Pond Boss
Posted By: Work n Grind Shoreline cedars - 11/16/21 02:51 PM
I’m in zone 6 want to stop the steep banks on my pond from further erosion.

Will cedars works well?

What types of cedars?

Is there a better option?

Thanks,
Work n Grind
Posted By: ewest Re: Shoreline cedars - 11/16/21 03:37 PM
What about ground covers to start.
Posted By: Work n Grind Re: Shoreline cedars - 11/16/21 03:46 PM
There are tons of lillies and grasses I need something more substantial I think, I am also trying to deal with muskrat dens! Pond is 60 years old and was not taken care of for the last 20 if I had to guess.
Posted By: esshup Re: Shoreline cedars - 11/16/21 06:23 PM
Nothing will help the muskrats with the exception of high speed lead, Conibear 110's and possibly #1 Longspring traps. For something quick, put down erosion mats made from natural materials. Now going into winter you won't be able to get much of anything to grow. ANY trees planted have to be kept away from the dam so the roots don't compromise the structural integrity of the dam.

Trees will limit fishing, and reduce the amount of wind on the pond. Wind helps create waves which helps to aerate the pond.
Posted By: liquidsquid Re: Shoreline cedars - 11/16/21 08:57 PM
I have seen other solutions to muskrats by laying down galvanized metal fencing along the shoreline and below, then rip-rap and small gravel on top of that to cover up the fencing and hold it down. I don't know how deep below the shoreline the little buggers will dig but you have to go at least that deep.

To help reduce their numbers, get rid of their favorite food: Cattails and other vegetation they like to eat. Also, a mink or two will do a fine job of emptying out muskrat dens.

For erosion control, the above post using natual erosion mats until the season is better for seeding some ground cover. No trees or you will regret it. Besides root penetration through the dam, they are also prone to consume water, and put leaves and needles into the water, thereby aging the pond faster.
Posted By: esshup Re: Shoreline cedars - 11/17/21 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by liquidsquid
I have seen other solutions to muskrats by laying down galvanized metal fencing along the shoreline and below, then rip-rap and small gravel on top of that to cover up the fencing and hold it down. I don't know how deep below the shoreline the little buggers will dig but you have to go at least that deep.

To help reduce their numbers, get rid of their favorite food: Cattails and other vegetation they like to eat. Also, a mink or two will do a fine job of emptying out muskrat dens.

For erosion control, the above post using natual erosion mats until the season is better for seeding some ground cover. No trees or you will regret it. Besides root penetration through the dam, they are also prone to consume water, and put leaves and needles into the water, thereby aging the pond faster.


Also muskrats love to tunnel among the tree roots, they cut the roots when they are digging and get a more stable home that way that is less prone to collapse.

They have a hard time understanding that they have to tunnel in from more than 24"-36" water depth. Beavers on the other hand have been known to start their run at more than 48" below the surface. I've gone over my chest waders when stepping in an unknown beaver run. Not a fun thing to do in November!!!
© Pond Boss Forum