: Jack Hamilton

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/11/16 09:49 AM

I mean one and 1/2 acre pond
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/12/16 02:47 PM

Pat W. and his wife came down from Oakwood to the farm yesterday for the day to visit Debbie and I. Pat and I wore the GSF and BG out in the pond. I've got way too many GSF as I did last year. I removed 300 to a neighbors forage poor pond last year. Looks like a couple hundred easily could go again this year. Pat caught an elusive LSL LMB (Leg)...I wasn't impressed with the size for being in the pond for a year. But, the water needs clearing up. Caught BC as well as some 8"+ BG all on artificial jigs. The fish are coming along slowly as the pond will be 2 years old in August. I just need to remove some more of the GSF. I'd say out of every 10 fish we caught, 7 were GSF. Not what I had planned for since I never stocked the species.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/12/16 09:46 PM

And we had a blast
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/13/16 07:41 AM

Dad's birthday party was just awesome this weekend. Showers cleared to beautiful blue skies by party time. A couple pics...
My son in law nails a dive through the tube...


My nephew with a nice RBT from the fly fishing derby. This kid is so big he makes the fish look tiny!



Another nephew with a RBT in mid fumble. The fish hit the water and took off, apparently photo shy. It was about 3.5 pounds, I believe this one was from the original stock a couple years ago. Very nice fish.

Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/13/16 08:33 AM

Hollywood, those are beautiful trout... congrats!
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/13/16 09:50 PM

Well tonight the goldfish win. I had the seine net across the shallows and they were getting bold enough to hang out between shore and the net. I hand feed and there are 40-50 of them slurping up pellets. I also see perch and can also recognize a few 'slaps' of the RES coming in for pellets.

My son on one end, me on the other end of this heavily weighted, 50 foot seine. We tug furiously to try to pull them in. I can see gold streaks going every which way and man can they swim fast if they need to. We get it up on shore and somehow we have about 10 perch, 1 RES, a bunch of perch minnows, a turtle egg, a few huge ghost shrimp and ZERO goldfish.

I'm thinking that since the seine is long that the middle section might have had the bottom balloon out and flip inside out as we were towing it rapidly. I may have to put a rope to the bottom strand of netting and have a 3rd person pull in the middle and pull that rope in to be sure the bottom part of the net in the middle of the 50 foot length comes in just ahead of the top part? Perhaps go in a little slower since speed isn't so important if both ends are up on shore and they have no where to go.

Of course they are probably going to be shy for a few days, but nothing to do but reposition the net and start feeding for a few days again. It is amazing how they do condition to the feeding. I've been pumping water into the pond and the water is really clear now. You can see swarms of orange in the shallows and they seemed to not mind us watching them eat.

I'm also thinking maybe the thing to do is to have a stake out in the water at the mid point of the net so that the far end is on shore, the middle is staked, and the part from near end to the middle can hinge on the middle stake. Then the near end and the far end which are on shore could be pinched towards the stationary stake in the middle (like the pages of a book closing towards the middle) and they at least would be trapped in the middle.

Other are pros with the seine nets, ideas? I did go and add more of those home made cement weights to the middle section of the net to help keep it down as we are pulling it.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/13/16 10:33 PM

My advice.....trot line baited with canned corn or peas.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/16 07:50 PM

Another seine, another fail. Had tons in the net, they seem to find a way out at the last minute. 3 more RES captured and this little guy was found in the grass. Never saw spines like this before. Could this be my first batch of YOY Lake Chubsuckers?

Strange spine pattern!!




long fusiform body, upturned mouth?



Posted by: Rainman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/16 09:33 PM

Looks like a Brook Stickleback...
Posted by: Rainman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/16 09:41 PM

A seine needs to be pulled somewhat slowly....pulling the lead line low to the ground and slightly ahead of the buoyant line to create a pocket in the seine.

Note how the lead line is ahead of the float line in this seine video.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/16 11:51 PM

Have you tried trapping them? If they are used to eating feed, maybe they would go into a feed baited fish trap of the appropriate size.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/16 08:30 AM

Rex, thanks for the ID on the minnow. I'm pretty sure that is what it is based on other pictures online. It is good to find out that the forage base was maybe more diverse than I thought in the first place. I wonder how he/she hitchhiked in? I wonder if they will successfully reproduce with some predator pressure from perch and RES?

here is some info on them:
5 spined stickleback

More info and another great photo by John Lyons:

the Golfball nest of the stickleback

Rex, also I will try to keep working on our seine technique. I agree, as the water got shallow and we got moving faster we may have lifted up the bottom line a bit or there may be natural indentations in the bottom of the pond where the goldfish sneak out. We will go low and slow next time.

SNRUB, at ice out I could readily get them to go in a trap with pellets. Now they must be too smart to go in the trap. I was searching for a smaller fyke trap (I don't need a 30 footer) to use as I think if it was a longer entry chute and a larger trap in general they probably would go in and stay in. The pyramid minnow traps they either don't go in or have found a way to get in and out freely. The metal minnow traps they won't go near.

The other option since they seem to huddle right at the same place at shore waiting for their pellet dinner, that I may be able to use progressively smaller enclosures. I could use my 25 foot seine and wrap it around 4 fence posts that enclose a smaller square with maybe one corner of the square opened so they can get in. I could just close of that corner, then go in with a net and try to net them out. It is just that netting them out may be tricky as they move fast. But I could probably scare them off to one side of the square, then divide the square in half again to make the netting of them easier.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/18/16 06:25 AM

Been dry here so I watered the new grass around the ponds. Floated in the tube after and watched the birds coming in to feed. Mourning doves, Baltimore Orioles, cardinals, bluejays, rose breasted grosbeak, gold finch, chickadee, grackle, redwing blackbird, cowbirds, and several types of flicker/ woodpeckers. Quite the show!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/18/16 05:55 PM

Yesterday I took my wife & some friends to the pond. Refilled two of the feeders, one was completely empty. Fish are still taking feed, but not as fast as they were before it got so darn hot. Fortunately, two of my three feeders are in the shade during the afternoon & evening.

Saw two crawfish holes at one end of the dam, so I guess that means no stocking will be necessary. Still very little vegetation, though visibility has cleared to a good three feet now with drier weather.

Hope to get liming and LMB stocking done soon. Aeration would be nice, too, though I'll have to do it carefully.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/20/16 06:00 PM

I took the family for a much appreciated vacation today to a lake about an hour north. The lake has been challenging to fish but it has a pretty nice pumpkinseed and BG population. I'm seeing schools of bass minnows in the shallows. The lake is shallow, weedy but has a few deeper holes that may produce some pike.

When we arrived of course the kids wanted to go swimming but we were met by warning signs staked on the shoreline indicating that chemicals would be sprayed today. I guess the chemicals are done every 2 weeks for 3 applications. The company does a route of several lakes in the area. For the first time the names on the sheet sound familiar smile

Here is what they are using:
Adjuvant (cygnet Plus, PolyAn, AGridex)
Chelated Copper (Cutrine Plus, Captain, Symmetry)
Copper Sulfate (Old Bridge, Triangle Brand)
Diquat Dibromide (Redwing, Reward, Solera, Tribune)
Endothall (Hydrothol 191)
Endothol (Aquathol K(

There was a check by each chemical category and a notice for no water contact for a full 24 hours.

They came around noon and there was a stiff wind with chop. They went around each property by the docks, in the coves but I have to believe most of the chemicals blew with the wind to the other side? Perhaps it sinks quickly but today was not an ideal day for a treatment.

Any idea if this concoction is typical? I see zero FA so maybe they are only treating rooted pond weeds?

The boat drove around the place we are staying and did not treat on our frontage as the kids were in the water all day prior to the boat coming to our side of the lake.

Will the chemicals cause skin problems? I assume the chemicals from the opposite shore on a round 200 acre lake would sink before blowing across but not sure. The wind was active.
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/01/16 11:52 PM

Had a great night with family and friends! Some friends brought over 4 Rainbow Trout and 1 Brown Trout which I have never had, let alone cooked. So I did some research and decided to grill it. I also grilled up some Portabella mushrooms, corn on the cob, eggplant, asparagus, squash and zucchini, all doctored up with some fresh rosemary, italian parsley, Thyme and lemons.

Dinner was great, the conversation and time with family and friends even better.

Then after dinner it started sprinkling but I took dad and our friend Doug out to the pond where they both wrangled in 2 nice HSB and a couple dozen BG.

The fun my dad had fighting that HSB and the smiles that followed are just priceless!

Truly blessed!









Dad's HSB and that big smile!



Our friend, Doug's HSB



On the downside, I had my two ultra light rods, one rigged up with a panfish assassin, the other for a worm. When I laid down my ultra light with the panfish assassin, the lure was dangling over the edge of the dock, when something decided to hit on it taking the pole off the dock out into the pond. It happened so fast, all we could do was watch cry .

But what a fun and memorable evening!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 07:54 AM

Keith, looks like you had a great day @ your pond. I also had a great day but it was a lot different from yours. I started my 24/7 air diffusers yesterday and met up with Walt and his grandson Brandon from Overton's Fishery. We added an additional 2500+ threadfins to the pond. I already had threadfins but I wanted to up the numbers. Also added a few RES and some Tilapia. The HSB were feeding on the TFS while we added them to the pond. If the TFS were slow movers, Splash!! BAM !! They became HSB food. smile

Tracy
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 11:56 AM

Keith, thanks for the invite.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 06:57 PM

Drought here has gotten pretty bad. My smallest pond tends to lose water in August, then refill in October. It hasn't cost any lost fish yet. But it was before July and already down a foot. Ran 1,500 feet of water line uphill to a better flow. Seven hours in it is gaining... Slowly. Brookies are loving the oxygen though.
Redneck engineering at its finest... Inlet box...


Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 09:43 PM

Ingenious!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 09:52 PM

Rednecks in NY? Really?
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/16 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: John F
Rednecks in NY? Really?


Oh, you'd be amazed. We got us some of the golldurnest fine rednecks in all of the good ol' U S of A. My neighbor has "Hillary for prison" in the back window of his pickup. Did it hisself with masking tape.
This one here has spent over half a century in NY, without ever once having had to go to NYC. Upstate NY where I am has more cows than people. And we're all just fine with that.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 07:04 AM

Hollywood, I like it, the water line and your neighbor. I hoped there might be some good Yankee's up there. smile I still plan on a trip to Upstate NY for some fishing @ a place called thousand islands, of course, I plan on bypassing NYC smile I am pretty sure I know that lifestyle there and I'll pass.

Tracy
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 08:09 AM

I'm of the opinion there are country folks, there are hillbillies, and there are rednecks. I've always considered redneck to be a sometimes unfortunate state of mind more than anything else. I was born into a hillbilly family, but they most certainly weren't rednecks.

Love the pipe, Hollywood. Good idea!
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 08:40 AM

Just stopped down to check progress. Pond is back up a couple inches. 58 degrees here and I doubt the water coming out the pipe is that warm. Perfect brook trout water. The line runs mostly through the woods. It'll warm some ( maybe to 70) mid day but that will be more than off set by the amount of time it runs cold. Once it gets back to the overflow the warmest water will be taken off the top.
Sprkplug... By your definition, I suppose we're country/hillbillie hybrids...
Tracy, that's a great spot, an hour and a half or two North of here. Good seven hour trip to NYC... You'll be in good hands! Great Muskellunge fishing, but usually best in November. Decent northern pike, some walleye, excellent YP and SMB water. Take time to see Boldt castle and Singer island. If you get near the finger lakes area (I'd recommend it!) let me know.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 08:58 AM

Yep, the media has embraced "redneck", and I believe mistakenly categorized it in the same manner in which they have forever corrupted our vision of "reality".

I'm curious to see how the trout, (and your pond as a whole), fare with this setup. Please post a few updates!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 09:27 AM

The dewpoint here is the same as the morning low, 71 degrees. Felt hot and muggy even very early. The only places we have trout here is in the tail waters of four large COE reservoirs. The rules for fishing for them are so complicated that I don't even bother.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/03/16 10:55 AM

Summer cold front here Nebraska, 59 degrees this morning, we had 1.3" of rain yesterday with a high of 64 degrees. My water went from very green to very brown in a very short amount of time, secchi disk readings have jumped 4". Even with aeration running I have fish piping at the surface in places away from the aerator this morning. Yikes! eek
Posted by: L's Pond

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/04/16 02:14 PM

Sat at the dock and had my coffee this morning. There was some sort of film on the water. Didnt cover the whole pond, was pushed to one end of the pond by the dock. There were bubbles in it, with a brownish color to it. Was wondering what causes that. I took a pool test strip and tested the water. PH 6.4, Alkalinity 0, hardness 100. Not sure what that all means, but it didn't look good. Any thoughts?
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/04/16 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: sprkplug

I'm curious to see how the trout, (and your pond as a whole), fare with this setup. Please post a few updates!


Well, three days in and the pond is up five inches. Water looks better, fish are active again. So far, so good. My goal is to reach overflow again, skim the debris and warmest water off the top. 90's here this week with no rain again... Glad I got this in place.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/09/16 09:01 AM

Spring water to the pond is working great after a week of flow. Pond level has risen 9-10 inches, about four inches left to reach over flow. Water looks better and the brookies are MUCH more active than they've been at this point of summer in years past. Water from the 1,500 feet of line warms some throughout the day. Most of it is shaded but enough sees sun that it does get warmer than I'd prefer at mid day, 70-72 degrees. I've decided to just let it ride and run 24/7 though. It's adding oxygen at its warmest about five hours a day, a couple hours either side of that is acceptable temperature, leaving about 14-15 hours a day at 60 or less. I'll keep an eye on it and adjust as the fish activity suggests. The stagnant, low water I've had mid summer in the past has concerned me... Enough to have a plan ready if we got drought conditions. So glad to have this in place... Had rain in the area the past 24 hours but it danced all around here without a drop.
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/09/16 10:37 AM

I'm watching my pond lower slow inch by slow inch as we have only had 0.82 inches of rain in the last 60 days. Church is taking a fair amount of water out to irrigate the church gardens to grow taters, pumpkins and corn. The corn looks pretty pathetic, and what comes up the deer stomp back down.

Not a good year for gardening for us, and I am starting to worry about our well as I overhear there is a problem with our area's water table which may be a result of recent gas wells drilled smack in the middle of our aquifer.

This is our first time on moderate drought since we moved here. First two years we had the pond was dry, but nothing like this.

Normally 16 inches of rain by now, we are sitting at 7.7.

Oh yes, still searching for my wedding ring. Ugh.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/10/16 05:12 PM

I haven't been out to our place since Father's day weekend. The feed in the TH was very low at that time, so I thought I'd get it filled during the next week. I ended up getting ill and today was the first possible day to make it back. Didn't want to, but stopped in at the local TSC and picked up enough multi fish feed to carry us over until I can get up to Overtons and pick up some Cargill (Trident) 4512. No rain up that way for 3 weeks, so the water level dropped almost a foot.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/10/16 05:23 PM

Mowed, trimmed, graded drive, sprayed glyphosate and 2,4-D. Eight hours worth total. No drought thus far, thankful for that. Ponds are a nice green color, fish active and growing. Tired, but happy.

Late breaking: Discovered a tree had come down on the property fence between us and a neighbor. Cut it off the fence and hauled it away. Just got in.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/11/16 10:11 AM

Well we got busy with a nice little Kubota excavator and did some tree , some stump, and landscape work. Sure is nice when you can get equipment like this to help you do the job!!! Leveled off the front yard put in some grass seed. Gonna start looking good now!!!







Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/11/16 10:30 AM

nice toy RC51
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/11/16 12:33 PM

Yeah my dad was loving it!! He tore stuff up all weekend!! LOL... Them Kubota's are nice machines!!

RC
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/11/16 01:04 PM

Nice toy RC!!

MI was getting very dry and the forecast as of last night, no rain today. Low and behold we woke up to rumbling thunder and have had such a nice light rain all morning and now at noon another round of light thunder and nice rain. I hope it isn't just spotty here in W MI as the whole state really needs it. But to see how rain is provided when and where it is meant to be and the forecasters can do nothing about it and certainly had zero chance of rain today still comforts me that Power in nature still has the reins firmly in hand...

Took the seine nets out. Unless the bottom in the shallows is graded smooth as a road the goldfish either make a run under the net and pile through or make a hop over the floats and get out that.

They are really taking to the Optimal feed. They throw caution to the wind now. Whether I'm standing right there or not, they are gobbling food as fast as they can. The water is clear now and it is cool to see 2 goldfish have an unusual black and white pattern. I figure all is not lost if the goldfish stay in the pond, they are setting a strong example to my perch and RES to come and get it every time they create a ruckus on the feeding end of the pond.

Interesting that there is a second 'school' of goldfish that stay on the other end of the pond and will have nothing to do with the feeding end. If I walk all the way around they will ignore the food until I walk away and they they will carefully eat it. It as if they are in a different societal class than the main group and have to stay to the back of the line and on the other end of the pond smile

Working on trying to get my dad-in law's, dad's old Evinrude Fisherman model 5hp to run right, mostly to idle right. Thinking the carb needs cleaning as I can't get the fuel mixture right. Been doing very small circles in the pond trying to test it out.

I need to stop in the middle this week and pull up the aerators and clean off the heads again. Forgot to do that this spring and usually they have a sticky clay on them.

Also hope after this all day rain to have 'high water' and then can wait for a windless day to retreat my soilfloc.

I can't believe how there is this tight skin on the bottom due to the soilfloc. I do wonder if that is why I still have zero vegetation. I have clear water, plenty of sun but no weeds. Maybe seeds have a hard time seeding in the hard pan top layer? Or maybe the goldfish and crays are nipping everything off early?

I didn't put tilapia in this year and seeing just a hint of FA on the south side of the pond.

Seeing lots of schools of tiny minnows, despite my efforts to remove MOST of the perch egg ribbons...

Loretta, did you get any ribbons or perch this spring? I know you have tried hard for years....

My family is coming over for what we call Family Night on Thursday. I'll likely have 30 kids ringing my tiny pond with zebcos. I think I'm going to offer $2 per goldfish caught....
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/16/16 10:27 PM

Caught about 20 more goldfish last night and 11 tonight. Finally got that elusive black goldfish. Picture isn't that clear but I think there is one more with black coloration on it left in the pond so may get another picture later.



I also was VERY excited to see one of the kids pull in my very first longear sunfish. 2 years ago I stocked 25 each RES and LES. Not seeing any the next year, I added 25 more RES. It looks like both made it through 2 winters!

I have never seen a long ear in person. The colors seem right (lots of turquoise dots) but the ear isn't that long (maybe immature LES yet?) and do all LES have the orange on the ear tab? I thought the ear tab on LES were all black?

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/16/16 10:49 PM

Since you stocked LES and RES maybe you have a hybrid offspring of the two?????

Beautiful fish!

Longear sunfish
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/18/16 10:12 PM

Does anyone have experience identifying RES vs LES vs the hybrid of the two? Do LES have orange on their ear tab?
Posted by: JDMahindra

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/18/16 10:46 PM

Worked on our pond edge bulkhed project
Made great progress trenching and running tie back cables to the dead mans
Also capped off the ends of main bulkhed to hold back fill dirt

Just need one more good day to finish remaining tie back cables installation
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/23/16 09:06 PM

Hotter than Hades today at the property. Murdered some FA in the pond. Gave the mules some oat cookies and had some delicious fresh watermelon from Ham Orchards.







http://hamorchard.com/
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/24/16 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek


I also was VERY excited to see one of the kids pull in my very first longear sunfish. 2 years ago I stocked 25 each RES and LES. Not seeing any the next year, I added 25 more RES. It looks like both made it through 2 winters!

I have never seen a long ear in person. The colors seem right (lots of turquoise dots) but the ear isn't that long (maybe immature LES yet?) and do all LES have the orange on the ear tab? I thought the ear tab on LES were all black?





That looks like a hybrid LES/RES.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 03:56 PM

I sprayed American Lotus today. Again. Still.

4 acres down, 1/8 acre to go.

I was standing chest deep in waders when I took this pic.



So, any guesses?

Length 26 1/4"
Gape 4 1/2"
Girth 19"
Weight??

Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 04:07 PM

wow AL that is great fish!
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 05:32 PM

VERY NICE, AL~!

My guess is 8.75 lb.

Man, that is one healthy looking fish, congrats!

On a Fluke?
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 05:57 PM

I don't think it will go quite 10 lbs. Maybe 9lbs 11oz.
Posted by: teehjaeh57

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 06:10 PM

Well done, Dreamboat! Gotta be pushing 10
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 06:26 PM

I'm saying 9.8. Maybe it's just me, but looking at the side profile of the fish, not knowing it's weight, it would be one that I'd cull just by looking at the size of it's head.

But then again I might be putting my foot in my mouth!
Posted by: DNickolaus

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 07:40 PM

Per Ohio DNR, yes, a LES can have red margins on the tab.
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/species-and-habitats/species-guide-index/fish/longear-sunfish

So I'd be interested on exactly why folks thinking a cross with RES.

And one I just caught w castnet, likely a breeding male, has the barest of white margins on the opercle. Aren't they just beauts?
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 07:56 PM

Great fish Al! 9.25???
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 09:11 PM

Thanks guys. First, I DID NOT catch this fish. I was spraying coontail, and kept seeing something sticking out of the water. I finally figured out it was a LMB tail. That's not a good sign. I went and got a net and my wife, and we spent almost 2 hours trying to net her. I would see her upside down on the bottom, but she would swim away. I finally got her netted, but she felt soft in the belly to me. That's another bad sign.

I wanted to see why her stomach was so soft, so I checked. There was nothing there but a tumor/growth of some sort. Her liver was diseased also.

Short story long, she weighed 9.11#, but was 3/4" longer than the TX state record of 18#. RW was 87%. I do know she was in old age decline, but I sure would like to have seen her caught her in her prime.

But, I really try to save these larger fish for guests, so I hope she had been hooked at some point before. Whatever the reason for her demise, she probably gave me 9-10 years of her genetics. That ain't a bad thing at all.

All's well.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 09:14 PM

BTW, I talked to Al before I "guessed" the weight of 9.11
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/16 09:34 PM

Scott hit it pretty close. 3 oz off, but he hit the cull part right. Even though she was long, she was skinny. Tough decision ensues.

Would you keep her for recreation, or cull her based purely on performance? Even if healthy, she was way under RW when others here near her size aren't.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 01:36 AM

What I did at my pond today is watch the fish feeding -- still ravenous -- and put out stakes so the electric company can get us wired up.

One of the spots we'll need juice is for the aeration compressors, and it is HARD TO REACH in the summer with all the bushes, brambles, thorns, etc. Night was falling and we had quite a sweaty time getting there. As for making it back, suffice it to say that's the worst experience I've had in a long time.

Anyway, I measured water temp at 7:30pm, 84 F. My guess 88 or so during the middle of the day.

pH is still lousy, between 5.5 and 5.7. I'm gonna need A LOT of lime, and not just in the pond. Sigh.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 06:30 AM

Al, that is a nice fish. I would have kept her for the recreation. She is still a trophy to most everyone I have fished with.

Tracy
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 08:14 AM

Al, knowing the goals for your pond, and the history, even if she was healthy I would have recommended removing her. She doesn't fit the goals, and the biomass could be used by an upcoming LMB.

It sure would be interesting if you can get her aged.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 08:25 AM

I agree with esshup, with your goals in mind and only 87 percent RW you got to take that fish....

It would be kinda like having a 6 year old 130 class 10 point on your land that's full of 4 year old 155 class 10 points... Some just have to be culled..... that's part of it.

RC
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: DNickolaus
Per Ohio DNR, yes, a LES can have red margins on the tab.
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/species-and-habitats/species-guide-index/fish/longear-sunfish

So I'd be interested on exactly why folks thinking a cross with RES.

And one I just caught w castnet, likely a breeding male, has the barest of white margins on the opercle. Aren't they just beauts?


Incorrect assumption on my part. I had never seen any pictures of LES with the red on the opercular. Also that there were only two species introduced, RES and LES, so the opportunity was there.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: John F
Originally Posted By: canyoncreek


I also was VERY excited to see one of the kids pull in my very first longear sunfish. 2 years ago I stocked 25 each RES and LES. Not seeing any the next year, I added 25 more RES. It looks like both made it through 2 winters!

I have never seen a long ear in person. The colors seem right (lots of turquoise dots) but the ear isn't that long (maybe immature LES yet?) and do all LES have the orange on the ear tab? I thought the ear tab on LES were all black?





That looks like a hybrid LES/RES.



I wondered about hybrid too because the 'long ear' is not very long on this fish. The eyes are very red too. Perhaps this is a pure LES with red on opercular tab, red eyes and a mini-opercular tab rather than a big one. The LES posted above has the longer long-ear sized tab.

Also the chest/abdomen of this LES is very golden, more like the ones on my RES. A true LES usually has that beautiful color pattern all over the chest and abdomen too like in the picture just above this post?

The size and stocking date of these fish suggest that they have not spawned yet which also makes me wonder if no hybridization happened yet, why this one doesn't look like the 'typical' LES. However, northern pond growth characteristics may be different and I don't know the true genetic source of the 1.5" long LES I bought from Brian Zimmerman (meaning did they come from a southern source?)

Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 02:51 PM

On my pond this morning I watched something very amusing. It was only about 5 minutes before the first morning feeder went off so thousands of cnbg were ganged up and ready to eat....when a small moth about an inch long touched down on the water. A fish struck at it but missed and she flew off but only a couple inches off the surface and touching the water ever so often. It was almost as if it was toying with the fish!! It made about 3 circles around in the pond with what looked like something out of a JAWS movie following right on its tail wakeing and popping at it the whole time. It was hilarious!! Then it flew to shore and never saw it again but I can almost see it sticking its tongue out at the fish as it left. Smart or lucky? You make the call.
Posted by: teehjaeh57

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Thanks guys. First, I DID NOT catch this fish. I was spraying coontail, and kept seeing something sticking out of the water. I finally figured out it was a LMB tail. That's not a good sign. I went and got a net and my wife, and we spent almost 2 hours trying to net her. I would see her upside down on the bottom, but she would swim away. I finally got her netted, but she felt soft in the belly to me. That's another bad sign.

I wanted to see why her stomach was so soft, so I checked. There was nothing there but a tumor/growth of some sort. Her liver was diseased also.

Short story long, she weighed 9.11#, but was 3/4" longer than the TX state record of 18#. RW was 87%. I do know she was in old age decline, but I sure would like to have seen her caught her in her prime.

But, I really try to save these larger fish for guests, so I hope she had been hooked at some point before. Whatever the reason for her demise, she probably gave me 9-10 years of her genetics. That ain't a bad thing at all.

All's well.


This is the only scenario I can imagine being happy culling a trophy fish - you caught her on the definite decline and it's an easy call. Sorry to see her go, but there's more BG to feed the up and comers for sure. Fillets or the garden?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 05:15 PM

TJ, I actually froze her. I talked to DD1 about her, and he had some great suggestions. Yeah I know, right?

I'm gonna try to get the otolith out, and get Texas A&M to age her and do a stomach eval.

If she had been healthy, even though underweight, I most likely would have put her back. I've culled underweight LMB up to 5-6# before, and it's awfully hard to do. Not sure I'm mentally tough enough to do what's needed to get those few large fish over the top.
Posted by: teehjaeh57

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 07:03 PM

I hear you dude...I personally have a glaring deficiency in pond management - harvesting apex predators. My family isn't crazy about eating fish, and while I know I'm HSB heavy right now, hard to bring myself to pull any 20"+ fish.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/16 07:58 PM

Panko bread crumbs and small nugget pieces pan fried, deep fried, or baked if you are more health conscious. Panko gives it some crunch. Add in a little flavoring if you like (we like 1/4 cajun fish mix seasoning with the Panko).

Fish has always been fairly low on my preferred list also TJ, but I'm telling you, fixed right, it is good eating.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 06:43 AM

I fished the pond out of a boat for the first time yesterday. Surface water temp was 90 and a little lower around the diffusers but still pretty warm. Fly fishing for 21 month old cnbg. I mostly fished away from the 3 TH feeders because I was looking to see where else they might be hanging out. I had few bites unless I got close to the area where the feeders are. So, I am fishing with little luck and up pops a Beaver, right beside me. She dives under and pops up again maybe 50 yds away an then goes under again, never to be seen again. Where did that dadgum thing go? There are no visible signs of nesting spots in or around the pond. We did see a beaver about this same time last year, and only saw the thing once. I think the bayou some 300 yds away is very shallow right now with only pools of water, so she is coming from there, I have seen them there in the past. Two things came out of this fishing adventure, one was if you want to catch cnbg, fish the feeder area and two, carry the riffle next time.

Tracy
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 07:51 AM

Tracy, last few beavers we had never hutted up. They came in and out from the old creek bed behind the dam, and I just follow the trails in the grass to see where they're coming in.

Esshup got me schooled on wire snares, and I've never looked back. Lead and snares are my go to tools now. I have only had one in the last year, but I've still got older trees wrapped in welded wire from damage several years ago.
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 10:21 AM

Me too Al ! But I use traps.


I have found that beaver dislike like lead and steel ! You only get 1 shot though and not easy to do. Find the narrow spot in the trail and put a trap. On either side of the trap stick sticks in the ground like a fence to funnel them into the trap placed across the trail.


Posted by: teehjaeh57

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Panko bread crumbs and small nugget pieces pan fried, deep fried, or baked if you are more health conscious. Panko gives it some crunch. Add in a little flavoring if you like (we like 1/4 cajun fish mix seasoning with the Panko).

Fish has always been fairly low on my preferred list also TJ, but I'm telling you, fixed right, it is good eating.


My family craves fish 1x annually, that's about it. I want to get them into fish tacos, might increase the demand around the house. I don't have a problem harvesting underperforming fish, but I'm blessed with a great problem where most of my fish are over 100 WR due to feeding program and good forage base. In the end, female BG are about the only fish I don't have a problem harvesting.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 05:29 PM

Added an Agri Drain inlet water level control structure to the YP/SMB pond. Bought it last year and will raise the water level 4" per year for 3 years.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 06:00 PM

RAH you have been busy!!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 06:11 PM

Trying to catch up after a spring shoulder surgery. I don't heal as fast as I used to...
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: RAH
Added an Agri Drain inlet water level control structure to the YP/SMB pond.

I love that company!

Agri-Drain Bar-Guard

Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 07:07 PM

RAH, please post some pics of your riser. Does it leak much, if any?

I could spend thousands at Agri Drain.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 07:09 PM

yes pics please
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/16 08:09 PM

Pics - kinda tough due to location









Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 07:23 AM

Thanks RAH.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 07:51 AM

This is the second one that I bought, and they used inline one's on each of two wetlands that were mitigated on my place. They have worked great for me, but I plan to cover this one, like the last, to keep most of the UV off the PVC. I am not sure how much that will extend their life, but it can't hurt. It also allows the pipe to carry more water under flood conditions by preventing a vortex.
Posted by: slabman98

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 09:12 AM

RAH, curious why just 4" a year and not all at one time?
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 12:08 PM

Rah, is that a 2' tall model pictured? I see they make sizes 2' to 6' but can also make custom sizes.

I need to get one of those rat guards. I periodically have muskrats use the overflows to travel from creek to pond and from pond to pond. If they were prevented from using the protected pathways of the overflow tubes it would force them to get above ground and the red tail hawks have access to them. grin Which would save me having to trap them.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 02:47 PM

I raise a bit at a time to give marginal plants a chance to adapt and spread up the bank, and to avoid too much decaying matter from being submerged at a time. The rat guards cut down on muskrats, but plenty still find a way to the ponds and wetlands. My neighbor trapped out 21 last winter.
Posted by: Auggyfamily

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/28/16 10:03 PM

We'll because I was scared my 2-4 inch perch in mynhatcherynwoukd die due to the extremely high temperatures in Ohio...pond surface up to 92 degrees..we pulled up the hatchery escape and set them free!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/29/16 07:16 AM

Did you have them caged because you are concerned about predators?
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/30/16 05:17 PM

Today was the first day that I've fished since surgery 6 weeks ago. My wife and I caught a few BG and GSF for fun (C&R). But, man it was hot. 104 degrees up in Leggett, TX.

We had an inch and a half of rain last week and 2 1/2" this past Thursday up there. The pond is back up to full level...for now.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/30/16 06:33 PM

Good news all around,, keep up the quick recovery.
I was cleaning out my pm and came across one where you and Williamson threatened a road trip up to Bill Ds place if I could have Cecil try to take me over. Still possible? Don't worry about what Bill says, If we all just show up he can't do much.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/30/16 09:03 PM

Sounds like a plan to me!!
Posted by: tubguy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/16 03:45 PM

I sure miss Cecil's input here on the forum!I found his projects interesting and informative.I may need to pick his brain sometime down the road.I may send him a friend request on Facebook.I don't want him to think I am a stalker though.I guess I can tell him that I know Bob-O! I am sure that would alleviate all of his fears!! smirk No pond therapy today because I am on duty.Mowed around the pond and ran trimmed the island with a weedeater.Trapped a few minnows trying to catch some BG or RES minnows.
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/16 08:21 PM

Had a friend over today for some BG culling and we caught 30 pretty decent ones in an hour.



After 4 years of raising them (as well as the HSB and LMB), there's no doubt it takes a certain mindset to put them under the knife, other than for the sake of fishery management, but given the circumstances, family and friends will be well fed!

Every one in my family loves fish and they either like the way I prepare it, or just happy I'm the one doing it (more likely). But with the downside of spending all my time breading and frying I decided to try and bread them before freezing and it works great. Now all I have to do is pull them out of the freezer and into the fryer or oven they go. Now I'm putting in the time before the fish-fry instead of during.



Snrub, I too use Panko bread crumbs and also crushed Corn Flakes (mom's favorite), and for a thinner style breading, Zaterain's Crispy Southern Fish Fri is very good as well, especially for smaller fillets.

Fresh, fried and flaky! smile

Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/16 08:24 PM

Had a good friend and his family get some water lily starts. His last ones seemed to succumb to a snapper. He will fence these!
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/16 08:50 PM

Went to the farm yesterday and got to work on the brood ponds a little. Also, fishing is on hold for now as the surface temp is just under 90 degrees F.

Today, I worked on a new airlift system for Tilapitopia 4. The new airlift is about 20% better and can lift water an additional inch above the waterline. It has been a good weekend.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/16 11:52 PM

Those fillets look great Keith. Never thought of using corn flakes.

Wifes attempt at freezing already breaded we did not like as well. Must not have the process correct yet. Have to try it again sometime.

No pond for me for a while other than a very big pond called Caribbean doing one of my other passions watching fish and critters under the water. Boy are my BG going to be pissed at me. Grandson only feeds them a couple times a week while I'm gone instead of daily. Will be surprised if they even speak to me when I get home!
Posted by: Theo Gallus

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/01/16 08:34 AM

Hauled out a couple dozen gillcrackers last night, threw this one back in:
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/01/16 10:12 AM

Yeah, I'd have thrown that one back in before it was seen.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/06/16 10:36 AM

Pulled some cattails and took some pics of wetland and pond flowers.









Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/06/16 11:31 AM

WOW RAH looking great. What a wonderful spot you have.



Filled the feeder with a second 50# bag of feed for the year. The bio mass must be growing.

Water level is low so I might touch up the water fall and see what cracks are in the bottom part today.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/07/16 11:14 AM

Really nice RAH....those pictures bleed tranquility smile
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/07/16 12:40 PM

Beautiful spot, RAH. I admire what you've done there, but I'm glad it's you and not me. I would probably have a nervous breakdown thinking about the tractor and bushhog, walk behind brush cutter, hand held brushcutter, chainsaw, loppers, weed razor, landscape rake, and a tank car full of aquatic herbicide that I would deem necessary.

I'm betting that your vision is just as much work, if not more, than mine. Very nice work.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/07/16 01:23 PM

It actually takes less maintenance, but controlling invasives early is the key. We wiped some phragmites and willow this morning. I just got done digging a very small vernal wetland in the woods, and my wife is on the dozer as I type. She decided she would rather have me pick the tomatoes. She is better at it than me anyway. Update: Moved the dirt from the vernal pool to a low stretch in one of the woodland roads and spread it out. We are real dry right now, so its a good time to do dirt work.
Posted by: joelleye

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/07/16 07:20 PM

Looks awesome RAH. You have done a great job
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/07/16 09:49 PM

Fantastic!!!!!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/08/16 06:03 AM

Thanks for the nice words.
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/09/16 11:19 AM

RAH, Very nice!

What is the purpose of the rock wall extending into the pond?
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/09/16 12:06 PM

Jetty is cover for crayfish and scuds. This pond has SMB as the top predator (only added 10 last year). It also has FHM, GSH, RES, and YP.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/23/16 07:54 AM

I had left over soilfloc from my first episode of pond bottom sealing dating back to fall of 2015. My goal was to retreat in the early spring when water had warmed but before vegetation came in. Well, as you all know, life happens quickly and you blink and it is August 20 something!!

So I asked my dad to stop by again and now that we have the system down from last time, we made short work of treating the pond again. This time we didn't fuss with marking out the shoreline as we knew from experience last time that when we apply the product with a hand crank grass spreader that you get a very even plume on the water that spreads out to about 8' wide before settling. We just made sure that the men, one on each side of the pond with ropes, moved the boat into the leading edge of the plume to apply the next 'lane' of product and were sure to have a overlapping section.

I don't know if the product covers more area with a spreader verses tossing cups of products in one place, but I know we ordered enough product to 'treat' the pond according to TJs directions last fall and seemed to have about half of it left after the first treatment. We had overlapped the pond heavy and really treated it twice last fall. I treated the whole pond again last night and even went back and redid about 1/3 of it the 3rd time where we feel the leak might be. I still have a 5 gallon bucket of part A and B left (I think 1 unit)

Conditions were perfect, not a breath of wind. As before, the water cleared up very nicely. The aerator is off for a few days to let things settle.

We had a tornado come through Grand Rapids on Saturday and it brought an inch of rain. The pond is at record levels so we treated the edges heavily and the hydraulic pressure pushing the product down should be ideal as well.

Grand Rapids is not used to the prairie style tornados with a tornado on the ground on/off for 2 hours! Spending some scary moments in our basement on Saturday hearing the live street by street path of the tornado be broadcast over the local stations as it barreled toward us. Fortunately, very little structural damage to houses, just damage where big trees were pushed on to them. Mostly just tons of mature trees pushed over and lots of limbs torn off and debris. It had a direct hit at my work but the building weather it well with only a few aluminum roof panels loose or torn off. The crews were out yesterday with skid steers and tow straps tipping the young maple trees back straight and staking them back up in the upright position.

I took the chance while out in the pond in a boat to pull the diffuser and clean it. I thought it was producing a fair amount of bubbles, but the diffuser we completely caked with a clay-soilfloc mix from earlier this year. Clay usually just rubs off with a little water. This mixture however was like concrete and about 1/2" thick. How bubbles even got through that is amazing. I used my nails to gently scrape the rubber membrane and repeated washing attempts finally got it clean.

I'd like to run it right away to see how much better it works but better let the soilfloc seal and settle first. The aerator disks are on the standard vertex base and that base is screwed to a plastic tote that is 6" high. Yet it must still somehow stir up some sediment as everything down there was coated with clay/soilfloc mix. In the bottom of the picture you can make out my plastic coke bottle that also has a heavy layer of green/brown slime on it.

Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/29/16 09:47 AM

Fixed the Husqvarna mower to mow grass that hasn't been cut in 5-6 weeks (yikes!). Got about 1/4 through before belt broke. That's what I'll be doing next weekend.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/29/16 04:13 PM

I mowed around my pond again today. Week before last I seeded annual rye along the wet exposed banks from the water dropping. Today I saw a nice thick crop of seedlings. When or if the pond fills back up there will be a nice layer of grass for cover and plankton growth for the smallest fish. I did the same thing along the lower banks for erosion control as the pond first filled.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 08/30/16 05:14 PM

Didn't do much at the pond, but I did drive up to Overtons and picked up 300# of much needed Cargill 4512 in the 1/8" and 1/4" pellet size. I also picked up some Cargill 4818 (48% protein, 18% fat) in the 3/16" pellet size. Then, had coffee and breakfast with my podnuh, Pat W. in Buffalo, TX. Hope to load the feeder later this week when my helper from LA shows up.
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/06/16 09:15 AM

Took the long weekend to paint the fish house and pull the aeration system out of the pond. I'll be moving within the next 6 months so I wanted to get it done before Fall.

Some pics:




My idea of pulling the weighted tubing through PVC to clean it as it came out of the pond seemed good in theory but didn't work. So I tied one end to the UTV and while my buddy pulled it out I used a soaked towel to wipe it clean, and that worked much better!




700' Cleaned and coiled up! (that stuff IS heavy!!!)



On the diffusers, I used a tack hook to grab the tubing near the diffuser and was able to pull each of them up, and they weren't as bad as I had expected. I cleaned 3 of them last year but even the deep one I haven't cleaned in 4 1/2 years wasn't too bad.



And clean!


Lastly I got the compressor cabinet cleaned up and repainted as well.



And even got to spend some time fishing with my brother and his Grandson who had a ball catching frogs and a lot of BG including this RES.



Capping off the weekend was frying up some fish for my folks, along with my niece and her family.

So all in all a productive weekend although, working with 700' of weighted tubing certainly tested the 'ol back!
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/16 09:26 PM

Non-working day at the pond, just took some time to reflect.

Tranquility smile

(And pretty cool when it's hard to tell which picture is upside down)

Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/16 10:41 PM

Keith, Love your posts and your paint job on the shed! Looks great. Too bad you can't take that shed with you!

What size weighted tubing was that did you say? It looks heavy!

I see one of your diffusers has the 2 disks right on top of each other. That must be for a shallow water application? My diffuser is posted in a picture a few up from yours in this post. Mine had quite a thick layer of almost cemented grime on it, but it also endured some soil floc sealant. Yours cleaned up very nicely.

Your pond is beauteous, you will certainly have a hard time finding another place to live that is like this one!
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/16 12:05 AM

Thank you, Canyoncreek!

On the shed, I don't know if you've seen the inside from previous posts, but I have a cleaning station inside (tapping into the on-demand well for water), cabinetry and wired with lights and outlets. Hence, the "fish house" smile . And it is NOT staying, it is for sure going with me! And I built it as such that the porch roof can be removed and the shed itself is on skids of sorts so it can be lifted onto a flatbed. No way it's staying here!

The tubing is Bottomline 5/8" ID weighted tubing, and yep it's heavy! IIRC it's 1/2 lb per foot, 50 lb per 100'.

On the diffusers I'm sure glad mine didn't look like yours and luckily mine cleaned up without any scraping. Of my 4, 3 of them are shallow which is why the disks are closer together, which appears to just be a matter of the length of PVC between them. I'm selling the system so if someone needs deep diffusers I'm guessing I could just lengthen the PVC on the shallow ones.

CC, it's beyond beautiful out here and I'm truly blessed to have had nearly 5 years to be here, learn what I've learned from the great folks on this forum (with the privilege of meeting several), and done what I've done. It was a new chapter when I moved here and it will be a new chapter when I leave. Yet someday I will again have a pond, one I can call my own!

Thanks again!
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/12/16 08:28 AM

I noticed way too many 8-12" actively feeding LMB while cutting grass around the pond. So, Jodi and I went down and caught a dozen in about an hour. Caught one nearly two pounds that normally would be released but was gill hooked. 5 pounds total... I've been lax since last summer keeping up with LMB harvest (at least) 10 more lbs this fall.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/12/16 08:54 AM

Wife and I fished for 4 hours to catch enough cnbg to get a good average relative weight idea. Have been noticing a reduction in size and a overpopulation of bluegill. Caught,weighed,and measured 55 fish from 4 and 1/2 inch to 7 1/2 inch. Average relative weight was 99.842% The last time was average 112%. We did catch 3 of the 50 florida lmb we just stocked and they were all approx. 10 inch long and right where they need to be. I guess soon enough the lmb will start lowering the numbers of the cnbg. I must have close to a ton of cnbg in a 2 acre pond and only 50 10 inch bass.We released everything we caught. Still see small fry bluegill all around the bank in certain areas.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/04/16 11:12 PM

I took advantage of the low water to add an extension to my small dock.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 07:48 AM

John, how low is your water? We are getting close to the 2 foot low mark!! we have only had 1/2 inch rain since Sept. 1st. Yikes!!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 08:46 AM

30 inches low yesterday.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 10:21 AM

The last "significant" rain we have had here locally was on July 26. Nothing since then that created any runoff at all.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 11:04 AM

Our last good rain was early August. I got the pond up to a little over a foot below full pool. (From 4' below full). No real rain since then, I'm back to 24" below full now.
However, I did catch four of these guys last weekend!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 12:47 PM

We got 3/4 inches of rain this morning. No run-off. Raised the pond 3/4 inch. No more rain is in the 10 day forecast.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Our last good rain was early August. I got the pond up to a little over a foot below full pool. (From 4' below full). No real rain since then, I'm back to 24" below full now.
However, I did catch four of these guys last weekend!


Ah, Setter, one day I hope to see that in my pond too! Congrats! Looks like a jig? Was it tipped with anything?
Posted by: peachgrower

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/05/16 07:14 PM

JohnF, man we have hit the drought also, been a few weeks and nothing in site. I'm back down around 4' below full.

I agree with CMM, nice fish and hope to be seeing those soon!

setterguy, I love the color of your water...what all have you don e to get it there?

What did I do? I had 8 tons of lime spread yesterday...just fed fish today. It was a big spreader truck with floatation tires on the rear. He was able to get in the water a bit. Good south wind also so it spread pretty nice. Would have liked to have gotten more on the north end by the levee, but he could back down there of course and the south wind kept it from going down very far. Was pretty pleased with it though. With my pond down so much it was a great time to lime.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/06/16 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: CMM
[quote=SetterGuy]Our last good rain was early August. I got the pond up to a little over a foot below full pool. (From 4' below full). No real rain since then, I'm back to 24" below full now.
However, I did catch four of these guys last weekend!

Ah, Setter, one day I hope to see that in my pond too! Congrats! Looks like a jig? Was it tipped with anything?


I had a little yellow crappie bite on the hook. I found they fell off pretty quickly. Didn't seem to make much difference if it was on or not. I caught the one pictured slowly retrieving it along the bottom. Caught three others with a quicker retrieve.
Usually I can't catch anything besides HBG, but all I caught the other morning were YP. Maybe it's because my feeder is broken.. Again..
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/07/16 05:43 PM

last year I had tilapia that kept the pond pretty clear of algae. This year I decided to try without. I had no algae until mid August and over last 6 weeks it started as a thin rim on the very edge and grew gradually to about 2-3' around the edge. Since it stayed at about 10% or less of pond surface I left it alone.



This year the algae seemed to be different. It was massively tenacious, stringy and much more lime green than the typical darker green of algae from other years. In other years I could rake it with my landscape rake, then tip the rake, shake a bit and it would slide off, and then go at it again. This afternoon I decided to get to raking it. It was amazing, stringy, tenacious, every pull I had to pull it up on the bank (HEAVY) then bend over and lift big matts of stringy stuff over the end of the rake and pull it down off the tines and leave it in a mass on the ground. I don't wish this kind of FA on anyone! I was told that FA floats because it is dead and air traps under it. This stuff seems amazingly alive to me smile







After going around the pond once, I touched up the bottom on the 2nd go round. The black nasty stuff that was laying on the bottom under the green FA was raked out and left a nasty smell. There must have been an anoxic layer under the FA. Glad to get that on the shore to dry, and later to be raked and carted off.

Painful on the back, but one advantage I keep reminding myself of is that I'm removing hundreds of pounds of 'nutrients' from the pond which should be to my advantage at some point.

But the other advantage is that I could see all the critters in the algae. I caught a few 2-3" goldfish in their natural drab (nice fat bodies, almost like like golden shiners but much more fat bodied. They are going to be perfect snacks for the predators when they get in the pond next year!) A few baby RES and a few baby perch. Lots and lots of polywogs (see picture below, can someone identify are these bullfrog tadpoles?)



Still raking in a fair number of invasive chinese snails. A few adult frogs were hanging out in the algae and one turtle got raked out of his submerged home and looked at me like what in the world, where am I? Then went back to the pond again.

And also was very delighted to catch something I thought was long gone. See below....







At least ONE PK SHRIMP survived smile smile Another reason to keep a little algae around for a hiding place.

So, I would recommend to others that 10% or less coverage of FA is not so bad. Tons of refuge for tiny critters, tiny fish, frogs, turtles, young perch, etc. Surprised but even a 5" goldfish was right at shore and had to swim under about 2' of FA to get where I got to him.

Since tilapia weren't eating FA this year, and no sight of crayfish and I can't trap a single one, I'm wondering if maybe the goldfish are eating my algae or plants? I know my father in law wanted a few of my goldfish in his waterfall fountain. His fountain is only about 3' deep and he can watch them sucking algae off all the rocks in his fountain. (of course there is nothing else for them to eat either...)

Also this year lots of young LCS and shiners, didn't have that last year. Either my stocked fish are big enough this spring to finally have offspring, or the tilapia (absent this year) were eating the eggs since both LCS and shiners broadcast their eggs.

With clean edges the kids can now run their remote control boat in the pond without getting caught in the algae so they are happy too smile

Water level is down about 6" when the weather has been fairly wet. Still happy with results of my 2nd soil floc application but I haven't tracked the levels with a ruler so can't say exactly how it is faring. I just know that winter is coming and I'd like clean edges and will pump it full right before ice-in.

