rusting standpipe - 07/27/16 07:58 PM
I joined this forum today because I need some serious advice on my pond problem. The ~44yo metal standpipe in my pond is at the end of its life. I've suspected a leak in the vertical section for a few months. Today I had a sewer guy run his camera down and he discovered 1" hole that's about 6ft below the surface. The current water level is about 4ft below top of pipe - partly from leak and also from our drought.
I've read plenty about temporary fixes such as patches and pipe liners, but the reality is this pipe shouldn't be my longterm plan. It seems to me it either needs to be decommissioned or dug out. And of course I need a new drainage system.
Digging out this pipe, of course, requires draining the pond (the pipe base is at the deepest part of this pond). Aside from the anguish of draining a pond that has tremendous fish habitat already, I think there are significant reasons why it might be better to decommission it rater than draining pond and digging it out. Even though the pond is down quite a bit, the vertical pipe is 22ft high and water depth around it is probably ~15ft still. That's a lot of draining to do.... But the even bigger issue is the total height of this dam (the exit of horizontal is lower still) is at least 30ft and the dam itself is my driveway. So digging out that pipe would take some serious excavation. And that doesn't even address the issue of putting the dam/driveway back together with necessary integrity. My excavator said - I can do it and would enjoy using my machines, but it really shouldn't be done.
Therein lies my question: How To Decommission A Pipe like mine.
I am far less worried about establishing the new drainage system than managing this current "end-of-life" standpipe. The horizontal section is definitely longer than the vertical, although I'm not entirely certain just how long.
Could folks tell me their experiences with decommissioning pipes like this and how it is best done? Obviously the pressures that deep are something to be reckoned with. And there are probably a lot of factors I haven't thought about. I am not a pond expert or engineer.
I greatly appreciate any advice.
Vic
I've read plenty about temporary fixes such as patches and pipe liners, but the reality is this pipe shouldn't be my longterm plan. It seems to me it either needs to be decommissioned or dug out. And of course I need a new drainage system.
Digging out this pipe, of course, requires draining the pond (the pipe base is at the deepest part of this pond). Aside from the anguish of draining a pond that has tremendous fish habitat already, I think there are significant reasons why it might be better to decommission it rater than draining pond and digging it out. Even though the pond is down quite a bit, the vertical pipe is 22ft high and water depth around it is probably ~15ft still. That's a lot of draining to do.... But the even bigger issue is the total height of this dam (the exit of horizontal is lower still) is at least 30ft and the dam itself is my driveway. So digging out that pipe would take some serious excavation. And that doesn't even address the issue of putting the dam/driveway back together with necessary integrity. My excavator said - I can do it and would enjoy using my machines, but it really shouldn't be done.
Therein lies my question: How To Decommission A Pipe like mine.
I am far less worried about establishing the new drainage system than managing this current "end-of-life" standpipe. The horizontal section is definitely longer than the vertical, although I'm not entirely certain just how long.
Could folks tell me their experiences with decommissioning pipes like this and how it is best done? Obviously the pressures that deep are something to be reckoned with. And there are probably a lot of factors I haven't thought about. I am not a pond expert or engineer.
I greatly appreciate any advice.
Vic