Handraking has its benefits. Just glad my pond isn't bigger than it is. I wouldn't want to rake a 1+ acre pond smile
Posted by: L's Pond

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/08/16 09:46 PM

Today a walked across the middle of my 1/2 acre pond. No I'm not the 2nd coming. The water has been resceding all summer. It's our 2nd summer with the property an this is the lowest the old pond has been. There's a ridge that runs down the middle and the water was only about 10" deep. On one side of the ridge there's a bowl about 4' deep right now and all of our bigger fish are there. On the other side most of it is 12" deep with a few spots 2-3' deep. This is a weekend home for us, but.this was a really sad sight to see. I need to figure out why we're losing water and what needs to be done to fix it. The pond is 40 hrs old and I don't think it's been cleaned out since. There are two tree stumps out on that ridge about 30" in diameter so they've been there a while. Hadn't seen them before. We've got a ton of trees in and around the pond. 30-40 yr old pines growing on our dam. I need to figure out the best and most affordable way to fix the water retention issue. Our property is near Cleveland Tx, does anyone have someone they can reccomend in our area? I'll try to attach some pictures.
Posted by: L's Pond

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/08/16 09:55 PM

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Posted by: L's Pond

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/08/16 09:57 PM

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/09/16 12:21 PM

Harvested three CC from the night before and had them in the holding pen. Sister-in-law was over helping the wife with some stuff so I cleaned them and gave her the fillets.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/09/16 06:42 PM

My wife and I caught some LSL LMB, CC, GSF, and BG all on artificial. I haven't seen any CC in a while. I did not expect them to hit a white curl tail jig. They are getting to be about 17" lg. I stocked them in July/2015 at 4" lg. I'll need to start removing fish soon.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/09/16 09:20 PM

I caught a number of CC on a curl tail jig last year. It is surprising how the CC will nail a moving bait. Will give quite a fight on a light rig for catching BG.

I rarely actually fish for CC. My wife does that (she can knit while the bait sits on the bottom). I'm always fishing for BG and still will catch the CC, especially if I let the jig get near the bottom. Caught one 2-3# tonight but got it up to the bank in 2" of water and it flipped the jig out (I mash the barbs down) and off it went. Caught a couple of 6-8" CC on that jig with the Gulp bait also.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 07:02 AM

L's Pond; With that many trees around and in the pond, plus those on the dam, it is probably start over time.
Posted by: RER

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 08:45 AM

Scooped out some GAMS that got in the front yard forage pond. My be a losing battle but I will keep at it. I think I am down to one or two left.
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 10:08 AM

We put away all of the swimming and playing gear for the Winter, but could not get the float raft out. It is down too deep, and I fear the pond will freeze before the water level comes up enough to pull it out. Wishing I had a tractor with a bucket!

It may be harvest time for the Koi, they are making a mess of the water quality and I worry about reproduction since I have a bass-free pond.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 10:40 AM

This past weekend me and a buddy hooked up a couple of video cameras that I can now watch from my i-phone. Simple cordless system for dummies like me..lol...does not need electricity...they state the new high tech chip that operates this camera allows two small AA Lithium batteries to last at least 6 months. I am still learning about what all it does as far as recording and motion detection. I started with two cameras to see how it works. Purchasing two cameras it came out to about $84 for each camera, less if you buy more. It may not be a perfect system, but a fun "easy to use and install" toy for me. I've got these first 2 cameras inside the cabin pointing outward so sometimes there is a slight glare, but I love being able to take a quick peek and watch live video at the property from my office or home in Dallas.





BLINK - Wireless WiFi Cameras
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 11:31 AM

I didn't fish much, but had some people over on Saturday for hubby's 50th birthday. One guy wanted to fish. I left him my scale and told him to cull lm under 95%. He hollared up at me a few minutes later wanting to know how big a bluegill I had caught from the pond. He had one on the scale weighing 1lb 2oz. He released it with out a picture! It beat my record bg by 3oz. Happy for him, wish I had seen it.

I also replaced a trolling motor. The used one that was gifted to me shot craps. The speed control switch was all melted into a blob. With the other little things wrong with it, I just got another one.

But, I am off today (Bank jobs rock) so may get a chance to hit it later today. Maybe I can get a new bg record.
Posted by: peachgrower

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 02:11 PM

Repaired a John Deere 650J for a friend last week. A rat had eaten up the wiring harness. So after a lot of solder, tape, and wire we got it going again way cheaper than the John Deere tech. They get $125 an hour from the time they leave to when they get back. They are 45 mins from here. Serviced it also, so after we were done I told him all you owe me is a week or so of the dozer at my house. He said that sounds great! So I have been working on my levee, wanted to flatten the water side angle a bit. It was just to steep. Also worked on the road over the top of it some. Looks alot better. The west bank needed the same, few steep spots so I can bush hog them, so that bugs me. There a few terraces left in the field that hold back some of my water shed...not much, but every bit helps. Lastly I am going to dig out the spring that is on the south side. It runs when the weather is wet, but is probably 3-4 higher in elevation than the pond. Its 75-100 feet south of the pond, but right in line and in a low spot. My pond is really low right now, so I'm going to build a creek of sorts I guess. I'm going to dig an 8' wide trench from the spring to where the water level is now. That way when the spring is flowing it will flow for a lot longer as it will be deeper. Wish I had the money just to dig a well right there and pump it into the pond! lol
Posted by: Chris Steelman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/16 03:55 PM

Stocked some HSB and feed trained LMB this weekend from Overtons and then did a little fishing on Saturday. The CNBG was one I stocked back in May at 2-3". I'd say the largest CNBG are 6-7" now.










Posted by: Rainman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By: liquidsquid
We put away all of the swimming and playing gear for the Winter, but could not get the float raft out. It is down too deep, and I fear the pond will freeze before the water level comes up enough to pull it out. Wishing I had a tractor with a bucket!

It may be harvest time for the Koi, they are making a mess of the water quality and I worry about reproduction since I have a bass-free pond.


I will be draining a Church's pond and removing Koi that have spawned a few times now. I'd cleared it with Alum, and informed the powers that be, the Koi would likely stir it right back up. Sadly, I was right. Now the church (and the pond budget) doesn't like Koi quite so much!
Posted by: chambers270

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 08:21 AM

I just looked at mine today, after the Hurricane it is at full pool after being dug this July! I am ready for fish now!
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 08:56 AM

Finished bush-hogging the 15 or so open acres we have. Taught Jodi to use the tractor to do the cutting in open areas, i.e. not around trees and steep slopes. That left me free to do the most physically challenging job and that is trimming the inside of the damn dam. I use a regular weed-eater to do the 2 feet closest to the water then a high-wheel trimmer to do the top of the dam... today, my back feels every push and pull of that thing but, at least, that job won't need to be done until June-July next year.

Jodi found time to catch 8 more LMB, mostly < 12" but one that was about 1.5 lbs. She like to catch the little guys and that's good by me. Now we've caught about 10 lbs this year in the 1 acre pond but I want to catch about 5 lbs more.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 09:06 AM

Chris, are you feeding the LMB Optimal?
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 09:22 AM

It's more like what I did this week @ the pond. I fished for LLB for the first time since last June and lost one when she jumped and landed another. I just wanted to get a look. I don't want to get them hook shy so I am trying to hold off fishing for them until they are in the 6 to 8# range. Fish looked to be in the 13" size and I could not believe how heavy she was. Did not weigh her but she felt like she had been eating lead. I would bet she was in the 150 rw range. I've been brush hoggin and planting winter wheat, elbon Rye and clover around the pond and hoping for some rain, the pond is down about two feet. I have been careful about running well water due to past experience's killing some nice cnbg earlier, most likely due to low DO. And have had no rain since early August. Learning diffusers increase evaporation. I need some fall rains. Almost forgot to mention, I picked up another 30-10" HSB from Todd Overton's and he checked the Alk. and water hardness from my ponds water sample. One last thing, I learned I can kill cnbg by overfeeding. Thanks Todd for your suggestion, no more dead cnbg.


Tracy
Posted by: Bill Cody

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 09:54 AM

Zep - the low cost, cordless remote view video cameras will be a big benefit to many members. Would you or someone start a new thread with this as the main topic?
Posted by: Chris Steelman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 10:15 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Chris, are you feeding the LMB Optimal?


I just have the BG food right now. If the LMB feed will run through my Texas Hunter feeder I'll probably get some next year.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 05:56 PM

ah...one downside to the new cams at the pond is now I am watching the herons stalking my shoreline!

Do they make a web-cam that fires rubber bullets?
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/16 06:42 PM

Mark,

Yes they do!!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/16 06:52 AM

sounds interesting Brian!


Posted by: wbuffetjr

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/16 07:12 AM

I wish I had enough service at my place to watch a web cam!
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/16 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Chris Steelman
Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Chris, are you feeding the LMB Optimal?


I just have the BG food right now. If the LMB feed will run through my Texas Hunter feeder I'll probably get some next year.


Chris, yes it does. Without any problems. Set the spin plate to the factory setting (which is 3/8") and you are good.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/16 10:05 AM

Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
I wish I had enough service at my place to watch a web cam!


I can already tell you it is highly addictive.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/17/16 07:14 PM

A few weeks ago we moved the sludge and clay dug out of our pond last year, as it had dried enough. We hired a very small dozer with wide tracks that didn't sink into the still sticky parts underneath. Had the clay and sludge pushed up against the back slope of the new part of the dam and smoothed and tapered. The back slope there now has about a 5:1 slope on the SE end gradually tapering toward the spillway on the NE end to an excess of 10:1 slope. It makes the pond have the appearance of a totally dug out pond when approached from the east or NE. It is going to be very easy to mow next year compared to most of this year, and no danger of the new part of the dam blowing out.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/17/16 08:30 PM

That will be a nice improvement John.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/23/16 06:12 PM

Loaded the feeder with Cargill 1/8", 3/16", and 1/4" pellets. Then, backed the feed times down to 4 seconds twice daily. The fish seem to feed heavier around noon time in this cooler weather than earlier or later...
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/09/16 10:42 PM

Them leaves are late but finally falling... I can't keep up with trying to net or rake them out. I'll have to think of an idea come spring to suction them off the bottom.. or maybe I can find a way to suck them up, run them through a chopping blade to 'mulch' them and let them sink again to improve surface area for bacteria to work on them?

Others say they have lots of leaves falling in the pond and just let them be? Doesn't that add to the muck layer quite quickly?



Posted by: For the Family

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/09/16 10:49 PM

What about a rope and some pool noodles? Tie one end to a stake on the bank and pull it around from one side and loop around back to the stake. Net out the leaves floating near the bank. Just an idea.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/16 08:29 AM

Buy a 2' or 3' deep seine with 1"-1 1/2" mesh that is roughly 10' longer than your pond is wide. It'll take at least 2 people to pull it, but you can get all the leaves in one or two passes while they are floating.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/16 12:02 PM

great ideas. I have a 100' seine which with some extension ropes covers the width of the pond fairly closely while the operator stands on shore. The mesh is tighter though (3/8" maybe?) I need to get another strong adult over to help do this. You need to keep up on it almost every day!

I do wonder though how fast they degrade or why some don't worry about it like I do. Several posted about natural ponds deep in a forest that take direct leaf falls for years naturally and don't 'fill in'.

With a few windy days the floating leaves tend to congregate on one side of the other and then sink along that edge. if I could just get them to blow or seine into one side I don't mind raking out the edges in the spring. I tend to have to rake a lot of nasty stuff in the spring anyway. It is the ones in the middle that I wonder how fast they accumulate.


spring piles after raking....
Posted by: bassmaster61

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/16 03:12 PM

Nice pond!! The setting looks like a water hazard at The Masters!! BM61
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/16 09:09 AM

With the smaller mesh you will be picking out fish. Larger mesh will let smaller fish swim thru, maybe "gill" medium sized fish and retain larger fish.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/05/16 03:54 PM

A friend of mine brought me a pheasant yesterday as a belated birthday gift and I threw it up on the cabin wall. Pheasant sure are pretty birds.

Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/05/16 04:51 PM

Looks great....!!!
Posted by: weekender

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/09/16 10:26 PM

Adjusted aerator and feeder settings....I hope I got it right. Threw two hand fulls of food and not a creature was a stirring.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/10/16 06:40 AM

I replaced the battery for the first time in my TH feeder. It was 18 months old. Cut the feeding back to near half what I was feeding. Also have been otter hunting. There are two in my pond!! Fish still feeding strong or normal for this time of year. Water temp is 54,clarity 20 inches. Saw my first duck of the year on the pond yesterday morning,but also saw otter and gbh!! Yug!! Weekender,how big is your pond and what visibility do you have with aeriation this time of year? How old are your fish? Is your pond low? We are still 2 foot low on my 2 acre BOW.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/11/16 09:51 PM

Found some dead and almost dead Tilapia in shallow water today....

Coons and birds will probably throw a buffet party this week.



Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/11/16 10:50 PM

Zep, if ya can spear them things in the head or net em, have a good fry. It bums me every fall to see those nice fish go to the bottom of the pond instead of to the bottom of my belly.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/16 07:17 PM

Haven't seen any floaters yet..... Can't be too long
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/16 07:52 PM

We made a run to Overtons today, and picked up our RBT. Poor little babies have no clue how short their live expectancy is.

Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/16 08:56 PM

very nice AL...(that's what I'd have to do too to get around the minimum for delivery...Tbar and I discussed splitting an order)...you may have to re-name your pond the "Hog Pen" after those trout are digested!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/23/16 07:10 AM

Mark, I didn't get enough to really pack pounds on my LMB, but I did get enough to evaluate the possibilities. I know I say it a lot, but with 11 ares of water, it always boils down to location, location, location. Whatever I can try to keep CNBG and LMB is areas I want, I'll do.

Most of the RBT went into the brood pound in my attempt to put 3-4" on them before March when their survivability gets iffy. We did release one 10" golden RBT at the dam feeder, and he/she made it 10' before the explosion hit. Our winter time fun just got amped up.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/23/16 08:00 AM

Al, I am glad you are posting about the trout and please continue to keep us in the loop. Todd and I discussed the trout, he asked if I was ready but I thought next year would be a better year for trout stocking. Right now my lmb mouth gape is small and I would need 4 to 6" trout. But next year. smile
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/23/16 08:50 AM

Tracy, will do. I need to do a year end update for the brood pond anyway, so I'll post RBT updates there.

I'm pretty sure this won't be something we do every year, but the all the stars aligned for us this year for a big push. Coontail under control so a big jump in our CNBG recruitment, high tilapia stockings over the last 2 years to take pressure off those newly minted CNBG, and the golden months of January and February for LMB. IMHO, there's no better time of the year to catch that largest LMB of the year.

Because of all that, I like to think of the RBT addition as target forage. I don't want to feed all my LMB, just the larger lazy egg laden one's.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/16 03:01 PM

Today I made my annual Post Christmas cover run. My experience is that box stores are happy to get rid of them. Picked these up at Lowe's today, and they had to charge me for them. 50 cents a piece. I normally get 2-3 years out of them before they need to be replenished.



Heron love trout, I hate herons. I put up my barrier today after seeing a GBH fly away from the brood pond.

Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/16 04:23 PM

Al,

Neat idea on source of trees! I've had some in for a couple years now and they don't seem to be deteriorating very fast. Maybe it's the super high alkalinity of our pond water?

I like your heron fence as well. What did you use for posts? Why did you tilt them towards the water? Is that bird netting?
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/16 05:26 PM

Al will know for sure but his posts look like the 1/4" diameter, 48" posts folks use to mark driveways for snowplowing. They have the reflective tape at the top which works great at night when trying to find your driveway in a snowstorm..

You can find 100 packs for about 75 cents a piece on ebay and if you get more than 100 they get cheaper yet. They come in blue, yellow, orange, green etc. I found my orange ones seemed to fade and deteriorate pretty quickly after a season in the sun. They also give nasty splinters when they split (fiberglass). I bought yellow ones for my driveway instead of orange this year just to see if they hold up better in the sun.

Usually they have a blunt bottom but the ones I got this year happened to have the bottoms tapered to a semi-point which helps me push them in by hand. I find they are very useful as a marker in the woods (the orange or yellow ones catch your eye from a distance) and are very helpful for putting up temporary fencing like above.

When they splinter (usually at the ground level from the snow pushing against them) I take a hacksaw to the splintered part and save the shorter ones for stakes in the garden when I plant my rows and before the seeds or tiny plants are easily visible.

very handy to have a few around. I store them in a section of 4" thin wall PVC cut at about 42" (with the bottom closed off with one of those caps that has the small holes in for drainage) that I had laying around as they don't tend to stay in one place when you try to stack 100 of them in the corner smile

I bet his idea will work fabulous for keeping the GBH out!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/16 05:46 PM

Bill, it may be. I don't like the Christmas trees as well as cedars, but it sure is nice to have twenty somethings helping you load the trailer. Much better than cutting cedars out of fence rows all day.

Thanks Bill. IIRC, Cecil Baird had posted something like this or very similar. I thought it had merit, so I've been doing it the last 3 years.

For the posts, I use the $2 orange roadway markers. They're fiberglass, and wont break unless you try to. I tilted them in so the heron won't stand on the bottom on the pond side. It also helps keep them working when the water fluctuates.

It's just the cheapest 4'X50' plastic fencing I could get. It's got a 1" mesh, so I keep the bottom out of the water. It's rare, but it can catch smaller fish by the gills. Oh, zero herons when these are out.

Also, if you stand the fencing straight up, it's great in the fall for catching leaves before they get in the pond.

EDIT: canyoncreek, I'd pay $75 for a hundred in a heart beat. We use a lot of them around here. Thanks for that info.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/16 06:51 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I use those stakes during the winter to mark the driveway for snow removal. I might just have to give it a try. I think that could be a good geese deterrent as well as GBH! smile
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 12:50 PM

I should have gone and pick up some Christmas trees the past couple of days but a dr apt interrupted me from doing so. But I did sneak in a few hrs of cnbg fishing and let me tell you, the size of some of those bg were the largest I have ever caught.. Caught on a blue and white skirt crappie jig with a road runner head on ultra light tackle using braded line. Surface water temp was 62 degrees. Sorry no pics, I don't keep my phone in my pocket in the pond boat. the pond has one of my phones already
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 12:50 PM

So I got all the trees drilled, and the rope added. These are ready to be put out.


6 new brush piles started, and 3 old ones reloaded. 4 hours, and less than $100 for pipe, t posts, and trees.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Bill, it may be. I don't like the Christmas trees as well as cedars, but it sure is nice to have twenty somethings helping you load the trailer. Much better than cutting cedars out of fence rows all day.

Thanks Bill. IIRC, Cecil Baird had posted something like this or very similar. I thought it had merit, so I've been doing it the last 3 years.

For the posts, I use the $2 orange roadway markers. They're fiberglass, and wont break unless you try to. I tilted them in so the heron won't stand on the bottom on the pond side. It also helps keep them working when the water fluctuates.

It's just the cheapest 4'X50' plastic fencing I could get. It's got a 1" mesh, so I keep the bottom out of the water. It's rare, but it can catch smaller fish by the gills. Oh, zero herons when these are out.

Also, if you stand the fencing straight up, it's great in the fall for catching leaves before they get in the pond.

EDIT: canyoncreek, I'd pay $75 for a hundred in a heart beat. We use a lot of them around here. Thanks for that info.



I'll attach a link to probably the biggest online seller. You can buy 50, 100, 200 or even 4000 at a time in any color or a multi-color pack. If you buy WITHOUT the reflective tape they are about 50 cents a piece when bought in bulk.

I have no connection to the seller but just know price is right when you buy them at volume discount. Like you, I find all kinds of uses for them smile

Stakemaker1
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 02:22 PM

Did you remove the old ones Al or just stack more on top?? How deep of water are they in??
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 04:02 PM

I just keep stacking til they can't take anymore.

We're still low from the summer, so when the pond fills back up this spring these should be in 5-6' of water. They're very easy to reload from a boat. I try to set posts in fall or winter when the water's lower, so I can just walk out to drive them in. The posts are not particularly attractive to look at, but it's a very easy way to add and maintain natural cover.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 04:32 PM

Al,

I'm trying to understand the process. I think you drive posts into the pond bottom and then loosely tie the trees to the posts? What makes them sink, the weight of another tree on top?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 05:38 PM

Bill, here is the original thread.

http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=28633&Number=367249

What I do is drive the t posts down about 3', then just slide a piece of pipe over that. I want to make sure the ropes don't get cut by rubbing on the t posts. I'll cut them off if we hit the emergency spillway this spring. 6" over that level is about right.

I keep the rope loose, and I've found that when they sink, they lay on their side and hold the others above it up. When I quit seeing the smaller limbs, I just add to them. I'm effectively getting a 10' to 12' diameter chia pet.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 06:07 PM

Thanks Al. Now I understand. Pretty dang cool!
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/16 07:35 PM

Nice work Allen, very nice indeed.

Its almost like you have done that before.
Posted by: teehjaeh57

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/29/16 01:58 AM

I love everything about this project - a true model of efficiency. Well done, Al.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/03/17 04:52 PM

Had a good time at the property Saturday...

Finally caught an albino cat on a trot-line from the cat only pond.


Found the perfect wall decor to over-come
where HVAC tech mounted thermostat:



New Years Eve bonfire and fireworks....
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/03/17 08:00 PM

Albino cats are cool and I like your fire pit.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/03/17 09:11 PM

Zep, you did great on trying to disguise the thermostat. A few other ideas. Behind that thermostat they installed a very wide trim plate. That plate is included for when they have to hide defects in the wall or a different color paint that is showing when they take an old thermostat out and put in a new one. You can easily remove that large trim ring and just use the actual thermostat itself. The smaller size of the thermostat might fit nicely in the recess in the state of texas map there if you lower the mounted location an inch or so too smile

Those thermostats come in a variety of colors. The silver or gold colored ones might look sharp!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/03/17 10:13 PM

Yeah snrub i think albino cats are unique...maybe something a kid has never seen before...and they would remember a long time.

Now that the project is mostly done I hope to see more of the firepit and albino cats.

canyoncreek...that trim-ring is actually my fault...I had them put it there to avoid fingerprints over time on the drywall, but you are correct it may fit better without it and I will take a look at the gold and silver versions...have never seen those. thanks
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/17 08:41 AM

Mark, still loving the fire pit. I could spend hours there.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/17 08:50 AM

I grew up with the gold version everywhere. I see now you can get them on ebay but they are considered 'vintage' and command very high prices ($100 plus). It probably is easier to keep things as is or for about $5 you can get a rattle can of any kind of gold or silver paint, flat finish, metallic, hammered finish, sparkly, etc and make it any color you want. Or, perhaps just as easy to get a little throw away foam brush and take the left over wall paint and paint the thermostat the wall color and it will pretty much fade out of sight.

You might also consider a simple programmable digital thermostat too to save on energy when you don't need tight control of temperatures.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/17 10:58 AM

Al....we gotta roast some marshmellows!

canyoncreek....I am old-school on thermostats...don't really like the fancy thermostats...give me a "Thermostat For Dummies" any day...lol. The cabins are so small they cool and heat quickly. I can't tell you how many guys have seen my new Honeywell simple digital thermostats and said "I wish mine was that simple". On Amazon I am not seeing the different colors for the digital model I have at home and the cabin.

Honeywell - Non-Programable - Thermostats
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/17 11:27 AM

Yep, the old school analog thermostats (was there a bubble of mercury or liquid silver in there?) came in the gold/silver variety. They probably were a hazard of some type.

The round digital version you have only comes in white. So, rattle can, or paint it with a foam brush to match your wall color or just leave it as is. smile
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/06/17 09:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Had a good time at the property Saturday...

Finally caught an albino cat on a trot-line from the cat only pond.


Found the perfect wall decor to over-come
where HVAC tech mounted thermostat:



New Years Eve bonfire and fireworks....


Nice......!!!
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/06/17 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
So I got all the trees drilled, and the rope added. These are ready to be put out.


6 new brush piles started, and 3 old ones reloaded. 4 hours, and less than $100 for pipe, t posts, and trees.


Wow.....I need to do something like this.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/06/17 10:44 AM

We got half an inch of snow, temp about 12 degrees F, and pond is half covered with new ice.
Posted by: beastman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/06/17 12:37 PM

Technically yesterday...but with a couple inches of snow the kids did some sledding off the dam's hillside...pond is probably 4-5 ft deep right now, need to get the dock installed ASAP... Need to figure out how to post pictures in the post w/o link...Pond looks nice with snow all around and not mud and clay...
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/17 08:24 AM

A first for me this morning. Looking out at ducks swimming around in open water on our big pond. It's easy got 7-8 acres of ice covering it.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/17 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
A first for me this morning. It's easy got 7-8 acres of ice covering it.


at least one picture Al!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/17 10:30 AM

Here you go Mark. The sliver of open water's on the far side of the pond. Southeast corner to be exact.

Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/17 11:26 AM

Snowmagedon and now icemagedon, sure hope this is not the end of the world a we know it.

Nice picture, I always love a good sunrise picture, its a fresh start.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/17 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: beastman
Technically yesterday...but with a couple inches of snow the kids did some sledding off the dam's hillside...pond is probably 4-5 ft deep right now, need to get the dock installed ASAP... Need to figure out how to post pictures in the post w/o link...Pond looks nice with snow all around and not mud and clay...


Even if you get the outtermost or as many of the posts set as you can, you will be way ahead of the game compared to building the whole thing in a full pond. I would at least try to get the post set while you have dry ground.
Posted by: PO

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/17 12:24 PM

Haven't posted in a while, been busy with family/work and and having fun. Hope this isn't to long, but thought it was very interesting so I tried it today. One of the ladies my wife has worked with for years, told my wife the first of December that her boyfriend and her bought 2 cut Christmas trees at local Rural King. They put one in house and kept it watered. The other they planted in their front yard. She told my wife that her brother-in -law has done this in past with the trees he used for his Christmas tree (6 years worth). I drove by the ladies house and seen the new tree and it looks great in her yard(green as can be and healthy looking). So by accident I was tell the guys at work about it and no one ever heard of doing it except for one guy, and he said that's funny you mentioned this replanting of Christmas trees because when I took my kids to buy our tree this year at the tree farm where you buy already cut or cut your own trees he asked the owner what he did with the cut trees he didn't sell. His answer was (I replant them) so my mind got thinking and I told my son to save his tree I wanted to try it this year. So we are going to get about 5 days of rain here in Indiana next few days so I just planted the tree he gave me(it has been sitting in about 6 inches of water at ponds edge since week after Christmas. I think they look great around pond landscape since they put no leaves in pond in fall. Just thought this was very interesting, because if it works I can get all I want free after Christmas each year and already 5 to 7 feet tall. I will post about every couple months on how tree is doing. Worth a try to me. PO
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/19/17 06:50 PM

I set out 4 body grip traps and 2 leg grip traps today in an attempt to catch another beaver. Had caught one last year, but I guess my troubles are not over with regards to beavers. I was standing near the bank the other day and a beaver surfaced about 4' from me. I don't know who jumped higher, the beaver or me....ha! Anyway, I can't afford having her dig holes in my levee.

Hand fed 3 different sizes of Triton (Cargill) fish pellets from the dock. It's very interesting that the 3 distinct sizes of fish will hit the 3 distinct sizes of pellets only, directly proportional in size.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/19/17 08:43 PM

Sounds neat PO. Keep it coming.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 09:07 AM

Well here is what we did this weekend.

Made a nice home made cedar gun rack in the cabin closet complete with ammo shelf and area for your binoculars.



Then we set a new platform for the new stationary dock we are going to build while the water is down so it can get nice and setup. The new dock is going to be 4x16 walkway with a 8x12 deck attached to the end of the walkway. Cant wait to get it done!!!



RC
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 01:10 PM

Very nice, RC!!!
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 02:10 PM

Thanks Stick it took 13 / 80lbs bags of concrete to make that slab and we had quite a bit of filler rocks... I forgot how much fun mixing 80 bags of concrete is. lol It wasn't easy but it will be well worth it. Were gonna make the entire dock out of 2x6 treated lumber. Course the posts will be galvanized posts with adjustable dock sleeves to raise and lower the dock as needed. I for sure will take pics as we go and post them...

RC
Posted by: MNFISH2

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 02:27 PM

This morning, on the ice, in the pouring rain! Minnesota 2/20/2017 and I had to wear rain gear. Weird weather.

As a neighborhood joke, when it stops raining, I may pull out the lawn tractor and make it look like I'm cutting the grass. That should confirm to my neighbors how nuts I am. laugh
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: RC51
Thanks Stick it took 13 / 80lbs bags of concrete to make that slab and we had quite a bit of filler rocks... I forgot how much fun mixing 80 bags of concrete is. lol It wasn't easy but it will be well worth it. Were gonna make the entire dock out of 2x6 treated lumber. Course the posts will be galvanized posts with adjustable dock sleeves to raise and lower the dock as needed. I for sure will take pics as we go and post them...

RC


RC,
I feel you...that's what it took (13) to pour the slab for the pump house (except mine were 50's not 80's). Yes, I mixed in a wheel barrow with a shovel and a garden rake. It came out decent, but man, that's some work by hand. Well, you did an impressive job. The dock is gonna be nice when completed. Hope you post some pics.
stickem'
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 04:49 PM

I did a 13 bagger (80 lbs each) slab, mixing in a wheelbarrow, in the spring of 2014 to fix a broken sidewalk. It was HARD work, but turned out well.
Posted by: chambers270

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/17 08:41 PM

Overachievers, I just threw out some optimal jr to my 2-3 inch BG. This week however I would like to fill in 2 washouts from the last bad storm that dropped 8 in of rain in one afternoon.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/23/17 02:46 PM

Yes I will post pics for sure! We already have all the dock hardware we just have to start buying the wood. I would say we will start probably second week in March or so.

RC
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/25/17 07:43 AM

Too cold and windy today. Great time in Indy to visit the Deer, Turkey, and Waterfowl Expo, and the Boat, Sport, and Travel Show with the family. I am expecting it to be crowded though.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/25/17 09:17 AM

I think I've already lost my mountain man cred this morning.

My wife spotted an otter(first we've ever seen here) bolting across the hay meadow towards the big pond this morning. I'm sure I was quite the sight running across the pasture in my PJ's and house shoes, trying to cut him off with a shotgun we leave by the front door.

We've got the beavers handled around here, but I guess a new adventure starts today.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/25/17 10:14 AM

Well Al did ya get it?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/25/17 10:32 AM

Pat, I busted him twice, but he kept going. I didn't have a heart attack when I was chasing him, so I'll call it kind of a win for me.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/25/17 10:04 PM

I hear ya there! If I could just find a way to sneak up on the bunch of anhingas and convince them that they don't want to eat my fish
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/27/17 07:03 PM

Checked my body grip and leg grip traps for my "other" beaver...no luck so far. I think I found the beaver den down a nearby creek in the wall of the bank downstream from my dam. Will move one of the body grip traps and cover the entry hole...force that rascal to go through it.

Tried to hand feed, but the fish wouldn't have it. The water was 56 degrees.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/05/17 04:44 PM

Checked the traps......still no beaver. Hand fed some pellets today. The fish hit it pretty aggressively. The water was 55 degrees.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/05/17 06:41 PM

Hey Charlie,

I might have missed it. Why do you suspect you still have a beaver? Active dam building on the creek?
Posted by: FayetteTX

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/05/17 08:53 PM

Measured the water depth and checked on the grass on the dam.

We've made tremendous progress over the last few months. Got the pond built/expanded and I now have 3' of water as of yesterday!! I ordered my forage fish and 2 TX Hunter feeders. Praying for more rain!!

In early Dec we planted cereal rye and unhulled bermuda seed. The objective was for the rye to come up early and the Bermuda once it warms up. We've had crazy weather with temps down to the low 20's not long after the rye came up and then temps in the upper 80's last week. I've got grass growing but not as thick as I expected.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/05/17 08:57 PM

Seeded the dam on the new pond with annual rye. Rolled it in with a lawn roller. We are predicted to get a little rain tomorrow. It's as dry as I have EVER seen it for this time of year. We haven't had a good rain in over seven months...only little ones now and then.

Hand fed some sinking pellets for the CC. Yesterday, stocked about 45-47 six to eight inch CC into the new pond.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/05/17 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Hey Charlie,

I might have missed it. Why do you suspect you still have a beaver? Active dam building on the creek?


Bill,
Other than the familiar grass clippings in the water and mashed down area at the waters edge, the beaver surfaced about 4' from me at the waters' edge earlier this year.
Charlie
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/13/17 08:20 PM

Went up to he farm today to check on the house, fix a flat on my tractor, and cut a driveway for the 40' conex container coming in this week. I made a pass around the pond to check the beaver traps.....no luck. I can watch at a distance and the ponds surface is perfectly calm. It's amazing how the fish will start breaking the waters' surface when the tractor drives up. Funny, how that is.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/13/17 10:01 PM

Dey jus hongry Charlie.... feed um bud
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/17 06:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Dey jus hongry Charlie.... feed um bud


....seems like dey always hongry, Bud!!!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/17 07:40 PM

I took just a small amount of feed out just to see if there were any takers. Water too cold yet to really feed much, but just wanted to see if there was any activity. Did not really expect any.

For the most part there was not. But two areas around the pond had a number of nice, big BG give a fair amount of activity after the feed.

I think once it warms up in the next few days after this cold spell passes it will be "feed on" again for 2017.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/17 09:26 PM

Big day. Got my dock installed by the intrepid Overton team! Quite an undertaking, my wife and I got to watch. Thanks, guys.

Walt Overton noted that, unlike last year, the water has a greenish tinge. pH 6.5, hardness & alkalinity in the 40s, all decent though not great. Last year pH consistently around 5.5.

Anyway, should be able to fertilize in a couple of weeks of warm weather. I hope we can place some artificial & natural habitat in the lake by that time, but it depends on how many helpers I can recruit.

Pleasantly surprised to discover that my forage pond is about 80 percent full. Unlike the main BOW, it has no constant source of water, just the rain. Never been limed, so pH is only 6.0. Walt suggested I put some lime in it before stocking CNBG. Right now it is a frog & tadpole haven.

Next step: Pond King Pro boat. The stability (I have very active grandkids) was a big selling point, as is the fact it can be left out in the weather without harm. Hope they deliver soon!

PS I'm feeding two seconds a day, but haven't seen any takers yet. Hopefully that will change soon with warmer weather.





Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/17 09:38 PM

Congrats!!! Pictures please
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/17 08:02 AM

Frank, it's good to hear your pH and alk is moving in the right direction. I bet its looking good.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/17 09:24 AM

My fish are just starting to eat again after the flood. I had my brother sink the habitat and pull out some of the tree limbs that washed into the pond. The FA has vanished from the surface, but I know it will probably return with a vengeance.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/17 09:55 AM

This past few days I have been adding brush piles along the shorelines. My pond has zero vegetation and so I needed some thick cover along the shoreline, places where the newborn fish might hide to survive. I have been using 10 to 15' cedar trees, 7' bamboo tied in bundles and 7' willows tied in bundles. 10 brush pies so far with a few more to add this week. Plans are to mix and match them and build a thick places for them to hide for better lmb, cnbg and res recruitment this spring.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/17 01:16 PM

Yesterday evening I just sat and took in all the little sounds. Frogs, birds, fish popping the surface. Etc.

There is a family that lives 1/4 mile away and I could hear kids laughing and playing. I fell asleep in my adirondack chair only to have my wife tap me on the shoulder to tell me supper was ready.

Pretty peaceful.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/17 02:37 PM

That paints a pretty picture farmallsc! I just noticed the spring peeper frogs at my pond the other day even though there is only a foot or two of water in the pond, the frogs are showing up. Pretty peaceful indeed.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/17 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
This past few days I have been adding brush piles along the shorelines. My pond has zero vegetation and so I needed some thick cover along the shoreline, places where the newborn fish might hide to survive. I have been using 10 to 15' cedar trees, 7' bamboo tied in bundles and 7' willows tied in bundles. 10 brush pies so far with a few more to add this week. Plans are to mix and match them and build a thick places for them to hide for better lmb, cnbg and res recruitment this spring.


Good for you, Tracy! I'm in the same boat (no pun intended) with my pond, zero submerged vegetation, so will try brushpiles & artificial structure.

Impressed that you are mixing cedars, bamboo and willows. My stuff will mostly be sweet gum with brush.

By the way, do you intend to use GPS to locate your brushpiles, or perhaps mark it some other way?

Really looking forward to fertilizing enough to get a bloom. Never came close to happening last year, too acidic. Will also try putting some lime in the main feeder creek.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/17 06:36 AM

Anthropic, I used duck decoys at every piece of structure I submerged. Works great ,don't look bad, and has brought a few live ducks in. Just a thought. Bought a big bag of them at a garage sale for less than $2 each.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/17 07:13 AM

Hay there Frank, to explain about the brush piles, they are along the shoreline where they can be seen so no need to mark them. This is to give cover for the fingerlings, giving them a better chance at survival as they cruise the shoreline. Now as far as other cover, its pretty much been added where there is some type of structure like underwater points, ledges and or where two different depths meet. And some more is set on a couple of flats. Ha ha, my son says I have to much cover, but if you go with 20 to 30 percent cover, it means something like an acre of cover in a 3 acre pond. that is a lot of cover if you think about it. Have some fun with you new ride and place some cover around to where it might concentrate some fish for easy fishing. smile
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/17 09:09 AM

"What did you do at your pond today?"

I picked up two more winter killed RES yesterday, it has been a long month since ice out. I picked up one more dead RES this morning frown

I did have a snipe visit the pond shoreline yesterday and chased a great blue heron off this morning.
Posted by: xraytrapper

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/17 05:58 PM

put 7 lbs of FHM in the pond today and hand sorted them all. only other thing I found in there a was a rosy red and it went in the pond. impressed with Shelby fish farm 100% no unwanted fish in the bunch. now to wait 2-3 weeks to get the rest of the fish and GSH.
also put 4 pallets in for FHM spawning structure and some homemade floating structures with pieces of spouting.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/17 07:38 PM

After further investigation, I found the battery on my TH dock feeder was dead (I thought it would last more than 2 years being solar charged). That explains a few things. I hand fed yesterday and today...the fish were voracious. Pulled the battery for exchange. Water temperature was 66 degrees. It's spring time in SE Texas.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/17 11:50 PM

I sat in the glider most of the day visiting with my nephew. I fed several times today. I always try to keep the morning and evening meals at the same time, but the rest of the feeding is done at various times throughout the day. Handful here and there. They always seem hungry.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 09:15 PM

Changed out the battery in the TH dock feeder. Ran 2) test cycles at 4 secs each. BG fed hard until the LMB showed up and started blowing them out of the water...exciting stuff! Water was 68 degrees.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 09:42 PM

Hooked a 5+ lb bass on topwater,ran under brush and jumped into brush and hung from above water limbs giving me a look at it. Fun!
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 10:05 PM

I checked for winter killed RES and didn't find any, yeah! It's been a long month in that regard. I also checked for YP ribbons and didn't see any, then fished for a little bit in a cold north breeze and caught a few large GSH. Still waiting on warmer water temps here.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 10:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Hooked a 5+ lb bass on topwater,ran under brush and jumped into brush and hung from above water limbs giving me a look at it. Fun!


Very cool Pat!

How's the BCP fishing? Up here, when the water temp hits 55 or so, it's game on!
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Shorty
I checked for winter killed RES and didn't find any, yeah! It's been a long month in that regard. I also checked for YP ribbons and didn't see any, then fished for a little bit in a cold north breeze and caught a few large GSH. Still waiting on warmer water temps here.


Good news Shorty. Did you have any winter kill other than RES? Do you think it was the temp or something else that got the RES?
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Hooked a 5+ lb bass on topwater,ran under brush and jumped into brush and hung from above water limbs giving me a look at it. Fun!


Very cool Pat!

How's the BCP fishing? Up here, when the water temp hits 55 or so, it's game on!

Kinda slow on the BCP.... think the Anhinga is doing well on the BCP... the cormorants not doing too bad either. I think the BCP have only gotten one spawn off since the lake was dug... 8" is the only size that I can catch
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/17 10:41 PM

Bill, just a few small GSH at ice out, everything else has been all winter killed RES. We had had a good stretch of abnormally warm weather back in February that took the ice off the pond very quickly, I am guessing that the rapid ice melt mixed the water column quickly and killed a significant number of my RES. Most of the dead RES I have picked up have been from a single extremely large year class in the 6" to 8" size range, smaller and larger RES are noticeable absent for some odd reason. In the last 4 weeks I have picked 116 dead RES over 6" with only four 9" RES and three over 10". The ones popping up over the last week are very decayed, they are missing skin, eyeballs, and cheeks. Water temps in the 40's have made this a very slow drawn out process.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 02:19 PM

They are biting today!

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Shorty
Bill, just a few small GSH at ice out, everything else has been all winter killed RES. We had had a good stretch of abnormally warm weather back in February that took the ice off the pond very quickly, I am guessing that the rapid ice melt mixed the water column quickly and killed a significant number of my RES. Most of the dead RES I have picked up have been from a single extremely large year class in the 6" to 8" size range, smaller and larger RES are noticeable absent for some odd reason. In the last 4 weeks I have picked 116 dead RES over 6" with only four 9" RES and three over 10". The ones popping up over the last week are very decayed, they are missing skin, eyeballs, and cheeks. Water temps in the 40's have made this a very slow drawn out process.


That is pretty sickening Shorty. Sorry to hear that. I've been catching a few so hope mine are ok.
Posted by: N.TexasHalfAcre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 02:45 PM

Nice fish Zep! Some of my favorite times to fish are right before a storm blows through.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 03:50 PM

Snrub, I had planned to agressivley thin down that size class of RES this year. Final count picked was 121.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 05:10 PM

Pretty fish Mark. It's a nice day to be out and about. Tomorrow looks like a nap day. The wind just flipped.

Shorty, sorry abut your RES. I always enjoy pics of your fish.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 05:26 PM

That is one pretty bass Zep. Love the coloration and the pattern on it.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 08:43 PM

Thanks guys....because a guest using minnows continually catches more fish than me...

I finally decided "if ya can't beat 'em...join 'em".

Now I am catching more fish every weekend using minnows.

I still throw artificial baits, but good grief these minnows produce some great fish.
Posted by: FishFan

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/17 09:15 PM

I took a drive to my pond with intentions of feeding (which I did) but threw a crankbait in first and a chunky 5lber snatched it up near the bank . Water levels are at full pool from the recent rains. Bass and bluegill were eating pellets pretty aggressively for being this early in the year. Usually pics are more clear but these were taken with my phone.

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 12:01 AM

Took my son and three of his kids on a boat ride/fishing trip at our pond. They had a lot of fun with the CNBG and BG!

Many thanks to Chief Pondmeister Bob Lusk, who recommended these panfish. Grandkids call the CNBG "Tiger Bluegill" for their stripes and attitude...
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:18 AM

Caught a bunch of nice sized green sunfish. See my pond thread for pictures
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 07:41 AM

I started up my aeration system with a 30 min run yesterday and will bump it up to an hour today. Six Kasco diffusers in this 3.4 acre to 3 acre pond. Last year, I ran it 24-7 and in August the water temp was at or around 90 degrees , so now I am thinking I may just run the system at night only during the hot time of the year. I also added another brush pile along the ponds edge. Hoping to improve on lmb fingerling survival and improve the survival of cnbg fry. I have a lot of cnbg in the 4 to 10" size and have caught and released an 11" cnbg.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 09:12 AM

I moved the diffusers back to deeper water, after a winter spent in the shallows. Actually, never ran the system at all this past winter. Don't believe that's ever happened before. As I'm motoring them back out deep, the air line broke off at the diffuser manifold, so that necessitated a trip to the dock and a repair. While I had them high and dry I fired up the compressor and found a couple more annoyances, one being that the pump wouldn't start. A flip of the motor cured that issue, and it restarted several more times with no further issue. It appears sitting idle all winter didn't agree with it.

The second issue revolved around the membranes being severely plugged up. To the point that replacement is in order. I think I will move away from the high dollar membranes, and substitute replacement by less expensive diffusers every couple years. Ideally, I would replace them before placement, but I was counting on the aeration to help distribute the dye I also planned to add yesterday. So down they went, with the full knowledge that they will be coming back up in a week or two.

Put the dye in, no issues there thank goodness.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 10:24 AM

Nothing today. It's raining cats and dogs!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Nothing today. It's raining cats and dogs!


Yes!

Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 11:33 AM

Nothing here ,all going around us so far
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:09 PM

Took this picture:

Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:25 PM

Cool picture RAH! Looks like a great white egret. We had one on our pond this morning as well. Two old sayings came to mind, "Wolf in sheep's clothing" and "a rose by any other name is still a rose." IIRC great white egrets are herons and IMO are just GBH in disguise, even if they are called egret! They are in my pond to stab my fish and frogs! mad
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:28 PM

We had a pair of wood ducks today, they were not cooperative about getting their picture taken.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:28 PM

Bill the bird probably thinks of you the same way.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 02:36 PM

Think it is a snowy egret, but I am no bird expert. Not worried about what its eating. My guess is that the easy pickings are frogs, but expect it is finding the smaller YP tasty as well. 50 or so (some nice) BG came to be fed at the old pond this morning as well. Finished off a multiyear project cutting grapes a 20+ acre block of woods. The Asian honeysuckle will not be so easy.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 03:30 PM

Mom says we got 4" of rain. We caught a break in the rain and walked to the pond. Threw out the feed and the feast was on. Fed them 6 cups and it was eaten in less than 5 minutes. These sunfish can really eat. I have also started trying to feed the little fish in a different area. I can't tell if they are BG or not, they are very small though. Mom diverts the big fish by feeding them as I'm on around the corner feeding the small ones.

Luckily, my water hasn't turned muddy from the rain. I'm not sure why because it sure did on the last flood we had.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 04:00 PM

I also have one of those snowy white herons everyday and shows up around feeding time making the cnbg an easier target. And I hope I get 4" of rain today at the farm, I could use it, pond is still down from full pool.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 04:28 PM

Scattered some more annual rye seed on the top and sides of the dam at the new pond. It's supposed to rain in an hour or so. I have a sparse stand already from the first seeding five weeks or so ago but it needs to be thicker.
Posted by: N.TexasHalfAcre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 04:53 PM

Walked the flooded area down stream of my pond looking for stranded fish. Water is too muddy to see anything. Found one dead Bluegill in the weeds. Other than that I haven't seen anything else.
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 06:06 PM

Well my bass are post spawn. All of the LMB I caught the last two days are post spawn. Looks like its time to see how they did.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 06:35 PM

Went fishing. Caught a number of BG and one CC I would guess 3#.
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 11:22 PM

I need to cull several CC.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/17 11:44 PM

Best way to cull them is into grease, after cleaning. laugh

Or now my wife likes her new air fryer that uses minimal grease.

I know, I know, your family does not like fish that well.

Cut them into thin strips like fish sticks or small bite size chunks, coat with a good fish coating mix with the flavors you like, and even non-fish eaters will think they are pretty tasty.

I'm not a big fish eater myself. But pond raised and artificial feed fed and the right flavored coating and we now eat quite a bit of fish and like it a lot.
Posted by: 4CornersPuddle

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 12:08 AM

RAH, your white colored heron type is a Great Egret, Ardea alba. Several of the larger wading birds (herons, egrets, others) come in white. The GBH, Ardea herodias, as a white morph is called a Great White Heron; it's only a color phase of the more common blue variety.
Then there is the Snowy Egret. It has yellow feet. There are cattle egrets, commonly seen in groups feeding in pastures with cows. The Reddish Egret has a white morph; the Little Blue Heron also.
What indicates your bird as the Great Egret is its black legs and feet, longish thin slightly downcurved bill, and relatively large mass.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 06:02 AM

Thank you for identifying the bird and for the how to do it! Is the light colored beak diagnostic as well?
Posted by: 4CornersPuddle

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 10:23 AM

RAH The beak color is only partially diagnostic in that some of the smaller heron/egrets may have dark bills or light bills or a combination of dark and light at different times of their lives. The white morph of the GBH has a yellow bill which is much heavier, thicker, straighter, and appears two toned in good light.
Adult GWHs, ie. white phase GBH, in spring have plumes on the back of their heads; the Great Egrets do not. The GWHs also have short plumes on their lower backs, sometimes hard to see, and the egrets have longer plumes there. These plume features are more readily apparent when the birds are on the ground rather than in the air.
Two guides I'd recommend are The Sibley Guide to Birds, a National Audubon book, and Complete Birds of North America from National Geographic.
Enjoy!
This reminds me of our trip down the Rio Lagartos (alligator river), on the northern shore of the Yucatan many years ago. One of our party jokingly would query our panga operator/guide about the flavor of each of the different bird species he was pointing out to us. "!Muy sabroso!" was his reply for every one. When he even answered that way for the roseate spoonbill, a bird that filter feeds in the muck, we KNEW he was full of it!
Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 10:39 AM

John,
We eat a lot of fish and the CC are headed to the grease! I think there is a list of friends that are always interested in our CC for grease releases!
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 10:54 AM

We ended up pan frying a few of the larger (8"+) BG this past weekend as well. Quite tasty...We've released a few CC and BC to the grease a couple months back, but this is a first for the BG. What a treat. I've been needing to remove some fish and we haven't even put a dent in it. It'll be easier when the house is completed and we move out there.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:00 AM

Thanks again on the bird ID info.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:11 AM

Originally Posted By: stickem'
We ended up pan frying a few of the larger (8"+) BG this past weekend as well. Quite tasty...We've released a few CC and BC to the grease a couple months back, but this is a first for the BG. What a treat. I've been needing to remove some fish and we haven't even put a dent in it. It'll be easier when the house is completed and we move out there.


I need to get to the lake! It's Crappie time!
Posted by: 4CornersPuddle

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:14 AM

You are quite welcome RAH.

I've been bird crazy since I hand caught a common redpoll in a snowstorm when I was 5 (back in the 50's). All birds, big or little, interest me.

Apparently that energy has been picked up by my Australian shepherd/border collie girl. She'll be at my side this coming Saturday when a big old tom turkey comes strutting in to my calls. At the shot, she'll be on him on a flash, administering the coup de' grace and starting the plucking process. This year I have a smart phone, so I'll attempt a video.

I really think her philosophy is that birds have wings, so they need to be using them. No GBHs or Canada geese stay on our pond once she spots them!
Posted by: BrianL

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:50 AM

Restocked my pond 100 5-7" LMB and 50 10-12" HSB from Overton's

Posted by: BrianL

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:52 AM


grin
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 11:59 AM

Our younger German Shepherd thinks that geese are not allowed and swims after them. I have had GS dogs all my life and this is the first one that does this trick. They all love to swim, but chasing geese in the water is new. Still not enough turkeys on my place to hunt, but they are building. Coyotes are thick, so they have a challenge. Both GS dogs think that the yotes have no right to be on our place and I am OK with that! We have a third GS dog on the way. My wife wants a pack, but I have only agreed to 4, and these need to be spread out over time so they don't all die together. We had 4 dogs die at 14 to 15 years old over the course of a year or so, and that was hard. Training is also easier when older trained dogs are around to set an example.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 06:40 PM

BrianL, ain't getting new fish great? It's always fun.

Those HSB will be fatties by fall, congrats.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/17 09:10 PM

Wife caught Mr. Whiskers on camera.
Posted by: Rainman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/17 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Best way to cull them is into grease, after cleaning. laugh

Or now my wife likes her new air fryer that uses minimal grease.

I know, I know, your family does not like fish that well.

Cut them into thin strips like fish sticks or small bite size chunks, coat with a good fish coating mix with the flavors you like, and even non-fish eaters will think they are pretty tasty.

I'm not a big fish eater myself. But pond raised and artificial feed fed and the right flavored coating and we now eat quite a bit of fish and like it a lot.


I'm starting to like our new air fryer as well...so called healthier foods worry me, since I've done pretty well for 56 years on sugar, caffeine and nicotine....Last thing I want, is to die healthy!
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/07/17 11:33 PM

Got out to the pond just in time to watch them feed. Lots of smaller fish it seems. The pellets were consumed in less than 5 minutes. I may increase the feed times by another 25% tomorrow. Water temp was 75 degrees....a little elevated for this time of year normally.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/08/17 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: stickem'
Got out to the pond just in time to watch them feed. Lots of smaller fish it seems. The pellets were consumed in less than 5 minutes. I may increase the feed times by another 25% tomorrow. Water temp was 75 degrees....a little elevated for this time of year normally.



I know right! I keep increasing daily! Those GSF and CC are eating machines. If they keep eating like this, they're gonna eat me out of house and home!
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/08/17 08:55 PM

Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Originally Posted By: stickem'
Got out to the pond just in time to watch them feed. Lots of smaller fish it seems. The pellets were consumed in less than 5 minutes. I may increase the feed times by another 25% tomorrow. Water temp was 75 degrees....a little elevated for this time of year normally.



I know right! I keep increasing daily! Those GSF and CC are eating machines. If they keep eating like this, they're gonna eat me out of house and home!


My GSF came in with a flood that filled the pond overnight. They were so prolific the first year...I would catch 4-5 distinct sizes. I culled out 350 of them and gave them to a neighbor whose pond had "turned over" and had killed all his large BG breeders. His LMB were living by canibalizing their own spawn. Once I got some predators (LMB, BC, and CC) stocked (after about a year) I very seldom catch a GSF. Given time, your predators should take care of your GSF issue.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/08/17 11:50 PM

Took friends on a boat trip around the pond, particularly the island. We saw two areas where CNBG were bedding, a third area almost certainly but too windy to see clearly. Great time, exactly what I wanted the pond to be, along with fun place for kids to catch lots of fish.

Tested feeders for 3 seconds, and all feed gone within 3-5 minutes. Now feeding twice a day, 6 seconds each time, from three feeders. That's only 3 pounds of Optimal per day, think I'll double it in a few days.

Look forward to some TP and GSH stocking this week, along with a small number of breeding size CNBG for the forage pond. No aerator yet because no electricity, so will wait until next year for TP in forage pond.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/09/17 07:48 PM

I increased the morning and afternoon feed times from 4 to 6 sec on the TH dock feeder (the fish had been cleaning the pellets up in about 3 minutes previously)...then filled the feeder up with Triton (Cargill) pellets...a mix of 1/8", 3/16, and 1/4" size...fish were lively and fed well. Water was 68 degrees. Man, I have a heck of a bunch of red-ear slider turtles from the size of a hard hat down to a golf ball that need thinning out. Knocked down some dead trees with my FEL and drug them to where I normally burn brush. I also set up 2 tripod corn feeders near the pond (no batteries or corn loaded yet). We hope to be moving into our retirement home (there) in about 3 or so weeks.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/10/17 06:33 AM

Originally Posted By: stickem'
also set up 2 tripod corn feeders near the pond (no batteries or corn loaded yet). We hope to be moving into our retirement home (there) in about 3 or so weeks.



What are you feeding the corn to? Sounds like a nice adventure in your future.
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/10/17 09:59 AM

Bought a new battery for the fish feeder... it could have been out as much as 2 weeks. Needless to say, BG and HSB very hungry!
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/10/17 05:13 PM

Threw out the minnow traps this morning hoping to sample some small perch. Baited with optimal fish food and a little dog food (kids thought it would be funny to mix dog food with the fish food....)

First pull in, nothing

2nd time, a little deeper, kept it out longer, 2 GSH, one about 4", one about 2". Looked healthy. Very happy to see that they continue to do OK in a pond with close to zero vegetation. But no predators yet either..

Third time kept overnight, next morning 5 big fat crayfish in it!! I have stocked crayfish 2 summers in a row, no predators, never see crayfish, thought they all walked off and couldn't understand why never saw them at night or in traps. Well, at least 5 of them survived.

When traps are overflowing it will be time to stock predators. I suspect the adult YP are probably going to feast on the young crayfish if we can get some offspring going.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/10/17 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Originally Posted By: stickem'
also set up 2 tripod corn feeders near the pond (no batteries or corn loaded yet). We hope to be moving into our retirement home (there) in about 3 or so weeks.



What are you feeding the corn to? Sounds like a nice adventure in your future.


We deer and hog hunt on our place as well...deer hunt by choice and hog hunt in self defense. I like to keep the animals (deer) close year around. There are even some axis running loose. About 7-8 years ago someone bought a 5000 acre tract of high fence property a few miles north of us and they tore the fences down. I've had axis on camera at the game feeders on several occasions.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/10/17 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: stickem'
Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Originally Posted By: stickem'
also set up 2 tripod corn feeders near the pond (no batteries or corn loaded yet). We hope to be moving into our retirement home (there) in about 3 or so weeks.



What are you feeding the corn to? Sounds like a nice adventure in your future.


We deer and hog hunt on our place as well...deer hunt by choice and hog hunt in self defense. I like to keep the animals (deer) close year around. There are even some axis running loose. About 7-8 years ago someone bought a 5000 acre tract of high fence property a few miles north of us and they tore the fences down. I've had axis on camera at the game feeders on several occasions.



There is No better meat than Axis in my opinion
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/12/17 07:34 AM

First morels found yesterday!
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 12:52 AM

Nothing going on here. Water still muddy from flood. Fish won't eat for the next few days. Brother bought me a glider so I can sit by the pond. I really like it!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 07:07 PM

Got my dozer back from the highly competent young neighbor mechanic and he started up my backhoe and got it out of the barn. Now I need to plan a 2 week vacation during the summer to dig the next pond... First I get the artesian fen going and level the pad for the new barn. I have 300 years of plans to get started on!
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 07:52 PM

Been catching re, bg, and lm. At my place the re are spawning and are hitting minnow pattern flies like crazy.
Also have put in some artificial Christmas trees and a couple of cedars.
No mushrooms, but a little asparagus.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 08:33 PM

Sounds fun CMM! +1 on the asparagus starting to come thru.

I went out this afternoon and put Bayer Tree and Shrub granules around several of the trees we had Japanese Beetle problems with last year. Took a break and walked around the pond and was happy to see, now that the water is warming a bit, thousands and thousands of small fish and large tadpoles in the shallows. Started watching a Belted Kingfisher and he successfully caught and consumed 3 BG in the 2 inch+ size in about 30 minutes! I was amazed he could still fly away! Definitely entertaining to watch! Started doing the math and was surprised at the numbers. If that guy catches 3 BG a day from April thru October, he eats over 600 BG!
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 08:51 PM

...went out to check on the house and walked down to the pond right as the feeder was going off. Watched the fish feed, then threw a couple handfuls more of pellets. The fish were voracious today.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 09:11 PM

Charlie it won't be long will it
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/13/17 09:28 PM

Walt Overton came out and stocked small GSH and large TP. Also put 50 breeding size CNBG in the forage pond.

And he helped us set up feeder on dock. For some reason we never got the legs for the Texas Hunter feeder, so we did without. The fish didn't respond for about ten seconds, then went crazy. All food eaten in less than 5 minutes.

Neat to see BG bedding just to the right of the dock, in the "fish" area. The left side of the dock is the swim area. Some of the Mozambique TP were a beautiful golden color, easy to spot them. A few of the CNBG were really nice, in the 7 to 8 inch zone.

Still have to reload other feeders, plus set timers on 9am/7:30pm schedule. And need to fertilize, which I intend to do this weekend.

It's coming together, slow but sure.

Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Charlie it won't be long will it


No it wont, my friend...builder handed us the keys last night...realtor coming to list this one on Tuesday...
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 10:20 AM

Originally Posted By: RAH
Got my dozer back from the highly competent young neighbor mechanic and he started up my backhoe and got it out of the barn. Now I need to plan a 2 week vacation during the summer to dig the next pond... First I get the artesian fen going and level the pad for the new barn. I have 300 years of plans to get started on!


Rah,
Your itinerary sounds much like mine....I wish I was 20 yrs younger. Time to start the Aleve IV drip on my end...
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 10:24 AM

Charlie congrats, now the fun begins, for us also. We can move in also crept for a few punch list items
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 10:25 AM

Rah you sound like the rest of us! 300 years of stuff to do....
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 11:01 AM

I just shot the pad for the future barn and most of it is 10" high. That is OK, but it ain't flat. Can add a couple days to the work plan. A good operator that can see grade could probably do it in an hour.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/14/17 08:18 PM

Watched the fish feed at 5:00, then fed them again at 6:30. They wiped it out quickly. Tried to film some fish feeding in slow motion mode on my camera. Water was 75 degrees. Will probably increase feeder time another 25%.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/15/17 06:53 PM

I increased the feed times from 6 to 8 seconds on the dock feeder. The fish still cleaned it up in 5 minutes. It felt like summer in SE Texas today.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/15/17 08:47 PM

81 here today so I thought I'd see if the fish were ready to start hitting pellets yet for this year. Threw a couple handfuls and was really surprised at the response. It was all hands on deck! 8 to 9 inch YP (last years recruits), all different sizes of BG, a SMB and a couple LMB cruisers and, of course, half a dozen CC.

Also found a dead bullfrog on the shore. Maybe 7 or 8 inch. No idea the cause of death and smelled too bad to examine it closely.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/16/17 12:21 AM

Pond still murky from the last storm, but fish are back to eating now. Seeing quite a few catfish now.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/16/17 10:52 AM

Bass are on nests, saw a male guarding visible eggs. Redear and RES/BG hybrids are staging right off nesting sites. Almost showtime, provided the weather holds up.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/16/17 11:10 AM

A bunch of eater size CC came up for food in my 19 month old pond, and were aggressively taking food.

Still no CC feeding in my 4 month old pond, (nearly full now) and I put 13 more 8" CC in yesterday right by the feeding ring.

Sold my 2" HF water pump Friday and bought a 2" Honda pump. Tried it out on a long run today. As far as I can figure, it pumps about 8% more water on only 55% of the gas that the HF pump used, so about 60% more water per gallon of gas.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/16/17 10:41 PM

Very good day! Saw multiple bedding sites around the pond, the CNBG are definitely in the mood for romance. In fact, they are so naive that they swarm around the dock when we walk out on it.

Now have four working feeders. All pellets eaten quickly, within about 5 minutes. May have to increase feeding once I get more feed, now about 1 pound (12 seconds of Optimal) per day per feeder.

We saw one BIG (well, for a 10 month old) LMB, a good 15-16 inches and very well fed. Appeared to be sizing up dinner near the dock, there are a ton of CNBG there. Also we saw a couple of tilapia, though they weren't actively feeding.

Fertilized 50 pounds in the pond, the first time we've done this. Last year the pH & alkalinity were too low for a bloom, but this year is better.

Saw great blue heron and some cormorants. Unfortunately, the word is getting out about the fish. The GBH doesn't bother me much, but the cormorants are another matter. May have to get a license to discourage them from eating all the fish. We'll see.

Beautiful evening among the pines, wife & I listened to the frogs & occasional splash of a fish. When we left we saw two deer, a doe and nearly fully grown fawn.

We aren't there yet, but I'm thankful at how far we've come!

Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/19/17 06:32 PM

Over the past week, I have been watching an osprey enjoy our pond and a few fish. On Sunday, she(?) caught one the same time I did. She splashed down about 15' from the boat. Today I watched her dive 5 times. She only came up with 2 fish.

I love watching, but if I see her with a 3lb lm, I might cry.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/19/17 09:23 PM

A buddy was fishing in Wi. last year in a boat. He deep hooked a BG, and it didn't make it, but a Bald Eagle came down and grabbed it very close to the boat. Hmmmmmmmmm..... he thought.

He fed the eagle for an hour with small BG. They'd fly off, then be right back. He guessed they were feeding eaglets in the nest.

Pretty cool, whether an Osprey or an Eagle!!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/22/17 09:55 PM

Had a troop of Boy Scouts fish the pond today. Think there was 8 of them and they caught 7 CC about 3# each. Couple of the boys had fished before but until today had never caught anything. Also one kid caught a 1# CNBG as his first fish! They had a good time and actually thanked me for inviting them .... there is hope yet. It was a good day to be repeated.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Had a troop of Boy Scouts fish the pond today. Think there was 8 of them and they caught 7 CC about 3# each. Couple of the boys had fished before but until today had never caught anything. Also one kid caught a 1# CNBG as his first fish! They had a good time and actually thanked me for inviting them .... there is hope yet. It was a good day to be repeated.


That's awesome Pat...a great organization for kids. Hopefully, you helped hook some new anglers for life.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 11:27 AM

My pond cooled and turned over from the 3.4 inches of rain Friday. The water running in looked clear, but visibility went from about 18 inches to 2 inches. Bluegill still feeding, but not CC.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 02:16 PM

A boatload of toad tadpoles showed up in the YP/SMB pond. Water clarity in both ponds is very high.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 02:37 PM

Was paddling around in the pond and another otter surfaced close enough to try to cast a topwater pop-R at it ..... it exploded under and surfaced about 100' feet away and went into the jungle of flooded timber.... dang wher is a gun when ya need it
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 07:13 PM

Walked down to the pond to watch the fish feed. Threw a couple of handfuls of pellets before the dock feeder went off. I seem to have quite a few Fingerling LMB about 5" long that I have not previously noticed. Looks like the LMB got a spawn off last year after all. Water was 75ē despite the cooler weather. The temp should be in the high 40's here in the morning.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 09:39 PM

Despite cooler weather, fish still swarming around feeders & dock. In fact, when a friend and I took the boat out, about fifty CNBG followed us halfway across the lake, hoping for a handout! I felt like the Pied Piper of Panfish...

Friend caught loads of fish despite outdated equipment (20 year old line???). Mostly CNBG, but when he put on a small crankbait the LMB were all over it.

Good news re LMB recruitment: Plenty of YOY fish, under 4 inches. Biggest we caught only 8 inches, but we have seen much larger ones in the lake, usually when the feeders go off.

Good news: Wild blackberries are in season! We ate a bunch, but there are plenty more. Hope to get grandkids there in time to harvest some, it will be good for them to see that food doesn't come from a plastic box in the store.

Bad news: We went to Canada goose nest intending to addle eggs, but too late! Mom & Dad Goose now have four goslings.

Oh, well, I'll put in Away with Geese lights after goslings depart. Before then there will be no point, parents won't leave them.

Nasty (and pretty large) black snake hanging around dock area, I guess because there are plenty of fish there. Snakes don't bother me much, except I've got four little grandkids who visit & fish from the dock. May have to show the snake that this is not a good spot for it to stay, despite all the food.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/23/17 09:55 PM

Great news Charlie, told ya I bet they spawned last year. Soon you will be plum full of bass
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/24/17 09:03 AM

Brought a chair, a Yuengling Light, and a bucket of Aquamax LMB to the floating pier and watched the HSB explode. They are so active and fast that they frequently will take the LMB pellet before it floats back to the surface which is quite a feat considering the pellet sinks less than an inch.

Also, Weedeated around the pond edge to cut back some dark-green, thick leaved weed that will eventually grow prickly seedpods if left to grow. It makes it a 500% harder job once those seepods grow cause they make everthing stick together. I take a pic after some grows a bit and see if ya'll know what it is.
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/24/17 11:23 AM

Like this DJS ?




http://s74.photobucket.com/user/ewestmnw/media/HSBfeeding6-2013IMG_0167_zpsec3b2730.mp4.html
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/24/17 04:25 PM

My 11 yr old grandson had one of his baseball teammates spend the weekend with us at the tail end of their spring break. They had a blast fishing swimming,peddling around in the little boat, feeding the fish,cruising our trails on 22 acres in a golf cart. Then inside they shot pool,played pinball machine, played ping pong, ate a ton of pizza and then played a few video games!!! The other little boy wanted to move in with us!! Making memories. Lots of fun.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 06:17 AM

And that is what this stuff is all about.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 06:27 AM

Originally Posted By: CMM
Over the past week, I have been watching an osprey enjoy our pond and a few fish. On Sunday, she(?) caught one the same time I did. She splashed down about 15' from the boat. Today I watched her dive 5 times. She only came up with 2 fish.

I love watching, but if I see her with a 3lb lm, I might cry.


Awesome! I've seen lots of osprey, but never in Mo. Almost every time out west or in FL we see them. They do eat some fish though. Kind of a mixed blessing. Watched one in Utah hit and try to lift a big trout. He just couldn't fly off with it though.
I sure didn't know they hung out in Missouri. Do they nest around your place?
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 07:26 AM

We had an Osprey at our pond in N. Illinois yesterday as well. This one made two spectacular dives but came up empty. Very cool to watch.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 08:25 AM

Bald Eagles are more common here than Osprey's. Both birds get a fish eating pass when they show up.
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 08:48 AM

Eric,
I cannot view the video you posted... I can see all the photos in the album, however. Perhaps I've got some security setting stopping me from seeing the vids???
Posted by: fish n chips

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 09:17 AM

DJ, and Eric: The video played for me. I clicked on the photo and sent me to photobucket where it loaded slowly (probably my slow computer).
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: CMM
Over the past week, I have been watching an osprey enjoy our pond and a few fish. On Sunday, she(?) caught one the same time I did. She splashed down about 15' from the boat. Today I watched her dive 5 times. She only came up with 2 fish.

I love watching, but if I see her with a 3lb lm, I might cry.


Awesome! I've seen lots of osprey, but never in Mo. Almost every time out west or in FL we see them. They do eat some fish though. Kind of a mixed blessing. Watched one in Utah hit and try to lift a big trout. He just couldn't fly off with it though.
I sure didn't know they hung out in Missouri. Do they nest around your place?


SetterGuy, I haven't seen the nest, but as often as I have seen the bird, I do think it is somewhere close. We have many more bald eagles in MO than osprey. I have only seen an osprey here occasionally before this year. It is exciting, like so many on the forum, I am old enough to remember when all birds of prey were quite rare and to see the comeback of Eagles, osprey and other big birds does my heart good.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/25/17 11:23 PM

Had a company get together around the pond and back yard. About fifteen people total, some employees and their families.

Had quarter pound Nathan hot dogs, brats and smoked chicken wings/legs smoked on a big green egg knock off along with other home made fixins with Texas cocoa cake and apple crisp to top it all off.

Shot up a couple boxes of clay pigeons and half a dozen of us fished. Most of my pigeons lived but had some crack shots in the bunch and a lot were killed. Lots of BG, a few hybrids and GSF, but no LMB or CC. With all the rain and unsettled weather bite was a little slow till about a half hour before sundown, then the BG could not get enough of the various lures.

A good time around the pond this evening.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/26/17 09:03 AM

You have to boil those pigeons a lot before eating...and even then they can be pretty tough!! Need a lot of seasoning.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/26/17 07:36 PM

Watched the fish feed when the afternoon time approached. Again, had 3 large explosions amongst the forage fish feeding. Third day straight that this has happened. I think the LMB are starting to take advantage. Exciting stuff...
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/27/17 09:00 AM

Just think Charlie one day soon you will have one of those bad boys on the end of a fishing pole. Now that will be fun and make all the hard work and worry worthwhile! Good job
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/08/17 11:21 AM

Well my old bait / fish cage finally fell apart. So we had a 30 gallon blue barrel left over from the old dock we decided to make into a bait cage. My Dad cut it down drilled the holes in and put the handles on and now we got a plastic cage that should last us a while.

We also restored a old iron bench I had that was falling apart and painted and put new wood in it for sitting around the fire outside.

RC
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/08/17 11:35 AM

Nice work RC.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/08/17 12:51 PM

RC, I love the bait cage. I think I will be making one before next year when I need to check my fish stocking so that no unwanted fish get put in the pond. Maybe I'll add some floatation to it so that doesn't get out of hand while sorting fish. Thanks for the ideas.

This weekend I waded out into my pond for the first time. I needed to relocate some FHM pallets that I underestimated the needed weight to hold them down. For a job that should have been done right the first time I still enjoyed the time at the pond. I wore chest waders and managed to keep my socks dry, they were the only dry garments, but at least I did not fumble and fill the waders completely.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/08/17 01:39 PM

No problem Quarter, ideas is what this site is all about. The bait cage stayed in place but felt a little light so I just took and put a flat 6 or 7 inch by 2 inch round rock in the bottom and bingo no problems. It was staying put without the rock but the little extra weight just insured it stayed put.

RC
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/08/17 02:13 PM

I like both projects.

I had thought about using a plastic barrel like that for structural strength but make the holes very big with basically a skeleten of the barrel left then cover it with half inch plastic mesh.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 09:08 AM

I was very happy to see the eastern box turtles coming out of the woods and heading to somewhere maybe to lay eggs? This time of year we see them crossing the roads near our house and we work hard to save them from getting hit. The bus driver alerted me to a nice big one up the road a ways and I was able to save that one. I saw another one heading across the road this morning.

They are threatened species here. The only turtle around here that has a hinge in the hard surface on the bottom shell that allows it to completely seal off the area between the shells at the head and the tail. I understand they live for years often right in the same geographical area. Hopefully we can keep that pattern going.
Posted by: Bing

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 09:21 AM

I've helped many box turtles cross the road around where I live. I once thought that I would relocate some of them into the middle of my CRP forest to protect them, but I have read not to relocate them, it seems they get very familiar with the limited area where they live and moving them often confuses them and they do not survive.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 10:26 AM

Last weekend and this coming weekend I am adding more solar spotlights, this time to trees.

Looks really cool at night....wires and electricity be damned! (lol)

Posted by: beastman

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 11:29 AM

Does it get enough sun under the trees to charge? Would think the shade is an issue?

I placed some glass solar lanterns hanging from 4 dock post , looks really nice.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 12:05 PM

beastman....it's a tree by tree decision...but we are not talking about that many trees. I keep most of my trees near the pond trimmed up at least 6-8 feet which allows the tree trunk to get direct sun....so before placing the solar light I watch how much sun a tree gets. I also have a few in the ground with the stake that comes with it, but the ones in the ground can be hit by mowers and weed-eaters. it's all good cool
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 12:07 PM

Was walking in the back yard and heard a bubbling noise coming from not far away. Went over to check and saw air bubbles and water coming up through the grass. oh no? underground sprinkling leak? the system was off! Maybe the main energized loop was leaking but no digging in this area and the main loop was not there either...

Did some digging. Found I have a long run of 4" pvc drain tile from house gutters passes through that area. There is plenty of slope to allow the pvc to drain in the woods about 40 feet away. The connections on the pvc are not glued, just pressed together. I figure there must be an obstruction.

Sure enough, went and took the PVC screen/cap off the end and a lot of water was backing up along with leaves/debris. cleared that out..

Now, if I put the pvc green cover back on I'm in the same boat again. if I keep it open then maybe critters will climb up it? It is a long run, uphill, about 150 feet of pipe back to the house. I'm not so good about scheduling routine cleanout of the pvc year around, so is there a solution?

Is there a different cap I can put on that lets most of the debris out but not rodents in?

I guess for now I'll leave the end open and hope our dog keeps anything on 4 legs that fits up that pipe away. Since he has learned how to 'stalk' squirrels and birds instead of barking furiously and charging at them he has been much more effective at keeping anything on 4 legs away!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
Is there a different cap I can put on that lets most of the debris out but not rodents in?

I would think it will be difficult to have a complete
rodent barrier that won't trap at least some debris:

https://www.agridrain.com/shop/c31/external-guards/p96/4-external-rodent-guard/

https://www.menards.com/main/pipe-tubing...44451527648.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Varmint-Guard-Fits-Schedule-Pipe/dp/B00BPPXNB2


Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 12:21 PM

If you go to that pond piping place that has been linked to several times before theymake a thing called a rat guard. I know they make it for bigger pond overflow pipes like 8", but don't know if they make them for smaller pipes.

Here ya go. pond dam piping ltd
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 02:52 PM

Many thanks for the help. I have something like the green flat top one in the attached picture. Probably the rat guard with spikes is the thing I'll try next but I was thinking of something easy to push in and pull out without requiring my drill and screws. Maybe one of those aluminum mesh that they would wad up and put in the downspout of your gutter to prevent leaves going down that you push in and pull out?
Posted by: bassmaster61

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 03:48 PM

https://www.agridrain.com/shop/c52/bar-guards,-standard/

Canyoncreek.....try the link above for a rodent/trash guard from agridrain. push in/pull out. BM61
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/18/17 04:00 PM

love it BM61, just what I needed. Thanks!
Posted by: bassmaster61

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 09:48 AM

CCreek....I had to get the 18 incher for our overflow pipe as I was advised grass carp would follow moving water and I didn't want to lose any of the ones just stocked with all the rain we had here this spring. Going to buy one for an 8 inch overflow at another pond we are trying to manage as well.

It works well so far, is built sturdy and hasn't had a problem getting clogged with trash. I am sure I will need to pull it and clean it from time to time, especially in the spring, but doesn't seem like it will be too much of a hassle. It pops in and out easily. BM61.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 11:02 AM

bassmaster61

Agri-Drain makes a great sturdy product & it's relatively cheap.

I have their drain guards on two ponds.





Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Last weekend and this coming weekend I am adding more solar spotlights, this time to trees.

Looks really cool at night....wires and electricity be damned! (lol)




I bet that looks really nice at night!

Mark, you have a premier property in east Texas. It is very, very nice. My wife and I enjoyed seeing it.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 11:16 AM

Thanks Tbar....like everyone on PondBoss knows well, our properties are a labor of love. It was great having you and your wife stop by. Next time ya gotta stay for a Hebrew National Hotdog! The solar lights do look cool at night. I could even see them a little on my Blink camera last night for the first time.
Posted by: basslover

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 04:21 PM

You could just cap the 4" PVC and drill a few various size holes to allow water to exit but not allow rodents to enter.
Posted by: bassmaster61

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 05:11 PM

Zep.....exactly the one we have.....except ours is in yellow. I like the way it works and easy to handle. Looks like yours is an 18 incher as well or close to it. Really makes my life easier. Quality product. Thanks. BM61.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/19/17 08:41 PM

Haven't been home since Sunday...getting a house ready to sell in NE Houston. Walked down to the pond at feeding time to watch them feed (and make a few casts). The fish fed hard. Water is 82 degrees today. A bit cooler than a couple of weeks ago here in SE Texas. It was 88 degrees then. Summer is about here.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/20/17 09:24 AM

Put in about 5 hours of dozer time (JD 550G) this past week on a new wetland or pond, depending on how my timing goes with rain this summer. Just trying to remove a deep layer of topsoil over the field tiles now to speed things up later and to get some more dozer experience. Rain has stopped work for now. We built this quarter acre wetland last summer to get fill for a future pond pad. It has very little watershed but is as tight as a drum. Will move in plants once the water is a little warmer.

Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/20/17 09:46 PM

Had a bunch of nieces and nephews over and the kids had fun catching goldfish. Harvested about 40 last night. I emptied the live well (front loader stainless steel drum). The GBH has been making 2 or 3 calls a day now and boldly selecting a choice goldfish out of the drum. I emptied the drum in the woods so the raccoons are going to eat well tonight. The GBH was bummed that it was back to wading and stalking and striking now.

Now that my goldfish are pellet trained we just 'chum' the water and catch them easily on frozen corn.

Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/20/17 09:55 PM

Added a game camera to catch videos of interlopers........







Oh wait....... grin
Posted by: LarryHale

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/21/17 06:34 PM

I unloaded a half ton of lime at the pond in preparation for treatment. Yes, my back is yelling at me about the abuse! blush
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/21/17 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Tbar



nice boat Tbar! cool
Posted by: wbuffetjr

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/21/17 06:55 PM

I sat in my office 1,800 miles away from the pond and looked at pics of it......
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/22/17 07:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
nice boat Tbar! cool



Yes it is! It was given to me by a very nice gentleman.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/22/17 09:36 AM

Saved a parrot fish.

Well not at my pond but the big pond called the Caribbean sea.

At about 50' depth came across a parrotfish about a foot long hooked in the mouth, fishing line snapped and wrapped around a gorgonian. Fish looks dead laying there.

Grab ahold of the hook and fish comes to life. I'm holding fish while closely watching that parrot shaped beak lest the fish decides I'm the enemy and goes into attack mode. Work with the hook for 30 seconds having zero luck getting the barb back through when I realize the fish is snagged just above the mouth instead of through the mouth. Take my knife off my BC (bouyancy compensator, not black crappie), insert the tip and cut the quarter inch of skin holding the fish (parrotfish appear to have increddibly tough skin).

Let the fish go, it lists momentarily in the water collumn, then is off like a rocket. Took the two hooks sinkers and line back with me out of the water.

So one more parrot fish is out grazing algae off coral reefs today than otherwise would have been. Now when I dive the area will be watching for a parrot fish with a scar on the left above its mouth.
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/22/17 03:40 PM

Good job.

Surprised he let you do that. Figured he would have put the afterburners on when you got close.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/23/17 06:59 AM

Good job snrub, saving wildlife is cool thing to do. I have an HSB in the pond that may have a fly and some tippet line in it's mouth. Maybe sometime when you r down this way, I have a pond you can dive in and look for another fish to help out. smile

I am considering buying a used tank and bc(if I can find one) for pond diving at the pond. I would like to improve a few things on the pond bottom, like diffusers and woody cover.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/23/17 08:28 PM

Tbar I think the fish had already worn itself out by the time I got there, fortunately for me.

Tracy get certified to dive if you are not already before you use any gear. The course is pretty easy and is not that expensive. Way lot cheaper than an ambulance trip to the hospital or morgue for air embolism. One of the safest active sports around, but there are definitely some do's and don't's that need to be adhered to.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/24/17 08:14 AM

snrub, I have been certified Padi(I think that is what it was called) it was in or around 1980 when I got my certificate, and I've been diving a lot of places but not so much in the last 12 yrs or so. But I am glad u posted up here for others that might not be certified and want to dive their pond.
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/13/17 02:12 PM

Watched the fish feed hard....they cleaned up the feed inside of 3 minutes. I checked water temperature...it is 80 degrees at about 8" depth. Filled the dock feeder with Triton (Cargill) 1/8", 3/16", and 1/4" pellets.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 02:03 PM

A guy doing some flagstone at the property texted me this morning and said "when did ya get the cows"?

I replied "I don't have any cows".

He texted back "well you have at least 8 cows standing on your dam this morning".



Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 02:32 PM

Zep,

Were they holding up signs that said "Eat more Chiken?"

LMAO!!!!!!!
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 03:06 PM

Dumped in our second 50# bag of feed of the year. fish are growing great this year. Able to keep the water temp in the 67-70 all year so far.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Were they holding up signs that said "Eat more Chiken?"


probably...lol

a bit odd...the guy who owns them was kind of jerk when I called him
almost like I was bothering him to let him know
"well what kind are they?"
"how do you know they are mine"?
"how'd they get over there?"

no other neighbors have cows
he is dairy farmer right next door
have never met him
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Originally Posted By: farmallsc
Were they holding up signs that said "Eat more Chiken?"


probably...lol

a bit odd...the guy who owns them was kind of jerk when I called him
almost like I was bothering him to let him know
"well what kind are they?"
"how do you know they are mine"?
"how'd they get over there?"

no other neighbors have cows
he is dairy farmer right next door
have never met him


Perfect opportunity to say, "Oh, sorry. Guess they are rare spotted deer. So ok with you if I catch and sell them?"
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/26/17 11:09 PM

Put in 170 lb of feed in five feeders. Fish still eating like crazy, good to see it isn't too hot yet. Some of those CNBG are looking really big for just two years old! Current pond record is 8 3/8 inches, but I'm thinking 9 by this fall. Hope for a 10 next year.

Sprayed for ants at base of one TH feeder, somehow they managed to invade. We saw tracks of other critters trying to get to the goodies, raccoons and field mice, but they failed.

The four geese have left. Not crying about it, but my wife misses them. GBH isn't going anywhere, however.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/27/17 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Perfect opportunity to say, "Oh, sorry. Guess they are rare spotted deer. So ok with you if I catch and sell them?"


Bill I guess I owe the guy an apology.

He came over and they are not his cows..so maybe when I called he had a hunch they weren't his.

Very odd because his land surrounds me basically on 3 sides and the two guys on the 4th side do not have any cows.

I guess we'll see what happens.

Here they are yesterday morning:






Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/27/17 10:55 AM

Any chance they have a calf with them? The black one in the second picture looks like a steer.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/27/17 11:00 AM

Mark, do they have any ear tags? Sale barns and most cattle guys around here will use one color tag.

We had 5 beautiful Red Angus calves on our place week before last. I shut the gate to keep them in, and stated making phone calls. Ultimately it took about 30-45 minutes to get the owner notified, and he rode off with his calves trailing without even a thanks to the several of us that helped find him. Next time, his cows will be on the road, and he can worry about it. His cows have green tags, so I know who they belong to now.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/27/17 11:20 AM

Not sure Don...I haven't been down there, but will check it out this weekend.

Al the flagstone mason said they have a green tag on them, but when he tried to approach they would scatter away.

My neighbor that I am close with...said he couldn't find them last night when he walked the property.

I have not seen them on the cameras today.

Maybe they went back "home" where-ever that might be.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/27/17 11:27 AM

I had a neighbor a whose cows were getting out onto our place and another neighbor's a few years ago. They were also getting onto the state highway and being an extreme hazard. He didn't fix the fence or move the cows until the state troopers had a couple of conversations with him.
Posted by: djstauder

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 11:28 AM

Jodi and I saw a cow on our deer feeder pictures this winter. Have no idea where he came from. I guess our fences aren't as solid as I thought
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 12:09 PM

Seen our first young crayfish of the year coming in at a walloping 1/4" at the pond today.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 03:09 PM

Gave up.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Gave up.


confused confused confused
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 07:22 PM

Contact the local sheriff office. In Texas, loose or stray cattle fall under their jurisdiction and the sheriff will come get the cows. On different occasions I had cows show up in the middle of my wildlife food plots and neither time were the cows from my bordering neighbors. Once was an older black man's cows and he was quick to come get them with my assistance. He told me Black men don't tag or brand their cows in E Texas, I did not now that. His cows have not been back on my place since. But I did have some other cows show up and after tracking them back to the owners through phone calls all around the area, an old woman and her old son was determined to be the owners of these cows and I approached this situation as any good or nice neighbor should. She may have had a tough day but I was glad she was not a bordering neighbor. I offered to help repair the fence but she and her son said no thanks and they came and gathered up the cows. A month or so later their cows showed back up and right back in the wildlife food plots. I went back to her place and told her about the cows destroying the food plots again and she said I was the reason she did not see deer on her place any more, because of the soy beans and peas I had planted. Their place is aa couple of miles away from my place. I then informed her, next time they showed up on my place I would contact the sheriff and they will come get the cows. The cows have not been back since and that was three years ago. Thank goodness she is not a bordering neighbor.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 08:17 PM

Thanks Tracy. The saga continued today. The dairy farmer that denied they were his cows called back and said unbeknownst to him his brother had allowed one of their workers to put 9 cows in a small pasture they don't normally use.

BINGO! That's where the stray cows came from.

He apologized.

Late this afternoon all the cattle were rounded up and are now off my property.

However I am not pleased because my flagstone guy said the cows got up near the log cabins and pooped all over the sidewalks and stomped on zoysia sod that was just planted last week. He said it's not horrible, but still.

This newer neighbor has 900 acres surrounding most of my property, I don't wanna go to war, so I will not make a stink this time....but if it happens again I will follow your advice and call the sheriff. and I will see what it will take to fix the fence!

This scene was caught on my front porch security cam this morning...look at those dang cows up in the front yard of my cabin today.


Posted by: highflyer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/28/17 10:17 PM

I'd call your best friend with a smoker. They look tasty!


Might also get a few nice belts out of the deal.
Posted by: nehunter

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/29/17 08:59 AM

My grand dad always said there are 2 reasons to put a fence up. To keep your animals in and to keep others out. You should always call a sheriff because if you show a pattern of them being out then the owner will be liable for their damage, more so if you would hit them with a car at night.
Posted by: cypress

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/29/17 11:11 AM

Looks like you got a picture of a raccoon on your porch as well.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/17 04:37 PM

Hand fed my fish, reassessed, rebooted.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/17 05:04 PM

Picked up another wheelbarrow load of FA we raked out Wednesday.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/17 05:14 PM

Grandson and I built a 4 foot cube to cover my aeriation pump with. Put a white roof on it and insulated the top. It has dropped my pump temps 35-40 degrees in the heat of the day!!!! Boy was it hot and humid today!! Time for a huge glass of sweet tea!!
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/17 10:55 PM

Flame, I'd love to see pictures. How did you design the sides and top and how did you insulate?

I'm really interested in making some structure for my aeration system but the Vertex people don't want me to cover it or I'll void the warranty. I have it in the shade but the metal cabinet takes a beating out in the elements.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/01/17 10:36 AM

Canyon, I sent you a PM.
Posted by: farmallsc

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/01/17 12:44 PM

Went to Overton's for a couple bags of food. We sure do enjoy the people there. They are always so helpful and friendly. I could talk to Shannon all day long.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/01/17 01:56 PM

Transplanted some more eelgrass in the new wetland/duck=pond. This time it is surrounded and covered with honey locust branches. The only thing that may get through are crayfish.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/01/17 03:59 PM

Pumping again. Pond drops 4 to 6 inches, it rains, creek has water for a day or two, then I pump the pond back up.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/17 08:13 AM

Kept my first SMB. I've been letting them go for the last year or so. My grandson caught a nice one yesterday, he was so excited, I decided to let him keep it. Having it for lunch today. My grandson was in the water for four or five hours. He'd sit in the boat for ten minutes, then just have to jump in.. Back at it again today. wink
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/17 11:20 AM

Isn't it amazing how a few fish out of a batch will be "shooters", and attain exceptional growth, while leaving the majority behind?
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/17 01:21 PM

He was used to HBG and YP, the SMB was easily twice the fish, and 10 times the fight. He's seven. Kept yelling, "help me Pops!" Ha. He got it in by himself.
YP from this morning. The pics of the SMB are on my wife's phone..
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/17 03:53 PM

Good job! He will be hooked on fishing!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/02/17 05:53 PM

What fun! Almost as much fun seeing kids have fun as having fun myself. Not to mention a lot less tiring! grin
Posted by: stickem'

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/09/17 06:56 PM

The water in the pond (8" depth) was 90 degrees today before the rain started. I increased my feeder times to 10 seconds twice daily about a week ago. The fish still manage to clean up the pellets in a couple of minutes. Caught a Lonestar Legacy LMB right as the rain was starting. She was 16" fat and thick. I hadn't hooked one in some time. Living up here sure gives me more opportunities to fish.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/17/17 12:51 PM

We raked out more FA. It is now getting to the point of diminishing returns. Guess it might come back, but I think we are removing a lot of nutrients with it. The garden is mulched with it, and there is a big compost pile of it now too.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/17/17 09:38 PM

The fish pales compared to that smile!!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/18/17 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob-O
The fish pales compared to that smile!!

Ain't that the truth!

Sad to say my partner in crime is retiring. This little tin boat has had an extremely hard life, and is about to become East TX yard art. Acres of lotus, coontail, and waterleaf met their final fate from this boat. Hundreds of pounds of CNBG and LMB were caught out of this boat. Countless brush piles were placed out of this boat.

Ultimately, she died via cutrine. And no, Flex Seal won't fix a hundred little pin holes. I'm sad, but I bet I get over it.

Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/24/17 08:00 AM

Went next door to a neighbors pond with my daughter to fish. She smoked me on catching for a while till I moved spots.... I was using a pop-R color of a peacock bass and nailed my lifetime bob best bass, she jumped three times and ripped out drag. We had taken no phones so couldn't take any pix other than in our mind. This fish went from 8-10# easily.... daughter said 10#+ a real hoss for sure. Couldn't wait to run home for a camera so we revived her and let her go.... hope she makes it... a fine fish..no pix but a memory for me and my daughter that will last
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/24/17 08:14 AM

Pat, it's great to hear about your day of fishing with your daughter. Did you revive that xtra large lmb in neighbors pond or your pond? smile I was thinking this thread is about what u did at your pond so I was thinking about where the trophy was revived. smile you know she(lmb) would put a hurt on your crappie smile
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/24/17 11:05 AM

As hot as it was I didn't want to chance loosing it to heat so.... revived in her own home. I have at least a few 5-7# bassies in my pond that already put the hurt on the BCP. Not catching hardly any BCP so not sure what's going on.......
Posted by: peachgrower

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/17 02:23 PM

I moved my feeder from the shallow end of the pond to around the point of transition or a drop off. They were slow starting..hope they will pick up in the new spot in the next few days.
Posted by: ozarkfisher

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/17 03:46 PM

Apparently I was unaware we were hosting a goose party. My brother in law took his kids out to fish in the pond. Instead he found around 16 geese....??
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/17 07:08 PM

I built a herbicide spray boom for the new tin boat. First test run was to look for leaks, and that part went well. 2 outside nozzles do the work, and the shorter center nozzle just fills out the middle. Removable drop hoses so that precut hoses can be quickly changed to allow for whatever the target depth of the day is. I think the center drop is 4', and the 2 outside ones are 6' in this video. I'm testing with a cheap 2 cycle 1" water pump that's been sitting around here for years. When it dies, I'll replace it with a 1" Honda 4 cycle pump.

First video is with the siphon off, second video is with the adjustable siphon on, and pulling diluted pasture dye from a 2 1/2 gallon jug. I waited until my wife went back to town to paint the driveway blue.








I needed to put a coupling in the pvc pipe because of the size of the system. Being able to separate the pump from the hose will make it much easier to transport.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/17 10:02 PM

The sprayer gets an honorable mention but the driveway painted blue is priceless. Did the same thing to my weed chocked gravel drive and the grandkids thought that I did paint it.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/25/17 11:45 PM

Looks great! You better get to washing off the drive, that concentration won't be gone by the end of the week.... Don't ask how I know that. whistle
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/17 07:27 AM

I like it, you may have started a new trend having the drive that Caribbean ocean blue. I am thinking my wife would give me a dirty look or maybe even a dirty word or two when she arrived back from shopping kinda of like a Homer Simpson moment smile
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/17 09:12 AM

But Marge, it matches your hair.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/17 08:18 PM

Guys, the driveway's not gonna be a problem. That fact that I'm blue from the knees down may be though. I really thought this project out before I built and tested it. I should have given the same effort to figuring out how to turn the pump off once it started pumping dye. How I also got dye on my forehead, I'll never know. PaPa Smurf comes to mind.
Posted by: sprkplug

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/17 08:30 PM

Nice work Al! A cobalt blue patch on the drive is a small price to pay for indulging your inner fabricator.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/26/17 09:10 PM

Thanks Tony. I made a few adjustments while in the boat, but that wasn't unexpected. Very simple and cheap to make, but a big time saver for me. The best part is not ever having to worry about 12 volt pump failure and Cutrine again. The only part of this whole rig the herbicides touch is the hose to the boom. I should have done this years ago.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/17 08:41 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
The only part of this whole rig the herbicides touch is the hose to the boom. I should have done this years ago.


You say that now, but wait until you miss hitting the mouth of the tank while pouring Cutrine.................

If anyone uses concentrated dye while spraying they will find out just how sloppy they really are. There is a reason why the PPE is recommended/required for applicators.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/17 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: esshup
Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
The only part of this whole rig the herbicides touch is the hose to the boom. I should have done this years ago.


You say that now, but wait until you miss hitting the mouth of the tank while pouring Cutrine.................


No pouring in the tin boat, and all the fluids and jugs are in a 27 gallon tote while in the boat. Chems were premixed in the shed.

I ordered a 5 gallon flat bottom tank today. Viscosity was an issue, and the siphon pulled smoother with a mix diluted with water. The larger tank should give me more options.

Throw something hard at me. I killed one boat, I don't want to kill another one.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/17 06:49 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot


Throw something hard at me. I killed one boat, I don't want to kill another one.


O.K., since you asked. How would you spray alum only using one pump?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/27/17 07:17 PM

Scott, I feel comfortable saying Jacques Cousteau could have found a penny 6 feet under the water, while blindfolded and standing on the bank if here. Don't think alum will ever see my pond. An occasional bloom would be nice though.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 03:35 PM

Put the solar lights on the dock this weekend.
Wow that was easy...I'm happy with them.




Solar Lights
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 04:22 PM

Nice!
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Guys, the driveway's not gonna be a problem. That fact that I'm blue from the knees down may be though. I really thought this project out before I built and tested it. I should have given the same effort to figuring out how to turn the pump off once it started pumping dye. How I also got dye on my forehead, I'll never know. PaPa Smurf comes to mind.


Nice set up! A picture of you dyed blue would have been priceless. grin
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Put the solar lights on the dock this weekend.
Wow that was easy...I'm happy with them.




Solar Lights


Looks good.....!!!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 06:42 PM

Tbar, I'm glad I saw the blue while my wife was in town. She would have let me walk around with a blue face for days without telling me.

Nice Mark. How you liking the dock?
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/31/17 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Nice Mark. How you liking the dock?


I like it a lot...it stays close to the water..low profile which I love...seems really well made. The cons: floating dock instability is something to get used to..but the instability I would describe as very minor. Also the alum or metal gets extremely hot in summer, so bare feet are a big no-no...even bending down to grab a minnow bucket can be like putting your hands on a stove...8 months a year that shouldn't be an issue....but during the day it is right now! Ha Ha
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/19/17 08:11 AM

Actually the day before yesterday, but rarely do I even know what day of the week it is anymore.

The only stipulation I had was to build a floating dock that allowed my wife to cane pole fish for CNBG with her feet in the water. She'll probably drop a few more parameters on me next time she oks something.



Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/19/17 08:34 AM

Nice Floating doc Al. Why don't you ride over with Brian next week for some Tp catching? Bring your saw and hammer we can start up on a new floating pier like yours smile It was not on my next project list but while plans are fresh in your mind smile
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/19/17 01:34 PM

Al does the platform unhinge so you can float it out and move it around the pond (like a barge) ?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/19/17 04:19 PM

Eric it does. Scott (esshup) helped me, and putting the 3 parts together was pretty easy once they hit the water.
Posted by: Lovnlivin

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/20/17 09:21 AM

Wow, that looks great, Al as does the pond!

But the goats? I don't remember the goats, new addition? (this may have been discussed, I've been a bit detached lately)

And how do they get along with the chickens? smile .
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/20/17 10:48 AM

Thanks Keith. Not sure you would even recognize the pond right now. With almost all of the coontail and lotus gone, I'm actually getting blooms again.

The goats would be Merle and June, and we got them August of last year, on they day after they got their colostrum. Our chickens dive under their pen gate the second we let them out every morning. They get along very well. I've come to love those little Nigerian babies.

Tracy, sorry I missed your post, but you're on your own with a new dock. This one almost killed me, and I'm comfortable with my DIY limit now. I'm gonna have to pass on the trip to your place, but thank you very much for the invite. Hay guy's done for the year, and it's shredder time. Brian's stopping by here on the way to your place to pick up my haul tank, and that should get those babies back to Hooterville in good shape.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/20/17 08:30 PM

very nice Al...looks great....cool billy goats!
Posted by: kswaterfowler

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 10:03 AM

I cut down some dead cedars on the back side of the dam and piled them for quail. Then I cut down some hedge and live cedars and drug them into the pond for fish habitat. Cut down a big elm on the ditch feeding the pond and piled it in a teepee shape for the quail. Praying for some good heavy road strangling rain to fill the pond.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 12:17 PM

You may well get your rain tonight. Not very often does the forecast call for 100% chance of rain over a several hour period. We still have most of our soybeans to harvest so I hope your toad strangling rain holds off about a month or six weeks. smile

I saw a quail as I was feeding fish last night. Have not seen any in a while.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 12:34 PM

they've downgraded rain chaance in Wills Point to 20%

lets get some Fall temps that stay...
84 degrees in late Oct...come on man
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 12:46 PM

I'll second that. We have had wonderful weather lately.

But a front comes through tonighte and temperatures drop significantly. I'm afraid our Indian summer (or is it now Native North American indigenous summer?..... Just does not have the same ring) is over and fall has arrived.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 12:51 PM

i want 70's as a high snrub!

i like my brother's weather in san fran...he gets neither extreme and I hate BOTH extremes....but hell I'm not moving to San Fran...lol
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 07:37 PM

I turned loose the RES in my pellet training project that have been in my aquaculture tank since early May. Pond temp is currently sitting at 62 degrees and will likely drop next week and it was time. I also ran the seine net and got some 2" RES to put aquarium for the winter just for fun. I was a little surprised to find 2 FHM in the haul, it's been six years since stocking FHM and I thought they were all gone by now.
Posted by: esshup

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/21/17 09:09 PM

It was only the first day that almost did us in. Digging the holes/setting the posts in 95įF/102įF heat index temps wasn't fun. The rest was pretty easy since you had it all framed out.

What'd we use, around 1,300 stainless deck screws??
Posted by: kswaterfowler

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 06:21 AM

We got 4" last night. Several combines pulling their bean headers drove by in the middle of it.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 08:20 AM

Originally Posted By: esshup
...What'd we use, around 1,300 stainless deck screws??


Easily 1,300. We worked on it 5-6 days, and the first day was absolutely the worst, but the last day was the best.
Posted by: toadhill

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 09:38 AM

Just joined the web site this morning. I have a question regarding the benefits or detriment of trees planted around a pond. We just moved to a farm with an existing spring fed pond. Lots of black walnuts on one side. A pond guy told us they all have to go - something about sending roots towards the water and messing up the bank. Is this true? and are there any trees we could pant where this would not be a concern. I believe there are some maples too. anyway - seems a shame to slash and burn it all. Thanks!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 10:36 AM

I am no expert on this, but other than the dam, I do not stress about trees on the banks. Trees on the dam can cause leaks. I do take out the willows as they are invasive. Its easier to take out trees later than it is to replace nice size trees. Heck, I planted bald cypress right in the water around the non-dam areas of two of my ponds. If too many leaves fall in, there could be a nutrient overload in fall, but there are many nice ponds in the woods. I know others do not share my thoughts on this. What are your goals for the pond? My ponds are for wildlife, fishing, swimming, and just enjoying the scenery.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: toadhill
Just joined the web site this morning. I have a question regarding the benefits or detriment of trees planted around a pond. A pond guy told us they all have to go - something about sending roots towards the water and messing up the bank.


Welcome toadhill. I really like the trees around my pond...in fact I am planting more. I suppose most of my trees are not right at the shoreline....most are back 10-50+ feet from the shoreline....but I love the way they "frame" the pond. Like RAH stated...some might worry about a "possible" horrible effect "if" too many Fall leaves set off some kind of chemical imbalance or attracting herons....hey it happens in nature....all I can say is my trees are staying....but each pond and each pond owner has different goals/likes/dislikes. Here's pics of mine this morning:





Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 12:15 PM

The end of the watershed for our first pond is a 12 acre woods. Seems fine and looks good in fall.

Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 01:47 PM

Looks great RAH
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 02:09 PM

Thank you Zep. We sure are fortunate. You probably have a longer season to enjoy your pond.
Posted by: kswaterfowler

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 09:34 PM

Cut down more trees. Also got a honey locust thorn in my foot. Hoping I got it all out.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/22/17 10:39 PM

Fished.

Got out on the boat and fished some of the structure I had put in before the pond had filled. Most of the time I am lazy and just fish from the bank. Had pretty good luck catching BG and CC. Caught almost all of them right on the bottom in 8-9' of water. Could hardly get a bite at the shallower levels. But then we had a 1.6" rain last night and a front went through. So I suppose that caused the fish to go deep.

Although we did not need the rain delaying soybean harvest, I was happy to see a little flow through in the main pond. Got some water exchange.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/23/17 08:23 AM

Mark, your place is beautiful as always!

RAH, although we have very different properties, it seems as though our aquatic plant goals are very similar. Randomly placed hybrid lilies, reeds, smartweed, and American pondweed all play an important part in my overall pond health, and also give it a more natural look. Iris and taro are next on our list for the more problematic boggy areas.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/23/17 08:46 AM

Thanks Al....always a work in progress smile

I'm somewhat amazed how hard it is to find people (contractors) to do anything out in the country. In Dallas if a plumber, HVAC, electrician, whatever, doesn't show up, there are a 1000 other choices all with Yelp/Angie's List ratings. Out at the property it's a really different story. You're lucky to get a return phone call...lol

I like your "friendly" aquatic plant life ideas...
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/26/18 07:59 AM

Just added the second and last (for me) board to the water control structure in the 1-acre FHM/GSH/LCS/RES/YP/SMB pond. This should bring the water up another 7" for a total of 14" of extra depth. We are dry here so that makes things easier. This should put the young bald cypress in the water, and the rip rap jetty under water (and help the papershell crayfish even more). Will need to gauge the size of the SMB this summer for growth. Neighbor was happy to harvest a nice YP early this year. He is an experienced BG fisherman (harvested over 30 from another of my ponds a couple weeks ago), but has never fished for YP before now.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/27/18 09:17 PM

My forage pond was looking scummy, and the creek is still flowing plenty of clear spring water, so decided to pump a while, and do a water change. I have made a new spot on the creek to pump that is about 140 feet closer and 4 feet less lift than times before for my 2" Honda pump. I had my wife there today with a stopwatch and we timed filling a 5 gallon bucket. The average of three tries was 2.6 seconds. That's with 350 feet of 2" pipe with a 12 foot total lift. The pipe is some utility grade with a teflon coating on the inside so it is very very slick so friction is very little. I get about 30% more water than I would through uncoated pipe, according to pump calculations. Pleasant surprise. Pump calcs showed about 81 GPM. Measured 115 GPM.
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 09:01 AM

Trimmed up a few blue spruce. The few are planted in a bit of a wet hole and they do not like having wet feet. So I trimmed the lower branches that were on the ground or near the ground to let some air flow under them. In the past this has helped the spruce with wet feet. It also keeps the bug down.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 10:05 AM

Caught a 21Ē LMB and numerous small LMB on Pop-R (small) out over open water over brush
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 01:29 PM

Fed the catfish their large pellets...quite a commotion! Moved over to the BG spawning grounds and fed them small pellets. I'm getting tons of little BG, and, what looks like baby LMBs or maybe I had a successful spawn of fatheads. My two best LMBs, about 13", eat the BG feed. Standing there throwing pellets to the BG on their beds and in comes a rocket (LMB) shooting for baby BG. Hope he got one, but two jumped out of the pond and were rescued. Scared my dog...Buttercup started barking at the water.

Question: Is it possible for one year old bass (stocked at 4 to 5 inches last July) to spawn?


Wish we could post videos! I'll try to link some FB video posts.


I also wish I could move my big smoker down to the pond (and back up fifty feet)...we are smoking cured pork belly (bacon) and cured brisket (pastrami). It is a beautiful but brutally hot and muggy day in Texas! We remember the lost and fallen today!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 02:19 PM

I decided it was time to knock down the plant growth I had allowed to grow around the pond. I had let it grow about 2 feet back from full pool line to help with runoff sediment control, but it was getting a bit unsightly, and with no rain, the plant growth is just pulling from the pond. Looks like I've got some water willow starting to take hold at water's edge in a few places. Gonna have to keep an eye on it.

Most definitely thinking about those who gave all.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 02:42 PM

Yesterday I put my diffuser in the pond and and let the aerator run for 15 minutes, then set the timer to begin a start up procedure this week. I did fish a little bit and caught a few RES. Record high yesterday of 97 degrees. crazy
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 03:46 PM

Caught some really nice BG this morning. Due to increasing water temps, it will probably be the last time this Summer.
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
Caught some really nice BG this morning. Due to increasing water temps, it will probably be the last time this Summer.


Why do you say that Dave?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
I decided it was time to knock down the plant growth I had allowed to grow around the pond. I had let it grow about 2 feet back from full pool line to help with runoff sediment control, but it was getting a bit unsightly, and with no rain, the plant growth is just pulling from the pond. Looks like I've got some water willow starting to take hold at water's edge in a few places. Gonna have to keep an eye on it.

Most definitely thinking about those who gave all.


Amen to that last sentence.

As for the plant growth, it may well have benefited your fry and YOY fish, especially BG. In my inexpert opinion, you were smart to let it be during heavy spawning period.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 07:19 PM

I would agree with you Anthropic, had any of it actually been in the water...lol. The only thing spawning up shallow are the GSF, and they've had to keep moving their beds due to the water dropping with no rain. All my BG are apparently using deeper water, as I haven't seen a single BG bed shallow. Looks like the GSF are about done anyway.

Rest in peace my brothers at arms.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 07:27 PM

Sorry, Mike. I totally misunderstood where the plants were! blush

Thanks for your service to the country.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 08:10 PM

I had an "interesting" Memorial Day weekend....a bit of a learning experience.

The guy that built the log cabins told me he would be in the area and asked if he could spend one night in a cabin he built at our property. He did a great job on the project so I gladly said "yes". He is rarely up this way and they are super nice folks.

After Fri night he approached me Sat morning and stated his wife and family were having such a good time "was it ok if they stayed a second night"? I agreed it would be ok, but was slightly concerned about the level of fishing they were doing.

These 6 folks had 5 VERY PASSIONATE fisherman among them and they were very skilled fishermen. They were there Fri, Sat, and left Sunday about noon. They fished and fished and fished and fished....they were out there Sat night at 10PM with spotlights in the dark fishing and catching.

They fished right up until the moment they left Sunday about noon. They reported they had caught over 100 fish. They released most of the fish. I had them keep catfish and few bass.

I love to have guests come out for a few hours and fish...that's really what the place is for...relaxing and catch a few fish...but I don't want people coming out and spending multiple days on a frantic pace of non-stop fishing. I just think there is some truth about fish becoming hook-shy.

I had no idea these folks were such passionate/skilled fisherman, so it really caught me by surprise. I knew the builder liked to fish, but his relatives were fishing fanatics! If they ask to come back (and I am sure they will after being so thrilled) I will have to either decline or inform them my pond is not meant to get that kind of non-stop multi-day marathon fishing pressure.

Like all of us on Pond Boss I've invested a lot of time, money, sweat, tears and will not allow a repeat of this type of event. I had never really thought about this but it is a bit of an unknown when you invite someone that brings a few family members as to what level of fanatic fishermen are in the group. I guess odds are that this was a rare circumstance. I sure hope so....



Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 08:38 PM

Wow! I can relate to the love of fishing, as I used to fish at night during the summer, but this is pushing it on a private pond. You put in the time, money, and sweat to make something special, and they should respect that.

The one person other than grandkids that I've allowed to fish at my place had to abide by some pretty strict rules, including no fishing around the feeders nor the dock. She's a great neighbor and has done lots of free bush hogging for me, so wanted to reward her. But if she did what your guests did, that would be the last time. Too much investment to let someone just abuse it!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 09:44 PM

Fishermen, I feel, could never do the level of damage to my ponds as otters did this past winter. I am close to just quitting, with otters and the leaks.
Posted by: peachgrower

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/28/18 11:54 PM

Zep, I understand completely. Our pond isnt near what most of you have, but I still find myself being very finicky about the fish, number, how they are handled, where they fish...people always wanting to be around the feeder. Lol. People do not really get it. To most it's a pond...plane and simple, nothing more, nothing less. But to us, it's the Chevelle that we did a frame off resto on... countless hours...untold dollars...then your buddy wants to take a spin in it and decides it would be cool to floor it and drift around some curves. There should be an unspoken rule for things like that...a respect. There used to be that. At least you know to be more aware next time. Sorry to hear that.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 05:55 AM

TBAR, in extreme heat, like the 104 we're about to get, the fish get too stressed and that can be fatal.
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Davidson1
TBAR, in extreme heat, like the 104 we're about to get, the fish get too stressed and that can be fatal.


Uggg........and I am having people out to fish this weekend.
Posted by: peachgrower

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 09:57 AM

Heat is crazy even past week....not even June yet...trying not to ponder July and august in my head.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: peachgrower
Heat is crazy even past week....not even June yet...trying not to ponder July and august in my head.


yes the brutality has begun
which means I am on VRBO this morning looking at Colordao destinations

Posted by: Matzilla

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 12:20 PM

lol that's funny...my wife an I were looking at colorado get aways yesterday after it was 97+ outside. I can't wait to buy some land out that way and prep for retirement!

I'm going to start heading down to my pond nightly and start feeding - lots of work to do, lots of heat, and I'm starting to get back to normal feeling after surgery
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 12:22 PM

TBAR, you might get away with it early in the morning but that won't last very long.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 03:37 PM

Saturday before memorial day I got the turtle 'floats' back out in the pond. It was steamy and over 90 all weekend so it felt good to wade around deploying them. I'm a little late this year and the turtles were anxious to get back on these safe havens. Used to have 10-12 painted turtles but only 3 little ones this year. I have one 4x4 float topped in green grass carpet in the SE and one in the NW corner so the turtles can take their pick on which one is sunny as the sun goes across the sky.

Not pond related, but saw this neat news article and video about the power of a deer who is determined to get to something. This is in the local workout facility caught on their security camera. The slow-mo part is amazing!

Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 04:44 PM

Water temp is up to 65 so we added dye for the first time this year and turned the aerators timer to run at night 12 hours only. It helps keep our water temp down all summer and the alga. The perch like to feed all summer running it this way.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 06:19 PM

Went out and hand fed my fish (usually every afternoon after work). I am really amazed at how big some of these sunfish are starting to get. Couldn't tell if they were GSF or BG, but some of them were really broad across the side which makes me think BG, but even those that I know were GSF looked to be 7-8". Actually saw a few BHC feeding underneath. First time for that. I kept waiting to see one of my 3 LMB come screaming thru for an easy meal, but alas, they were a no show. My fish dont seem to feed like I've read others describe. They're fairly energetic for the first few seconds, breaking water and knocking each other around, then settle down quickly and feed mostly subsurface. The bigger fish seem to get their fill and disappear.

Aint feeding your fish fun!!??
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/29/18 10:54 PM

My bride & I replenished all the TH feeders at our BOW. Good thing we did, as two of them had run out of food, and one was jammed!

Visibility good, about 30 inches. Fair amount of algae, so the recently stocked TP should do well. Fish still respond to feed eagerly, but if the temps stay elevated this will likely change.

Still no bird sign, a welcome change from the GBH, cormorants, and geese earlier this spring!
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/31/18 03:06 PM

Added aeration to my 1/4 pond today, nice unit.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/31/18 06:00 PM

Have t heard of that brand. Where did you get it?
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 05/31/18 06:15 PM

https://webbsonline.com/Item/99904
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/01/18 06:09 AM

Thanks
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/01/18 03:11 PM

Hey all sorry it's been a minute I been busy needless to say. Hope everyone is doing good. Thought I would post what we did at the pond this last weekend.















It's a 16x21 pole barn not quite done just yet but gonna be for fire wood and 4 wheelers. Plus I have an extension on the side of it for my bass tracker once it's all done. I will have a few more pics coming once we get it all done this next weekend.


Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/01/18 03:41 PM

Now that's some gumption! It looks real nice RC.
Posted by: RC51

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/01/18 03:57 PM

Thanks QA it would have been real tuff but our great next door neighbor sure helped us out by digging the post holes!! He's just one of those great guys you don't find anymore. Wouldn't take any money for helping us and said you never know I may need your help one day! That's a true neighbor right there!! Gonna do other half of roof and front this weekend and maybe do the bass boat section not sure if we will have time. Plus it's fricken hot here now!! smile I don't want my dad to push it to hard in this heat cause he wont stop unless I make him... dang guy! He doesn't have a quit button... smile
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 06:39 PM

This morning I transplanted about a ton of northern Ark river stone around the spawning area of my pond. Some of these suckers were close to 50 lb stones. Unfortunately, a couple of them decided they wanted to be deeper than I planned and took a walk right off the ledge and didn't stop till they were out in the middle.

Then I soaked a couple of traps and caught some pretty little shellcrackers to add to my mix of mutts.

Fed again this afternoon and am seeing loads of fry of one sort or another. I've got FHM, GSF and BG all spawning now. Fry ranging from 1/4" to 1 1/2". Too small to identify species, but it's good to see them.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 07:16 PM

Sounds good, Mike! Always encouraging to see spawning success.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 07:27 PM

I added some fry/yoy condos today.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 08:31 PM

Hey CMM, What kind of grass is that growing in your pond? I need sumadat!! I'm virtually nill in the cover area. Want something that'll stay shallow. That stuff would work well.

Those trees should make good cover, too. How deep did you set them?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
Hey CMM, What kind of grass is that growing in your pond? I need sumadat!! I'm virtually nill in the cover area. Want something that'll stay shallow. That stuff would work well.


Looks like American Pondweed to my untutored eye. I have some at my pond, too, though not as dense as CMM.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/03/18 10:28 PM

Yup....according to Wikipedia anyway. From what I gather, it can grow to depths of 5-6 feet? Does that sound right? If so, I'll have to pass on APW. I need something that'll grow to about 3 feet deep. Probably not gonna find that.

The pond on my old duck lease was full of some kind of lilly. My brother said it was banana lilly, IDK. It sure did draw in the ducks tho, and the fish seemed to love being in it.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/18 07:18 AM

I attempted to find an air leak in the line which feeds my aeration system. 5 out of 6 diffusers are doing pretty good but that six one is getting little air and naturally it is the one line that travels the farthest. If it was leaking in the water I would see it bubbling but it's not. So, now I will have to back track about 2,000' of line and connections. Not sure if there is a large spot leaking or a little at every connection. There is a little air leaking at or near the connections as it comes off the compressor, but not enough to really cause a problem. I added a little soapy water and found bubbles but I don't think it is enough to stop that 6th diffuser from working. Will Darn it, another task that was not in my plans.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/18 06:15 PM

MIke, I am not sure what kind of grass it is, but if you want some, come on over, I'll let you have a start of it. There is probably at least two kinds, one I am sure is a type of burr reed. It gets about 2' tall, does well in an inch of water and at wet shore line and can be fully submerged for several days without dying.

The trees are artificial Christmas tree sections. I get them at auctions for a buck or two. I set them anywhere from 6' to 2'. I have even bunched branches together and staked them into the mud in 1' of water.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/18 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
Hey CMM, What kind of grass is that growing in your pond? I need sumadat!! I'm virtually nill in the cover area. Want something that'll stay shallow. That stuff would work well.


Looks like American Pondweed to my untutored eye. I have some at my pond, too, though not as dense as CMM.


Ah, I thought he was talking about the taller stuff right at the shore. Yes, the floating plant is APW. I love it and don't find that it grows too deep at my place, maybe 2' or so. Maybe in very clear water it would grow deeper?

My bass and bluegill both stage under that stuff; drop a popper in or a weedless fly, wiggle it a time or two and if something doesn't hit it through the weeds, it will almost surely hit it when you get to the edge!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/04/18 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: CMM
MIke, I am not sure what kind of grass it is, but if you want some, come on over, I'll let you have a start of it. There is probably at least two kinds, one I am sure is a type of burr reed. It gets about 2' tall, does well in an inch of water and at wet shore line and can be fully submerged for several days without dying.

The trees are artificial Christmas tree sections. I get them at auctions for a buck or two. I set them anywhere from 6' to 2'. I have even bunched branches together and staked them into the mud in 1' of water.


What's been your experience with artificial trees? Do fish use them as well as natural brush? How long do they last in the water?
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/05/18 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Originally Posted By: CMM
MIke, I am not sure what kind of grass it is, but if you want some, come on over, I'll let you have a start of it. There is probably at least two kinds, one I am sure is a type of burr reed. It gets about 2' tall, does well in an inch of water and at wet shore line and can be fully submerged for several days without dying.

The trees are artificial Christmas tree sections. I get them at auctions for a buck or two. I set them anywhere from 6' to 2'. I have even bunched branches together and staked them into the mud in 1' of water.


What's been your experience with artificial trees? Do fish use them as well as natural brush? How long do they last in the water?


Anthropic,

Like any other structure, it depends on where I put it as to how quickly it is used and by what species. I like the artificial trees due to the dense structure that can shelter lots of small fry. I fished one of the artificial trees I placed on Sunday last night, I got 3 bg around 7 inches, 1 bg 9" and an 18" LM (on a tiny little nymph!). That one is about 8' from shore, but in only about 3' of water and is very close to my main feeding area. Another set of 3 sections I placed 3 weeks ago I haven't been able to catch anything off of yet. It's in deeper water, on the other side of the pond near a drop off between a spawning area and deep water. I thought it would attract fish.

As for how long they last, I don't have an answer for that. They certainly last longer than the cedar trees I put in. I have branches in shallow water that I placed over 2 years ago that have no deterioration I can see. They get lots of "stuff" on them, bugs, snails, algae and whatnot, but don't drop needles. I suppose the metal frame will rust at some point.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/18 02:13 PM

Thanks. I've secured an artificial Christmas tree & plan to deploy it near CNBG spawning beds which are devoid of any cover. Gotta be strategic! cool

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/18 02:40 PM

Had my Ohio friend over for some fishing at my BOW. He just about melted in the heat, but had a blast catching LMB on a spinnerbait.

Despite high temps, fish still take feed eagerly. Sadly, Big CNBG got mostly wiped out by fungus last fall. I haven't seen one exceed 7 inches this year, while last year the bigguns were over 8 inches frown

On the plus side, population of small CNBG has exploded & YOY are everywhere. Last year smaller CNBG were very scarce due to poor recruitment.

LMB are naive about lures & extremely aggressive. Noticed that the side with 3 feeders was MUCH better than side with only 1, and I don't think it is just that LMB take feed. They are also targeting the CNBG that come to be fed!

Bass were heavy. Most seemed to be in the 15 to 18 inch range, around 2.5 to 4 lb. Very stocky, husky, hard fighters. No sign of parasites or fungus. Most of what we caught were feed trained N LMB, I'm sure. The overpopulation of small LMB has been cut sharply since last fall, likely by the N LMB stocked back then.

The good side of the lake not only has more feeders, it also gets evening shade from the pine trees. The other side gets shade in the morning, but not after. That could be a factor, especially when fishing in the evening.

PS I'm gonna mostly shut down LMB fishing for a few months, water is getting too hot & they fight HARD. Also, of course, I don't want them to get lure shy! But I do have an idea: Take the hooks off a topwater Jitterbug & cast that. I caught several nice LMB on topwaters, awesome to see the blowups, but the double trebles were tough to get out quickly. Going hookless means having the fun of seeing the hits without harming LMB nor teaching them (and their progeny) to be passive.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/14/18 07:08 PM

Hmmmmm.....just where in our great state are you?? I just may have to take a trip and take you up on the APW offer!!

Someone told me a few weeks ago about driving a pipe in the ground at water's edge and to tap on it before I started feeding. Well I finally decided to give it a try. Put it in earlier this week. It's absolutely crazy!!! I tap on it with a small rock and fish come from EVERYWHERE!! Even my three LMB! But they aren't there for the pellets!!

I've definitely got to get some cover down, but it's hard to deploy with such steep sides on the pond. And I don't want to put too much. Those 3 LMB got a lot of eating to do!!! Two of them have apparently become buddies as they're always together now.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 01:54 AM

Hey, Mike. I live in the Shreveport area, but my BOW is near Marshall, Texas. Which means I get to stock TP!

You'd be welcome to drop by & fish when temps aren't quite so hot. I like to hear other people's perspective on ponds & fishing, it is quite educational to a newbie like myself.

Sounds like your pond is doing better, I remember you were concerned when the fish stopped feeding for a bit. Good to hear things have improved!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 04:51 AM

That sounds like a plan in the making!! I'll try to talk the wife into taking a little road trip up your way sometime soon.

I guess my initial concern with the high surface temps were partially unfounded. Apparently these fish don't mind the warm water. The banks are littered with small fish in inches of water when I get home and they're ganged up waiting where I feed them. If i walk the bank theres a big wad of puppies following me.

I need to figure out a way to measure temps at different depths. I'm guessing that they must have a sufficient sanctuary out in deeper water. Still find one floating occasionally but I guess that's to be expected as well.

From this point on I'll let the fish tell me what's happening and hope I can get it resolved before it's too late. Hopefully I'll be securing an aeration system before too long.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 08:54 PM

What I did today was get disappointed.

I stopped by the local co-op and picked a sack of Aquamax 500. Decided I wanted to use it instead of the Game Fish Chow. They ate it pretty well, but the smaller fish had a tough time due to the consistent size of the pellets, where GFC has mixed sizes...disappointment #1.

Then I mowed my grass and ran the weed eater around the pond, wanting to get it done before it started raining....sweated my hind end off....disappointment #2.

After dinner I decided to bait my two clover leafs with some of the GFC and set them out while I dunked a night crawler to try to catch a few BHC. Caught two right off the bat then the bite just quit....#3

So I pull up my first trap only to find a dang crappie in it. Now I've got a real mutt pond!

After 6 or 7 sets, this is the first crappie I've caught. About 4.5" long. I was hoping the Harvey flood had spared me of those fish, but my luck ain't that good. It went in the tank with the 2 BHC to be released into the bayou down the road. Here's the list of known species now...GSF, BG, RES, Warmouth, Pumpkinseed, LMB, BHC and now Crappie. Doubt seriously it's a black and what's the odds it was all by it's lonesome.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 09:35 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Hey, Mike. I live in the Shreveport area, but my BOW is near Marshall, Texas. Which means I get to stock TP!


How long a drive is it to your pond from your residence?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
What I did today was get disappointed.

I stopped by the local co-op and picked a sack of Aquamax 500. Decided I wanted to use it instead of the Game Fish Chow. They ate it pretty well, but the smaller fish had a tough time due to the consistent size of the pellets, where GFC has mixed sizes...disappointment #1.

Then I mowed my grass and ran the weed eater around the pond, wanting to get it done before it started raining....sweated my hind end off....disappointment #2.

After dinner I decided to bait my two clover leafs with some of the GFC and set them out while I dunked a night crawler to try to catch a few BHC. Caught two right off the bat then the bite just quit....#3

So I pull up my first trap only to find a dang crappie in it. Now I've got a real mutt pond!

After 6 or 7 sets, this is the first crappie I've caught. About 4.5" long. I was hoping the Harvey flood had spared me of those fish, but my luck ain't that good. It went in the tank with the 2 BHC to be released into the bayou down the road. Here's the list of known species now...GSF, BG, RES, Warmouth, Pumpkinseed, LMB, BHC and now Crappie. Doubt seriously it's a black and what's the odds it was all by it's lonesome.


Harvey messed with a LOT of ponds all across southeast Tx and southwest LA, Mike. Sorry to hear that you got some unwanted guests.

I didn't realize that pumpkinseed live that far south, always thought they were Yankee fish. Now that you have some LMB, maybe your intruders will end up feeding them. BG outbreed almost all other sunfish with the exception of CNBG.

My "fun" time at the pond was trying to get my generator started. No matter how hard I pulled, no matter how many times I pulled, nothing doing. Sweated like a pig, extremely irritated... And then I realized that it was switched to the OFF position. shocked
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/15/18 10:55 PM

That sounds like something I would do!! Lol. Thanks for the chuckle. I needed that.

I call them pumpkinseed, but that may not be their real name. Body like a BG (broad sided) lots of bright green, almost flourescent coloring and a thin white stripe at the end of the earlobe, like a RES would have, but white. Watched two of them this evening dancing around in circles like they wanted to mate. Biggest I've seen is maybe 3".

The LMB are trying their hardest to make life rough for anything shorter than 3 inches. My biggest, maybe just over 12", made several passes through the feeding fish, then I saw other commotion in the main bedding area that had to be bass. Busting heads in inches of water. They keep at it like this and I may have a lunker in no time. They look pretty healthy from what I can see in a split second. I hope they're treating the BHC just as harshly and eat every crappie they come across.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/29/18 09:09 PM

Ive been watching this BG tending a nest on and off for a while and I hate to admit it, but curiousity just got the better of me. I rigged a small piece of gulp worm on a lite wire hook, no weigh, no bobber and used my crappie rod to swing about 10 feet of line out. After about three tries to get it to fall in the nest he finally bit. I've personally stocked maybe 25 BG from 3-5" maybe two months ago. The biggest being a nice looking male. If this is that same fish, he's done very well for himself, being every bit of 7". If he is one of my miracle fish, I'm wondering now how many others are in there with him. Haven't seen anything like him while feeding, tho. He was a bit thin, but I attribute that to him being on the bed. Put him right back.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 01:35 AM

Great progress, Mike! If the LMB keep BG numbers under control, you will have some real beauties soon.

My bride & I replenished the feeders today. Incredibly hot, 98 to 100 all the way to the pond. On the positive side, they still ate pretty eagerly, though not quite as voraciously as a month ago when water temps were 5 to 10 F lower.

Have yet to see a HSB or TP around the feeders, but neither have I seen any floaters. Viz still around 3 feet, a little murky for my BOW. Nice weed growth around the edges, but it's good that most of the pond drops off sharply! Observed plenty of small fish in the shallow weeds, mostly BG/CNBG, which is encouraging after the recruitment problems I've had the last couple of years.

Only negative: GBH population has doubled from one to two. They don't get along very well, big one chased the smaller one to the other side of water.

Raccoon marks all over the feeders, desperate to get in. Ants have succeeded in doing so in a couple of places, will have to take steps.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 06:20 AM

Try greasing the legs of the feeder.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 08:23 AM

I almost never saw hsb at the feeder when I had threadfin shad. But I lost those Tfs this winter and now the hsb come to the feeders.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 09:07 AM

What kind of grease? No ants in my feeder but have been a bunch under the feeder. Feeder does set out in the rain so don't want any chemical being washed into the pond. What is recommended?? I have actually watched GBH fight each other for territory on Lake Sam Rayburn. They can get brutal!! My GBH actually ran a commorant off my pond awhile back!!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 09:13 AM

I went out this morning using the same rig as last evening while the wife was starting breakfast. Just walking the edge all around the pond. No significant bites, but I did see a very diverse mix.

Naturally, more GSF than anything, but not much more. Also caught BG, one small WMS, and one small RES. Mostly in the 2.5-4" range. The BG, even at that size, are already sporting that humped forehead, so I'm assuming they're growing well. GSF all had bloated bellies so there's no doubt they're feeding well. Probably around 25 fish in both outings.

I have to finish the roof on my outside kitchen today so may try again later after it gets warmer and too hot to swing a framing gun.

I'm liking that I haven't spent a dime on fish and have what looks like a good mix. I may invest in a few larger RES to help them out tho.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 09:29 AM

As a side note, Ive numbered my three LMB, the smallest being #1 @ 10.5" largest (last one I stocked) is #3 @ just under 13 when they were introduced. I know water magnifies everything you see swimming but I swear #3 looks like it's grown 2" already. It's claimed the spawning ground as it's regular haunt and I see it daily.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
As a side note, Ive numbered my three LMB, the smallest being #1 @ 10.5" largest (last one I stocked) is #3 @ just under 13 when they were introduced. I know water magnifies everything you see swimming but I swear #3 looks like it's grown 2" already. It's claimed the spawning ground as it's regular haunt and I see it daily.


Funny how LMB will do that, Mike. I have one in my pond that has established its own particular kill zone under the weeds next to the dock. We regularly see & hear an explosion there as it nails a BG.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 06/30/18 01:31 PM

What's really cool is being able to sit at my dining table, looking out at the pond, seeing all the bulls circling their nests and watch it pull up like a dragster on the starting line and then explode over 10 feet in just a nanosecond to claim another victim. Amazing
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 11:40 AM

Since I have finally brought my little pond king paddle wheel boat to its new home, I took the opportunity to get out in the middle this morning and get a more accurate depth reading.

Looks like my dirt guy underestimated the depth. All this time I was going by his info that the pond was 12 foot deep, but it's only 10.5, which also reduces my average depth to about 8 feet. Luckily it's at full pool so it's an accurate reading.

Unfortunately, I've lost a quarter acre foot of water instantly. But the brighter side is now I know exactly how deep my diffuser will be and what kind of psi I'll truly need to get optimum output. Gonna really have to keep an eye on my biomass since that capacity has now been reduced as well.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 03:39 PM

Similar story here, Mike. My BOW is supposed to be max 24 - 25 feet deep at full pool, but Justin Stane mapped it out to be around 18 - 19 feet. Even correcting a couple of feet for summer drought, that's several feet less than estimated.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Similar story here, Mike. My BOW is supposed to be max 24 - 25 feet deep at full pool, but Justin Stane mapped it out to be around 18 - 19 feet. Even correcting a couple of feet for summer drought, that's several feet less than estimated.


Good thing about it....the smaller it gets, the easier it is to take care of!!

I'm wondering how much a quarter acre foot of water reduction affects carrying capacity. Can't be by too much with aeration (when I get put in) and feeding.
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 05:48 PM

Ducks the wife wanted.
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 05:49 PM

Then of course she needed a house for them.
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 05:50 PM

Then about a week ago I had a well drilled, got tired of watching the water go down with no rain.
Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 05:51 PM

Lastly I had to build a well house for the well head.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 06:13 PM

Fantastic Tommy! A pumphouse after my own heart. Here's mine recently installed for the air pump. I have not figured out how to incorporate the "moon" yet...

Posted by: tommyt

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/15/18 06:27 PM

I just cut mine out of treated plywood and painted it black.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/16/18 11:29 PM

We're gonna have to get a septic tank built for our new home on the pond. Hopefully for indoor toilets!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/17/18 12:37 AM

They have indoor toilets now!! What will they think of next
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 07/17/18 01:22 AM

I've a good friend who still won't get a cellphone.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/01/18 06:16 PM

Justin Stane came over to put together and deploy artificial habitat. Good guy, good attitude, my wife remarked afterward how much she liked him.

We created two shoreline fishing spots for the grandkids, plus enhanced a point on the island, plus sunk a rootball and an artificial Christmas tree near CNBG spawning beds. Very productive morning.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/01/18 07:13 PM

Mowed and spruced up around the pond getting ready for my wifes family reunion at our place tomorrow. Got the cane poles ready and tomorrow after lunch I will be helping around a dozen kids with catching BG. I'll be busy.

Did the same thing two years ago and for most of the kids it was the first time they had ever went fishing. BG were biting and it was one right after another.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/01/18 09:01 PM

I fished and thinned down some of my pellet thieving golden shiners, I have removed 51 GSH in the 6-9" size range this week. Still lots more to go.
Posted by: DonoBBD

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/02/18 08:47 AM

We had a thought that our pond was leaking down but with so much water around and a pump it has never been a problem....until.

The wheat came off the farm and the chaff blew into the pond. I know from the past that if I do not dose dye heavy right away the alga will get out of hand.

Double the dye and it is super blue I mean the crayfish are blue for a few days after molting. I happen to stop on the road and look into the creek that passes our farm and what the he!! the creek its blue.....doe.

I grab a white bucket and fill it with the water that is coming out of a 10" drain that passes our frontage and drains into the creek. Yep the bucket water was blue.

Call up my golfing buddy that is a plumber and ask about a camera. Found these guys to come and scope the 10" drain. $400 later we found an old clay 4" that looks to have run right through our pond. Marked it with GPS. The only water coming down the 10" at the time of the scope was from this 4" tile.

Today we dug up this 4" and it was running over half full from our pond into the creek. We dug up 20 feet of tile with a mini EX, and hand dug up the end heading to the pond to get out a full tile then rubber test plugged off the tile. Plugged it off where it entered the 10" so we don't get any back ups.

Long story long I will have an extra burshless 5500 gallon per hour pump to put on the water fall next spring.

Cheers Don.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/02/18 10:03 AM

That is great news you found a leak and plugged it DonnoBBD. With all the things we do purposely for management, sometimes it still boils down to being lucky to get something fixed. Lucky you put so much dye in caused you to find a leak.
Posted by: Clay N' Pray

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/02/18 07:31 PM

I trapped approx 50 3" BG from the neighbors pond. I carried them back to my pond, clipped tails and fed them to my bass.
I absolutely love that cloverleaf trap.
It wasn't cheap but dang it works great!

Sipping a cold beer and tossing bluegill to hungry LMB may very well be my second favorite thing to do.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/02/18 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Clay N' Pray
I trapped approx 50 3" BG from the neighbors pond. I carried them back to my pond, clipped tails and fed them to my bass.
I absolutely love that cloverleaf trap.
It wasn't cheap but dang it works great!

Sipping a cold beer and tossing bluegill to hungry LMB may very well be my second favorite thing to do.


I sure hope your neighbor "volunteered" his BG as fish food!!! LOL
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/02/18 09:08 PM

I mowed most of the heavy grass around the old pond, down to about 30 inches below full pool. Right now, it's about 33.5 inches low, and not visibly leaking at that level. The new pond is about 10.5 inches low.
Posted by: Clay N' Pray

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
Originally Posted By: Clay N' Pray
I trapped approx 50 3" BG from the neighbors pond. I carried them back to my pond, clipped tails and fed them to my bass.
I absolutely love that cloverleaf trap.
It wasn't cheap but dang it works great!

Sipping a cold beer and tossing bluegill to hungry LMB may very well be my second favorite thing to do.


I sure hope your neighbor "volunteered" his BG as fish food!!! LOL


His pond has been poorly managed for many years. Bluegill are thick as thieves.
Huge bass, but not many of them.
Typical non managed southern farm pond. He had catfish and 2 grass carp but they died of old age (15 years +/- for the record)
He is fine with me taking all the bluegill i can carry.

Truth be told, I was so jealous of his pond, I bought my own. I have a lot of nice toys but my pond is by far my favorite.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 07:28 AM

I did not do a darn thing yesterday, had a birthday party to attend. I did kill off a red wasp nest from under my floating pier the day before yesterday. They will build a nest under the boards just above the water and between the floats. But only after two of use were stung. Dam red wasp are mean! Plans are for today to remove (cut and spray) some more willows from the shoreline. Looks like Labor day (today) is a labor day
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 10:51 AM

It's been cloudy and raining here on and off all weekend. Started again sometime last night and hasn't stopped. Not hard, but constant. Haven't seen much rise in elevation, still about 6 inches low. The areator shut off just before 8 (runs 6 hours)this morning, so I gave it a little while and grabbed my pool thermometer and checked the surface temp. Still measuring 84 degrees on top. Didn't check it lower (still raining), but if I'm maintaining that 3 degree variance top to bottom, should be around 80 at depth. That's a drop of 8 degrees in four days. Nice and slow drop!!

Think I'm ok temp wise. Wasn't too sure how cool this rain was and with temps dropping, the DO level should be getting higher.

Calling for rain all week, and now we have TS Gordon to keep an eye on, almost one year to the day after Harvey.

Not gonna let it get me down tho, I got ribs to bbq in a bit!! Glad my deck is covered!!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 11:35 AM

Removed fish from kids hooks and removed deep hooks. I'll have to say that the kids did darn good though handling the fish compared to last year(edit: it was two years ago - senior moment). I had it easy this year compared to last.

They seemed to have a great time and stayed with it a lot longer than I would have imagined.

Recuperating today. Maybe catch a few small smallies to transfer to other ponds later today.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 01:46 PM

Snrub, don't say this often but you're alright, Feel free to insult me anytime,
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/03/18 02:00 PM

Even the rain doesn't stop some anglers. Watched him for 30 minutes working around the pond. He caught several tiny minnows and I'm sure a few YOY.

Every day is a day on the pond around here.

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Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 07:35 AM

I thought it very strange that yesterday morning about 9am ahead of a little shower a flock of about 25 martins were flying everywhere around the pond. I don't have martin houses and no neighbors within a 1/2 mile of the pond that might. Around noon I was back down at the pond and not a bird in sight. I must say about a week ago I did see about 100 large dragon flies flying around the pond and don't see any now.I know martins eat dragonflies and I don't like that because dragonflies eat mosquitos but while all the martins were flying I saw no dragonflies anywhere. Just an observation.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 07:43 AM

Yesterday at the pond around 6pm it has been overcast for 2 days and water temps are down. Had the wife go ahead and cast a little beetlespin type bait with a soft plastic "icycle" as a trailer and she caught her FIRST lmb from the pond. For fun she was fishing with a Pink Barbie Zebco 202 extremely light action set up. I had respooled it with 12 pound line thank goodness. She caught a 17 inch Florida lmb that weighed near 3 pounds on that tiny set up. She had fun and I had a blast watching her fight that thing in!!!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 08:03 AM

James tell her congrats! Good job on her part..... beware you donít create a monster.... lol fun when the plan comes together ainít it?
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 08:58 AM

I built a 4' X 10' dock using a hardware kit as a starting point and the entire thing happened over the course of 2 days. The first day was getting the frame built and mounted on the poles. The 2nd day was the decking and bracing. All in 90 degree weather so it was slow going.



I do need a more permanent solution for the step but that will wait until the water level comes back up. The dock is high enough that it should be above the normal level except for when it floods during the Spring rains.

The container holds the aeration pump and connections to the fountain, etc. and will likely build a shelf on the pole for it to reside a bit higher and more out of the way.



A permanent power run needs to be installed but the extension cord has worked for a number of years and is GFCI protected so I'm in no rush at this time.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 09:00 AM

Looks good! Heat has been brutal, but it looks to be heading for cooler temp.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 09:13 AM

I'm told that if you put your compressor in a tote that you will kill it shortly (or shorten its life significantly) due to build up of heat and possibly moisture.

I have a commercial kit with a aluminum housing to keep water away but I was told if you even change the color of the housing it will void any warranty. I've had 2 high water events and nearly got water in the system as it sets on the ground on the bank.

I was tempted to put it in a tote or something that would protect it better, but worried about any type of enclosure that would add heat or limit air flow. Your experience having it in a tote?
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 09:22 AM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
I'm told that if you put your compressor in a tote that you will kill it shortly (or shorten its life significantly) due to build up of heat and possibly moisture.


I actually have a fan installed and ran thermal tests with the compressor running. The cooling fan, which runs all the time, blows directly on the compressor and exits out the other side via a pair of vents. Testing shows about a 15 degree increase over the ambient temperature so I believe I should be good. However I do need to run another test with it out in the sun to confirm.

I'm also only running it for 4 hours in the early morning hours (3am-7am) as the daytime pond temps at the surface get into the high 80's to low 90's. While I'm pretty sure things are OK I'll double check the static temps to make sure.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 11:04 AM

I built my own large plastic box even with screens for heat to exit and a fan blowing on it and it still ran 150 Degrees!!!! manufacturer said pump should not exceed around 120 max. I ended up building a 4 foot square cube wood frame box with window screen all the way around on removable panels for access to everything. I insulated the roof and put white metal on top. It runs 24 hours a day in this east Texas hot climate. On a 100 degree day the pump still only ran 102degree. Overcast today and pump is 87 degrees. From experience in your case I would at least..paint the box gloss white and make sure it has a white top!!! Will make a huge difference. I notice you are running a smaller pump than me and only 4 hrs a day so my setup may be a huge overkill for you but....think air flow,air flow, air flow is key....And keep it dry. Good luck
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 06:13 PM

As is my norm, I fed the fish when I got home. Nothing unusual. Didn't notice anything out of the ordinary at the time, and did a quick check of the surface temp (88*). After I ate dinner, maybe an hour later, I looked out at the pond and noticed a very dark, almost tannic colored area of water right in the middle of the pond, over the deepest area. Upon closer inspection, the darkness was an area of what looked like water turning over(that brown scum that comes up when a BOW flips. It also had a field of bubbles all through it. All in a matter of an hour. And it covered over half of the pond.

I started mildly freaking out!! "The water's too warm to turn over!" Im thinking. What the crap!!

After I think some more (a sometimes dangerous prospect) I deduce it may be a dieing algae plum (considering we've had several days of heavy cloud cover) and that means DO is most likely being rapidly consumed.....so on came the aerator!

Sure am glad I've got one now. I hate to think what the outcome may have been had the pond been off site and I weren't around to catch it. That's both a blessing and a plague sometimes, tho.

BTW....the fish were ravenous today!!!
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 07:39 PM

No expert here but I read here that the carnivorous animal plankton are brown and that they succeed the green planktonic algae by eating them. I too have seen brown streaks late in the day.
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 07:51 PM

I haven't had red wasps move in under my pier yet. They have explored. I fear that as the deck boards shrink, the wasps could ambush. They do hurt, for days.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 08:50 PM

I have heard if you have dirt daubers or mud daubers they will keep wasps away. I let all the mud daubers hang around on anything not too important to keep clean. In 4 years now I have never had a wasp nest on my dock. Did have one in a small fiberglass bass boat I keep near by.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/04/18 10:19 PM

I'm not so sure about that, Flame. At our old place, which was right on the Sabine River, we were infested with mud daubers, and those nasty red river wasps that will run you out of a boat if you mess with them. The kind that build plate sized nests in cypress branches right where you want to cast a bait. I was going thru a couple cans of wasp spray every summer keeping them off and out from under the porches.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/06/18 07:47 PM

Today was "Rake FA Day". Took my oversized yard rake, turned upside down, and combed thru the emergent grasses and water willow to gently lift as much FA off the perimeter of the pond as I could reach. Only took about 30 minutes and I removed about 30 pounds of scum. Still some floating around, but I'll get it once the aerator pushes it to the banks again.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/07/18 08:46 AM

I still get wasp nests around my house. Just not down by the pond on the boat dock 200 ft. away. For whatever the reason...I'm just glad wasps don't bother me on the dock while fishing!!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/07/18 09:12 AM

I'll be removing the perforated board at the top of my water control box in the big pond and putting the plastic storage boxes that are on the fixed dock up on the dam in preparation for the 5+ inches of rain predicted through the weekend. That should flush out the ponds, wetlands, and streams around here!
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/07/18 11:04 AM

Wow, do you need the rain?
Last week in total we got 9-10" of rain, with a big plunge during a bad storm on Tuesday night (lots of straight line winds, 5 tornados in mid MI but fortunately category 0 or 1) and then a little more on some subsequent fronts that came through.

Pond overflowed significantly (seems like these 100 year rains are happening about every year lately) The woods fills with water during overflow. No issue but I'm thinking having an overflow conduit would be nice just to direct it more quickly into the woods and where I want it. As it comes up it also flows into my front yard and due to the additional daily rain for a week the grass is dead by the time the water finds its way down into the soil.

Knowing what we have been talking about today about fish finding a way to swim out of ponds I looked in the puddles in the woods for any small fish and didn't see any. My small fish are mostly GSH minnows and they would have been pretty easy to spot due to the fact that they never sit still. No perch and no RES seen, perhaps because they prefer the bottom?

If only the goldfish would swim into the woods...
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/07/18 04:52 PM

Don't need any more rain. Already got about 2" with over 4" more expected. Glad house is high and dry!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/07/18 08:27 PM

This week I mowed the grass at 30" below full pool. If the pond ever comes up again, it will look like a pond in a lawn.
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/08/18 10:23 AM

Since the rain is going to be nonstop for a few days and the pond is likely to rise 5+ feet and overflow I went out and pulled the larger weeds which were beginning to be submerged. A royal PITA to hand pull but no real other choice as the water already came up a few feet and has 2 more to go to reach normal level.

Water is literally pouring in on the side with the the drain tile for the fields along with the other field runoff we get through the yard. I'm guessing we're getting 60-80 GPM if not more and since the ground is saturated I expect to have a the other 2 feet filled before evening.

On the plus side, when the pond overflows into the yard it pushes most of the loose material onto the grass and leaves it there.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/08/18 06:49 PM

Meanwhile, in northeast Texas we need rain. Sigh.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/08/18 07:31 PM

I figured some of this might slide up thru y'all.... guess not.

Since everything I do out in the yard is literally out by the pond I guess this qualifies. I've been converting a single car 12◊20 metal awning into an enclosed building. Been working on it several weekends now. Sides are done, elevated floor is done and framed in one end with double 4 foot doors today....all between rain showers....sorry guys. Pond is full again.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 07:35 AM

I started the day with hand feeding Aquamax lmb to the HSB and LMB. And there will be some larger sized CNBG that join in. Then I disked up a one acre food plot next to the pond and planted some winter wheat, oats and peas. This one acre spot has been a food plot for years and is well used by the deer and rabbits. We got a good rain yesterday afternoon so the food plot should be popping up in a few days. We don't hunt this food plot, it's just a place that gets a lot of deer activity year round and is a nice place to view next to the pond.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 07:57 AM

Sounds like my kind of place, Tracy. If I weren't in a residential area, I'd be tempted to do something like that.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 08:14 AM

Year before last or maybe last year lol, I sat on the hill top which is about 100 yds away from that food plot and watched a nice 8pt feeding in the corner of the plot as I watched 50 or so ducks come into the pond. They came in groups of 10 or so. I was a nice picture all in all. I have several food plots I am working on right now. Have about 6 more to get disked up and seeded in the next few weeks. After years of experimenting on what seeds to plant I have narrowed it down to Elbon Rye, Winter wheat and a few oats. I add the peas I have left over from spring plots. They like new pea sprouts but they don't last very long.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 08:54 AM

Ive used peas too. Along with winter wheat and some mixed broad leaves like mustard and cale. Youre right about the peas....they dont last long!!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 08:57 AM

Originally Posted By: RAH
I'll be removing the perforated board at the top of my water control box in the big pond and putting the plastic storage boxes that are on the fixed dock up on the dam in preparation for the 5+ inches of rain predicted through the weekend. That should flush out the ponds, wetlands, and streams around here!


Did y'all get the rain you were expecting??
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/09/18 12:47 PM

Got at least 4" but my rain gauge is now under a tree (put it up a long time ago). All the ponds are full. It came mostly slow and steady and most of my bodies of water are not all that muddy. Settling ponds/wetlands are working and the plant cover growing in most of the watersheds is thick despite the previous dry spell. I will get a more accurate rain total when I speak with a couple neighbors that have their rain gauges in better locations. Streams and creeks are running good!
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Shorty
I fished and thinned down some of my pellet thieving golden shiners, I have removed 51 GSH in the 6-9" size range this week. Still lots more to go.


I need to do the same. Will be working on them this coming weekend. The GS and the HBG need to get thinned out in my BOW.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 06:08 PM

I watched it rain some more.

First time in a long time we actually got enough to cause runoff from the next door neighbor's property. Water has now reached the overflow so I'm getting a little flush in the pond.

Still looking at around 18-24" visibility with the new water. Feeding was a little off, but I expected it would be.

Holding my breath and praying this isn't a sign of things to come. Three storms in the Atlantic, another building in the gulf. Two floods in two years is quite enough. My heart goes out to all those folks in the Carolinas. They're about to catch hell.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 07:27 PM

My wife and daughter will be at an international horse show this week.

In North Carolina. frown

Fortunately, it's in the western part of the state least likely to get hammered by Florence.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 09:51 PM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: Shorty
I fished and thinned down some of my pellet thieving golden shiners, I have removed 51 GSH in the 6-9" size range this week. Still lots more to go.


I need to do the same. Will be working on them this coming weekend. The GS and the HBG need to get thinned out in my BOW.


I pulled 43 more GSH out yesterday, caught a few RES too. smile
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 10:26 PM

Are those too big for yourr SMB Shorty? If so, I may face the same problem some day.

What about adding a half dozen HSB? I happen to know someone near you raising some. grin
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/10/18 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
My wife and daughter will be at an international horse show this week.

In North Carolina. frown

Fortunately, it's in the western part of the state least likely to get hammered by Florence.


I sure hope they have a safe trip. This storm could easily be as bad as Harvey.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 06:44 AM

To be honest, I'm surprised the horse show has not been canceled. Hope they have a nice, safe trip.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 07:10 AM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Are those too big for yourr SMB Shorty? If so, I may face the same problem some day.

What about adding a half dozen HSB? I happen to know someone near you raising some. grin


Some of the GSH Iíve been catching must be too large for my SMB. They must be too large for my HSB too. Although my HSB are only rumored to be in my pond, as I actually havenít seen one since they were stocked in October of 2015.. Iíve got millions of GSH..
Posted by: tubguy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy

Although my HSB are only rumored to be in my pond, as I actually havenít seen one since they were stocked in October of 2015..


SetterGuy, I also have some elusive HSB. I stocked mine in October of 2016 and I am yet to catch or see one!
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 01:36 PM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Are those too big for yourr SMB Shorty? If so, I may face the same problem some day.

What about adding a half dozen HSB? I happen to know someone near you raising some. grin


Probably not but the minor SMB kill I had in July has left me short on bigger SMB. Also, my large GSH have kept SMB recruitment on the very low side, I need more predators.
Posted by: kswaterfowler

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 05:43 PM

Just put in 100 HBG and 50 CC. Also pulling cattails.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 08:17 PM

Took out seven more GSH out this evening, this is my target size to remove.

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 08:44 PM

If you have a cast net you might try feeding them and cast the net when they are in a feeding frenzy. I get some larger sizes when I do this in my forage pond.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 08:54 PM

Wow Shorty that is a textbook specimen for GSH! If you could catch or net them say a dozen at a time couldn't you sell them for bait for large fish anglers (like NP or lunker LMB?)

Any big RES biting this fall yet?
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 09:23 PM

I have caught a few nice RES in the last couple of weeks and a bunch of smaller ones, nothing over 10" yet.

In the last two weeks I have removed 101 GSH out my 1/4 acre pond, most of them in the 7-8" size range with a few bigger and a few smaller. It is starting to have an impact when I feed pellets, I am seeing more RES eat now and it's taking longer for the pellets to get cleaned up. Two weeks ago all of the pellets would be cleaned up in a few minutes, now it's taking twice as long. I still saw lots of big GSH eating pellets tonight so I am going to keep thinning them down.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/11/18 09:37 PM

I should mention that I had a huge GSH hatch this year, the early hatched GSH are 2"+ now, 4-6" GSH from last year are also very numerous. My SMB numbers are too low to keep up with them.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/12/18 08:59 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the fact that my surface temp has gone down to 82*, but enough is enough with this rain already. I know there's a plethora of ponds out there that can use more water. The mosquitos are so bad now they will absolutely try to carry you off. The parish is flying planes to spray every night. It's rained every day for the last 9 days. Probably in excess of 6 inches here at the house.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/12/18 10:21 PM

Shorty, how do you get the GSH to bite? I'm curious also how you gauge the population of hatch, 2" size or 4-6" size, do you net occasionally?

I am seeing a summer 'hatch' now with a few schools of 1/2" - 1" shiners. I can't tell if they are GSH or spotfins. I see the schools hang out around the crevice structures that I set out in the pond so I'm hoping they are spotfins staying close to the place where they hatched since they most likely had a recent warm weather spawn hatch?

I was hoping to have side by side healthy populations of both SFS and GSH. I didn't think the large GSH would be able to eat the eggs of the SFS since they are in the tiny crevices in my artificial structures. I think the GSH are helping control the FA and are probably helping control my very small YP fish population.

I don't have a way to gauge size or quantity of large GSH but I know there are some as the kids have caught a few in the 5-6" range while using corn to catch goldfish.

I think the YP are filling up on pellets, then shiner minnows of one type or the other but I was also hoping to get a huge number of shiners before putting in my predator fish.

Others talk of clouds of minnows all around the pond and I rarely see that. Of course with GSH they need vegetation to lay their eggs into and I still have none.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/13/18 06:33 AM

Micro jigs (Wapsi 1/80th oz #10) on a weighted bobber with a small pellet size piece of nightcrawler. Same rig I use for RES except I fish it shallow off the bank over deeper water. For RES I set the jig and fish it so it is on or near the bottom closer to the bank and use a bigger piece of nightcrawler.

I put a few early hatch GSH in my aquarium just to see if they would survive and to see what kind of fish they were, I was hoping they were RES fry. Surprisingly they did survive and are in the 2 to 2-1/2" size range now. I have also been watching the fry all summer next to the dock, they started hatching in late June, they have out performed my aquarium GSH in growth.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/13/18 12:20 PM

If Bill Cody is reading this then I'm curious if he or anyone knows what typically can be expected when GSH and spotfins are living side by side. Does one outcompete the other or because they lay eggs in different places at different times do they coexist.

I know GSH dart around erratically and swim very fast, I wonder if both shiners species can about equally avoid being eaten by RES and YP?

Shorty have you thought of adding other shiner types or FHM in with your RES?
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/13/18 01:25 PM

I still have FHM from my original stocking 7 years ago, as the fry in my aquarium got bigger I thought they might actually be FHM. I watched a large male FHM darting in and out of the rocks next to my dock earlier this summer claiming a spawning area.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/13/18 04:15 PM

I catch my rosies darting into the cracks of my broken brick piles in shallow water too. Don't know if they use the deeper stuff (3-5' deep) tho. My small GSF use the same areas too...until they outgrow the space, anyway.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/13/18 04:16 PM

I catch my rosies darting into the cracks of my broken brick piles in shallow water too. Don't know if they use the deeper stuff (3-5' deep) tho. My small GSF use the same areas too...until they outgrow the space, anyway.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/15/18 08:35 PM

So this morning I went out and did some water testing. After over a week of daily rainfall, I'm concerned what all this rain and runoff is doing to the chemistry of the pond.

While the Alk reading hasn't changed much (80ppm), my Ph has skyrocketed. My wide range tester indicates a ph over 9.0, where its been staying no higher than 8. I also noticed on one occassion, the runoff coming in from next door had a milky color to it. Today, I saw he has a burn pile in his back yard and all that ash is being flooded into my pond.

Is this ash causing my ph swing, and if so, will throwing more aglime into the pond help stabilize the problem?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 01:03 AM

I did something that I now regret: Allowed a guy & his 5 year old son to fish my BOW in my absence. They caught a bunch of nice LMB, including two good ones by the son, which pleased me.

However, when I saw the pic, I realized that the guy did not just fish from the dam as I'd asked. He did avoid the feeders, or so he says, but he admitted fishing away from the dam.

He seems to think that he did nothing wrong, and is probably sincere as otherwise it makes no sense for him to send me of pic which is clearly not on the dam. But I did ask him to stay on dam area and away from feeders, which he only partly did.

I'm thinking maybe best thing I could do is to ask him to fish only when I'm present in the future. May have to change lock combo just to make sure, he lives near me and could easily get in.

Any thoughts?
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 01:24 AM

I think it is your pond and you spent all the time and money making it what it is. He didn't.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 11:09 AM

Anthro, absoletely say no fishin without me. It's your pond and your $ and effort. I find it's hard ta trust myself. If he lives near and just happens ta show up without callin, might be a good time for settin up a practice target very near the pond.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 11:16 AM

Anthro, absoletely say no fishin without me. It's your pond and your $ and effort. I find it's hard ta trust myself. If he lives near and just happens ta show up without callin, might be a good time for settin up a practice target very near the pond.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 12:05 PM

After the aerator shut down this morning, I took my cup of coffee out for a little stroll around the pond and I noticed something really strange. All of the clumps of FA around the edges looked as tho someone had sprinkled tiny pieces of tan colored grass clippings on top of them. The coating looked dry, but dispersed when you touched it.

Anyone ever witness this phenomenon before?
Posted by: Clay N' Pray

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 12:28 PM

Tan colored grass clippings?

Windy last night? Maybe blew in?
Your guests use live bait that may have been packed in this stuff?

Just guesses.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 02:50 PM

Attached a pic.

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/12yEZqxJmzaeSVUZ9[/img]

It wouldn't matter if the wind blew 30mph. It doesn't affect the pond much. It's a virtual mirror all year.

No-one else fishes in the pond (that I know of). They'd be taking a chance with my three dogs running loose inside a fenced yard, two over 100#.

Diffuser is 30 feet away. Thought it might be detritus, but that doesn't explain how it gets piled up on top of the FA.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 03:20 PM

Only 3 dogs. Our 5 German shepherds would not leave much to be found:) No idea on the tan clippings
Posted by: Clay N' Pray

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 06:11 PM

It looks like some critter made those clippings. Any muskrats or otters around?
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/16/18 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Clay N' Pray
It looks like some critter made those clippings. Any muskrats or otters around?


Living in close proximity to a large swamp bottom, thats a possibility, but I've not seen any sign of anything. Tho I have found my small patch of lanceleaf arrowhead appears to have had most of its stems broken off right at the waterline. Not eaten, mind you, just broken off. I put that off as possible wind damage with the high water or maybe turtles.

The "clippings", IMO, are way too small for any kind of rodent to have created. I was thinking maybe some kind of insect cutting, or maybe it drifted in with the breeze from the trees around my property. I haven't been able to mow around the pond in a couple of weeks, so it's not my doing.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/17/18 07:16 AM

We fished this weekend. Well, the grandkids and daughter and Son in Law fished. Found out my SMB have pullled off a spawn! Not sure how old this one is. Then my granddaughter caught one of our original stockers from 4/15, so we have now kept three of the original 60.



Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/17/18 08:40 AM

Excellent! One happy camper there! When the weather cools down, I really need to see what's biting in my SMB pond.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/17/18 09:11 AM

That smile is worth a lot. Big smiles and nice fish, well done.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/17/18 09:30 AM

Sheís a twin. Her brother likes catching them too, but heís not so happy to hold them. Has to get used to slime.. Ha! They both like eating them, thatís for sure. YP especially.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/18/18 05:57 PM

It's amazing how fast things change in a small pond. Just three days ago, the water was nice and green with a visibility of about 16". Today it's much clearer, close to 30", and has turned tannic brown. Fish fed well and seem to be doing fine tho. As much as we needed the rain, sometimes I wish we could get a happy medium. Hopefully we're in a bit drier cycle now and the pond will return to its former green self.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/18/18 07:00 PM

Today I cleaned out my wood duck house to prepare it for Fall. I counted 12 half membranes so I had at least 6 hatched and left the nest. I had 4 others that were in various stages of hatching but did not survive.2 complete eggs and 2 with baby birds in broken shells. sooo...I had a clutch of at least 10. I am happy with that. This is the second year in a row to have ducks in my homemade box!!
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/18/18 10:33 PM

Flame, I'm not handy with wood so can you suggest a good online source to get a box that hopefully the wood ducks will like? I'm eager to try it this season.

We had a pair for a few days at our pond this spring, and then it looked like this past Sunday a female wood duck was paddling around for an hour in the morning and then took off.

What steps do you take in the fall or is it too late and the wood ducks already scouted my pond and decided there were no boxes up yet and we should move on?
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 07:48 AM

Canyon, I live on my property and pond is only 150 ft from my back porch. I visit the pond at least twice a day during feeding times and I keep a written log of everything including dates I clean the duck house and get ready for fall. Last year was October 1st and this year was Sept. 18th. You have time to get your duck house up for this year. Just get one on the way asap.There are plenty online sources and most run about $40-$50 each. I would purchase wood. I have heard negative results from the plastic ones on the market but I have no personell experience with them. Go to Ducks Unlimited website for proper size and location of your house. I believe that is where I got the dimensions to build mine. Make sure it is some type of solid wood and not any type of plywood. My first I built out of very good waterproof plywood decking and it came apart in one year. I believe cedar may be the best. Also I chose to use Aspen wood shaving for nesting material. DO NOT use saw dust. It is bad for the birds. Also you must install some type of predator guard on your pole below your box to keep snakes and racoons out of nest. I made a sheet metal "cone" below mine. I placed mine at the ponds edge and about 6 ft. high to the hole opening in the box.Hope this helps
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 08:13 AM

Canyon, I just researched a few houses on the web and it appears they are going up in price!! Most are showing around $75. I found one for $62 and free shipping on Amazon. Wow...I need to start mass producing those things!!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 09:19 AM

I would characterize building a wood duck box as a beginner level woodworking project. Do others agree?
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 09:19 AM

Yup, I noticed prices mostly north of $60!
I have a 12" diameter smooth fiberglass light pole by my pond that I'm thinking of using as the mount for the wood duck box. No predator can shimmy up it unless it is one of those anaconda/boa constrictors. I don't want to screw into the pole so I'll be using some large zip ties to hold it in place.

I certainly want a solid cedar one.

Do the ducks pick their nest in the fall or in the spring?
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 03:49 PM

They will check them out in the fall. Build nest in the spring. RAH it is a pretty simple project. 3 main points... make entrance hole 4 inch wide and 3 inch tall oval shape. Make a "door" of somekind for easy access to clean and refill with shavings. Install screen on inside of front for baby birds to get traction to climb out.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/19/18 04:34 PM

Screech owls are the only residents I got in my houses, but the wood ducks found tree holes so we had babies anyway.
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/20/18 11:26 AM

Sat for 2 hours last night, in the dark with a flashlight and dog, and watched "steamnadoes" come up off the water in the cold. It is mesmerizing and relaxing!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/20/18 12:19 PM

What we would do for some cool!
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/20/18 01:24 PM

Went out to feed the BG the other day and had this green film after heavy rains and corn field runoff - which tends to act as natural fertilizer. The pond was overflowing a week earlier and the bottom of the dock was in the water. It's currently down 30" from that level in 10 days and will drop another 2+ feet to the water table if we don't get more rain.

Went from 18" visibility after the rain to 10" or less once everything bloomed. Had this on the surface a couple of days ago and now the FA is growing like mad on the weeds that are under water. Will have to rake things out once the weekend hits.

Other than knowing what's coming in the way of a FA outbreak it actually looks nice in the right light.



With the hot weather the aeration system is running for 6 hours from 1 am to 7 am.
Posted by: aeb

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/20/18 09:42 PM

Disassembled a TH fish feeder that took an extended bath several years ago. Time for a new motor...and then I sat...and sat...and sat some more. Isn't that what you are supposed to do at the pond?
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/20/18 10:08 PM

Fed the fish a couple times. Watched the SMB hit pellets for a while but mainly mowed the pond dam and did a little weed eating around the pond getting ready for this Saturday. Pond Boss Forum SE Kansas informal get together. Bob Lusk will be in attendance so any PBF members within driving distance come spend a day getting to know other PBF members, talk some pond stuff, do some fishing and just have a good time around our ponds. Everything is prepared, the ponds are in good shape and the weather forecast looks good. Come join the fun.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 04:46 AM

The last few nights I've been stepping out with my spotlight and shining the pond, just to see if there are any "univited" guests. Last night, no sooner as I turned the lamp on, a GBH swoops in from the side of the house and lites on the edge of the pond with what looked like a small snake in his beak. He casually swallowed it and flew off. I had no idea herons hunted at night.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 05:44 AM

Yesterday afternoon I went out to feed. As soon as the first handful of pellets hit the water and the gills started their frenzy, my biggest of 3 LMB busted somebody's hind end, right in the middle of the spread. Needless to say, the frenzy was knocked back a notch or two.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 08:13 AM

I watched a 3 to 4" fish knocked out of the water yesterday when I was feeding the HSB/LMB the Aquamax lmb food. I think he might have been lucky but maybe not. smile
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 09:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
The last few nights I've been stepping out with my spotlight and shining the pond, just to see if there are any "univited" guests. Last night, no sooner as I turned the lamp on, a GBH swoops in from the side of the house and lites on the edge of the pond with what looked like a small snake in his beak. He casually swallowed it and flew off. I had no idea herons hunted at night.


I can look out our bedroom window and see the pond. I see the GBH sometimes on a moonlit night fishing.

SE Ks Pond Boss forum get together Sept 22, 2018
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 10:09 AM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
The last few nights I've been stepping out with my spotlight and shining the pond, just to see if there are any "univited" guests. Last night, no sooner as I turned the lamp on, a GBH swoops in from the side of the house and lites on the edge of the pond with what looked like a small snake in his beak. He casually swallowed it and flew off. I had no idea herons hunted at night.


I can look out our bedroom window and see the pond. I see the GBH sometimes on a moonlit night fishing.

I've seen GBH decoys but dont know how effective they are at deterring other birds.

I occasionally also have a great white heron and a small stork visit during the day, along with a couple egrets. I've watched them closely to see how successful they are. So far I've only seen them catch minnows or grass hoppers. up But when the BG/GSF get on beds right against the bank, they could be easy prey. Haven't noticed any spear marks tho.

SE Ks Pond Boss forum get together Sept 22, 2018
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 11:22 AM

We get a Great White egret on occasion also but it seems to come for a few days and then gone. Then might be back later. We have had white herons also. The GBH have rookeries around Cow Creek which runs through our place. One or two of them are regulars. Some years they will bring the young-uns. The first couple years we just marveled at them. But then one got to being way too friendly to the point I could hardly run it off. Plus about three were showing up. So I set up a "discouragement" program and now any time they see me they leave.

I really do not mind them getting a few fish if they would stick with the BG or GSF. Got plenty they can have. But then I find a nice LMB with a poke hole in it floating along the bank (of which I have not enough) and they are no longer endeared to me.

I get Green Herons every year but they can only get the small fish and I leave them pretty much alone. They are kind of funny and squawk in defiance of me when I approach as if to tell me it is their pond. Lots of killdeers which get tiny fish that I also leave alone. About accidentally run over a newly hatched clutch once by the edge of the pond. The tiny little hairballs jumped into the water, swam a few feet out from the bank, then promptly back out of the water and ran off. Did not know the little things could even swim. Always end up with at least one new family each year. Sometimes several.

Have seen some sort of sandpiper several times. Small bird with long curved beak that loves to pick off small shiners or tiny BG (I assume that is what they ear) along the edge of ponds.

I really like all the wildlife unless it gets to the point they are a nuisance. That happens really fast with cormorants and geese. Snow geese in the winter and Canadas in the spring and fall.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 12:14 PM

I'm surprised we don't have more visitors than we do. My place is just off gum slough and swamp bottom of pine ridge on the Sabine. Every morning and evening there are literally hundreds of different species of waders flying over the house. An occasional mottled duck, squealer or wood duck.

Being in a residential area, most don't dare take a chance I guess. Geese definitely won't.
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 02:51 PM

Depending on the exact time of the year we have a GBH that's a regular visitor but it'll leave pretty much as soon as we step outside. We're about 75'-100' away at that point.

We also get a Green Heron once in a great while. Had one stop by a few weeks back and when I went outside it simply walked over to the far side of the pond.

Finally, had a snowy egret a while back too. I got some pics but was pretty far away since I didn't think it'd stick around. It went to the other side of the pond while I put the inflatable boat in the water to do some maintenance but I was able to get within 10'-15' a couple of times before it got tired of the intrusion and left.

We too have killdeer depending on the time of year but I didn't realize they would go fishing. I figured they were just out there for the water.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/21/18 06:21 PM

I could be wrong on that. Maybe the killdeer do not fish but they sure do spend a lot of time along the bank if they don't. They may just be eating bugs.

Edit: I looked it up. They are shore birds but this information does not say they eat fish. Crayfish and snails though.
killdeer
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/22/18 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Tom M


Finally, had a snowy egret a while back too. I got some pics but was pretty far away since I didn't think it'd stick around. It went to the other side of the pond while I put the inflatable boat in the water to do some maintenance but I was able to get within 10'-15' a couple of times before it got tired of the intrusion and left.


It's important to drive these birds off before you run an errand. We should always leave with no egrets!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/22/18 01:08 AM

On a serious note, finally got water line set up to mobile home on our pond. Septic tank done, too. Now for electric hookup!

Cool weather felt great, fish were very active around feeders. Still no sign of HSB, but did see two Tilapia take sinking pellets. Seemed more skittish about surface feeding than LMB and CNBG, don't know if this is species characteristic.

Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/22/18 12:27 PM

I normally hydrate my feed before going out to feed, but yesterday I decided to throw it dry. I've noticed my BG are very enthusiastic the first few seconds then tend to feed more subsurface after that, as the pellets sink faster.

Since the feed was dry yesterday, they didn't feed as hard as they were waiting for sinkers. What I did find out is that I have a few more BH than I thought. Where I normally only see 4 or 5 between 10-12 inches, yesterday they were forced to come up to get the pellets. I saw around a dozen ranging from 6 to 12 inches. They are virtual vacuum cleaners. Scarfing up 3 or 4 pellets at a time.
Posted by: Brad346

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/23/18 12:44 AM

Today water hit my new pond for the first time. I doubt it will get above the dead pool by spring, but we will see how the native soils hold up.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/26/18 08:24 PM

All I did today was watch from my front door as a thunderstorm reminiscent of hurricane Harvey completely inundated the pond. The banks are overflowing into the yard and as it drains off I'm watching thousands of GAMs, FHM and small panfish swim out with it.

Sure am glad I don't have a ton of money tied up in stocked fish.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/26/18 11:27 PM

Wish you could send some of that excess rain up here, Mike. My pond level has risen some, but still about 16-18 inches lower than full pool.

Interestingly, I'm seeing the same thing Bob Lusk mentioned in the electroshocking video tonight: recently spawned LMB in the 3 to 6 inch range. Don't usually find that happening in the fall, wonder what the trigger was?

Of course, we all remember the abrupt shift from winter to summer earlier this year, with a very brief in between spring. Perhaps female bass didn't have the opportunity to spawn they normally get during the spring, as temps went from too cold to too hot abruptly, so more eggs available now.

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 12:59 AM

That is weird because I have lots of 3.5-4" SMB that I have no other explanation other than a late spawn. They are not starving and look to be in good health.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 04:41 AM

If I could send it to you I surely would. We need to dry out some as it's rained almost every day and forecast for 60% chance till probably Monday. Luckily it drains off pretty fast. Have to keep an eye on Toledo Bend. I'm sure you've heard their reputation for flooding everyone out downstream.

I've heard that LMB can have late season spawns even into fall. But it's usually after unseasonably cool weather that drops water temps early on then warms back up.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 06:28 AM

It was a crazy winter, spring this past year. I had lmb on the nest in May, where it is usually late Feb or early March. A may spawn might give up some 4" lmb in early fall. I think. Another thing is the rain at my place this year has been scattered out but I have seen more this year than the past two yrs where I was in a drought at the farm. Pond is pretty much full right now.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 05:40 PM

After that deluge of rain yesterday I was interested in what changes it made to the pond. Visibly has been reduced to about 16". The surface temp at 3:30pm (still cloudy and threatening rain) is 83*. Ph reading is 8.0.

I walked the ditches along the property where the pond drains and saw a lot of tiny minnows scurrying around, but no evidence of anything substantial in the ditch. There still appears to be a lot of GAMS and FHM in the pond, tho. Feeding today was also on track. While I was out also cleaned off the grate covering the overflow pipe. It was completely clogged with FA.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 05:56 PM

Trying to make lemonade from lemons. Have had a beaver trying to clog my exit pipe by throwing pickerel weed plants into the water control box. have been using the plants in my newest wetlands and pond to get some cover established. The beaver has saved me a lot of digging.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/27/18 11:50 PM

I just noticed I also have 4" LMB in my old pond. Noticed a half dozen of them yesterday in the shallows.

Gobs of 4" SMB in my RES/SMB pond, along with larger YOY.

The picture was on Monday night, not today. But I thought it was kind of cool. Heavy rain about 5 minutes after that picture.
Posted by: Clay N' Pray

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 05:26 AM

The 4"-6" CC I stocked this May are taking feed already. That is a record.
Usually it's the following spring before I see them again.
That really bumps up my harvest schedule.
I'll be having CC fishing parties this time next year.
I need to clean my feeders with bleach water. They are getting stinky.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 06:39 AM

Snrub - Any idea how the LMB got in?
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 09:23 AM

I'm losing the battle with invasive giant (mutant ninja) snails. Actually they don't seem to cause any problem but just seem to coat the bottom in the shallows. I'm guessing they came in when the neighbor 'kindly' bucket stocked my pond with the remnants of his aquarium which included adult snails. Every year I have taken out a few 5 gallon bucket loads of adult snails by hand.

Now they tend to stay in about a foot of water, not many out deeper than that, and as we get high water after a rain they go into the shallows more. I had 2 overflows of my pond with heavy rains this month and many of the adults stayed stranded up in the grass when the water receded.

I figured as my YP (and RES the few I have) got larger they would eat the tiny snails (they bear live young, so the babies got to be small enough for a large YP to eat?) But this year apparently the YP didn't get the memo because my shallows are must loaded with 1/2" to 3/4" diameter tiny snails. The adults by comparison are about 2" or more.

The tiny snails have very soft thin shells so I'm sure the RES could eat them. Once in the shallows you would think the coons would wade in and feast on them, but no. Do owls or raptors eat these things?

If I new a way to get them to crawl out of their shells or soften their shells I would throw the snails (minus the shell) back in and they would be quick treats for my larger YP

So I raked and raked yesterday and the shore looks like it hailed snails. When they die off it stinks and we get flies...

Oh well, there are at least 10,000 less snails in the pond now.

Is there such a thing as a selective 'snail.i.cide'?
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 09:35 AM

FYI - Snails cannot crawl out of their shells.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 09:35 AM

Heck sell them on EBay! Or smash them and throw the back in deeper water to be eaten by the fish
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: RAH
Snrub - Any idea how the LMB got in?


The LMB fingerlings I saw were in my old refurbished pond, not in the RES/SMB pond. The ponds are close to each other, about a hundred feet apart. But they are separated by a tall enough terrace the waters should never allow fish to transfer from one BOW to another. I have 5 different ponds so I differentiate them with names. Main, sediment, forage, old and RES/SMB.

To me the LMB fingerlings look just about like the SMB fingerlings from the shore. At 4" I sure could not tell the difference between them looking at them when they are swimming in the water. I tried just a little to catch one of the small LMB to look at it but no luck. I can easily catch the 4" SMB fingerlings on a small jig but I have lots of them so it is easier. I have seen much smaller numbers of the 4" LMB in the old pond. Saw some earlier in the year during summer and again just recently. Not sure what to think of the spawns. Either they were spread out or the fish just did not grow for a couple months.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 10:53 AM

I misread your post - Thanks
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 11:14 AM

Scared away a GB Heron and two cormorants. Getting increasingly discouraged about these two small ponds.
Posted by: Redonthehead

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 11:27 AM

This afternoon I am headed up to my land (1.5 hr drive) and will set four cloverleafs to continue work on thinning out the bullhead it got infected with, and also set some minnow traps in the minnow pond to toss them into the big pond for grins. Also toss in a few handfulls of fish chow. Then I am headed to a deer stand for the evening. Going to work on pond, deer stands, duck blinds, decoys, etc all weekend.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 11:38 AM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
Scared away a GB Heron and two cormorants. Getting increasingly discouraged about these two small ponds.


I just got back from chasing off a cormorant scout, a flock of geese and a white colored young GBH. It looked like bird city out there this morning with the addition of a flock of killdeers and an eagle circling overhead, which I left alone (saw the eagle get a fish a few days ago).

It must be migratory season again. smirk Guess if I was into birds it would be wonderful.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/28/18 12:31 PM

I don't know if I am going to continue to feed after this season. With the extreme depredation, cost of feed, and difficulty of obtaining good feed, I think I will just keep the pond areas cleaned up for their aesthetics, and an area to get a good walk and to sit a bit and see nature. I still haven't found anyone to stop the first pond from leaking down to about 30" from full. No one seems to want a small job like that with the huge amount of construction of all kinds going on in NW Arkansas at this time.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/29/18 10:20 AM

This morning I went out and checked surface temps while the aerator was still running. With night-time temps starting to cool (72*F this morning) I want to keep an eye on temps so I can make an uneducated guess at when to switch to a daytime schedule. Surface temps inside the diffuser current was still 80*F at 7am, so I'm thinking I can wait a bit longer.

Afterwards I decided to give my refurbished 8' flyrod a go (equipped with a small closed faced spinning reel). Rigged with the body of a baby beetlespin (no blade attached) in black/chartreuse under a small float. Second cast resulted in what I think was a 6" Warmouth. I say "think" because it didn't have the typical GSF markings, but was much lighter in color than the usual dark brown mottled colors. Unfortunately, my phone was inside so no pic.

Now the interesting part.

Second fish is what I believe to be a HBG.
Next was a 6" GSF, followed shortly after by a 6" BG.

Links to pics below for comparison and evaluation. Your input on the first pic is greatly appreciated. If this is indeed HBG, it's a naturally occurring specimen. The bobber used as reference is 1" on the spring button top to bottom.

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/W6HAAupXuU4GfcZr5[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nc7XivyGrWMvmDYM9[/img]
[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/9TEa4uq24tNmdqiQ6[/img]


Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/30/18 07:18 AM

A morning dedicated to RES fishing. I have only caught one prior to this trip on the pond and it was a 5"er. Four years ago next month I added a thousand 3" res to the pond and followed up with another 850 the following February. I have seen only a few when we shocked the pond and I have caught a couple when throwing a cast net, so for the most part I seem to have low numbers of res. Or maybe they just like to hang out in deeper water where a shock boat and cast nets don't work all that well, really not sure. Anyway, I rigged up my 3 wt fly rod with an olive colored feathered fly with a beaded head. A minnow looking or a worm looking fly about an inch and a half in size. Fishing in about 4' of water I caught an res that was 10" and really fat, and looked like she was full of eggs. And the weighing scales were not with me at the time so I did not get a weight on her. When I first saw her on the line I saw a lot of yellow color and first thought it was a large Tilapia. But as I inspected her in the boat I discovered she had the red outline on her ear tabs It was not a bright or strong red color but more of a faded red coloring around the ear tab. I then new she was an res. She did have a lot of yellow coloring on her belly and below her gills. She is the second largest RES I have ever caught. Well as it turned out she was the only one I caught, maybe because it was a late morning fishing trip when I started up around 9:30. I also wound up catching a few 10" cnbg measured but not weighed. They were some really nice cnbg. Some of the nicest ones I have ever caught in the pond. And I also hooked into a really nice lmb that came off when I bent over to pick her up.. I am guessing 17" and about 3.5 lbs. I was a great morning of fly fishing, but it would be nice to have caught some more of the elusive RES like the one I caught. I wished I would have had the camera with me.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/30/18 09:11 AM

If I ever catch a 10" RES (or any other species for that matter) from my puddle you'll be able to hear me holla!!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/30/18 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
This morning I went out and checked surface temps while the aerator was still running. With night-time temps starting to cool (72*F this morning) I want to keep an eye on temps so I can make an uneducated guess at when to switch to a daytime schedule. Surface temps inside the diffuser current was still 80*F at 7am, so I'm thinking I can wait a bit longer.

Afterwards I decided to give my refurbished 8' flyrod a go (equipped with a small closed faced spinning reel). Rigged with the body of a baby beetlespin (no blade attached) in black/chartreuse under a small float. Second cast resulted in what I think was a 6" Warmouth. I say "think" because it didn't have the typical GSF markings, but was much lighter in color than the usual dark brown mottled colors. Unfortunately, my phone was inside so no pic.

Now the interesting part.

Second fish is what I believe to be a HBG.
Next was a 6" GSF, followed shortly after by a 6" BG.

Links to pics below for comparison and evaluation. Your input on the first pic is greatly appreciated. If this is indeed HBG, it's a naturally occurring specimen. The bobber used as reference is 1" on the spring button top to bottom.

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/W6HAAupXuU4GfcZr5[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nc7XivyGrWMvmDYM9[/img]
[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/9TEa4uq24tNmdqiQ6[/img]




First fish is interesting. I will not attempt at an ID but will say the mouth looks too big to be a pure BG.

Next two pictures I agree with your ID.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 09/30/18 12:48 PM

I posted that 1st pic in a separate thread. The possibility of a BGxWM has been suggested. Quite possible with my small population of WM and their need to reproduce....with something!!
Posted by: liquidsquid

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/01/18 09:46 AM

Getting frustrated at how there is just enough rain to keep things wet, but not enough for runoff to bring up the pond. Getting the float raft out of a half-flushed toilet bowl with a 4-wheeler is a ton of work. Anything stronger would pull the float raft apart.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/18 08:15 PM

Since getting my new rain gage this past Saturday, we've received a total of 1/2" of rain. Not that we need any more for a while.

Today was an absolutely beautiful day after the first serious cold front of the season. Overnight temps are going to drop into the mid 60s (f) tonight.

Surface temps today were 90* at 3p, after a full day of cloudless sunshine (so nice to see the sun again). With air temps dropping overnight and a trend of even cooler nights out thru next week, I decided it's time to switch my aeration schedule to a daytime shift. Starting tomorrow it'll be running from 8am-2pm.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/10/18 09:03 PM

Turned the aerator off today as we have our first freeze warning tonight. Surface temps are sitting at 55 degrees which was warmer than today's high. A week ago surface temps were 72.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/18 05:23 PM

After last night's cool snap and today's aeration run, surface temps dropped from 90(f) to 84(f) at the same time of day. Made another adjustment to the run time. Tomorrow will start a 10a-4p cycle. Daily highs are predicted to be in the low 80s for the next few days, so this change should help maintain a more subtle drop in water temps for now.

Fish fed pretty good today for a change.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/18 08:27 PM

Snrub came to visit and we fished in my two ponds. Found I have more RES than I thought. He caught three that appeared to be this year's spawn. Also, two pound plus CC really put up a fight on limber 12 foot crappie rods.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/11/18 09:17 PM

Had a good time John. Thanks for the hospitality!
Posted by: Funky

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 07:20 AM

Yesterday I moved the aeration from the deeper ends of the pond to the shallows nearest the deck, this will keep the ice from forming around the deck this winter. Water temperature is now at 55 degrees and our air temps are getting into the low 40's maybe in the 30's tonight, highs only in the low 50's, so we are on our way to late fall type weather soon to be in winter. It has been a good summer and I look forward to a little ice fishing once we get enough ice.

A big thank you to all of you on this forum, for all the great info you have shared this season ! I really love this group, the site and the magazine, and yes the videos are great too!!
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
Snrub came to visit and we fished in my two ponds. Found I have more RES than I thought. He caught three that appeared to be this year's spawn. Also, two pound plus CC really put up a fight on limber 12 foot crappie rods.


What!? No pictures? No pictures, or it just didnít happen. Ha! Just kidding. Iím still ticked off I didnít get down to the get together at Snrubís. Sounds like you had a good day.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
Snrub came to visit and we fished in my two ponds. Found I have more RES than I thought. He caught three that appeared to be this year's spawn. Also, two pound plus CC really put up a fight on limber 12 foot crappie rods.


What!? No pictures? No pictures, or it just didnít happen. Ha! Just kidding. Iím still ticked off I didnít get down to the get together at Snrubís. Sounds like you had a good day.


Sorry, no pictures. The action was fast and fish slime isn't very compatible with taking pictures. LOL
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 02:14 PM

I thought about taking a picture of the RES right after I threw the third one back. smirk Then I didn't catch any more. frown

Weather was perfect. Wives talked knitting, spinning and quilting. Great day.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 02:35 PM

Sounds like a great day around a pond!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/12/18 05:17 PM

An interesting observation....today was the first time I've fed while the aeration was running. Activity was nonexistent until I turned it off. After a few minutes, activity increased, but nowhere near what it should have been. High for today was 78ish and surface temp was 82(f) after 5 hours of daytime running. Visibility has reduced to around 16" due to an algae bloom. I didn't see a single BH either.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/15/18 05:29 PM

I started draining my forage pond into the old pond by siphon. I think I will start the forage pond anew next spring. It has BG and LMB in it from past flooding.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/15/18 07:03 PM

I fed a small amount of pellets this evening and checked the surface temp after the 4" of snow we had yesterday. Surprisingly the surface temp was 52 degrees and the fish fed well. I did catch two nice RES on soft plastic baits while the fish fed, one 9-1/2" female and one 9-3/4" male.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/15/18 09:35 PM

temps dropping fast, near freezing tonight. Sunday was warm in the afternoon. It was strange, I tossed pellets into the sunny areas and not even a nibble. The sun is low in the west sky and you would think the fish would stay in the warm sunny spots. But as soon as the pellets drifted in the shaded areas it was game on. However, my water has cleared for some reason so maybe they are just aware that they are targets in the sunny clear water.

Raked another thousand or so YOY snails again.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 05:41 PM

I finished draining the forage pond down to a small puddle, netted out and transferred the 5 Koi I put in back in May, all the BG and LMB I wanted to keep, and then scattered 10 pounds of hydrated lime into the puddle. Those Koi were only about 4-5" when stocked on May 10. I was amazed at the growth. 11-13" and some over a pound.

I originally stocked FHM in the forage pond, but LMB and BG got in during a flood. I didn't find a single FHM. I decided this past spring to grow out those 5 Koi to big enough size the LMB couldn't eat them, then restart the forage pond. FHM to be stocked next spring.

Here's a picture after I finished.

Edit: It was hydrated lime, not quicklime.




Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 05:44 PM

Same here with the temp drop, it dropped around 20-25 degrees along with about a 4" rain so I shut the diffusers off around lunch today. Water temp was at or around 72 degrees @ 4' day before yesterday and so I saw no reason to mix up the cold rain water even though it rained all night and morning with the diffusers running at 4am till lunch before I shut things down. So really not sure if I reduced my chances of any quick temp drop in the pond.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 06:06 PM

Air temp lows around 30 and highs in the 50s so I shut down the aeration and rigged for winter running with only the shallow water diffuser. I will only run the aeration this winter if we have thick opaque ice or heavy snow cover. I have it setup so I can just flip a switch in the house to engage the compressor.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 06:55 PM

We've had about the same change in temps down here in SW LA. Down 20 degrees from yesterday with a high of 63 today. Surface temps yesterday were 80*. I called the wife from work and had her unplug the pump so it wouldn't run its cycle today. Even with the cold rain and temps, without the aeration, surface temps today only dropped to 74.

My visibility has been slowly getting less and less over the past week or so, which I believe has been due to a late season bloom. Without the aeration today, I'm seeing a green scum starting to surface and I noticed that "smell" that usually accompanies algae on my hands when I retrieved the thermometer. Hoping its not BGA, but my luck aint that good.

One more thing...I discovered painted turtles will eat lanceleaf arrowhead. I've got one plant which is now in about 2 foot of water with full pool. I kept seeing the stalks moving around oddly so I just stood by it, watching to see if I could see what was causing it. Sure enough, up comes a painted turtle. About half the plant is now gone. Broken stalks floating where they'd been chewed off.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
I finished draining the forage pond down to a small puddle, netted out and transferred the 5 Koi I put in back in May, all the BG and LMB I wanted to keep, and then scattered 10 pounds of quicklime into the puddle. Those Koi were only about 4-5" when stocked on May 10. I was amazed at the growth. 11-13" and some over a pound.

I originally stocked FHM in the forage pond, but LMB and BG got in during a flood. I didn't find a single FHM. I decided this past spring to grow out those 5 Koi to big enough size the LMB couldn't eat them, then restart the forage pond. FHM to be stocked next spring.

Here's a picture after I finished.


Guess you willl get to see if the water clears up without the fish in there. When I was at John's place his two other ponds were reasonably clear. But this very small forage pond he drained was the nastiest water in a pond I think I ever saw. It was worse than chocolate milk.

Amazing the Koi did that well in that water. John had ask me if I thought the Koi were causing the turbidity but I had no experience with Koi so could not offer any help.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/16/18 08:03 PM

I have been told that Koi love mud ponds.

I hope 10 pounds of hydrated lime in that puddle was enough to ensure a kill. There were a lot of BG under 2-3" still in there that I didn't net out. I just threw the powder all over the top, and then stirred it with a landscape rake. There was only 200-300 gallons left, and it was super clear after a couple of hours.

Anyway, I put the five Koi in my renovated pond. I don't think they will reproduce because of the LMB.
Posted by: jludwig

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/17/18 08:15 AM

I believe a Koi is similar to a carp but just colored. So that would make sense.
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/17/18 07:20 PM

With the recent switch to near freezing nights the water temp has dropped to 58 degrees and the BG have basically stopped feeding so I've turned off the aeration until Spring. I will leave the fountain running in order to keep a hole in the ice when it forms.

Who knows, maybe we'll see another ice volcano if the predictions for a cold Winter hold up.

Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/17/18 09:00 PM

Checked pond temp, it's warmed up to 56. I also fished a little bit, caught one little RES and one big GSH.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/30/18 10:55 PM

Fished seriously for about 2 1/2 hours with a friend. Took out 13 LMB in 8 to 13 inch range, released 5 others that were too big to keep. Just like the electroshock survey showed, LMB below 14 inches tend to be somewhat skinny, while starting around 15 inches they are very heavy for their length.

Also caught a 13 inch HSB and several CNBG. One of them was probably the second heaviest I've ever caught, around 9.5 inches and extremely thick. Progress!

Forage pond only a quarter full, but that will change after heavy rains tomorrow. Need to stock it with CNBG and get feeding. Maybe investigate PK shrimp too.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/30/18 11:59 PM

I cut and split cook stove wood for my MIL so all I got done at the pond was feed fish.

But an odd thing happened. My CC have been pretty much AWOL the last few weeks since the water cooled down. Might see one once in a while but nothing like this summer. Ok, just the season I reasoned.

But today I think I must have seen every CC in the pond because CC were everywhere feeding all around the pond. It warmed up the last few days and a cold front was scheduled to come through tonight with rain and I guess the fish watched the forecast. Cause not only the CC were out to feed, the BG were tearing it up like they were a month ago.

Everything was so hungry I went back later with another half feeding.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/31/18 04:46 AM

I've not ran my aerator the last two days and with the warm spell, my fish fed better yesterday than they have in a long time as well. Supposed to rain here this afternoon.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 10/31/18 10:59 AM

I noticed my aerator seems to run a little more loudly lately and the boil seems to be not as good as before. I have done the necessary cleaning and I store it inside in the winter, I don't run much in spring and fall and mostly nights (12 hrs or less) once weather is hot during the day.

I contacted Vertex where I bought it to see what could be up. They said check PSI, they recommend 4PSI on my single cylinder 1/4hp compressor. I had 4PSI.

They then looked up when I bought it (May 2013) and then the helpful technician told me this:

"Now with the system being that old and the fact that you let it sit during the winter and off at night. The Piston cup being Teflon coated and the sleeve being aluminum; after running and getting hot then cooling and sitting. The cup tends to stick to the sleeve and it takes a tiny piece each time it starts up. Over time it wears down and sticks to the sleeve. And the piston head starts to rub against the sleeve and that would create a louder sound and less air (blowby). The new replacement maintenance kits and replacement compressor are now coming with Teflon coated cups and sleeves to stop that sticking. That does sound like that is going to be the issue at hand."

He is quoting an upgrade kit for me and will give me instructions on how to do this myself. I also noted the rubber boot on my big capacitor is shredding/tearing and coming off. I should get one of those too.

I should have 'low hours' compared to those who run their compressors 24/7. Should I just plan to do the rebuild every 5 years?

Since it still gives 4PSI and some boil I may or may not tear into it this winter unless others tell me that I should. I may just see how much louder it gets?

Anyone do this and note a big change in boil performance or reduction in compressor noise?
Posted by: Heath Lawrence

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/06/18 02:53 PM

This didn't happen today. But, nevertheless thought it was too good not to share.

About two weeks ago I was on my dock looking at my strip pit feeding the fish when I seen a snake about a foot and a half long swimming across the pit. As I was watching it almost get to shore on the other side, a LMB jumps out of the water and eats the snake. Definitely the coolest thing I've ever seen while at my pond.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/06/18 05:49 PM

That is cool!

I've been waiting for that to happen in my pond but never seen it.

We do have every year a new batch of diamond back water snake babies though and I have noticed I rarely ever see any of the small ones in the main pond where the LMB are. I had three of them watching them grow up in my forage pond.

One big adult likes to lay half way out the overflow pipe from my sediment pond to the main pond. It lays in there when the water is overflowing and catches 2" fish as they either come down the pipe or swim up it from the main pond trying to get into the sediment pond. I just could not resist one day and reached down and touched its tail. I never saw a snake shoot out the other end of a pipe so fast in my life. Probably not a recommended procedure.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/06/18 07:28 PM

My wife graciously chose to go with me today, and I really appreciated her help with the net. Biggest HSB I've ever caught by far, around 5 pounds! What a fighter, so glad I didn't hook them during summer when water temps were 20 degrees higher.

LMB still coming to feeders, but CNBG have vanished. Water is flowing over the standpipe for the first time since May.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 07:16 AM

Frank, I have a few HSB like u describe in the pond. A couple of them have a fly from fly fishing and a beetle spin with them from their fight where they won.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 10:48 AM

good job Frank!!! Tracy, you ...not so much! Just jokin guys, Great fish!!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 01:52 PM

Thanks, guys. In defense of Tracy, I was using heavier tackle than normal. Otherwise, no chance whatsoever.
Posted by: Heath Lawrence

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 03:02 PM

That's cool that the snake is smart enough to know to sit there and get fed. I'm glad the snake didn't reach around and bite you! The snake that I seen get eaten was either a ribbon snake or garter snake. They're real skinny so it was probably an easy meal.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 06:55 PM

I finished refilling my sediment/forage pond today and restocked it with some Gambusia. I had drained and limed it a few weeks ago.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/07/18 11:29 PM

Caught about a dozen GSF along with a few I had in the holding pen and filleted them. Not very big fillets but we ate some and they were tasty tonight. BG are pretty slow to bite although I did catch one really nice one last night. But the GSF were biting pretty good. Gave me a chance to clean a few of them out before winter to reduce some biomass in the pond.

Also threw the cast net a number of times in my forage pond and moved twenty or so 3-5" RES out of it and into the main pond. I keep trying to get the RES numbers up in my main pond to up the catch rate.
Posted by: Mfitzs70

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/08/18 06:31 AM

When I catch small fish BG etc..I'll fillet them and get a pot of rolling boil water and drop them in one at a time till their white. I'll take them out and chill them in the fridge. Then mix up some cocktail sauce ketchup horseradish...and eat it like shrimp...we call it Poor Mans Shrimp
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/08/18 08:22 AM

I like doing the same with some Louisiana crab boil in the water.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/08/18 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
I like doing the same with some Louisiana crab boil in the water.


Yeah buddy!!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 10:18 AM

Yesterday afternoon I sprayed some flex seal around the view plate on one of the TH Feeders in an attempt to stop a leak during heavy rain events. Also worked on clearing out a food jam on a second TH feeder. And then hand feed the HSB and LMB Aquamax lmb. The BG, Hsb an Lmb all feed well and aggressive even after a 10 degree water temp drop this week due to rain along with the cold front. This put water temps at 60 degrees at surface to 4'.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 12:53 PM

60 degree waters temps sound great, the low overnight here was 8 degrees and I suspect my pond froze over last night. I will go check once it warms up a bit this afternoon but it has only warmed up to 22 now.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 06:30 PM

Fish were on full feed here Friday, then it turned cold. Gave them about 1/3 feed yesterday with moderate activity figuring they would go without today since it got down in lower 20's last night.

Drove around pond today but didn't bother to take any feed with me. Not a single one came to greet me.

May feed a little lightly next week when it warms back up if they are hungry again.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 06:53 PM

found this snake-skin today...measures just over 6 feet...i assume a rat snake



also this week my trapper friend got beaver #2 in last 3-4 months

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 08:30 PM

Stocked 1,000 PK shrimp today, they made it to the pond just fine. Also observed surface feeding activity & splashes, either LMB or HSB, not related to shrimp.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/10/18 09:25 PM

Stocked 300+/- 3-4" Golden shiners from Anderson's.. Had to bust a hole in the ice to get'em in but they seem to acclimate fine!
Would have been nice to have done it a bit earlier but there in!
Posted by: Tom M

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 07:51 AM

Cleaned the fountain pump to remove, hopefully, the last of the FA for this season and measured the water temp @ 46 degrees. It's dropping fast now that the overnight temps are getting into the teens with a thin layer of ice covering the surface this morning except where the fountain is.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 08:14 AM

Yesterday I was able to finish construction of my 8x12 well house and as soon as it was finished, I disconnected the aeration pump from the air line, plugged the end to prevent trash getting into the line and stored the pump in the well house. Next spring, the plan is to extend the air line to the well house and keep the pump housed in there.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 12:23 PM

I'm on the road heading home with SMB in the back seat, this is a supplemental stocking to replace fish I lost this summer in a fish kill.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 05:10 PM

Home now and adjusting water temps. All 81 SMB made the trip home fine, fish are in the 5-6" size range.

Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 05:16 PM

Good news on the SMB making it Shorty. That is a nice size to stock.

Gave my main pond fish about half normal amount of feed today. Drove around the pond in the UTV and saw some wakes coming toward me so figured they were hungry. Ate all I threw to them.

At my get together Highflyer brought me a laser temperature gun so I checked the surface temperature and it was 47. Was surprised to see the fish feeding with the temperature that low but I suspect it is warmer deeper because the fish came from the deep.

When the surface temperature was 50 the fish were still very actively feeding.

I usually cut back on the rate sometime in early November and quit feeding altogether around the first of December. Around then the deeper water has gotten to about 50 degrees and the fish no longer act very interested. I only feed now as long as the fish act interested and eat well. That means I skip some days.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 06:09 PM

Snrub, I was down in your neighborhood to pick up my fish in south central KS, almost a 5 hour drive back to my place. My pond is half covered with ice right now with surface temps sitting at 40 degrees. I did see GSH hitting the surface while releasing the SMB.

Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 07:24 PM

May I ask where you purchased your smb?? I also buy fish near the Wichita area.
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 08:28 PM

Hartley's just west of Wichita, I had to wait a week or two for them to run a seine. I was originally going to run down on Thursday but had to reschedule, North Central KS had a winter weather advisory in effect that afternoon.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 08:50 PM

Thanks Shorty, that's where I got my original stock of SMB, RES..
I wanted to see if Harbin just east of Wichita maybe had some again.
Thanks!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/11/18 09:39 PM

Shorty you were down to my latitude but still a long ways away. Mapquest says 3.5 hours from my place to Kingman, Ks. I'm only 4 miles from Missouri.

I see just a little skim of ice on your pond.

I stocked my SMB early December last year from Hartleys.
Posted by: gully washer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/13/18 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Zep
found this snake-skin today...measures just over 6 feet...i assume a rat snake



Reminds me of a time years ago, when my girlfriend and I were staying overnight at a friend's hunting cabin. During the night, she was rudely awakened by screams (similar to that of a little girl) after I had semi-consciously reached under the bed with my foot to retrieve one of my flip flops and inadvertently pulled out a long snakeskin which had been shed.

BTW, that's a good lookin' pup, Zep!
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/15/18 04:16 PM

Had a friend unfold the mattress on the top bunks at camp. About the third one a big rat snake flipped out around his neck. Snake was ok but the guy almost had the big one. Fifteen mins later he still had a very high heart rate. shocked
Posted by: JKS3613

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/15/18 04:21 PM

That would be it for me. I'd still be there on the floor. lol


Originally Posted By: ewest
Had a friend unfold the mattress on the top bunks at camp. About the third one a big rat snake flipped out around his neck. Snake was ok but the guy almost had the big one. Fifteen mins later he still had a very high heart rate. shocked
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/15/18 04:32 PM

A family get together at FIL lake home when we saw a snake go down the hallway toward the three bedrooms. The women put us to work looking for that snake. never did find it. Another time same place we entered the place and I went to turn on the tv. I saw what I thought was a fake toy snake on top of the tv until I saw it flick it tongue. I'm gone smile
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/17/18 08:06 PM

Removed ten small LMB today, also caught three too big to keep. Largest around 3.5 to 4 lbs.

Saw repeated big topwater explosions near the dock. Tossed in my lure & nearly had the rod ripped out of my hands by a berserk HSB. Couldn't believe my eyes when I got him in & he was just 15 inches!!!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/17/18 09:43 PM

I had been wanting to do another trap survey so I loaded some dry dog food in a bottle and did three separate soaks of my cloverleaf trap in different spots. Each run was only about 15 minutes at approximately 5 foot deep. The first sample resulted in nine 1.5" BG, the second only one about the same size and the third had one 2" GSF, one BG around 3" and seven more 1.5" BG. I guess all my bigger fish are hanging out in deeper water or suspended out in the middle. Feeding has been way off since this last cold snap, even tho the surface temp is still 66*.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/17/18 11:20 PM

Fed a little today because it was warm and sunny and saw some fish coming toward me. Fish went after the feed well considering how cold the water is. Even saw one 12" CC come to the surface for pellets.

Water is exceptionally clear and I was amazed to see so many 1.5-2" BG. I had no idea there would be so many late spawn that size.

Pulled the paddle boat out of the water before it gets frozen in.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/18/18 07:53 AM

I had the same thought about all the 1.5" BG I've seen and trapped. I did notice a couple of males tending nests toward the end of Sept but had no idea there would be that many survive that spawn.

And the minnows!! Oh my lord!!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/18/18 01:52 PM

The YOY predators should get fed well through the winter with all the late fall spawn of the BG.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/18/18 05:22 PM

I honestly believe that why my bigger fish have quit coming to the pellets. There's so much forage for everyone they've pretty much quit the feed all together. Between the yoy and minnows there's plenty protein to go around right now.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/18/18 10:38 PM

Caught three fish. In about an hours time in freezing weather. I don't have much experience cold water fishing so thought I would try a little. Bite was extremely slow but at least I didn't get skunked.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/19/18 11:40 PM

Fishing started very slowly with air temps in upper 40s & overcast conditions. After an hour of nothing, the sun came out, air temps warmed into the lower 50s, and the fish turned on! grin

Culled 20 LMB, threw back five too big to keep. Largest near 4 lbs, great fun to catch! Eight year old son of a friend was in the boat and caught several LMB, including one of the bigguns.

Headed in around 4:15pm when we saw schooling fish near the dock exploding on something, likely small BG. A few casts later, we identified the fish as HSB. Adult angler caught two nice ones, then the kid hung a big one on his little rod & reel and the fight was on!

Amazingly, the line didn't break, the reel didn't jam, and the rod (barely) withstood immense pressure. Got a few pics of him next to the 5 lb fish, he & his parents are delighted!

I'll try to download a couple of the pics here. This is the best reason for all the work & investment: To thrill a child and give them a lasting appreciation of creation.

PS Bald eagle sighting, too. Three Canada geese and three unwanted water turkeys.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/20/18 05:36 AM

Great day!
Posted by: DrLuke

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/20/18 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Fishing started very slowly with air temps in upper 40s & overcast conditions. After an hour of nothing, the sun came out, air temps warmed into the lower 50s, and the fish turned on! grin

Culled 20 LMB, threw back five too big to keep. Largest near 4 lbs, great fun to catch! Eight year old son of a friend was in the boat and caught several LMB, including one of the bigguns.

Headed in around 4:15pm when we saw schooling fish near the dock exploding on something, likely small BG. A few casts later, we identified the fish as HSB. Adult angler caught two nice ones, then the kid hung a big one on his little rod & reel and the fight was on!

Amazingly, the line didn't break, the reel didn't jam, and the rod (barely) withstood immense pressure. Got a few pics of him next to the 5 lb fish, he & his parents are delighted!

I'll try to download a couple of the pics here. This is the best reason for all the work & investment: To thrill a child and give them a lasting appreciation of creation.

PS Bald eagle sighting, too. Three Canada geese and three unwanted water turkeys.


What a great day, anthropic! Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/21/18 07:56 AM

You did have a great day Ant!! I will do what mowing and weedeating I can do on the wet ground today . Thanksgiving I am getting a real treat. My son will be home with my 4 year old grandson this year. I have the opportunity to watch him catch his first fish!!!! I am soooo excited. First time in 13 years that I will have a true big family Thanksgiving!! There will be 4 grandkids all together this year.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/21/18 05:35 PM

The grandson and I spent a little time on the pond earlier today, drowning cold worms under a bobber. Took a little while to find the right depth but when we got to six foot, we caught three fish in a matter of just a few minutes. One 4.5" bluegill, one 12" BH and one 6" GSF. By then he'd lost interest but had a good time kicking up grasshoppers. Still a good time, tho!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/22/18 07:52 AM

I watched an Osprey circle the pond yesterday afternoon. It was a first time sighting for me at the pond. Guessing he is/was feeding on the slow moving Tp. Hoping he was not feeding on the lmb/hsb or the nice sized cnbg. Ponds are amazing when it comes to all the birds and animals that show up every year.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/22/18 08:49 AM

We have a pair of them around here and they are welcome to anything they can catch. Beautiful birds
Posted by: Funky

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/22/18 11:00 AM

Measured the ice on the pond this morning at 1 inch, our temps have been fairly cold early this year, down to 12 last night and not going above 28 today. So it is a great day to enjoy Thanks Giving and the family and the three football games!! Happy Thanks Giving to all!
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/23/18 11:08 AM

This was actually yesterday and the day before. Been doing some end of the season transferring of RES fingerlings from my forage pond to the main pond. Some pictures below.

Was surprised that CC are still coming up for feed. Water at 44 degrees on the surface. It takes a bit for the fish to show up and I can tell they are a bit sluggish, but even at the cold temps on a warm sunny day they act hungry. The BG I expect but was surprised to see the CC. I do not feed a lot in these cold water temperatures. Only on warm sunny days and I only feed about a third of what I would feed in the spring or fall. Will cut the feed off completely in the next week. Have only been feeding lightly two or three times a week when the fish act hungry.

Today I opened up the December issue of Pond Boss Magazine to find my wife's CC dip recipe in the back on page 66. I had totally forgotten Bob was going to do that.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/23/18 12:38 PM

The few CC I have left are very slow to come up the last several times I have fed, and I am well south of "Snrub". I have been feeding less and only on the warmer afternoons. We cleaned and ate six of the larger BG a couple of weeks ago, and they were still full of undigested pellets from the day before, so I slowed way down on the quantity and frequency of feeding. The water has become very clear in the older pond, and I can sometimes see a CC swimming very very slowly on the bottom, not even stirring up silt.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/24/18 12:03 PM

I have not seen any of the larger CC come up for feed in this cold water. Only the ones about a foot long. Sunny and nice out today. Supposed to get up to 66 degrees so the BG for sure will be out and about. May even do a little fishing.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/24/18 03:53 PM

Its warmed up pretty nicely today and when I got back from the airport, I noticed quite a bit of activity in the pond, so I threw a few handfuls of pellets. They weren't ravenous by any means, but did have several gills and GSF rise to the occassion.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/24/18 11:06 PM

Was really nice outside here today. Long sleeve shirt nice mid day.

Fish fed modestly and I fished a while. In the amount of time it took me to catch five fish I could have caught 30 in spring or fall. But at least I did not get skunked.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 07:02 AM

It was a nice day, guessing around 70. I started with getting my Polaris 900 out of the woods. The steering stopped working leaving me stranded the other day. I'm not sure if I will attempt to repair it or have it repaired. After all that, I went to repair the timer on one of my TH feeders. I was not able to fix it so I will be ordering a new timer. While I was at the feeder I had feed the fish and they were very active, hadn't been feed for about a week. I watched the pond and the fish were very active with the aquamax mvp that was thrown from the other feeders. I watched the hsb feed on the TFS, lots and lots of TFS in the pond and the hsb were all over them all around the pond. There may have been a few lmb feeding on them as well. Well, that activity made me grab a fishing rod and on the first cast I caught an hsb that was fat and sassy, guessing it was in the 3.5lb range. Caught it on a white sparkly tube jig while dragging it on the bottom. So, I decided to change up and grabbed another rod with a drop shot and a plastic worm. Caught a nice Florida lmb, guessing it was in or around 4lbs. Looked really healthy but I was surprised that the lmb was not so fat. I know its weight is over on the RW charts but still, I expected to see a fat belly but instead I saw a fish that was healthy but not fat. Now I am thinking about what I might do to increase the weight on these 4 lb Florida bass. I not quite ready to thin the herd so to speak because the last 3 I have caught looked like this one. I caught two last August/September. I did check the RW on those and they were in the 100% + range. So where to go from here?
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 10:54 AM

Love this time of year....really the next 6 months when the Texas heat is in time-out. Had some friends out last night for Hebrew National's and beer brats on the grill. Good times...






Also decided this weekend to sell our Deere skid steer that sits 95% of the time and use the money for a mini-pontoon boat and/or a electric side by side.
Posted by: wbuffetjr

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 11:29 AM

Looks awesome Zep! If you get an electric SxS I'd love to hear your review!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
Looks awesome Zep! If you get an electric SxS I'd love to hear your review!


Thanks wbuffetjr. I actually bought a tricked out "hunting golf cart" but quickly realized I had made a mistake. It was loud/creaky and rode extremely rough. I returned it for a 90% refund.

After some investigation I found out hunting golf carts are still golf carts made for smooth terrain golf courses.

So I am considering the Textron Prowler EV-IS which is a real ATV type frame. I like electric because I want super quiet to better sneak up on wildlife to watch and I'm hardly ever on mine long enough to drain the battery. I'll let ya know....



Textron Prowler EV - Electric UTV



Posted by: wbuffetjr

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 01:03 PM

Zep I am with you 100%! I would love to have an electric SxS for many reasons. The benefit of silence for hunting is top of the list. Now with the ability to charge one off the solar it makes them even more enticing. What makes you choose the Textron over the Ranger?
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 04:38 PM

I haven't really decided what brand. I think the Textron is cheaper than the Polaris Ranger..and a dealer I like close-by carries the Textron...but I am open-minded on brand. One thing I really like about the Textron is the 2 man unit has a back area for cargo or you can flip up the cargo area and there are two additional seats there. Mine would mainly just have two riders, but it would be nice to have the option of adding two additional passengers when needed without buying the big "crew" models.

A friend told me to look at the electric Intimidator line as well.(see below)



Electric Textron: 2 Man with cargo that has optional flip up seat for extra passenger:







Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/25/18 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
It was a nice day, guessing around 70. I started with getting my Polaris 900 out of the woods. The steering stopped working leaving me stranded the other day. I'm not sure if I will attempt to repair it or have it repaired. After all that, I went to repair the timer on one of my TH feeders. I was not able to fix it so I will be ordering a new timer. While I was at the feeder I had feed the fish and they were very active, hadn't been feed for about a week. I watched the pond and the fish were very active with the aquamax mvp that was thrown from the other feeders. I watched the hsb feed on the TFS, lots and lots of TFS in the pond and the hsb were all over them all around the pond. There may have been a few lmb feeding on them as well. Well, that activity made me grab a fishing rod and on the first cast I caught an hsb that was fat and sassy, guessing it was in the 3.5lb range. Caught it on a white sparkly tube jig while dragging it on the bottom. So, I decided to change up and grabbed another rod with a drop shot and a plastic worm. Caught a nice Florida lmb, guessing it was in or around 4lbs. Looked really healthy but I was surprised that the lmb was not so fat. I know its weight is over on the RW charts but still, I expected to see a fat belly but instead I saw a fish that was healthy but not fat. Now I am thinking about what I might do to increase the weight on these 4 lb Florida bass. I not quite ready to thin the herd so to speak because the last 3 I have caught looked like this one. I caught two last August/September. I did check the RW on those and they were in the 100% + range. So where to go from here?


Tracy, what has been your experience with TFS? How many did you stock? They are recommended for my BOW, as my LMB are only about 90% RW until they hit 14 or 15 inches.

Do TFS spawn on wood? Weeds? I have some fairly deep water near the dam, around 20 feet, so maybe they'd survive a normal winter.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 07:37 AM

Frank, I understand the TFS spawn on vegetation but my pond has very little vegetation. I did add some Christmas trees and some Cedars along the shoreline making 9 brush piles in 1 to 3' of water. A place where I could get some survival of the cnbg fry. But I am guessing the TFS used them for spawning as well. I can most always find them around the brush piles during the fall. Spawning I think. I added TFS the first time in late November 4 yrs ago. I added around 300 4 to 5" at that time. I then added 10,000 2 to 3" size the following spring. For what ever reason the TFS have really liked my pond and I have always had a lot of them in my pond. A side note, I seem to always have low numbers of 2 to 3" cnbg every time I e shocked the pond in the spring. But the TFS seem to make up for it, in that size, in the forage numbers. As per Todd Overton's comments to me after the first or second e survey. I was sure I lost my TFS last winter because of 42 degree water temps I had in last years long cold winter. Guess they found warmer water in my 12' depths. I found survival with 3 to 5" caught during a sein I did last June. Surprise, Suprise Surprise smile
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 12:09 PM

Well, Tracy, whatever you are doing to feed your LMB has been a huge success, and that includes the TFS. I do have some plants now, though not nearly as much brush as you. Sounds like it is worth a try.
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 03:39 PM

See this link for good info on common forage species including TFS.

https://srac.tamu.edu/serveFactSheet/12
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 06:34 PM

Over the Thanksgiving week, while I was off, I took some time to build another fish attractor using left over 3/4" pex tubing, about 15 # of readymix concrete and a cat litter bucket cut down to about 12". After letting it set up most of the week, yesterday I dropped it into about a 7 foot depth adjacent to the main feeding and spawning area. The top of the structure should be around 5 feet under. Now it's a waiting game to see if they'll use it.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 06:46 PM

Originally Posted By: ewest
See this link for good info on common forage species including TFS.

https://srac.tamu.edu/serveFactSheet/12


Thanks!

By the way, do larger TFS survive cold better than small?
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/26/18 10:12 PM

We are 6 inches below normal on rainfall the past three months. Ponds are still quite low.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/27/18 10:04 AM

John, I went through that type of drought last year at my place. This year lots of water. Every year is different at my place. Hope u get some much needed rain.

Frank, I don't know about what size TFS survives our winters. My seining in early June shows different sizes of TFS in the net. inch and a half to 5 or 6" sizes. They seem to spawn often at the pond. Yesterday afternoon I was at one of the feeders when I saw a school of TFS about a foot or so under the surface and they looked to be in the 3 to 4" range. The say they do not eat fish food but I always see TFS around the feeders at feeding times. I don't see them eat it but why else would they be there when the feeders go off? I figured they might be eating the feeder dust that gets thrown out when the feeder goes off. Hay! I am no expert that for sure.


Frank, what are your Tp doing? you still seeing them? I have not seen any since a month ago when I saw some 3" ones sunning in some shallows. Concerned my Tp may have been food for the lmb at stocking time since they were in the 6" size at the time I stocked them. I think some made it but I may need to stock the harder to find larger size when stocking next year. My water temps were 58 yesterday at 1 to 4'
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/27/18 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Flame
You did have a great day Ant!! I will do what mowing and weedeating I can do on the wet ground today . Thanksgiving I am getting a real treat. My son will be home with my 4 year old grandson this year. I have the opportunity to watch him catch his first fish!!!! I am soooo excited. First time in 13 years that I will have a true big family Thanksgiving!! There will be 4 grandkids all together this year.


James, it really is nice to share the pond & fish with grandkids. How was your Thanksgiving?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/27/18 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
John, I went through that type of drought last year at my place. This year lots of water. Every year is different at my place. Hope u get some much needed rain.

Frank, I don't know about what size TFS survives our winters. My seining in early June shows different sizes of TFS in the net. inch and a half to 5 or 6" sizes. They seem to spawn often at the pond. Yesterday afternoon I was at one of the feeders when I saw a school of TFS about a foot or so under the surface and they looked to be in the 3 to 4" range. The say they do not eat fish food but I always see TFS around the feeders at feeding times. I don't see them eat it but why else would they be there when the feeders go off? I figured they might be eating the feeder dust that gets thrown out when the feeder goes off. Hay! I am no expert that for sure.


Frank, what are your Tp doing? you still seeing them? I have not seen any since a month ago when I saw some 3" ones sunning in some shallows. Concerned my Tp may have been food for the lmb at stocking time since they were in the 6" size at the time I stocked them. I think some made it but I may need to stock the harder to find larger size when stocking next year. My water temps were 58 yesterday at 1 to 4'


Tracy, haven't seen TP since early October electroshocking, but that doesn't mean much. I rarely observe them around feeders and almost never catch any. Hope they haven't all died of cold yet, or at least got eaten by LMB.

I don't have the numbers of big LMB you do, so 6" size TP would probably survive longer in my BOW. Still, bigger would be better for reproduction.

Seems that bigger fish in general can take cold better than smaller fish of same species, which is why I asked about TFS survival from last year's cold winter. You and I both have BOW with good depth, which helps.

My water is less fertile than yours, which is one reason I haven't stocked TFS. Will have to up my game in this regard!
Posted by: ewest

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/27/18 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
Yesterday afternoon I was at one of the feeders when I saw a school of TFS about a foot or so under the surface and they looked to be in the 3 to 4" range. The say they do not eat fish food but I always see TFS around the feeders at feeding times. I don't see them eat it but why else would they be there when the feeders go off? Frank, what are your Tp doing? you still seeing them? I have not seen any since a month ago when I saw some 3" ones sunning in some shallows. Concerned my Tp may have been food for the lmb at stocking time since they were in the 6" size at the time I stocked them. I think some made it but I may need to stock the harder to find larger size when stocking next year. My water temps were 58 yesterday at 1 to 4'



There are reports that TFS will eat some fish food just not high in the diet chain (don't eat a lot of feed).
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/28/18 09:50 AM

Thanks Eric. I suspected they were eating some of the Aquamax but could not swear by it. I will see them around the feeders when it's near the time the feeders go off.

I received a letter from Overton's fisheries last month where it said if you are interested in stocking TFS next spring then you need to place your order now.

Frank, my pond for the most part has had 18 to 21" of green water visibility and a couple of times it was even greener with less visibility up until this year after adding the Alum. Since then the water has had 22" for most of the time to where it is now at 35". The TFS seemed to have been doing well with the less fertile water. It has remained green through out all of it and remains green today but not as green as I have seen in the past. I hope this information helps in your decision making.
Posted by: RStringer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/28/18 12:56 PM

I didn't do this today but lately I have been draining it for my 2nd redo. https://i.imgur.com/gOe5tN4.jpg
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/29/18 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
Thanks Eric. I suspected they were eating some of the Aquamax but could not swear by it. I will see them around the feeders when it's near the time the feeders go off.

I received a letter from Overton's fisheries last month where it said if you are interested in stocking TFS next spring then you need to place your order now.

Frank, my pond for the most part has had 18 to 21" of green water visibility and a couple of times it was even greener with less visibility up until this year after adding the Alum. Since then the water has had 22" for most of the time to where it is now at 35". The TFS seemed to have been doing well with the less fertile water. It has remained green through out all of it and remains green today but not as green as I have seen in the past. I hope this information helps in your decision making.


I called Overton's yesterday to place TFS order but haven't heard back. Bob Lusk says that I'd be wiser to buy in the spring than now, given my geographic location. Might get too cold for them to survive winter in my BOW.

Sure wish I had your fertility. Don't think viz has ever been less than 30 inches, and usually closer to 40 despite liming & fertilizer. On the plus side, it doesn't get muddy no matter how much rain falls.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/29/18 05:36 PM

What did I do at my pond today?? well, a walk around has revealed a GSH die-off of some sort over the last 2 weeks is taking place..
Stocked about 300 3-4" from Anderson's.. 6-8-10 a day floating.. yesterday was 27, today 11. Guessing SaprolegniaÖ. fungus no doubt. Looks to me like handling issues on their end but they say no way, must be water issues on my end. Anyone ever see something similar???
EDIT: GSH stocked 40 days ago +/- a few days..
2nd EDIT: Just looked back, GSH were stocked only 20 days ago!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/29/18 10:02 PM

Great 3 hours fishing! Friend & I culled 15 and put back 3 too big to keep, including one that had to be pushing 5 pounds. Also one HSB that fought much harder than its 14 inches. Now have removed 79 LMB the last two months.

Saw some TP in the shallow back bay. Lethargic, I doubt they'll make it much longer.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/30/18 06:39 AM

I set out otter traps after finding otter scat and a trail at the dam. It seems to be a never ending battle with the otters and beavers. I am still trying to figure out why Texas Parks and Wildlife would restock otters into E. Texas.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/30/18 09:31 AM

Dadgum Tracy you still having problems with otters? They are a pain for sure.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 11/30/18 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
I set out otter traps after finding otter scat and a trail at the dam. It seems to be a never ending battle with the otters and beavers. I am still trying to figure out why Texas Parks and Wildlife would restock otters into E. Texas.


Guess they figured that fishing was too good.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/01/18 08:13 AM

I seem to be able to control the Otters and Beavers after I realize there back "again". frown Once again I have to thank Highflyer for teaching me what to look for and how to set up the traps. My pond is a few hundred yds from a Bayou where a lot of different animals roam. And I think Frank is right. As I herd Bob Lusk say, when there is a lot of forage (fish) in a pond then mother nature steps in to correct it. Dam Otters!! All I need now is a thick scruffy beard, thick fur coat with ice and snow all over me and I would feel like a real trapper. Problem is it's all just a pain in the arse!
Posted by: jpsdad

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/01/18 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
All I need now is a thick scruffy beard, thick fur coat with ice and snow all over me and I would feel like a real trapper.


Just so long as the fur coat is an otter fur coat.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/01/18 03:33 PM

Beaver fur is nice, too. And we shouldn't forget goose down jackets for those really cold days!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/02/18 11:27 PM

Culled 11 and returned 6 too big to keep, longer than 14 inches, today in 3 hours of fishing. LMB and a few very large CNBG still taking pellets. No HSB caught.

Canada geese back in numbers, up from 3 a few days ago to 14. A couple of cormorants, too.

Maybe it's just a random event, but now that we've culled 90 smaller LMB, seems they are harder to catch. Starting out it was easy to catch 5 or 6 small bass for every nice one, seems more like 3 or even just 2 to 1 today. Maybe me & my fishing buddies are making a dent!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/03/18 09:25 AM

Sounds good Frank. But maybe it is time to build a duck blind and hunt a few Geese.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/03/18 12:22 PM

Tracy, no need for a blind to shoot these geese. They aren't all that afraid of humans. Cormorants are much more wary, thankfully there are only a few.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/06/18 07:53 AM

Goose Gumbo is a great way to get rid of the geese. smile People who say they don't like to eat goose and or duck have not eaten it in a Cajun Gumbo. I could tell you a story about all that. Short story, 5 gals of the Gumbo was gone by daybreak.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/06/18 10:58 AM

Mmmmm so true Tracy
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/12/18 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
Goose Gumbo is a great way to get rid of the geese. smile People who say they don't like to eat goose and or duck have not eaten it in a Cajun Gumbo. I could tell you a story about all that. Short story, 5 gals of the Gumbo was gone by daybreak.


I'll have to give that a try when hunting is legal!

As for today, my buddy & I had slow fishing. Cloudy, windy, cold water, not much of a bite. In two hours we caught nine LMB, eight culled (under 14") and one 3 lber we released. I had two other good bass on but hook pulled out.

ALso noticed several TP floating near the surface, clearly in trouble. Surprised that they made it this long considering it's been pretty cold.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 07:31 AM

Goose season just opened for the second split. You will need a duck stamp, hunting license and a good shotgun with some steel or tungsten shot. #2 or #3 will work. You can buy a small game non resident hunting lic for your place in E. Texas. Several hundred bucks cheaper than the standard non resident hunting lic. Ck your daily limit allowed and you can keep two days limit in the freezer. Two hunters, that most likely would remove 8 geese from the pond in a weekend hunt.

Suggest you not advertise it to my wifey, she feels sorry for anything I bring home from a hunt and will only eat wild game if I don't tell her what I cooked. smile


My cnbg are still pretty active, saw them feeding along the windy shoreline yesterday, busting the surface, so I hand feed some and like I said they were pretty active. The feeders went off while I was there and saw a lot of feeding activity but the feed trained lmb and hsb were not so active. I only saw a couple of them feed.

Have not seen the Osprey in a few days so I am guessing the Tp are gone for the most part. I did see an aggressive Kingfisher though.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 08:41 AM

Frank, what are you and your buddies using to catch your lmb this time of year? My visibility is still pretty bad at less than 12 inches. Only place I seem to be able to catch any lmb is near the feeder area but now I have a GBH that stands in the water next to the feeder every am and pm. I'm sure that is even spooking the lmb also!!
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 03:43 PM

Louis (best friend, golf and drinking buddy, and expert fisherman) and I did some harvesting, barely scratching the pond's load of fish. Largest bluegill, 9 inches, 12 ounces. Largest channel cat, 10 pounds and 25 inches. Louis caught all the bluegills (I got skunked though lots of bites) and the big catfish. I caught a 4.8 pound channel at 24 inches and an oddly small hybrid blue. All catfish on wiener. Pond is twenty months old and fed.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 06:29 PM

We have received exactly one inch of rain since very early this morning. The ponds are up about two inches.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Flame
Frank, what are you and your buddies using to catch your lmb this time of year? My visibility is still pretty bad at less than 12 inches. Only place I seem to be able to catch any lmb is near the feeder area but now I have a GBH that stands in the water next to the feeder every am and pm. I'm sure that is even spooking the lmb also!!


James, our only success was on small jigworms. Very light jighead, 1/32 oz, attached to 4 inch red shad powerworm. Moved slowly, hits were subtle. Once I concluded that I was hung, but it turned out to be a big LMB that hardly moved. Lost her, unfortunately.

My buddy tried a plastic lizard, a hot bait six weeks ago, without a single bite. My BOW doesn't get muddy no matter how much rain, but it does get a little murky. Next time I go fishing during winter it will be on a sunny day so temps rise a bit in the afternoon.
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: DannyMac
Louis (best friend, golf and drinking buddy, and expert fisherman) and I did some harvesting, barely scratching the pond's load of fish. Largest bluegill, 9 inches, 12 ounces. Largest channel cat, 10 pounds and 25 inches. Louis caught all the bluegills (I got skunked though lots of bites) and the big catfish. I caught a 4.8 pound channel at 24 inches and an oddly small hybrid blue. All catfish on wiener. Pond is twenty months old and fed.


Nice mess of fish! Well done!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/13/18 08:17 PM

Tracy, I'm gonna talk with a couple of my buddies about a goose hunt! Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/14/18 12:03 PM

Went to the pond yesterday and now at full pool! The bloom has lessened some and clarity is about18Ē for now. Caught a few BCP under the dock. That hasnít happened since spring I guess from the lack of clarity. A very large LMB tried to eat a 8Ē BCP that I had hooked.... that was fun
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/14/18 02:11 PM

Pat, I got another inch and 1/2 rain to go with my previous 5 1/2 inch and it is still raining over here right now. I didn't see them but I heard a couple of wood ducks already today. Pond is still flushing but clarity still under 12 inch. Cnbg fed like crazy in 65 degrees air temp yesterday!! Tried a little to catch a lmb but no luck in only 30 minutes fishing. I'm still feeding in the am and pm both and still running aeriation 24 hours.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/14/18 03:44 PM

Cool James we didnít get a drop this go around..... Stickem said he got 1-1/4Ē.....
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/14/18 04:36 PM

Having a mild spell the last couple of weeks. A thin layer of ice forms at night but doesn't hold up during daytime temps. Just have a floating section in the middle. The pond has been dropping in late fall after rains stopped. I decided to use the hose to raise it again to try to 'overfill' it a bit and hope when cold comes we will have more ice skating surface for the kids to enjoy.

The filling up process gave a new ice-free zone of warm well water all around the edges with the ice floe floating and shrinking every day in the middle.

Right on cue the pesky GBH showed up to do some scouting of the pond edges for anything edible. I'm not sure what he/she found. My kids told me that about a week before the GBH showed up and was walking around on top of a paper thin layer of ice. Why he would do that and what he was thinking I have no idea. I also know that if he fell through there is no way he could have taken off to fly away as they have a hard time getting airborne. I was kind of hoping he would fall through so that my crayfish, RES and turtles could have turned that trouble maker into a rack of white bones on the bottom!

I tossed some optimal feed and sure enough the shiners were happy to zoom over and fill their bellies. I hope some of the YP and RES got some but not sure. The YP mommas got to be filling out their eggs by now!

I threw some pellets up on the ice hoping that as it melts this will be a new 'slow release' method of feeding smile



Now we just need steady cold weather to get some hard water!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/15/18 10:51 AM

We had just over 1.8 inches rain in two days. Ponds have reached highest pool in 5 months, but still a long way to go until full.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/17/18 10:24 AM

I sat up on the hill next to the pond with my 22 mag waiting on the Otter that is feeding at the pond. Set another conibar trap and plan on setting another. I don't like River Otters and or Beavers at my place! I watched the feeders go off and the fish are still pretty active when feeding. Not a 100% but still more than enough to feed. Don't see any bass or hsb feeding at the feeder. I did see a few feed around the pond. I stopped my hand feeding the Aquamax lmb food due to little interest in it.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/18/18 01:07 AM

That's interesting, Tracy. I haven't seen my beaver in months, nor fallen grass or gnawed trees. Wonder if it headed for greener pastures?

I'm feeding the Optimal Bass pellets and get a pretty good response on sunny warm (highs above 55) days, mostly from LMB and HSB. A few of the large CNBG hang around, too, but no little guys. Maybe too many predators for anything less than 9 inches to safely hang around the feeder.

One thing I've noticed is that the fish seem much more active on sunny afternoons than cloudy ones, even when air temps are the same. Guess sunlight warms up the water well beyond what the air does. In summer, cloudy days are best.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/18/18 07:58 AM

My hand feeding the lmb and hsb is something I enjoy. I have not checked water temps recently but in the past two weeks the lmb and hsb feeding dropped off big time to where only one or two are eating the aquamax lmb feed. I am hoping it's the water temps, most likely in the low 50's, and not the River Otters reducing the fish numbers. If past experiences with the otters compares to now then I suspect there are several hanging around. I did reduce the numbers of Otters by one yesterday. Trapping continues. As far as the beavers, I found some small trees cut down back behind the big pond in a smaller pool of water. They are building a dam to stop the pool from draining after rain events. I may let that dam building continue, it might make a good forage pond someday.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/18/18 11:19 AM

In my experience with otters last winter, they only went after the sluggish CC. I didn't see any significant kills of LMB or BG. They go after the easy stuff first.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/19/18 12:49 PM

John, I don't have any cats but suspect they have been dining on Tp lately and I'm guessing a few Bg based on the size fish scales I find in the Otter scat. I don't like Otters at the pond! Or Beavers.

I dug a ditch around the pond to divert rain water from the backside of the pond and in doing so it made a natural shallow pool where the beavers are now building a dam. It looks promising other than when I built the big pond, it's in the same area where I ran out of clay. So I'm not so sure if I dig it two foot deeper than it already is will it hold water year round. I think it is a sandy loam with a small amount of clay in it. it would be a good area for a forage pond with lots of water from the run off. The beaver dam got me to thinking lol
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/20/18 12:22 AM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
John, I don't have any cats but suspect they have been dining on Tp lately and I'm guessing a few Bg based on the size fish scales I find in the Otter scat. I don't like Otters at the pond! Or Beavers.

I dug a ditch around the pond to divert rain water from the backside of the pond and in doing so it made a natural shallow pool where the beavers are now building a dam. It looks promising other than when I built the big pond, it's in the same area where I ran out of clay. So I'm not so sure if I dig it two foot deeper than it already is will it hold water year round. I think it is a sandy loam with a small amount of clay in it. it would be a good area for a forage pond with lots of water from the run off. The beaver dam got me to thinking lol


How much do the beavers charge by the cubic yard?
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/20/18 07:37 AM

"It Depends" We have all herd that before smile
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/21/18 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
"It Depends" We have all herd that before smile


grin

Saw a large, mature bald eagle in a tree next to my dock. Flew off when I got close, a beautiful sight with the full moon reflecting off the water in the background.

Fish couldn't get enough feed. Seems like sunny days are the key, more than air temps.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/21/18 10:46 PM

I am really jealous of you Texas folks getting to enjoy some pond activity this time of year! I put my boat on the pond today and busted 1" ice so I could finish some brush pile work.
It did make 55 deg today so not bad for NW KS.. 15 is more common this time of year so I'll quit complaining now..
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/18 01:02 AM

Well, Snipe, I admire you for doing useful habitat enhancement despite the ice. That's gonna pay off when it gets warmer.

I've ice fished twice. The first time was on Lake Erie & I almost froze the death, coldest I've ever been in my life. Second time was on a farm pond during a winter warm spell and the ice gave way so I took an unexpected frigid bath. Not for me!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/18 07:21 AM

Bald Eagles are majestic birds for sure. And I can relate Frank. Year before last I drove up to the pond and found one setting on top of one of my Wood duck boxes. A site to see and would have made a great picture for Pond Boss Magazine. But after him hanging around for 90 days or so I was ready for him to leave. My thinking was, if he two pounds of fish per day that's 180 lbs of fish gone out of my pond. Thinking about what Bob Lusk says, Nature will step in when it needs to. Such as fish kills, or bringing in Bald Eagles, River otters, or like the Osprey that showed up this year. OH! caught another Otter yesterday, that's two this week.

And snipe, it's supposed to reach 68 to 70 degrees today. I am close to Franks place. And it's kinda unusual for this time of year. I like fishing up north of here but I wait till things are thawed before I head north. Even with me being a fish-a-holic I have no desire to fish through the ice smile Call me a snowbird if you like smile
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/18 08:07 AM

If we could get those fish stealers to eat only the fish we wanted to cull..........if only! grin

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/22/18 02:35 PM

Wish we could train eagles to eat otters...
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/23/18 09:55 PM

Slow fishing, caught 3 HSB and 1 CNBG in two hours. No LMB whatsoever, a first. On the plus side, my granddaughter caught the new pond record CNBG, 10 1/2 inches.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/24/18 05:53 AM

Congrats to your grand daughter and new pond record!! That's a nice cnbg. Just for something different I have tried a red rattle trap type bait for 3 days during the feeding area when the feeder goes off and not the first strike from any lmb. Even tried my little beetlespin type bait with a small plastic behind it with no luck. That and a wacky worm has been my go to baits on my pond but no luck at all lately. Oh well, maybe they are just getting fat on cnbg and I will catch them next spring.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/24/18 06:46 AM

Fish are still feeding on my place
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/24/18 08:14 AM

My cnbg are also feeding Dave, but not so much with my feed trained lmb or hsb. I trapped a beaver today that was so big all he could get into the conibar 330 trap was his head and neck. Hugh beaver! So far this week of trapping got me two R. Otters and this beaver. The trapping continues.
Posted by: bassmaster61

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/24/18 09:19 AM

It got down to 14 degrees overnight last week just northeast of the St. Louis area and our ponds are looking good. We raised the depth early in the Spring of 2018 by about 2 feet in one pond and about 3 feet in another but they did not fill as last year (2017) was very dry and all ponds spent the second half of the year well below the "old" full pool level.

I decided to leave the battery in the TX Hunter LM-135 that we have set up this winter after taking it inside last winter. I spoke to Cody at TX Hunter and he recommended that I set the feeder to run for 10 seconds in the middle of each day just to keep the motors running a little and prevent debris or critters from getting up into the blower hole. Makes sense to me. Giving it a try.

Drove around all three ponds that are currently under management and looked at a fourth we are considering paying more attention too next year. Need to add quite a bit more brushy cover in the 1.5 acre BOW we have been managing for the last 2+ years as well as add a few 5X3 Georgia Cubes. Some issues will need to be addressed, of course, at all three BOWs so my "to do" list is sitting at about the max of what I can reasonably expect to accomplish during 2019.

Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year. May all your pond dreams come true in the coming year. BM61.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/25/18 09:15 PM

I got the beejeeses scared out of me this evening while feeding. Haven't seen hide nor hair of any of my 3 LMB in over a month, until one of them decided to make and appearance...right at my feet in 6" of water. Threw water all over my legs when it busted some unfortunate panfish's butt.

That's so dang cool!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 05:54 PM

Mike that will do it every time!

Went down to the pond a few minutes ago in a 25 mph wind. In the past I have caught fish with the wind in your face from the bank. Wind blows bait in an fish take advantage of this caught the first bass on a 1/16 oz. curly tail crappie jig. Bass 4-5# ! 18Ē from there they got small 8-10Ē , 19 of them until it started raining..... I went home... no crappie tho.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 06:31 PM

It's amazing how small a bait really big bass will eat. My personal best LMB weighed a smidge over 8# and came on a 3" curltail grub. My best SMB weighed 7# and she ate a 1/2 oz rattletrap. I cant tell you how many big bass I've had weighed in during my years as a tournament director that were caught on micro sized baits like shakey head jigs and 3" frenchfry plastic. Just because they're big doesnt keep them from taking advantage of a feeding opportunity, regardless of the size of the bait. Protein is protein, I guess.

After I caught my breath and got over my mild heart attack, I had to laugh at myself. Then I was just thrilled at least one of my bass is still cracking heads.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Mike that will do it every time!

Went down to the pond a few minutes ago in a 25 mph wind. In the past I have caught fish with the wind in your face from the bank. Wind blows bait in an fish take advantage of this caught the first bass on a 1/16 oz. curly tail crappie jig. Bass 4-5# ! 18Ē from there they got small 8-10Ē , 19 of them until it started raining..... I went home... no crappie tho.


Sounds like it was definitely not a, uh, crappie day!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 07:51 PM

He he he, only the weather! But I like my crappie despite what everyone else thinks about them . They just misunderstood critters... lol
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 09:31 PM

Yep. Well, they get really big & are eager biters. And many folks think crappie are great eating, though I'm not a fan of the taste. Cold water BG are hard to beat for flavor in my book.

If somehow pondmeisters had crappie that wouldn't take over the lake...
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/26/18 10:55 PM

We are now getting a much needed rain, about 0.3 inch so far. A good rain, by recent standards.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 07:02 AM

this is what we got in the Dallas area in last 24

Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
He he he, only the weather! But I like my crappie despite what everyone else thinks about them . They just misunderstood critters... lol


Kinda like GSF!!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
We are now getting a much needed rain, about 0.3 inch so far. A good rain, by recent standards.


We gotten so much lately, I'd guess my little puddle has had at least two complete water changes in the last 6 weeks.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 09:18 AM

I am pretty sure we got 2" or better with the rains along with tornado warnings during the early morning hrs here. And while at the pond yesterday with the high winds I checked the water temps with a 57 at the surface and 55 at 4'. That is quite a bit warmer than it was a few weeks ago. And the fish were feeding at the feeders. I was surprised with the water temps being in the mid to high 50's. Pat, I should have wet a hook!
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 09:27 AM

Tracy, we just got another 4 1/2 inch rain!!! Unbelievable but the pond is getting another good flushing that it needs. It's still raining as I write this!!
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 09:40 AM

Average rainfall for a year in Dallas area is around 37 inches

In 2018 the Dallas area thus far around 55.61 inches
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 11:32 AM

We ended up with 1.64 inches. We are still about 6.5 inches low the past four months.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 01:15 PM

John, I don't even know what normal rainfall for deep east Texas per year is butÖ.you got me thinking and I went ahead and totaled everything I logged this year and I have had an unbelievable 104 1/2 inches of rain this year!!!! That's crazy.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 01:30 PM

I don't know exactly where you are, Flame, but the normal for Lufkin, TX is 50 inches per year, about two inches higher than here.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 01:36 PM

We had 3.5Ē last night. Second time the pond has been full in the five years since the pond was built.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 03:53 PM

John, I am on the Louisiana border about 55 miles farther east of Lufkin, Texas so I more than doubled the average this year. I got 21 1/2 inch in February alone!! I had 50 inches before the end of June!! I know I got 12 inches in just September!! Hard to believe. The pond didn't really start going over the spillway good until this month but it had gotton over 2 feet low before that. PAT, you got a great Christmas present!! A FULL POOL !!!! Yaaaay!!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 04:50 PM

I'm just north of I10 and 2 miles (as the crow flies) from the Tx/La line. This morning's rainfall was just over 1.5", bringing my total in the last 6 weeks alone to just over 14". Luckily, most of it has come in small amounts, but that toad choaker a few weeks back dumped over 6" and the pond was out of it's banks and flowing across the yard. I'm sitting here watching fish breaking water all over the pond, so it wasn't a cold rain. Bout time to go throw some feed!!

I called Toledo Bend this morning to check the flood gates. As of yesterday, the lake level was 172+'. Both generators running 24/7 and 5 gates open to 1 foot. The Sabine has been at flood stage since that torrent and now it'll be out of its banks....again! Thanks a lot Sabine River Authority!!
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/27/18 06:33 PM

What did I do at the pond today. Nothing.. I ran the chainsaw all morning around the farm, opening up roads etc.. So, my time at the pond was just recuperating. Enjoyed the quiet, except for some geese far overhead. Luckily they leave my little BOW alone. Water temp is 44* still a few inches low, but almost full. Iím thinking there is no ďbadĒ time to sit next to a pond.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/18 12:51 AM

I got a little over a 1/2 inch of rain this morning and it was pretty warm this afternoon when I went by the pond. For the first time in a long while, I had a fair amount of FHM activity, so I threw out some feed to see what would happen and I probably had a few hundred or more FHM coming up to feed. Probably been over 2 months since they've done that. It was fun to see.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/18 09:02 AM

Bob, how close are you to full? I may have missed it earlier. Are you getting close? Howís it holding? Hope your leak went away, or was just the soil sucking up the water.
Jeff
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/28/18 09:37 AM

Beautiful setting SetterGuy! Love all the trees!



Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today - 12/28/18 03:53 PM

Jeff, I wish I was close to full. Lol! I've been getting enough rain to keep things fairly wet, but not enough to gain much. I'm probably up about a foot since my last report. I'm at about 8.5', and still have over 10' to go. It's still doing about the same, the longer it stays around the same level, the slower it drops. I don't think it's dropped much more than .25" a day over the last month or so, and most of the time it is less than that. I still haven't had a rain big enough to give me any run off from the area above the sediment pond. I'm trying to get started on clearing out some of the under growth from that area, in hopes of getting more run off.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/29/18 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Beautiful setting SetterGuy! Love all the trees!



Thanks Zep. I think do to their thirsty nature they contribute to some water loss in the drier months, but they also keep a lot of the water shaded and cooler. They dump millions of leaves in every fall, but are pretty to look at. We like the peaceful feeling.

Bob, itís hard to believe youíve missed some of these hard rains weíve had in St Louis. Your place is a little like mine. I always see big storms barreling down on the farm, then they magically divide and somehow go around our farm. Eventually youíll get the series of gullywashers you need.
Jeff
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/30/18 12:19 AM

Jeff, it's happened to me so many times, split and go around me, I just have to laugh any more. lol! A lot of time I see it break up right as it gets to me and reform on the other side of me. lol! The pond is right at 16 months old now and has only had run off from above the sediment pond 2 times.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/30/18 10:59 AM

In the warmer months, or when we have thunderstorms as the main source of rainfall, we seem to be in a small rain shadow. There is a hill to the west and SW about six miles distant, running mostly N-S. It rises about 700-800 feet above surrounding terrain. There are other hills a bit further to the south, running E-W, that rise a little higher still. That seems small, but I really think it diminishes our warm season rainfalls that come up from the Gulf of Mexico.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 12:03 AM

John, I've been thinking the same thing. The town I live in is called High Ridge and it didn't get it's name for nothing. It's one of the highest areas around here and I'm on the NE side of it and most of my rain comes from the S and SW.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 08:45 AM

I picked up 5 Christmas trees off the streets. Plans are to get a few more today. I add them along the shoreline as brush piles and I also add them to a couple of poles that stand in a couple of areas in the pond that has 5' of water next to 10' drop off's. I add a tree or two to each pole every year. One thing I have seen from adding them along the shoreline is the TFS gather up around the trees during the early spring, I suspect they are spawning on the trees. I am hoping to keep my threadfins this winter but these cold rainy days we have been having could hurt my TFS survival this winter. I have also seen another spot on the banks where the Otter has been pooping. I have caught two but this one seems to have figured out where the traps are set.
Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 09:32 AM

Been gaining significantly for the past 6 weeks or so. A lot of brush clearing in the forest is paying off, there are new areas of runoff flowing into the pond. Up perhaps four feet. Still have trickles coming in from the woods. another 18 to 24 inches and we'll see how the primary overflow works!

I'm living at the pond now so I can see the runoff as it happens. Lawn areas are immediately productive and drain within minutes. I have decent Bermuda grass to manage erosion.

Forest areas must saturate, perhaps over several rain events, but then they start steady flows down each small wash. These flows may run for a week or more this time of year.

One forested hill along the pond is sand. All year it has a water table perhaps 15 feet above pond level. It seeps all year. A hole dug, even well above the pond will fill slowly. It's nice this time of year as a good looking green moss has filled in large patches and it looks great from the house.

My take away is that watershed, like our pond, is a much more complex system than most people think.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 10:26 AM

We just got 1.5Ē yesterday. With the ground saturated, Iím sure itís going out my overflow pipe this morning. Iím in Arkansas with new granddaughter, so I wonít see it until later this week. I should have raised my feeder a foot or so too. I imagine the bottom of the feeder is under. Hopefully not the lower motor. Itís been a while since weíve had water going out the pipe.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 10:51 AM

Congrats, on the new Granddaughter smile
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 11:13 AM

Jeff, congratulations on the new Granddaughter, and the rain!I don't think I'll get as much as you did but it was raining here this morning pretty good but has slowed down now and is close to over. It all helps!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 11:27 AM

We received just under 0.8" of rain from this storm overnight until it stopped about 9 AM this morning.

The old pond is up over 15" since November, but still 18" low. The newer pond is up about 12" since November, and only needs 2" more until full pool. Runoff is still occurring.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
Congrats, on the new Granddaughter smile


Thx. Iíd post a pic, but you guys would all be jealous. Iím told sheís the cutest one ever.. crazy just kidding..
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: SetterGuy
Originally Posted By: TGW1
Congrats, on the new Granddaughter smile


Thx. Iíd post a pic, but you guys would all be jealous. Iím told sheís the cutest one ever.. crazy just kidding..

It would be fun figuring WR though! :-))
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 12/31/18 06:08 PM

Shot a hog today...he was a big one

My buddy dropped him with one shot from his 30/30

I finished off the wiggly legs with AR-15

my buddy


me







Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/01/19 03:28 AM

Dang, that is a big hog.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/01/19 07:10 AM

It is.

Mark, have you been getting any hog damage, or are they just roaming at your place?
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/01/19 03:04 PM

Nice cutters
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/01/19 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Mark, have you been getting any hog damage, or are they just roaming at your place?


Al so far not really any hog damage around the cabins....it seems the hogs pretty much stay down in the bottom land/woods that has a creek bed and quite a few spots with standing water after a rain for a few days. I see hog track almost always when I walk back there.
Posted by: Tbar

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/01/19 04:46 PM

That was a good one Mark.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/02/19 09:10 AM

I see tracks but have only briefly seen 2 hogs this year
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/02/19 09:58 PM

Got up here late today. We had 1.5Ē rain a few days ago. It brought the pond up 5Ē, almost full. It did catch my feeder when it came up.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/03/19 09:00 AM

IS the feeder OK? Maybe you can make a flotation mount in the future?
Pond looks good when it is that full!
Any activity noted?
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 08:27 AM

I have been there, done that when it comes to TH feeder and rising waters. I was lucky enough to get some help to move it asap. Those dam things are heavy! I wound up building a platform using some two by fours and one by six's. a mini pier so to speak. It hang's out about 3' above and over the waters edge and make's a pretty good fishing platform also.

Had another Otter in a trap, that's three along with one beaver over the past few weeks. Pond is a magnet when it comes to otters and beavers. I have to keep a close eye out along with a few traps set after seeing any signs of either.

Water is now going through the syphon at the pond. Fish are fairly active at the feeders. Want to check water temps after this past rain event.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 09:11 AM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
IS the feeder OK? Maybe you can make a flotation mount in the future?
Pond looks good when it is that full!
Any activity noted?


It does look better, thatís for sure. I imagine the feeder is ok. The water didnít get to the lower motor. I had disconnected the battery earlier, so no water was thrown up into the feeder. There were some swirls out in the water. I did not throw any food out. It got down to 20 later that evening. I backed the feeder up the bank. Should have done it earlier, but most rains bypass our place. Another front coming through Monday. But itís just a couple inches from the pipe. If we could just get regular predicted rainfall, it would always look like this. Ha! Looking down behind the dam, thereís moisture in the old ravine bottom, but I really think itís just recent rain coming off the sides of the ravine and back of the dam. If I have a leak, itís impossible to find it. Wet spot is pooled water in the ravine, no current to it.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 09:18 AM

Tracy,
Itís amazing how much you have to deal with beavers and otters. I always think of them as mountain critters. Glad traps work on them.
Wish I could run a feeder a little longer. (When the aqua-pro is working). I just had a small amount of feed in it, so walking it up the bank on the back legs wasnít bad. When itís full, itís a two man job.
Jeff
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 10:11 AM

Sure having a lot of cormorants feeding? They can really put away the fish. Watched one grab a oversized BG and couldnít swallow it kept diving and coming back up again. The funny thing was that an osprey dove down and stole the BG from the cormorant! Was watching with binoculars so it was really cool to see . Funny thing that 4 cormorants over 2 days died on the water..... poisoned fish maybe..... to much lead I guess.... lol
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 11:38 AM

We received 1.28" of rain. The new pond is running over now, and the old (renovated slow leaker) is only 13" low. We'll see soon if more settling of the dam has occurred. I didn't see any fish out the spillway of the newer pond. Hopefully, the fish are staying deeper this time of year.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 02:11 PM

YES!! Really glad for you John that the water is coming and the ponds are flowing over!
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/04/19 06:06 PM

Strange phenom. Pat but...it does seem to happen more than you would think!! Hmmmm??
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/05/19 10:53 AM

Jeff, I consider them more as bottom land animals. I have a bayou or what we called a nice creek when I was growing up in Okla. This Bayou is about 300 yds from the pond and it is what I consider a travel corridor for animals, birds and reptiles. Remember the alligator I had in the pond awhile back?


It's been some different weather this year so far. This time last year we saw some 22 degree weather but this year we will have temps in the high 60's and maybe 70 for the next 4 days. Bob Lusk has said that we might get some bg spawn on warm days in Feb. but I am seeing some warm days in Jan this year so I will be adding 10 Christmas trees along the shoreline today. Building some brush piles for the bg fry to insure some fry survival. Adding shoreline cover has worked in the past, hoping it will do it again. And I am taking a great-granddaughter fishing today. She is 3 and likes to catch bg from the pier.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/05/19 11:07 AM

My Gambusia were up in 2-3" of water yesterday afternoon in the bright sunshine. It will be even warmer today (60s), and for the next few days, but will be low 30s by daylight.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/05/19 08:35 PM

Missing Dock Walkway Update:

First I thought I was going to be smart and jump on the floating walkway and basically stand and paddle it down the pond like a wind-surfer. That worked for about 2 mins until it started sinking and I went in water. Brrrr...

Next my buddy in jeans walked the luckily floating walkway back down to the other end of the pond where it belongs.

Then we put down some boards and pulled the Trex dock up on shore with two ATV's.

Water was cold, but fortunately temp got up to 70 degrees today.







Dock builder says on Monday when temps are predicted to be 68 degrees he will get walkway back onto bracing by using three 18 wheeler tire tubes. We'll see if his "trick" works.




Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/07/19 08:24 PM

Southern Leopard Frogs have shown up en mass after last week's rains. They are really singing at night. About an hour before dawn the guys are croaking like crazy, I guess they know it's almost dawn and they need to find a lady frog before the bar closes.

I expect a lot of pollywogs in a few weeks.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/19 08:44 AM

I added the 10 Christmas trees along the shoreline yesterday. Most were added to existing lay down tree branches and or last years Christmas tree brush piles. I saved the two largest ones for adding to the to Christmas tree poles that are out in the deeper water. I will add them today. All the shoreline trees were added using a single hole cinder block as the anchor. After all that I went through my fishing tackle and rigged up a Caroline rig using a pearl colored fluke with the tail died Chartreuse. Caught lmb from 13" to 18" all of them were above the 100% on the RW chart. And all the lmb looked really good and healthy. While I was lmb fishing I saw some fish feeding on TFS around the pond. I targeted the HSB using a pearl colored tube bait dragged along the bottom. Second cast produced an 18" 3 1/2 lb nice and healthy HSB. I called it a day after that. It was a good day at the pond to say the least. Water temp was 51.7 to 9'. And like Vortex, the frogs were many and loud as they called out for the night.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/19 07:36 PM

I went out to the pond to feed and noticed the clarity of the water since the last rain event has started to clear up again. It had been reduced to less than a foot but now is back to around 18".

After throwing a few handfuls of AM500, I took a stroll around the bank with my polorized sunglasses on and noticed that it appears I must have had a very late season spawn of BG. Looks like I've got hundreds, if not thousands of YOY around 1-1.5" long. You can see hundreds of minnows right at the bank's edge, and just out from the bank, which is rather steep, if you look deeper, maybe 8-10, you see schools of tiny panfish swimming by all in the same direction of travel, so I know I wasn't seeing the same fish. Kinda has me a bit concerned how successful my three LMB will be this spring when it's their turn to spawn. I may have to do some trapping and try to thin out some of those panfish numbers.

I also discovered what looks like a couple of patches of Chara starting to sprout in very shallow water. I haven't done a smell test yet, but from pictures I've seen here, that's what it looks like. I'm glad to see some vegetation starting to take hold and contribute to reducing my nutrient load.

The pond seems to be coming into it's own at just a little over two years old and having only bucket stocked a few dozen fish, but I may need to increase my LMB numbers to keep the "perch" under control. If nothing else, my 3 bass aught to have plenty to eat and could possibly need to be replaced sooner than I planned if they get too big, too fast.

It's definitely been a constant learning experience.
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/19 08:25 PM

My 1/10 acre pond is just about eighteen months...I'm looking forward to March.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/08/19 10:21 PM

I threw out feed. With this warm spell, the BG are feeding almost like they should in spring.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 12:29 AM

Sounds like you're doing great, Tracy! I have only one Christmas tree to add, but will supplement with small trees & brush from my property.

My number one priority is more dense habitat around CNBG spawning beds so the little guys can survive, that will be the focus of my efforts. TP and TFS to be stocked after temps warm.

Only really large CNBG are hitting feed now, along with some HSB. Much slower than last summer, but feed does get eaten with enthusiasm by the HSB. Few LMB in evidence around feeder.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 05:00 AM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
I threw out feed. With this warm spell, the BG are feeding almost like they should in spring.


I expected mine to pick up since the weather has warmed, but it's still really slow. I'm only throwing maybe 10 handfuls a day, and it's mainly smaller fish feeding. Don't know where my bigger fish are. I guess they're satisfied eating fry, and my LMB are ghosts lately.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 07:40 AM

Tried to fill my new pond with well water yesterday. I gave up after 5 hours. Just gonna have to wait for rain and snow.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 08:30 AM

New ponds take an unusual amount of water. Depending on the soil and compaction factor, they soak up a lot of water initially.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 11:02 AM

I was gonna wait to dig in spring but the guy was about to start a new contract this week. Now we just get flurries, no rain. Shouldn't take much for a tiny pond slightly larger than 1/8 acre.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 11:57 AM

wannapond, I toyed with filling my pond by using the yard spigot (regualr ole' well and well pump) and found that the pond would gain about 1 inch a day from bone dry empty. My pond is about 1/4 acre so it should grossly compare to a 1/8 acre pond when both are empty. As the pond gets more full the fill rate would slow down exponentailly...I figured it would take about one year to fill it up with my garden hose and surely it would fill by rain soon enough. The pond only filled to halfway by April of 2017 after being completed late 2016, then in May, it filled the rest of the way and well over the overflow pipe in on day! I was glad the wait was over, I thought it would never fill up.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 12:23 PM

I might connect directly to my 1" well poly pipe and get the full 10gpm with 1"poly to the pond. That might fill it in a few weeks. Maybe..
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 08:30 PM

My pump will do 120 gallons/minute. I can raise a quarter acre pond about 0.8 inch per hour after it's 3/4 full. It slows after that. That would be about 1.6 inches per day at 10 gpm, running 24/7. That's without evaporation or absorption. Yes, it will take a few weeks and lots of kilowatt-hours of electricity.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/09/19 10:28 PM

Sunk Christmas tree plus brush near CNBG spawning area, probably need to adjust location more precisely re Bob Lusk comments tonight. Three stupid cormorants, two beautiful eagles seen. Visibility near minimum for my BOW, around 2 feet.

Took out 11 inch LMB, caught& released a fat 18.5. Slow fishing overall.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/19 12:41 AM

anthropic, are FLMB easy to distinguish from NLMB?? Don't know that I've ever had my hands on a Florida strain..
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/19 07:53 AM

That is nice 120gpm? My property has 3 other wells that were abandoned due to low supply of water. Of course I just bought it last summer. The new well they drilled seems to have plenty of water, just not at that rate.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/19 08:20 AM

Originally Posted By: snrub
New ponds take an unusual amount of water. Depending on the soil and compaction factor, they soak up a lot of water initially.

The couple thousand gallons that's in there now doesn't appear to be going anywhere. I guess all clay helps. We tried the sheeps foot but it kept getting clogged so we stopped using it a 3rd of the way.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/19 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Snipe
anthropic, are FLMB easy to distinguish from NLMB?? Don't know that I've ever had my hands on a Florida strain..


Not for me they aren't, even though I have both in my BOW. When I get anything bigger than 8 lb then I'll be pretty sure it's a Florida!

The differences (other than top size) are small, even experts can't be certain of id just by appearance.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/10/19 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: wannapond0001
**** We tried the sheeps foot but it kept getting clogged so we stopped using it a 3rd of the way.***


Never heard of this. Can a pond builder comment on what one does when a sheepsfoot needs to be used to intermix and compact lifts of clay but the user can't use it because the clay plugs or 'fills' it?

Are we talking about 2 different 'sheepsfoot' tools?
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/11/19 08:06 AM

No pond builder but I have built a few ponds. grin

Too wet to compact properly.

Soil too dry will not compact properly and too wet will just squish (a technical term) around the compaction device rather than compress vertically.

One way to help that is to mix in some dry clay to take up some of the excess moisture or wait till it dries to the proper level.

We find this same phenomenon farming. We have little concerns of compaction on dry soils. Saturated soils if we have a wet harvest make terrible ruts in the fields to contend with, but do not really cause compaction problems as the water acts as a lubricant and the soil just squishes around. But at certain moist moisture levels excess trips across a field will cause problematic compaction layers. Best (or worst if you do not want it) compaction happens at moist but not saturated soil moisture levels.

Make a ball of clay with your hands. If it will not stick together it is too dry to compact. If it tends to squish between your fingers it is too wet. Somewhere between those two stages is just right.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/11/19 09:09 AM

I'm just hoping it doesn't leak. My pond builder said he guarantees it won't leak. I hope he's right! I've got his dozer still in my yard. Isn't possession nine-tenths of the law? I could clear some trees with that D6...
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/11/19 10:28 AM

I bet he did not make that guarantee in writing...
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/11/19 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: wannapond0001
I'm just hoping it doesn't leak. My pond builder said he guarantees it won't leak. I hope he's right! I've got his dozer still in my yard. Isn't possession nine-tenths of the law? I could clear some trees with that D6...


If you have good clay with no inclusions of other material that could cause leaks you probably are fine.

We hear about the leaky ponds here on PBF. But likely hear of few that didn't leak even though they may not have had proper compaction. Proper compaction is a necessity with some soils, an insurance policy with others. In our area we don't worry much about compacting the bottom of the pond unless a seam is found. Core trenches and dams normally get attention to proper compaction, the bigger the pond the more attention paid. Small ponds problems are more easily rectified than large projects. Lots of cow ponds in our area are nothing more than the top soil scuffed off the dam area and the ravine cleaned out and pushed up with a dozen. Most work fine, a few have dam seeps and the occasional one that gets into a sandstone seam that is not fixed won't hold water. But that is "here". Our solils and subsoil generally hold water very well. Build a field terrace with a low spot and you have a "pond" till it evaporates.

Many areas are not so "lucky" with their soils water holding capability though.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/12/19 12:49 PM

We received another 1.07" of rain since very early yesterday. Pond #1 is still about 10 inches low, and #2 and forage pond are running over. At least my first pond looks like a pond again, vs a mudhole.

Wonder how Bobbss pond is coming along with filling?
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/13/19 12:02 AM

John no big gains here, just slowly inching it's way up. We got around 9"-10" of heavy wet snow yesterday and over night. It turned my 30-40 minute drive home from work last night into over 7 hours. We had a light mix of snow, sleet and rain most of the day today. I haven't been able to go over and check on the pond yet, but I'm sure I'll have to wait for it to melt to see much gains. They say we should be getting more rain and snow at the end of next week.

I talked to my pond builder a few days ago. I think I'm going to have him come out and work on my watershed area to increase my run off, as soon as things dry out enough.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/13/19 10:06 AM

I gained 7 inches of snow so far smile More is coming Thursday thru the weekend! Just a small crater of snow.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/13/19 04:28 PM

I finally used up all of the AM500 I had. The feeding has been very slow at best for some time now, and with so much forage in the pond, I'm going to wait until the water warms back up before I decide whether to start feeding again. Time will tell.

This last little system dropped another 3/4" of rain and brings my total to 4" this year.

Decided to take some readings while I'm waiting for the Saints to pound on the Eagles (hopefully they show up). At 3:00, the air temp was 58*f, surface temp is 62*f, ph measured 7.0 on a litmas stick, alk is still very low (less than 40) and hardness is non existent. I really need to dump some more lime, and maybe some gypsum. Not sure if I should wait till March, when the rain slacks off or go ahead and do it now. I'd hate to spend $ just to have it flushed out the drain with more rain, since I'm at the pipe now.

Some insight from the chemists here would be appreciated
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/17/19 07:32 PM

Seven cormorants a fishing, four geese a honking, two eagles a soaring, and a partridge in a pear tree. Okay, so I'm kidding about the partridge.

Folks working on our deck reported seeing a cormorant grab a fish, then one eagle stole the finny feast. The water turkey submerged, but when it came up the other eagle attacked. Unfortunately, the cormorant managed to get away.

Taking a page from our Italian pondmeister, I strung 80 lb test fishing line between a couple of stumps out in the water to trees on shore. They are about 8 to 12 inches above water level. Idea is to make cormorants reluctant to land on water they might not be able to take off from. We'll see, still need to add some holographic scare tape to it.

Fishing was slow, but we did catch six in two hours. Two were 18+ inch fatties and were released, four below 12 inches culled.

Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/17/19 09:35 PM

Today I checked muskrat traps. I bought and put out 4 colony traps last week. 2 rats down so far. I am learning as I go with this one, I have never trapped anything in the water before. I placed the traps on runs I thought may be active that were in areas I was most concerned about (near or on the dam). I have been been moving them slightly at one location that is in a den to try and get in the main entry/exit run. Today I found some fresh mud near a run and moved one of the traps about 2 feet. If the pond doesn't have too much ice tomorrow, I hope to have at least one more muskrat for the coyotes and foxes to eat.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/17/19 10:05 PM

Lead seems to deter them (cormorants) not that I would do that.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/17/19 11:05 PM

Where you been CMM?? Good to hear from ya'll again.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 12:14 PM

Thought we had beavers....which is still possible...but caught an otter last night.





Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 12:31 PM

Iíll take beavers over otters any day
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 12:57 PM

Pat I think I have BOTH!

Otters eat fish, but I just planted some LobLolly pines a couple of months ago and worried beavers may see new trees as a buffet.



Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 02:17 PM

Checked the pond today with all the rain. No leaks so far. Still filling slowly. This was the only rain event since the dig. Snow's coming.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 02:26 PM

pics...been couple weeks since the dig.

[img:left]https://ibb.co/HhSm8ph[/img]
Posted by: gully washer

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: wannapond0001
pics...been couple weeks since the dig.

Lookin' good!..... Have you sharpened your ice skates yet?
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 03:31 PM

I don't ice skate but my daughter does smile
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 06:05 PM

We got another inch of rain with this last cold front. I was disappointed this morning when I woke up to find the pond really muddied up. Strange how sometimes it runs off clear, and other times the watershed is muddy. It had just gotten back to about 20 inches of visibility.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/19/19 07:29 PM

I guess with a new pond it'll wash the clay into the water, nice and cloudy. It looks to be about 4ft deep already from the middle. Couldn't believe just one rain event raised it up that much. Was a foot yesterday. Too bad any more runoff will be frozen in place with tonight's temperature in the teens.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/20/19 10:30 AM

Otter #2 this weekend. Wonder how many fish these rascals been eating?

Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/20/19 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Otter #2 this weekend. Wonder how many fish these rascals been eating?


More than they're gonna eat from now on. Were they coming through the pipe?

I've got a beaver to take care of myself. First one we've had in several years.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/20/19 11:18 AM

Al we think the beavers and otters are coming up a Lake Tawakoni creek-bed and calling the small albino cat pond home.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/20/19 12:08 PM

Zep, I am always on the lookout for both. Best way I have come up with to determine otters is look for their scatt. Can't miss it, it's full of fish scales. I have caught 3 in the last month along with a large beaver. And I am pretty sure the otters are feeding on the cnbg around the feeders. Based on the size of the fish scales seen in their poop. And mine also travel up and down the Bayou. I would keep your traps out for a least a month.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/20/19 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Flame
Where you been CMM?? Good to hear from ya'll again.

Flame, been way busy. Lost a job, started a new one, lots of stuff going on. Leaving not as much time to spend in front of the box.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/21/19 09:44 AM

Its been cold with really high winds so I stayed away for the pond for a couple of days. I even missed the last two days of duck season due to the high winds and high water. Kinda sucks since I've been training my Golden this past year. I made it to the pond yesterday afternoon. The high winds moved my floating pier a few feet and dropped a few tree limbs into the pond. The water visibility has gone to 48". The cnbg are still feeding at the feeders and I did see some chasing on the surface. And I caught another otter. It sucks but it's better than not catching them. I seem to catch 4 each time I find them at the pond. Ok, this is enough, hunting season is over, it's time for some nice 70 degree days.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/21/19 06:37 PM

I took a stroll around the puddle this evening and found a bunch of small snails in the grass near the overflow. I'm in the process of acquiring 100 3-5" RES to put in the pond. This will be the first fish I've bought for stocking. Hopefully, this size fish will be big enough to avoid heavy predation by my three LMB.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/21/19 08:00 PM

Went to the pond to start removing LMB. Fishing was slow in the 20 mph wind but caught 3 small ones
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 07:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
I took a stroll around the puddle this evening and found a bunch of small snails in the grass near the overflow. I'm in the process of acquiring 100 3-5" RES to put in the pond. This will be the first fish I've bought for stocking. Hopefully, this size fish will be big enough to avoid heavy predation by my three LMB.


Well crap, got an email reply from the only hatchery I'm aware of in Louisiana, and wouldn't you know it, they're not raising RES this year.

Anyone in Texas have a contact near the Louisiana border?
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 11:03 AM

Overtons in Buffalo probably would deliver to you or you could make a run there
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Overtons in Buffalo probably would deliver to you or you could make a run there


Thanks Pat. I've heard of them but couldn't remember it. It may be more cost effective for me to go get them and transport myself in a large cooler with aeration. Only need about 100 fish. I'll give them a shout and see what they've got.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 04:10 PM

When you do holler at me..... Iím 18 miles from them...... maybe meet up
You will like them
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 04:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
When you do holler at me..... Iím 18 miles from them...... maybe meet up
You will like them


Hey Pat,
Just talked to Shannon at Overtons. They recommended 100 but wont know what size they'll be until they pick them up sometime next week (either 2-3" or 3-4")

I'll have to go pick them up since it's such a small order, so maybe we can get together. She's a real sweet lady!!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 05:24 PM

Hope you didnít mention me cost ya 10% more! Just kidding Shannon is a riot
Get them as big as you can afford
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 06:43 PM

If I remember correctly, she said the 3-4" would be $0.65 each. I have no problem spending that. I just hope that's what they have. I've got just a handful maybe 3-4" fish that I bucket stocked, but I didn't get them until after their spawn. And I've trapped a couple smaller from the pond. I have no idea how many Harvey may have transplanted, so I may end up being a bit heavy on RES after this purchase, but that may make catching them a bit easier.

Oh, I did mention your name...and Shannon said ..."Who???!!!" Lol just kidding, I actually considered dropping your name but I was afraid they just might Jack the price up, so...


Nahh, really....thanks a lot Pat. It's much appreciated.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/22/19 09:37 PM

Glad to help Mike
While youíre at it ck out their CNBG
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 08:27 AM

Checked the pond again. With today's rain I should be 3/4 full. No leaks as far as I can tell. Glad I had all clay because it received very little compaction during the dig.
Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 10:12 AM

Got another good rain last night. The fullest it has ever been. Still more than a foot below the spillway.

Another (or the same) cormorant visited this morning. I scared him away again. I'm hoping if he doesn't get comfortable here he'll find another place to plunder. Nearby Lake Livingston is full of these endangered federally protected barely surviving unfairly taunted beautiful creatures.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 10:17 AM

Dern Iím glad to hear that someone likes them! Lol
Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 10:40 AM

Had this osprey visit again yesterday. He made a few passes but with the wind whipped waves he couldn't seem to spot lunch.

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/VQk8yfXDhvPbGF5D7[/img]

He is a welcome predator. I'd like to see him move in.

P.S. Anybody know how to make the above image display inline?
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 12:14 PM

We have a semi resident osprey and two bald eagles made an appearance yesterday
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/23/19 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Glad to help Mike
While youíre at it ck out their CNBG


If they have any 3-4" on hand, I may try to add about 50 into that box of RES, and hope they'd mix in with the native BG and help improve the size genetics.

Edit: Sent Shannon a text to find out if they had any CNBG ready, what sizes and price. I added 50 (3-6") to my order.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 07:26 AM

My seem to be resident Osprey attacked and chased off a great Blue Herron. He actually made an attack like a fighter plane might do, as the GBH was feeding along the shoreline. And after that display the Osprey hid somewhere and showed up again an hr or so later to run off another GBH. This second GBH never made it to the shoreline. You think this Osprey has declared this as his fishing spot? smile And just because I enjoy watching does not mean I am a fan of the Osprey.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 11:42 AM

Tracy I had an osprey steel a fish from a cormorants grasp now that was cool, just wished heíd taken out the corm
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 01:42 PM

Not sure who eats more, but sounds like your better off feeding one Osprey, if he keeps the rest of the fish thieves away. lol!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 04:27 PM

Bob Iíve been agitating the fish thieves..... osprey, bald eagle, GBH, they get a pass but cormorants...... not so much.... or otters
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 07:40 PM

My son in law used a drone to take video of the pond & surroundings. Amazing technology! Wonder if it could be used to buzz off cormorants and maybe even find eagle nest, though I do not want to disturb eagles.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
wonder if it (drone) could be used to buzz off cormorants


interesting idea that will probably happen one day...
a robot drone that would scare off the herons & other thieving birds
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/24/19 08:30 PM

Saw a video several months back where a large city in Canada (Ontario?) hired a company with drones to keep geese away from public areas. Seemed to work well. I'm betting it would work with any unwanted water fowl. We have a new chocolate lab puppy and I'm hoping she will serve the same purpose! smile
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 07:46 AM

That's cool Bill D. What did you name the pup? They are very smart and I have learned over the years that its all about the trainer when it comes to what all they can be. And Al recently made a comment about Highflyers new flying toy. Something was said about fling it over the pond.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 07:03 PM

Not what I did today, but what I'll be doing tomorrow! Today we bought apple, peach, plum, satsuma, orange and fig trees, as well as two blue berry bushes and a thornless blackberry bush. All of them are going to be planted around the perimeter of the pond tomorrow. Hope I don't kill them all!!!
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 07:05 PM

Noticed it was full. We had rain after the snow, then a big temperature drop. Result is ice on the snow. Must have had good runoff.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 08:18 PM

that's really pretty SetterGuy
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 09:05 PM

One hundred for one tenth acre?
Posted by: DannyMac

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/25/19 09:24 PM

Fish roaming the surface mid-winter: All except the catfish were on the surface today...bluegill and bass were making their rounds and eating feed...weird given that our weather has been similar for weeks...lows low forty's or high thirty's and highs mid fifties to mid sixties (a few 70s) and nothing but a few big bluegills normally feed. Bottom of pond is at its coldest, 47 F, having dropped from 52 F (last time I was running aerators in a 72 F high averaging 62 F that day. I have quite a few bluegill that want to eat everyday, no matter the weather, but they normally in winter hit the feed with a momentary strike. Today they were hanging and taking feed as if it was gourmet...savor it, approach, take, move a foot, hang. The bass were just cruising around...a few of the few grab a pellet now and then. The experience (less the catfish) was like mid-summer. We are due for almost a week of cooler (averaging about 45 F) weather. Do you think the fish somehow know this? I've not thrown a Farmer's Almanac into the pond.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/26/19 08:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
that's really pretty SetterGuy


Thanks. Been very cold this week, and even colder next week. (-6 one night).
I think Iíll get the chance to ice fish this year. eek
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/26/19 03:20 PM

SetterGuy, that is awesome, ready for ice skating, no shovels needed. I'll bet catching your jumbo perch through the ice would be a great amount of fun.

Has anyone caught HSB through the ice?
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/26/19 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
SetterGuy, that is awesome, ready for ice skating, no shovels needed. I'll bet catching your jumbo perch through the ice would be a great amount of fun.

Has anyone caught HSB through the ice?


I think it isn't safe to walk on. Not cold enough, long enough. It's 54 degrees here right now. The thin ice on the ponds early this morning has already cleared off.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/26/19 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: DannyMac
One hundred for one tenth acre?


I assumed you were directing this to my future purchase of RES. That's what Todd Overton recommended. I think his reputation and knowledge speaks for itself. If nothing else, it may make catching them a bit easier!

Btw...this 1/10 acre is holding an acre foot of water.
Posted by: ShortCut

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/26/19 09:17 PM

Today I added a 20ft cedar tree off the dam and cleaned up cactus along a shoreline. Cacti is heavy! Some stalks were 6in thick. Used a machete and pitchfork to dig them up by the roots. No poison next to the tank. Lots more further down the line.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/27/19 09:18 AM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
SetterGuy, that is awesome, ready for ice skating, no shovels needed. I'll bet catching your jumbo perch through the ice would be a great amount of fun.

Has anyone caught HSB through the ice?


Ha! The ever elusive HSB! Maybe that will be the secret to actually catching one. Through the ice..
The ice has to be thick enough by next weekend. Monday through Friday lows. 7, -8, -6, 18, 24. Iím just not sure Iíll be able to get my hand powered auger through the ice.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/27/19 10:16 AM

Wow, SetterGuy, that is cold. What a difference being only about 230 miles south makes. Weíve only had some morning thin ice on the ponds here.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/27/19 07:09 PM

Walked on top of my frozen half filled new pond. Pond guy left his dozer ever since he dug the pond. I'm tempted to test drive it. He's coming back to put the overflow once the weather is better.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/27/19 09:42 PM

Got all of my fruit trees in the ground today. Have to go by the Co-Op tomorrow and grab a bale of wheat straw to mulch them with before this next front gets here.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/29/19 03:02 AM

We put holographic bird scare tape on several trees bordering the pond, plus on a couple of cormorant favorite stobs. Worked pretty well discouraging them last year, we'll see about this year.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/29/19 05:17 AM

What kind of bird scare tape? Never thought of that.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/29/19 09:37 AM

Frank, can u post up a pic of what it looks like and where u added it to the pond? Do you just tape off a limb or a stump? Did you give up on the big eye balloons or whatever the other scare off device was?
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/29/19 11:35 AM

I ordered this from Home Depot: Aspectek 200 ft. Double Sided Holographic Bird Scare Ribbon Tape. Took about a week to ship to my local store. They have a similar tape that is thinner which would probably work, too.

Key is to tie it so that 2 to 3 feet is exposed to the wind & freely flaps in a breeze. Makes some noise & flashes. Doesn't seem to bother geese much, but cormorants are a different matter.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/30/19 07:37 AM

Good to know, thanks. Most all I have to tie off to is just above the surface and I would think the tape would just lay there in the water. I do have a couple of trees in the water but they are dead now and high winds are laying them over into the water. They are breaking off about a foot above of the water. Might be, I could add a 10' T Post to 5 foot water depths giving me 5' above the water to tie off to. It would be nice to keep all the birds away.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/30/19 05:15 PM

Sounds like a good idea, Tracy. I'd think the best spot or spots would be where you see the greatest concentrations of cormorants resting or fishing. At least at my place, they really don't like the sight & sound on a breezy day.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 01/30/19 10:18 PM

Unprecedented cold and snow here in SW MI. Kids have had 3 consecutive snow days and tomorrow off too, might be a whole week off school.

Despite our efforts, and the bitter cold, the one edge of the pond still appeared newly wet yesterday during the day. I can't imagine how that is possible in the below zero windchills! Must be the weight of the snow on the edge pushed water up from underneath and into the shallows.

We were clearing ice frequently the last few days but the lake effect snow kept coming. The kids want to skate once air temps are safe for skin exposure.

but in the coldest hour we get water on the pond. Now the 2 stage walk behind snowblower is useless as the wet snow freezes in the housing and chute as soon as the air hits it. I dare use the quad with plow but it can't move the wet banks.

My JD mounted snowblower might do an OK job but I don't trust to put it on the ice near the wet spot.

2 days of cold and then air temps in the 40s and rain Sunday. Strange.

Oh well, no snow till January, now 3 feet in the yard, 5 foot banks around the pond, we got a few days of skating in I guess.

Might have to just settle for some ice fishing!
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/02/19 05:31 PM

What did I do at my pond today? Today I learned that muskrat runs are deeper than my muck boots. And that pond water is cold around here this time of year. (Ya'll wear your waders, hear?)
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/03/19 10:12 PM

After a couple of warm days, the BG were following me around the ponds, so I fed them this afternoon, and got a good feeding response from the BG. That's great for the 3rd of February. The lowest official temperature so far this winter is 11 F.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/04/19 08:50 AM

I have been keeping two Conibar traps out at the far end of the pond. This area is nearest to the bayou. And I caught another beaver yesterday. Both traps had gone off but only one had a beaver in it. First time for me where a trap went off and nothing was in it. These traps are about 10 yds apart from each other. The beaver was headed into the pond. I think it was looking for a new place to set up a home.

I have been concerned lately that the pond is running short of 3 to 4" cnbg because I just don't see many at the feeders. I do see maybe 50 to a hundred cnbg in the 7 to 10" size that hang out at each feeder. So I sat out looking for some of the smaller sized and discovered that if I hand threw some feed around the brush piles along the shoreline and a good distance away from the feeder I would see around a dozen or so come to the feed. They were in that 3 to 4" range. I felt better after seeing the smaller sized cnbg.


The cnbg and the feed trained lmb along with the HSB were all pretty active on the Aquamax. So I increased the amount of the LMB feed.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/04/19 11:07 AM

Tracy, I've had similar results from my feeding this fall & winter. Real big CNBG only, little guys are scarce. Probably YOY are in dense cover, like yours.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/04/19 03:33 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
I ordered this from Home Depot: Aspectek 200 ft. Double Sided Holographic Bird Scare Ribbon Tape.


anthropic.....following your lead I just purchased some of this scare ribbon tape on Amazon. It will be in Wed so I can install this weekend.

Where do place it and how do you place it?

Do you walk out into the shallow water with poles and tie it to the poles? Or place it on dock? Or just along various spots on shoreline?

I've been invaded this winter with "Water Turkey" (anhinga) the ones that dive under the water. In the past the gator heads were pretty effective in scaring them off....not this year.

When I am there I scare them off, but I am usually only there on weekends so I assume they are eating a lot of fish.

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/04/19 09:59 PM

I have a few stobs sticking above the water that they love to perch on, so I've found wrapping scare tape around it and letting some hang loose is effective. You don't want just to wrap it around the stob, nor have so much tape that it lays flat on the water. You want it to flap in the breeze unrestricted, making noise & flashing in the sunlight.

Tree trunks close to favorite bird spots also work. If birds are really bad, you might hammer in a post where the water turkeys congregate and fly the tape there, too.

The tape doesn't last forever, but we found most of it was ok four to six months. Seemed to work better than the scare eye balloons, at least at our place.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/05/19 12:05 AM


180' of hand-laid riprap down, 400' to go!!!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/05/19 12:26 AM

We had another warm and breezy day, and I fed again right before sundown. To my surprise, the CC were swimming around feeding on top like they do in summer. It's only February 4th!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/05/19 11:52 PM

Fed again today. Even better CC reaction. I thought they wouldn't feed on top unless water was above about 68 degrees. Last year they didn't start until early May.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 12:32 AM

Got HVAC all connected & working at pond house! Now we can bring in furniture & stay there. Still have siding to put up and grass sod, but this is a big step forward.

Fished about 2 1/2 hours with buddy. We caught ten, culled eight, buddy lost one in the 4 to 5 lb range. Again, anything longer than 15 inches is fat & very healthy.

Despite newly deployed bird tape, cormorants were on lake. Sigh. Don't know if this group is tougher than last year, or maybe more desperate. Also a kingfisher, two Canada Geese (who hung around the one feeder with food!), two GBH and the mated pair of bald eagles. More turtles than last summer.

Long 80 lb fishing line strung from trees to stobs don't seem to have done a lot to discourage cormorants. Oh well, you never know until you try.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 08:39 AM

Build it and they will come?

I can see it from the birds point of view. Go fishing in some other BOW where food is scarce, or COME TO THE BUFFET!

Easy choice. Sigh. It will start at our place soon enough.
Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 03:17 PM

Fish are feeding well (MVP). Bass are visible, often hovering near the surface. The LMB are almost a year old and are big enough to see from inside the house which is cool.

Two turtles (red ear sliders) are around. First time I've seen them on a log sunning. They look happy too.

Stopped by the feed store and ordered one bag of Aquamax LMB. It comes in friday. I suspect the LMB are big enough to eat it now.

Surface temp was 70 this morning. We have a cold front coming through but it won't be long before spring sproings.
Posted by: ShortCut

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 03:29 PM

Tossed in some food, no takers. Walked the shore to see what was out and found a severed CC head floating. Stocked CC in Oct and this was the right size. Do you think it died and was chewed off? Pretty clean looking to be chewed off. Will take pics if I find any more.
Kept walking to the cactus patch and dug up more. Tossed sticks for the dogs.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 03:36 PM

I'd venture to say the fish died of something stress related and what you found was left over turtle lunch. They cut pretty clean when that mouth clamps down and rips a piece off.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 03:42 PM

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Been fighting a kidney stone the last few days and it sent me home from work early. After laying around several hours it finally eased up enough that felt like walking around a bit, so out to the pond I go. I witnessed several decent BG suspended rather shallow so I decided to get a better look.

Grabbed a slice of bread for dough ball bait and in 20 minutes pulled out 3 like this one.

The little mutt pond is coming right along!!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 04:10 PM

Hope you get to feeling better
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 04:50 PM

Thanks Pat. I think I'm through the worst part of it now. Just gotta wait till it decides to get ejected completely. That's always fun!!! Not my first stone rodeo, tho, so at least I know what to expect.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 05:22 PM

Nice fish, Mike! Sorry about the stone, I've been through that myself and it was not fun.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/06/19 05:49 PM

Thanks bud! The few minutes of fishing definitely made me feel better. All three were very feisty and gave my light action rod a good workout. Cant wait to catch one those bigger ones down there.

At least I didn't have to get this one surgically removed....that blows dog farts.

This one was probably the better of the three... guessing close to 8".

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Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/08/19 09:32 AM

Day before yesterday I saw some lmb crusein the 2' shallows in pairs. Also saw 4 or 5 hanging out around the feeders mixed in with the cnbg. The were also in the one to two foot water. And when hand feeding Aquamax lmb some were feeding aggressively . The FLMB mixed in do not show any interest in the lmb feed and you can see them looking over the bg. These lmb would move a couple of feet stop and look for something in there mouth gape size to eat. And while hand feeding, the Hsb were really aggressive. But, this all took place before we had the front come in with some cooler weather and rain. I pulled out the fly rod using a shad type bait and went looking for some of the lmb hatch from last spring. Caught one in the 7" range looked pretty healthy to me. Does not seem to be large mount of these sized fish. Also caught and removed a one eyed, poor conditioned 15" lmb
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/08/19 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Snipe

180' of hand-laid riprap down, 400' to go!!!


That will really help with shore line erosion when your wind whips up. I did it to my 3 acre pond but was not going to on my RES or old refurbished one acre ponds. But after seeing what the wind was doing to the banks and dam, I did both of them. I was a lot more lazy. I used the front end loader on my tractor. Sprinkled a half bucket down the bank and into the water a ways, then put the bucket at 45 degree angle and pulled it back firmly into the bank.

Don't forget to put some below water line. As pond level drops during droughts, bare dirt will be exposed subject to erosion.

Bank erosion and rock lining.

For the people that don't like the looks of rock around the edges, in two or three years the grass and algae
will fill in and you don't even know it's there.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 08:29 AM

Still frozen, so I just took a picture. No snow on the ice, and water is trickling out the overflow pipe. This is by far the longest itís ever been frozen over. Hope my fish are ok..
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 12:09 PM

Man, that is amazing. We have not been completely iced over all winter, and only about 245 miles south of you. The temperature gradient is really steep.
Posted by: canyoncreek

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 01:29 PM

SetterGuy, you should be good. Clear ice, lots of sun. Fish should be fine. I am worried about winter kill for the first time in SW MI. I have 4-5" clear ice, we kept it clear of snow in January. then we got snow, heavy rain so we had 5-6" standing water on the ice, then heavy snow and slush. It now is a slushy mess and I can't safely get on it to shovel it. I also have no vegetation to make O2.

Did you try ice fishing for those HSB yet?

We'll have to see, hopefully we get an early spring and snow and slush melts!
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: canyoncreek
SetterGuy, you should be good. Clear ice, lots of sun. Fish should be fine. I am worried about winter kill for the first time in SW MI. I have 4-5" clear ice, we kept it clear of snow in January. then we got snow, heavy rain so we had 5-6" standing water on the ice, then heavy snow and slush. It now is a slushy mess and I can't safely get on it to shovel it. I also have no vegetation to make O2.

Did you try ice fishing for those HSB yet?

We'll have to see, hopefully we get an early spring and snow and slush melts!


Phytoplankton also produces oxygen. Some ponds don't have submerged plants.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 02:46 PM

The pond was down 4.5 feet most of last summer. So thereís a lot of weeds that were along the bank, that are now under water. We are in the teens again today and tonight, plus 3Ē of snow on top today. With the exception of GS, I donít think my fish population is that high.
I didnít try ice fishing again. My pellet stove was down, so I spent the day tearing it apart. Finally tracked it down to a bad auger motor. On order.. Plus, I wasnít sure about the ice this time. It seemed solid, but thereís nobody around to help me if it wonít hold 250 lbs..
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 05:13 PM

Yesterday went to the pond and caught a BIG LMB, close to 10# and bout to bust with eggs. Didnít have my phone with me so not to stress the old girl I looked at her for a few seconds and slid her back in. WOW that was cool!only pix is in my mind
Posted by: Bill D.

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 05:25 PM

Congrats Pat! I guess that solves the mystery of what happened to all your BCP!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 05:27 PM

Pat, Pat, Pat. Haven't you ever heard if you ain't got a picture, it's just another fish story!!??

No, really, congratulations on a great catch. I've been bass fishing all my life in places where BIG bass are abundant and I've never boated a 10 pounder. Sounds like your pond is producing some behemoths.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 05:29 PM

Pat, I would hate for anyone to see a snapshot of whats in my mind!! Then again...it wouldn't take up much film!! Great job on that 10 pound lmb!!
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Congrats Pat! I guess that solves the mystery of what happened to all your BCP!


Yes thatís kinda what I thought Bill... shame too cause I want BCP more than I do bass... oh well when you get delt lemons then make some lemonade.... itís all good.
Posted by: Bob-O

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/15/19 09:06 PM

Pat, that is great. They sat that a pic is worth a thousand words. I say a C&R of a fish like that to pass on it's genes is worth a thousand pics. Ya done good !!!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 07:48 AM

Well done Pat! A 10lb lmb can eat a pretty big CP and most likely did eat a few of them smile What did you catch her on?
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 09:30 AM


Originally Posted By: TGW1
Well done Pat! A 10lb lmb can eat a pretty big CP and most likely did eat a few of them smile What did you catch her on?


Big bite cane thumper / 3/0 flashy swimmer ..... they canít resist ......watermelon red ghost
As tough as your Florida are to catch that might be the cure
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 10:13 AM

Very cool Pat. Congrats.

Since we're kinda sorta talking about swimbaits, I've really, really become a big fan of soft swimbaits and molded gliders over the last few years. In clearer water like mine, they attract larger LMB better than anything with a rattle. That's just my experience here though.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 10:19 AM

Thatís two 10# on those around here and countless 5-8 # the other great bait is Rebel Pop-R caught 2 back to back 8s last fall in the pond across from me last fall. Charlie(Stickem ) turned me on to the cane thumper
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 10:52 AM

The Pop-R's a classic for sure. There's no telling how many poppers were based(copied) on Rebel's design.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 12:09 PM

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I got up this morning and decided to rake some FA from around the spawning area of the pond. In the process, I raked up this little guy hiding in the FA. My dad used to call them pumpkin seed, but I've since learned that species doesnt exist around here. I'm thinking it's a Longear. Regardless, it sure is a pretty little fish. Actually raked up two very near to each other. I've never seen more than just a handful swimming around in 2 1/2 years.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 01:26 PM

That is a pretty fish. Too bad they don't get very big.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 01:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Congrats Pat! I guess that solves the mystery of what happened to all your BCP!


Yes thatís kinda what I thought Bill... shame too cause I want BCP more than I do bass... oh well when you get delt lemons then make some lemonade.... itís all good.


Well it goes to show, even trash fish (LMB) can be fun. grin
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: snrub
Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Originally Posted By: Bill D.
Congrats Pat! I guess that solves the mystery of what happened to all your BCP!


Yes thatís kinda what I thought Bill... shame too cause I want BCP more than I do bass... oh well when you get delt lemons then make some lemonade.... itís all good.


Well it goes to show, even trash fish (LMB) can be fun. grin


Ouch! They are fun to catch though Iím having better luck with LMB than my preferred fish ( unnamed) smile More lemonade John
Posted by: jpsdad

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/zCgn32AxHVGhQTLY9[/img]

I got up this morning and decided to rake some FA from around the spawning area of the pond. In the process, I raked up this little guy hiding in the FA. My dad used to call them pumpkin seed, but I've since learned that species doesnt exist around here. I'm thinking it's a Longear. Regardless, it sure is a pretty little fish. Actually raked up two very near to each other. I've never seen more than just a handful swimming around in 2 1/2 years.


The ear tab is long like a longear but isn't as bright an orange as I am used to seeing. I was wondering if it may be a dollar sunfish given the small mouth and olive coloration. There is a lot of variation in longears though where each native drainage seems to have longears of distinguishable appearance. Below are some pics of a Dollar sunfish.

Dollar sunfish pics

Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 03:47 PM

Looking the attachment, could very well be dollar sunfish. And yeah, they dont seem to get much bigger than the two I raked up this morning.
Posted by: jpsdad

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/16/19 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
Looking the attachment, could very well be dollar sunfish. And yeah, they dont seem to get much bigger than the two I raked up this morning.


Should you make a positive ID, don't forget to add them to the list smile .

The BG are starting to bite better here in N. Texas. When the cold front was coming in yesterday, just couldn't talk my daughter into going home until we ran outta bait. It was her birthday yesterday and I couldn't have been happier when she demanded to spend her birthday walmart cards on a rod and reel of her own. She's 8 now and she bought a serious rod and reel for her age ... no princess or Barbie pole for her!
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/19 12:56 PM

O.77 inches of cold rain last night. New pond is overflowing again. Old pond is 6" below overflow. Creeks are roaring again. With the saturated ground, it does not take much.
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/20/19 02:54 PM

My new pond is still a few feet from full for the rain last night. No leaks.
Posted by: ShortCut

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/23/19 07:59 PM

Todays 7'Lx5'Wx4'T mesquite log fish crib made it to the end of the dry dock 8ft from shore and got stuck in the mud. So I went swimming. That is one way to put it. Another way is that I fell out of the boat head first. It was my dog Apollo's fault of course. Long sleeves, jeans, leather gloves and boots make a pretty good wet suit. Had to call it a day at that point. Also cut a dozen cedar trees. Dragged a few to the tank. Some will be fluffy stuff and others will be bound for use as dense cover. The wind was howling and blew one off the dam into the tank.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/24/19 08:24 AM

I spent the late afternoon setting on the pier for awhile hand feeding Aquamax lmb to my HSB and LMB. I slowly added a few chunks at a time to the water so I could get a close up look at the fish as they feed. What surprised me was at the two different places on the pond where I feed I went through 150+- cubes at the pier and 300+- cubes at the other spot. I feed for about 30 min at each spot but I only feed as much as they wanted to eat. I enjoyed the feeding time but if I feed that much every day my feed bill would go up two fold. 100 chunks weigh about 1 lb 4 oz so I feed around 6 lbs +-.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/24/19 08:28 AM

Shortcut...how do you plan to anchor that wood down? Also it may surprise you how fast that wire will rust and give way allowing your logs to float away. Might think about lashing together with some type of poly anchor rope. I really like what you did. Just hoping it stays together for you.
Posted by: ShortCut

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/24/19 08:53 AM

It is staked down mostly submerged right now just to saturate. Probably going to tie two blocks together and hang a pair on both ends. I'm hoping the galvanized twisted fence wire will out last the logs!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/24/19 03:02 PM

It's such a beautiful day here today, I spent a couple hours soaking some dough balls. Caught a few decent BG, and another BGxWM hybrid about 7".

After I got Mr Jones satisfied I took some readings. At 1:30 pm the air and surface temps were 68*f. PH measures 7.5 and visibility is about 36".

Trying to decide when to turn the aeration back on. Trees are budding out and pine pollen is really thick on the windward side of the pond. I'm afraid it's just a matter of time now before I get an algae bloom. Hopefully it wont be BGA.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/24/19 11:59 PM

The last 3 days I got my FHM to come up and feed some. The pond had been frozen over for a few weeks, and it still had ice covering about a 3rd of it the first day they feed. I was surprised to see it.

I hope I can do more stocking soon!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/26/19 08:06 AM

Well, a Bald Eagle showed up yesterday. Pretty bird to say the least. Lets see, This year I have had a Bald Eagle, an Osprey and Cormorants and 3 dead Otters. Whew! Mother Nature can put a hurt on your pond fish!!!

Note, No cormorants on the pond and I thought I was the reason but now, I am guessing the Eagle has declared my pond his pond and is the reason no more of those darn fish eating black birds.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/26/19 08:35 AM

Tracy, I do have 2 pairs of wood ducks staying at the pond again. They have been scouting out my homemade wood duck house again!! Maybe I will have a good hatch again this year. I cleaned and refilled the house a couple months back in preporation for them to return. I watched yesterday as the feeder goes off (yes, I got my feeder working again) and the ducks don't even fly off! Hope they stick around.
Posted by: nehunter

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/26/19 09:20 AM

TGW1 do you think it is the bald eagles or osprey keeping the cormorants away. I have a lot of cormorants at my lake and this fall 3 bald eagles are showing up 4 or 5 times a week. If they would keep the cormorants away I would gladly feed 3 eagles than 40 cormorants.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 02/27/19 08:28 AM

nehunter, I am not sure if the Eagle is keeping the cormorants away. I did see six of them at the pond a couple of days ago but the next day the Bald Eagle showed back up again this year. And he is observing things from a large tree that is real close to the pond. I have not seen a cormorant since. I can tell you the Osprey did run off a lot of birds including the Great Blue Herron's. He also kept the Kingfisher off the pond. The Osprey seems to be very aggressive and territorial.


Flame, I had a pair of woodies land on the pond yesterday evening. I've had large groups (flights) of them ( 10 to 15 per group and as many as 3 flights at a time ) land on the pond and they would go right after the feeders when they went off. It totally surprised me how they would go right to the feeder. Not sure if they were familiar with feeders or the splash of the cnbg feeding. I removed my wood duck boxes from the pond. I just did not like the possibility of my bass eating the ducklings. I am cleaning and moving the boxes to the bayou.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/10/19 11:39 AM

I ordered my first batch of fish food for the year! Cannot wait for West Central Missouri to warm up enough to start feeding.
Posted by: Hollywood

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/10/19 12:04 PM

Have two ponds next to each other. Shiners are getting plentiful in the one without largemouth. Ice fished for awhile and caught a couple dozen 3.5- 4.5Ē ones, snipped off about 85% of their tails and put them in the bg lmb pond. Hopefully take a little pressure off the bg for a bit. Was trying for pumpkinseeds, yp and smb in one pond, bg and lmb in the other. The smb arenít keeping up predation so Iím planning on moving over some of the lmb culls this spring. Tons of shiners, yp and little pumpkin seeds for them. I expect theyíll grow quickly. Still hoping to keep one pond for bg and one for pumpkinseeds. Time will tell.
The sun felt different, days are getting longer. Our local lakes have more ice cover than they have in decades. But itíll go pretty quickly now.
Looks like Iím going to be eating more little lmb than Iíd originally planned. Culling lmb from both ponds is going to become the majority of the fishing done here from the look of it.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/10/19 07:43 PM

It was a day of 7s here today. The air temp was 78f, the surface temp was 72f and the Ph measured 7.5. The fish are getting really active. My three LMB were cruising around together, first time Ive seen that since I transplanted them last year. The largest of the three looks to be around 2 lbs now, and they all look really healthy. Actually saw the biggest clear water in hot pursuit of some kind of panfish and all three have been busting heads on and off all day. I'm going to lay off feeding again for a while longer, so my bigger fish will have to feed naturally, but I'm thinking I may start back up around May.

I walk the pond every day hoping I'll see one of my LMB making a bed, but so far...nothing. If they don't do something soon, I guess I either have all boys or all girls. Not a totally bad situation, but I really hope I might get a little recruitment from them. The water temp is definitely warm enough now, but there is no sign of any active beds and since they're all cruising, I'm kinda doubting they're ready yet.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/10/19 11:55 PM

Tracy, eagles have stolen fish from cormorants and even attacked them at my place. If that helps move the cormorants along I'm all for it.

Saw five deer and two geese last time I visited. Still want to raise water level a few inches before summer dry spell hits. Moved furniture to place on the lake, so glad we have a ramp!
Posted by: Augie

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 01:35 PM

I hit the marsh at Eagle Bluffs conservation area over the weekend in hopes of catching some grass shrimp and scuds.

I didn't find either of those, but I did come across a pool that was absolutely swarming with daphnia. I collected many thousands that I brought home and dumped into my pond.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Augie
I hit the marsh at Eagle Bluffs conservation area over the weekend in hopes of catching some grass shrimp and scuds.

I didn't find either of those, but I did come across a pool that was absolutely swarming with daphnia. I collected many thousands that I brought home and dumped into my pond.


It's trips like that that bring out the 10 year old in me! It sounds like it was good day.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 05:43 PM

Just took my afternoon stroll around the pond and found 5 different GSF, all around 7", tending nests. Apparently, one of them had already been visited by a female, as it was loaded with 2-3" raiders, picking the bottom of the nest clean. Still no sign that any of my LMB are interested in spawning.
Posted by: Augie

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Quarter Acre
Originally Posted By: Augie
I hit the marsh at Eagle Bluffs conservation area over the weekend in hopes of catching some grass shrimp and scuds.

I didn't find either of those, but I did come across a pool that was absolutely swarming with daphnia. I collected many thousands that I brought home and dumped into my pond.


It's trips like that that bring out the 10 year old in me! It sounds like it was good day.


Yeah I was tickled. The only fish in my pond are a couple dozen FHM that I tossed in after going crappie fishing yesterday so the daphnia should have a chance to become established before there's anything in there that wants to eat them.

I also dipped up half a dozen gambusia minnows from the marsh. I put those in my wife's aquarium with the guppies. lol
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 11:17 PM

We have another warm spell going. The CC are feeding on top again.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/11/19 11:38 PM

John, it was only about 50 hear today but I threw out a few handfuls of feed and had lots of FHM coming up to feed. The sunshine had some of them on top already. I'm hoping for some good rain over the next few days, so I can stock something besides FHM.lol!
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 10:12 AM

Looked for curly-leaf pondweed in the YP/SMB pond again yesterday and could not see any. Should this be breaking the surface now in central Indiana? It seems hard to believe that the papershell crayfish have been this effective at controlling it. Water is a bit cloudy from the recent rains, so maybe I am just not seeing it yet.
Posted by: Bill Cody

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 05:26 PM

Curly-leaf pond weed in Indiana normally does not reach the surface in 6ft-7ft of water until sometime in May. However it could by end of March be 2ft tall.
Posted by: Stressless

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 06:02 PM

Put up four new Wood Duck houses and maintained 4 put up last spring - one successful hatch in four houses spring '18 in "Beaver" pond named for obvious reasons.






Great time to get them up.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 06:18 PM

That is "cool"!

wood duck pics
Posted by: Shorty

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 07:01 PM

I checked on the flooding going on, my pond has come up 3 ft in the last two days due to snow melt and rain, it is getting a thorough flushing. Ice was 12-15" thick this last weekend and has done some funky stuff with the water level rise. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the sudden influx of very cold water does not kill a bunch of my redears.
Posted by: C Peasy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 07:28 PM

I also watched the flooding. Pond came up 3 ft from full capacity . The snow blocked/slowed down the overflow . Buddy came over and built a 4ft snow damn and saved my basement. So thankful. 3 plus inches of rain and snow melt in 24 hours has southeastern South Dakota looking like a waterworks. Thankful we got lucky waters are receding now. Praying for others and the farmers that have calfís dropping in this mess
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/14/19 11:01 PM

I tried to run off 2 geese from the pond today, but it didn't work to well. lol! They was there yesterday and I was hoping they were just passing through. When I got there today and they was still there and I seen how much crap was all over the dam already, I knew they had to go. lol! I threw some small rocks at them, and even hit one of them with a small rock, but all he did was flap his wings a few times and went back to eating. lol! I have a full auto BB gun that I plan to take tomorrow. It doesn't have enough power to really hurt them, (and I really don't want to) but I hope it will scare them off. If not I will have to go to plan b. I know they can't stay. I might not care so much, if it wasn't for all the goose crap, but there in no way I want that everywhere.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 06:59 AM

Paint-ball gun?
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 09:18 AM

I have found a shotgun with the shot laid out a few feet in front of them gets the message across.

Some of the geese that are used to being around people in places where they can't run them off such as city park lakes have lost all fear of humans. I reinstill their native good sense.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 09:29 AM

So far the geese have left my pond alone. I hope they never find it. I always thought the trees surrounding it kept them away, as thereís not a long stretch for flying in and out. I thought you had trees around your pond also Bob.
I did have 200 wood ducks on it about a year and a half ago. The amount of crap they left around was amazing. Just coated the dock.
Good luck getting rid of them Bob.
Hey, did you get some of this last rain? Weíve had 6Ē in St Louis already this year. Of course, just half that up at the farm.
Posted by: MWB

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 09:34 AM

Originally Posted By: RAH
Paint-ball gun?


That's what a friend of mine uses for keeping them off of golf course ponds etc. He has a side business doing this. He is also a dog trainer so he was using his labs to chase them off some times, but the only best way is to use paint ball etc.. and harass them early morning or evening especially when they want to rest. Eventually if you keep on them for several days they will seek out a new resting place. Once they hatch a brood you are out of luck. You would have to kill the babies after that time. frown
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 09:43 AM

I had a pair that was bound and determined to have a nest on a tiny 6'x12' island in the middle of my old refurbished pond. I finally raised the dam and overflow level so island turned into an underwater hump. Problem solved. One reason I'll never have another island in a pond.
Posted by: RAH

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 10:41 AM

We have a pair that nest on our island and then immediately take the babies elsewhere. They chase the rest of the geese off during their stay. As a follow-up to the curly-leaf pondweed post, I have this coming up thick in my two shallow 3'-4' duck ponds (which have very clear water right now), but cannot see it in the SMB/YP pond where it was previously pretty thick.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 02:04 PM

I have my fair share of guns (and then some) but not one paint ball gun. lol! There may be one in my future. lol! Maybe I'll go ahead and take a shotgun with me and try that if the machine gun BB gun don't work. What size should I take 410,20 or 12 gauge? lol! If they would go down to my old silted in pond and stay there, I'd leave them alone.

Jeff, I've got about 7" of rain since the first of the year, but that is over 14 rain events. None of them have been over about 1.25" at one time. So still no gully washers for me. The pond is up about 20" since the first of the year. In the past week I've had 3 rains totaling about 2.3". The last one was Wed. night and was only .60", but the ground was already so wet on top and frozen deeper down, that the pond came up 5". I finally had a little water trickling out of the sediment pond yesterday, and still was so I'm hoping it might of came up a little more. In the last week it has came up about 12", but I really didn't have any rain to speak of the 3 weeks before that so it had dropped a few inches. It's probably almost 11' deep now.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/15/19 09:37 PM

Well I didn't see any geese today when I went over, but a GBH flew off when I pulled up, and 2 ducks flew off from the sediment pond when I walked back to it. I just can't win. lol!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 08:59 AM

Just watched a GBH snatch up a big BG or GSF and fly off with it in its mouth. I guess there's a new pond somewhere that needs stocking!!

I hope he doesn't get hold of my little buck LMB. I need him to do his job of raising yungins.
Posted by: snrub

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 09:19 AM

I watched a green heron nearly drop a fingerling BG into another pond. It ended up back in the same pond but had his flight started 30 feet further east, it would have ended up in my nearby sediment pond.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 09:34 AM

I remember you saying that in an earlier post about miraculous conception of fish in ponds!!

He didnt try to eat it here. Actually didnt appear to try to even kill it. Just held it in his beek for a minute or two before he flew off.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 10:41 AM

All I have is FHM for them to eat right now, I'm not sure if those are big enough their trouble? I do hope to start stocking soon. I hope the GBH isn't trying to stock it for me. lol!
I got my first bag of Optimal yesterday to fatten up the FHM and get new stockers off to a good start. I hope I'm not just fattening them up for the GBH. lol!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 11:04 AM

Actually Thursday, but we got our big puddle electroshocked. The goals for this one was a little different than in the past, with RW's, numbers, etc. not important. This one was all about removing male LMB just prior to any possible spawn. We timed it perfectly, as very few of the females had moved shallow yet.

We took out 124.5#'s of hand verified males, with some being close to 3#'s. We did throw one male back that was 3+. It's a tough cull here in Hooterville.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 11:13 AM

Do you think you got all of the males!!?? If you did, that single you put back is gonna be one busy fella!!
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 11:47 AM

Mike, we didn't, but we did hurt them some.

The fun part of culling male LMB for me will come in a few weeks. I've got 6 brush piles placed on historical LMB spawning flats, and it's easy to pull the males out once they're guarding the nests. I just fan cast from the bank while paying close attention to the path of the ned rig I'm throwing. When I get a tick, I know where the male's are protecting the nest because they won't leave the nest to protect it. I just follow up that cast with a wacky worm thrown directly to where I got the tick. They almost always attack a bait dropping into the nest.

All the nests are within 3-5' of the brush piles, and I've seen them reload over the LMB spawning season. Good times.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 01:07 PM

FireIsHot, over 120lbs removed in one swoop! And all males, good start to the season.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 01:42 PM

Al, got to ask. What method did you us to determine males? Squeeze test looking for spurt of fluid, catheter, or sight? I have not fished in awhile but earlier in the yr I was questionable when determining males by sight and up until then I was sure I could tell the difference.
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 02:59 PM

Tracy, no catheter, but yes on the sight and squeeze test. For us, I don't think any visual by itself would have been as accurate a few weeks ago, or a few weeks from now. I was just lucky that the scheduled date, water temps, and weather hit us just right. This was our 4th or 5th shocking, and we've never done it prior to any spawning. We've always had LMB in various stages of the spawn. I would think we'll be where you SE TX/LA guys are in a few weeks.

I did tell Todd's guys exactly what I wanted shocked up before they got started though. It's worth noting I struck out on 10" female CNBG for breeders, <>2# bull CNBG, or possible double digit LMB.

There were a handful of smaller 10-12" LMB that could have been females, but we gave them a quick look, and they were coming out anyway. I was extremely surprised that there were no more than that. What did concern me was that the CNBG that were spit up in the boat tank were all around 2". Just my WAG, but few small LMB, and only undersized regurgitated forage makes me think the bottom of my food chain is still weak, and the larger LMB are cannibalizing their own. Few of the LMB we took out would have hit 100% RW, so I've still got a ways to go.

Even with the condition of the LMB, I still think this might have been the most productive shocking we've ever had, and I'm looking forward to the next month or two. Every male I can pull off a bed is a small victory for the pond and my wallet.

Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/16/19 11:03 PM

The geese came back today, so did the GBH. The GBH took off as soon as he saw me. I ran back home and got the machine gun BB gun, and that did the trick with the geese. It took 150 or so rounds but they took off. I will take it with me for a while to make sure they stay gone.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 01:14 AM

Bobbss, which Optimal blend are you using for forage feed??
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 08:54 AM

Al, when talking weak in the bottom of the food chain, I am thinking most all of us who have bg/lmb ponds(lake in your case) will be what we think of being weak in the two to four inch sized forage is due to the time of year. We are just now coming out of winter where the lmb feed on the bg during the winter and without bg production during the winter that would weaken the forage numbers I would think. My last eshock was done in the month of March and showed to have low numbers in the 2 to 3" bg. But the lmb were for the most part all in the 100 to 120% range. And I know I had a lot of the larger sized bg in the pond at the time.

So here is a question. Bare with me, I have three feeders where I see at least 50 cnbg sized in the 8 to 10" range. These are really nice bg. How many fry will be produced per spawn by these 150 large sized cnbg? And how many will make it the 3 to 4" range? And what about the other bg in the 7" size? They will spawn also? I am hoping these bg will produce my forage and will get my weak back up soon. thoughts?
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 10:57 AM

Tracy, I agree with all that. I just need to get the LMB/CNBG ratio to a sustainable number, whatever that is. I would really like for tilapia and winter rbt to be a treat, and not a necessity.

I'm sure no help on the numbers with BG. Now I'm thinking all the coontail I did have protected the fry, but it made the actual spawning more difficult for them. I never saw the numbers of beds that I had seen in the past. The coontail's pretty much controlled now, so this year could be interesting. I'm getting really, really tired of spending all my pond time spraying weeds, and fishing with small baits to cull LMB all the time.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 11:32 AM

Tracy, according to Lusk only 1/2 % see 1 yoa. That is all fish.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Snipe
Bobbss, which Optimal blend are you using for forage feed??
Snipe, I bought the Starter Feed #4. I called Optimal and told the guy that I had FHM in now and was hoping to start stocking my other fish anytime now and that I may try to stock slightly larger stockers. He said the #4 is no longer slow sinking and is full float now. He said the #4 was probably best for now and then move to the Junior. I wanted to feed the FHM, but also be ready for new stockers. My FHM aren't eating much yet, but they are eating some so I'm feeding a little. I have a few pounds of cheep stuff left from last year that I'm mixing with some of the new to help get them use to the new.
Posted by: Bobbss

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 08:32 PM

The geese came back again today. It didn't take long today, maybe 40 rounds or so and they was in the air. I hope they get the hint soon.lol!
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/17/19 08:45 PM

I finally got off my butt today and built the dock I've been thinking about for the last year and a half. Nothing fancy, but it'll get that cinder block I've been using to keep my paddle wheel pontoon tied off out of my lawnmower's way. [img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/GSGEPpnDY1ZQrkUr5[/img]
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/19 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
I finally got off my butt today and built the dock I've been thinking about for the last year and a half. Nothing fancy, but it'll get that cinder block I've been using to keep my paddle wheel pontoon tied off out of my lawnmower's way. [img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/GSGEPpnDY1ZQrkUr5[/img]


Very nice dock and pontoon.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/19 08:43 PM

Sunday I mounted my solar maintainer/charger for the trolling motor battery, today I put a swivel seat on the minitoon and took it for a quick spin. Lots of turtles out sunning, the air is so thick with the songs of the peepers, you can almost touch the sound. Feeling pretty blessed here in Missouri while praying for so many North of me affected by the devastating floods.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/18/19 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CMM
Originally Posted By: Mike Whatley
I finally got off my butt today and built the dock I've been thinking about for the last year and a half. Nothing fancy, but it'll get that cinder block I've been using to keep my paddle wheel pontoon tied off out of my lawnmower's way. [img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/GSGEPpnDY1ZQrkUr5[/img]


Very nice dock and pontoon.


Thanks. The 'toon is a Michigan transplant we inherited from my in-laws. They're pretty common up there. The dock makes getting off the pontoon soooooo much easier!!

I transplanted a couple of young palmetto plants I found on my property today. They aught to dress up the dock nicely when they get bigger. You can kinda see them on the shoreline corners.
Posted by: SetterGuy

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 08:15 AM

Had grandkids at the farm for the last two days. Caught a lot of YP on Sunday, and lots of HBG on Monday. No change in anything, time of day, bait, depth, etc..
Also saw the tadpoles come to life. No YP ribbons yet. We have green slime algae on the bottom and in the weeds that grew up last summer during the drought. Not liking that too much. Also when netting some tadpoles for my granddaughter I did catch one glass shrimp. Hopefully they will multiply in the weeds, moss, and leaves that are just beneath the surface, almost all the way around the pond.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 02:09 PM

Not Good News:

Overton's Fisheries came out this past Thursday and did an electro-survey. My worst fears were confirmed. The otters and water-turkey birds have eaten about 70% of my fish. Have not seen the report yet, but looking like a near start-over.








On a better note the trail-game my wife game me for Christmas finally got mounted and immediately started showing some animals. First night a raccoon was eating corn all night. Yesterday late afternoon the wild hogs showed up. Pretty neat to be able to watch this from my phone at work in Dallas.











Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 02:37 PM

Sorry to hear bout the otters and cormorants Zep they are murder on fish ... otters are worse I think. How deep is your pond? Shocking only goes about 6í right
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 03:00 PM

Mark, sorry to hear that.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Sorry to hear bout the otters and cormorants Zep they are murder on fish ... otters are worse I think. How deep is your pond? Shocking only goes about 6í right


Pat....at the deepest it's about 17 feet, but most of the deepest is 14 feet, and then of course most of the rest varies between 4-12 feet.

Yes Clint from Overton's said the shocking is mainly effective to about 6-7 feet...so hopefully maybe not as bad as I think....but fishing has been bad for last few months, but it is winter....I dunno

Somebody told me last week two otters can eat at least 15 lbs of fish per week.

The otters may have been in there a few months before we trapped them, then the water turkey arrived.

So now I wonder whether the reflective tape worked since the water-turkey are mainly gone...or heck are they gone because all the fish are gone?

It's a bummer for sure, but as I learn to say as I get older: "it is...what it is"
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Shocking only goes about 6í right

Pat just curious....I realize it would be kind of far-fetched....but if you had an electro-survey being done and there was a beaver or otter in the pond swimming under-water near the boat would it shock them the same way and make them float to top?
Posted by: Bocomo

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 06:24 PM

How big does the gape of a flathead have to be to eat an otter?

laugh
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 06:33 PM

First feeding activity in West Central MO for the year. Nothing yesterday, but quite a few takers today.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 09:12 PM

BG and CC feeding on top again here since Sunday.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/19/19 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Bocomo
How big does the gape of a flathead have to be to eat an otter?

laugh


Probably about 75 to 80 pounds. We need some Wels Catfish to take care of the otters. One 300 pound Wels should take care of a whole otter group. cool
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 02:13 AM

Originally Posted By: John Fitzgerald
Originally Posted By: Bocomo
How big does the gape of a flathead have to be to eat an otter?

laugh


Probably about 75 to 80 pounds. We need some Wels Catfish to take care of the otters. One 300 pound Wels should take care of a whole otter group. cool


All's wels that ends wels! wink
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 02:18 AM

Saw four X$@! cormorants, four geese, one GBH, and one bald eagle. Cormorants let us drive within 20 yards, but when we opened the car doors they flew off.

Frogs singing & chuckling, weeds and algae are growing faster than I anticipated. TP will be needed pretty soon, I think.

Replenished fish food. Funny reaction when testing feeders, though. Not much happens for a couple of minutes, then slow but steady feeding goes on for over an hour. Fish hit it all over as feed drifts in the wind, kinda neat to see it, but obviously BG aren't fully tuned in yet.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 07:37 AM

Zep, I hate if for you but the otters and cormorants did not get all your fish. But, you will need to take action against them. Believe me, I know. It's a never ending battle at my place when it comes to Otters, beavers and cormorants. Hire a trapper if you can't be there. Or set enough traps and check them on the week ends. You are supposed to run traps daily but a man has to do what a man has to do! I keep traps out year round, it's the only way I can keep them out. Yesterday I caught about a dozen cnbg and 3 of them had fresh wounds from cormorants. The battle is ongoing.

And Frank, my cnbg are very active right now, but if I run a test with my TH feeder and it's not at the regular feeding time there will be little action, and if it's a blue bird day it may not be eaten at all.
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 08:18 AM

Tracy, My cnbg are feeding just like yours. Makes me question... do they cruise the pond for food all day? Do they stay in schools? I can't imagine all my thousands of cnbg are all sitting under my 30 ft. pontoon dock all day waiting for the feeder to go off in the AM and PM. but....I rarely catch any in other areas of the pond!! Also, I know I have some big lmb but unlike others ponds I have visited I never see a bass hit on the shoreline. When first stocked and they got about 12 inch long I would see them and actually had one run itself on dry land chasing bait!! But now rarely show any signs of them feeding. They are big so I assume they are just feeding deeper and can't be seen.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 08:35 AM

Flame, like you I have a floating pier and there are always bg near or around or under the pier but I am pretty sure they will seek deeper water when its blue bird day. the feeders concentrate them at lest during feeding times. I am now feeding Purina MVP where different sizes and weights of the feed comes into play. About 50% of that feed sinks and I see the largest cnbg all most never feed on top but feed on the sinking feed targeted about two feet below surface. I am pretty sure the larger lmb do the same and feed a few feet below the surface. But I have to say we are both lmb fisherman and have caught many a lmb on the surface. So are you seeing any lmb reproduction with all your cnbg? For me I had to add additional lmb to the pond to get a spawn. If you don't see any lmb feeding then maybe you might need to add some lmb to the mix to get back to balance or over time you may not have any lmb in the pond. The lmb you pictured awhile back was an outstanding fish and reminded me of what a trophy lmb pond might look like.
Posted by: nehunter

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 09:20 AM

I was feeding my fish last year by hand. When I drove over the damn the fish would start hitting the surface of the water, with no feed put out. When I parked where I feed them they would be a lot of fish hitting the surface. One day my brother and I took his truck to feed. No fish hit the surface till I started walking on the dock and the fish were very slow to start eating. Maybe 2 to 3 min. before the water started to boil. My point is if they can tell a diesel truck from a gas truck driving over a damn they can hear you walking up to your pond from where ever they are in a small pond and be waiting for you to feed. We repeated this a couple times and it was the same results.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 10:17 AM

I usually have a gang sitting at the ready waiting on me every afternoon. But when I ring their dinner bell (pipe drove in the ground) you see wakes coming from across the pond as they race to get there.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 11:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Sorry to hear bout the otters and cormorants Zep they are murder on fish ... otters are worse I think. How deep is your pond? Shocking only goes about 6í right


Pat....at the deepest it's about 17 feet, but most of the deepest is 14 feet, and then of course most of the rest varies between 4-12 feet.

Yes Clint from Overton's said the shocking is mainly effective to about 6-7 feet...so hopefully maybe not as bad as I think....but fishing has been bad for last few months, but it is winter....I dunno

Somebody told me last week two otters can eat at least 15 lbs of fish per week.

The otters may have been in there a few months before we trapped them, then the water turkey arrived.



So now I wonder whether the reflective tape worked since the water-turkey are mainly gone...or heck are they gone because all the fish are gone?

It's a bummer for sure, but as I learn to say as I get older: "it is...what it is"



Zep it may not be as bad as you think with your water depth being what it is .....as spooky as as otters are they probably wouldnít be close to the boat letís hope that your fish were in deeper water during the shocking
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/20/19 12:14 PM

Thanks Tracy and Pat for the advice.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/19 08:56 AM

I walked the shoreline yesterday looking for bedding fish. The lmb continue to move up into the shallows. Males are guarding their nest. One thing I have noticed is most of these males are in the 14 to 15" range. They look larger when I see them with polarized sun glasses. I remove the sun glasses and if I can see them they look smaller without the sun glasses on. A lot of these bass I can not see with out the sun glasses on. I also saw the Osprey again yesterday. It's been awhile since I have seen him so I thought he had left. He was setting in a tree top near the pond. I am not all that crazy about him hanging out because I have seen fly off with some nice sized cnbg in his claws. But hay, it's just another fish eater that hangs out at the pond. I guess I am blessed to see all the nature that hangs around the pond.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/19 04:17 PM

Tracy I also have an osprey taking a few.... but itís better than those dreadful cormorants..... cool to watch him hover then dive in
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/19 04:40 PM

In my opinion Tracy with or without the glasses they always look smaller in the water than what they actually are. If it looks like a 2 pounder it is probably closer to 3. A 3 or 3 1/2 will be darn near 5 when you actually weigh her. Or maybe I have just always sucked at judging fish when sight fishing. Either way in a tournament if it looks like a 2 pounder...I'm going for it because it is probably at least 3. Just my observation. In my pond I still only have 12 inch visibility so probably don't even have to worry about that problem!! One plus to that is the gbh has a hard time seeing my fish on the banks!!
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/19 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: TGW1
Zep, I hate if for you but the otters and cormorants did not get all your fish. But, you will need to take action against them. Believe me, I know. It's a never ending battle at my place when it comes to Otters, beavers and cormorants. Hire a trapper if you can't be there. Or set enough traps and check them on the week ends. You are supposed to run traps daily but a man has to do what a man has to do! I keep traps out year round, it's the only way I can keep them out. Yesterday I caught about a dozen cnbg and 3 of them had fresh wounds from cormorants. The battle is ongoing.

And Frank, my cnbg are very active right now, but if I run a test with my TH feeder and it's not at the regular feeding time there will be little action, and if it's a blue bird day it may not be eaten at all.


Tracy, I see only a few CNBG at the feeders. LMB tend to dominate there, along with an occasional HSB.

Part of the problem are the cormorants, I'm sure. Scary for CNBG to come up near surface.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/21/19 10:32 PM

Speaking of predators, I figure if the koi I put in the older pond make the water muddy, then the GBH and otters cannot see to fish. Those 5 koi sure did muddy up the forage pond last year when I was growing them big enough to escape LMB predation. I saw all 5 of them a couple of times this week, still growing. I'd rather have muddy water than predators and FA.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/22/19 05:40 AM

I noticed my pond was a bit more turbid yesterday. I think my BH may be trying to spawn. Still got over 2 feet of visibility tho.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/22/19 11:39 PM

Two large fat female LMB caught today, around 5 lb each. Also culled 12 that were too small/skinny. Since 1 Oct 18, removed 134 LMB.

Still not seeing CNBG around feeders, nor catching them in shallower water. Water is very clear, at least 5 feet viz. Water temps around 60 to 62 max in afternoon, not enough for CNBG spawning thus far.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/23/19 12:15 PM

I was walking out to the pond this morning, coffee in hand, when I saw the reflection of a bird overhead. I couldn't find it when I looked up at first, then got my eye on him sitting on an oak branch. A big beautiful drake wood duck.

I need a nesting box!!
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/23/19 06:10 PM

Fished some today- used a dark minnow pattern on a 4wt fly rod, landed a 4lb 10oz LM that was 20" and a fat little 11.5" that was almost 15oz. That one got tagged. Also got a mess of blue gill. Color on the bg are very pale from the stained water, but most fish look healthy. Feeding is starting, still a bit slow, but nice to see.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/23/19 08:04 PM

Just caught this BG by accident while trying to catch a shiner. Snagged it in the chest.

I'm trying to get better at sexing these fish to better manage my harvesting plan of removing all females and returning every Male over 5".

I am posting two pics. 1st is my fish. Second is a comparison chart I found on line. The chart shows males on the left, ladies on the right. Part of me says male, part say female. I'm going with female.

What y'all say?
[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/fdb7gJubht4DWizz9[/img]

[img]https://photos.app.goo.gl/R382dQnAezzoh5Sd9[/img]
Posted by: Bill Cody

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/23/19 09:08 PM

Mike - I think your pictured BG is a male and is currently lacking the intense spawning colors. Your pictured BG has a darkish gular(throat) area and an ear tab that resembles that of many male BG. Similar sized female BG from your pond should currently have a noticeably lighter gular area. Similar sized male BG in your pond should develop darker colors in about a month pre to post spawn. The gular area will darken and female gular area should be lighter hues and likely more toward yellow. BG body features can vary quite a bit in different areas of the country and depending on the genetic strain of BG. Note some of the variation in the comparison chart.

Your picture would be somewhat better for sex identification if it was taken more straight from the side of the fish to better show shape of the ear tab (opercular flap). The pictures in the comparison chart were taken by me for the article Growing Behemoth Bluegills In Small Ponds Parts 1,2,3 by Cody, Condello and Baird; Pond Boss Magazine 2006.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/23/19 09:18 PM

You see! My initial thought was Male, because of the color, but the narrowness of the ear tab made me second guess. Yall did fine work with that comparative article. I was using it, and will continue to, to help me in the future.

So from now till fall, I should expect females to be a lighter color, short rounded opercule, while males will be typically darker and more vibrant, the opercule will be longer, but not necessarily wider or squared off, like this one was...yes?
Posted by: Flame

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/24/19 08:39 AM

Come on CMM Ya'll post my pics. We would love to see pics of the ones your catching!! Sounds like yours are growing VERY well!!
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/27/19 08:46 AM

I'm in the process of moving my feeding times at the pond. It's easy to do with the TH feeders but I don't have a feeder that will throw the Aquamax lmb feed. So I hand feed the HSB and the Northern feed trained LMB. While I am going through this process I sat on the pier and watched the feeders go off. I saw TFS show up and was happy to see that. I made another year with my TFS survival. These TFS were in the 1 1/2" to 2" sized fish and there were two schools of 50 or so. I was also pleased to see some inch and a half to 3" cnbg along the shoreline near one of the feeders and the pier. And as I sat there I wondered when were these small cnbg spawned? Can't be that long ago if I am seeing 1 to 2" cnbg. I was also pleased to see all sizes of cnbg.
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/27/19 12:10 PM

Hey QA, I've been watching swarms of 1" BG all winter. They had to be a late hatch and the cooler temps just slowed down their growth. That's the only logic I can assign to it. I've got GSF on bed, but have yet to see any BG try to start, tho these bright days sure to bring them to the shallows.
Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/28/19 07:28 PM

Went fishing and caught 6 bg on Stubby Steveís. First time this year
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/30/19 08:35 AM

Had a pleasant surprise... my son in law did the google maps thing on the pond since they finally updated (from 2014!) and my pond isnít 5 acres but 6.1! Nice
Posted by: Mike Whatley

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/30/19 10:16 AM

I need to look at Google maps again! I still think my pond is bigger than .10!

I took some readings on the pond this morning. Surface temp is 70* and bottom temp at 10' is 64*. I'm happy to see that there's still a tight variance in temps. Ph measures 7.2, Alk 40ppm, and surprisingly, my hardness has increased to 40ppm as well. REALLY happy to see that!!

Gonna check the Ph again this evening to see how big the swing is.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/30/19 01:29 PM

Went fishing for BCP after hearing that they had moved up to shallow, they were in 3í water and the males are black black. Ugh getting cold again so guess that will probably mess up the spawn
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/30/19 02:10 PM

This part of the country is subject to wild temperature swings in March and early April. Seems spawns get messed up more often than not, but they still manage to happen.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/30/19 03:55 PM

John so far have had one spawn in 5 years..... not too good a track record....
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/31/19 12:19 AM

CNBG have finally moved in shallow water the last couple of days, but I expect them to back off during the next few cold snap days. Female LMB are absolutely bursting with eggs & look very healthy.

Last fall our biggest LMB was 3.9 lb. So far this year we've caught numerous 4 to 5 lb fish, good growth. Almost all 14 plus inch LMB are very heavy for their length & look healthy.

Since Oct 2018 I've harvested 171 LMB < 14 inches. Still have at least 80 more to go.

Put in 3 CNBG to forage pond, need 3 or 4 more to ensure both sexes are there. Plan on adding TFS, TP to main BOW in a couple of weeks.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/31/19 10:29 AM

Looks like youíre moving in the right direction.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/31/19 11:18 AM

We had 60's to low 70s for 5 days, and then it was 25 this morning with heavy frost, as fruit trees are blooming. Supposed to be same low tonight, but I won't be surprised if it's even colder.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/31/19 11:58 AM

Crazy weather this year for sure
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 03/31/19 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Looks like youíre moving in the right direction.


Thanks. Been a long haul after stumbling start, but we're slowly getting there.
Posted by: Snipe

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Pat Williamson
Went fishing for BCP after hearing that they had moved up to shallow, they were in 3í water and the males are black black. Ugh getting cold again so guess that will probably mess up the spawn

Pat, I've found when this happens, move out to the first visible drop, somewhere in the 9-12' range. They "want" to move shallow but when weather turns them out I've found BIG crappie many times set on that hip of the secondary drop.
Posted by: Pat Williamson

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 04:26 AM

Got up to get a drink of water and the outside temp is 32..... the hickory and pecans have budded out..... they are hardly ever fooled....
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 10:36 AM

25.5 degrees here this morning. Another heavy frost.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 12:39 PM

Seeing lots of greenery, flowers, algae, and hungry hogs at the property this past weekend.

Put out some Cutrine Plus and took some good walks in the woods.

And I guess we have a canadian geese nest too



















Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 12:56 PM

Yesterday, I found a goose nest. I have been running this pair off for 7 years now... I am tired, they can raise the damn goslings. Besides, I found a (deleted for the PG forum) otter. Then I found out the sight on my rifle has been bumped at some point. So, tonight, get the .22 sighted in again, and have a nice sit by the pond, looking for some really cute, really destructive water mammals.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 02:20 PM

CMM, if it is legal where you are, egg addling is recommended. At least you won't get more goslings coming back next year.
Posted by: Quarter Acre

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 03:01 PM

After seeing all the threads on destructive critters at the ponds, I feel very lucky so far not to have to worry with anything more than the occasional Blue and Green Herons. There are Canada Geese in the area, but I never see them at my pond and I think I am too far from a constant running creek or stream to fret the otters too, much.

You watch, now that I have bragged on my luck, I'll be singing the blues with the best of them.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 03:05 PM

Ha Ha...CMM.

I saw the daddy Canadian Goose run off a large white heron yesterday...
basically followed the heron down the shoreline angry squawking.

Be careful with those otters....3 river otters basically devastated my fish population this winter.

Look what just arrived while I was out for lunch today...look out algae!

Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 06:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Ha Ha...CMM.

I saw the daddy Canadian Goose run off a large white heron yesterday...
basically followed the heron down the shoreline angry squawking.

Be careful with those otters....3 river otters basically devastated my fish population this winter.

Look what just arrived while I was out for lunch today...look out algae!



Have you ever tried tilapia for the algae? I've had good results with them.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 09:10 PM

Would love to try tilapia. Main issue is the legality in Missouri. Big no no here. Also, with 4 acres, the cost would be out of my budget for any meaningful control.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: anthropic
Have you ever tried tilapia for the algae? I've had good results with them.


Yes Sir. I have purchased Overton's Tilapia the last several years.

Last year I upped the lbs per acre & they seemed very effective last year.

Overton's has me on the schedule for Tilapia on April 19th.

One of my smaller ponds I would guess is over half covered by FA already.
Posted by: CMM

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/01/19 09:16 PM

QA, I am not close to a permanent running creek either. I surely hope you never have to mess with the otter. I don't know what they have done to my fish population, I hope not to much damage. Rifle is close to zero, fine tuning tomorrow as I ran out of light tonight. I may have to overcome my fear of body traps. I really like my fingers, fishing would be tough with them all broken.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/19 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: CMM
Would love to try tilapia. Main issue is the legality in Missouri. Big no no here. Also, with 4 acres, the cost would be out of my budget for any meaningful control.


I understand budget constraints only too well. But why in the world would Missouri ban tilapia while Texas allows them? No way they could survive a Missouri winter! confused
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/19 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: CMM
QA, I am not close to a permanent running creek either. I surely hope you never have to mess with the otter. I don't know what they have done to my fish population, I hope not to much damage. Rifle is close to zero, fine tuning tomorrow as I ran out of light tonight. I may have to overcome my fear of body traps. I really like my fingers, fishing would be tough with them all broken.


Over the past 4 yrs I have had to deal with River Otters. I have lost count on how many I have trapped out of the pond at different times. If you see one then look for 4. They seem to run in groups of 4 and may take a couple of weeks to trap the 4 out. For me I have never had an opportunity to shoot an Otter and I most always have a shotgun or riffle with me. I can set till dark or set for a long morning and I have only seen one and then I saw it for just a second before it dove under the water. And don't worry about your fingers when using a Conibar 330 trap. You need to worry about a broken arm or leg. No need to be scared of the trap but need to respect it and watch where you have your feet placed so no slip and fall into the trap.

I will take a goose anytime over a cormorant. I had 15 at the pond around noon yesterday. I am in the process of discouraging their return.
Posted by: John Fitzgerald

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/19 09:47 AM

Otters and herons devastated me so much I gave up. Let nature take its course. The ponds will do what they will do. I will mow and feed occasionally.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/02/19 09:58 AM

Tracy I too need to learn how to set a Conibar 330....and I have trouble putting gas in my SUV....so it might take me awhile to learn....but the devastation the otters did this year has me motivated to learn. I think my trapper will be nice enough to give me a lesson or two.

Here is one of them that ate all my fish....son-of-gun needs to head to Long John Silvers next time!

Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 08:07 AM

Zep, it's not hard to learn on how and where to set the traps. Brian (Highflyer) taught me. At the time I never realized I would have to keep traps running year round. And how much that info would come into play at my place. When you buy your 330 traps be sure to buy the piece that helps to set the trap. Can't recall what the piece is called but it is shaped like a large pair of scissors with out the cutting edge. A cheater so to speak. Another thing is I always add some brush or limbs that might detour a horse, deer, cow or dog from taking the path to the trap. Something that and otter can go under without restriction but might stop a larger animal from taking the same path. I am not sure it really works but makes me feel a little better and I have not trapped any larger animals yet with this method.

So, while at the pond yesterday, I ran off Cormorants and I killed my first snake. I suspect it was a water snake but not sure because It change color from the first time I saw it. First time it looked like a copperhead might but the second time I saw it was almost black as it was sunning itself. For me, snakes at the pond are like Otters and Cormorants, I hate em!
Posted by: wannapond0001

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 12:31 PM

Snakes are a good thing. It's no wonder there are any animals left in this world. All the senseless killings...
Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 02:46 PM

Mark, look up Coon Creek Locking Trap Setting Tongs. I bought a pair to lock the conibear while I set it.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Mark, look up Coon Creek Locking Trap Setting Tongs. I bought a pair to lock the conibear while I set it.


Ok Al thanks....I see this:

Coon Creek Locking



Posted by: Augie

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 03:32 PM

Unloaded the dock floats that I dragged home over the weekend.

Posted by: FireIsHot

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/03/19 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Zep
Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
Mark, look up Coon Creek Locking Trap Setting Tongs. I bought a pair to lock the conibear while I set it.


Ok Al thanks....I see this:

Coon Creek Locking




That's it. I use it to compress the springs, then once they're latched, I move it to the actual trap part. It's nice having a locked trap set while I'm getting everything ready.
Posted by: anthropic

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 03:22 AM

Placed 50 lb of fertilizer in pond today. That's on the heavy side for my size BOW, but I've learned that even after liming, it takes a lot to get a decent bloom.

Also added 2 male CNBG in forage pond after previously depositing 3 females. Hopefully they'll spawn successfully in a couple of weeks.

No cormorants seen today! Still have GBH and a couple of geese, but they are far better than cormorants.
Posted by: TGW1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 06:58 AM

Originally Posted By: wannapond0001
Snakes are a good thing. It's no wonder there are any animals left in this world. All the senseless killings...


Its part of life here in Texas, we have snake hunts in some areas of Texas along with hunting season for other animals to control numbers.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 10:45 AM

Tracy....I grew up in Texas and was a Boy Scout on a lot of camp-outs and summer camps, did a lot of camping with my older brother, been fishing and around lakes and in the woods all my life and I have never seen a rattle snake in the wild. Seen lots of copperheads and cottonmouth...but never a live rattlesnake. Also have never seen a coral snake in Texas.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: FireIsHot
That's it. I use it to compress the springs, then once they're latched, I move it to the actual trap part. It's nice having a locked trap set while I'm getting everything ready.

Al do you think a live trap like a HavaHart could work on an otter?

One fear with a live trap is with my luck a skunk would get in the trap.

Not sure what you do when a skunk is in a live trap.

Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 11:13 AM

Down here we have lots of copperheads, sometimes see several within a few minutes on the trails at East End Park in Kingwood. Also water moccasins. If you spend a lot of time in the woods you'll spot a coral snake. They like to hang out under the pine needles and leaves. Neighbors have been bitten by timber rattlers here, I have yet to see one.

So far I was bit once by a western diamondback near Austin and a Water Moccasin near the San Jacinto river. Both were in tall grass.

I'd like to avoid being bit again.

Having said that I generally tolerate snakes as long as they are not around the house. I've haven't killed any yet. I'm also careful to identify them before bothering them. Hognose snakes and water snakes look scary but really aren't.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Vortex 4
So far I was bit once by......Water Moccasin near the San Jacinto river. Both were in tall grass.


Vortex...what was that like getting bit by a Water Moccasin?

Was the Water Moccasin grass on the edge of water?
Did you have to spend the night(s) in a hospital?
Get pretty sick?
Painful?
Posted by: Vortex 4

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 12:46 PM

The water mocassin was nothing at first. I was running in tall grass near a creek and it felt like my foot had hooked over a garden hose. I shook it off and forgot about it. It bit me on the calf. A few hours later my dog bumped my leg and OUCH! It was a big egg on my leg that hurt like the Dickens. Then blood started pooling in my foot and up my leg. I took a benadryl. It was better in a few days. Took a few weeks for the bruising to clear up. Copperheads and water moccasins are really not bad. The vet tells me if the dog gets bit, just give her a benadryl.

The rattlesnake was different. It felt like a sledgehammer when it struck. It hit my ankle. Swelled up my leg and made me sick. Three days later a broken fang worked its way out of my skin. Took a few years for the scars from the fangs to fade. I did not get treated.
Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 01:55 PM

wow Vortex you are a trooper....I think I'd freak if either one bit me

i have these boots from Bass Pro that I tend to roam around in during snake months...

they are not actually snake boots, but I think the fangs would not hit my skin in most cases...because there is some empty space between boot wall and my skin

interesting where your bites occurred...i think my boots would be effective in those areas of the leg

coral snakes bites are probably even lower on the leg since they are usually small



I've heard if you get bit in the neck...it could be all she wrote

Posted by: Zep

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 02:01 PM

Vortex I read this:

Statistically, about 48,000 people a year bitten in the United States. Of these, about 8,000 are from poisonous snakes and an average of 10 people a year die because they are cared for improperly.

Worldwide, about 40% of the time people are bitten by poisonous snakes no venom passes.

85% of the time only enough venom passes to make the victim sick.

15% require critical care in the acute phase of the poisoning

In the Florida series, about 10 people per year were bitten by a cottonmouth while reaching over the side of a boat to pull up a string of fish. Cottonmouths inflict most of their bite under the water, on top of the water, or near the water.

The height of snake season is between April and October, peaking between July and August.

Snakes are generally less active at temperatures less than 50-60 degrees, or greater than 80 degrees.

70-77% of all bites occur between 9:00 AM and 9:00 PM, peaking between 3:00 PM and 6:00 PM.

Anatomically 60% of all bites occur to the lower extremity 38% to the upper extremity, and 2% to unidentified sites.

The cardinal signs and symptoms of pit viper envenomation include: burning pain (the commonest, earliest sign), puncture wound (50% of the time accompanied by a bloody ooze), swelling, skin discoloration, nausea and vomiting, minty, metallic, rubbery taste in the mouth, sweating, chills, numbness and tingling of the mouth, face, scalp, and wound site, ecchymosis and production of blebs and blisters, erythema and edema progressing from the wound site, weakness, vertigo, haematemesis epistaxis, muscle fasiculations, paralysis, shock, convulsions, loss of sphincter control, melena haematuria, and renal shutdown. Envenomation may include some or all of these symptoms, depending on the severity of envenomation.

Death can occur up to several days following the bite, or in as little as two hours.

In pit viper envenomation the average death occurs in two days.

If the bite is inflicted in an artery, vein, lymphatics, or a nerve, death will occur in 30 seconds to 10 minutes. shocked

If the victim does not die within the first 10 to 30 minutes, you have excess of 12 hours to get to proper medical help; in most cases, severe complications or death will not occur if proper medical protocol is followed.

Maynard recommends the following:

A. Do not apply a tourniquet !
B. Do not cut and suck !
C. Do not apply ice !

Posted by: Dave Davidson1

Re: What did you do at your pond today? - 04/04/19 03:58 PM

I saw something on the Texas Hunting Forum about the cost of