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Posted By: JKB What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 09:38 PM
This was from a bit back and I just ran across the pictures on a portable HD. Cat or Bear? We have both. Maybe another?





Posted By: Bob-O Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 09:49 PM
My guess is a toothpick company.
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 10:03 PM
Originally Posted By: Bob-O
My guess is a toothpick company.


They wouldn't waste so much wink
Posted By: Sunil Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 10:12 PM
Was the rest of the tree around?

Beaver??
Posted By: Bob-O Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 10:28 PM
Probably right.
Posted By: sprkplug Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 10:35 PM
I don't know what did that, but whatever it was I don't want to meet up with it when it's having a bad day.

Any prints or hair/fur?
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 10:52 PM
It was a small round tree, and I don't think we have the critter type beavers (that's for Bob-O) in the area. It would be a hike for them from the Muskegon River.

My uneducated guess is it's a critter doing some claw work? Don't know, but the pics were taken later after I spilled coffee all over myself early that morning when something jumped out of a tree and I was feeling my way to my truck in pitch darkness.

Do your best guess, because I sure don't know.
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/19/14 11:29 PM
Originally Posted By: sprkplug
I don't know what did that, but whatever it was I don't want to meet up with it when it's having a bad day.

Any prints or hair/fur?


There was some poo and thought I had a pic, but not.

My best uneducated guess is it's a Cougar (Mountain Lion), a cat clawing stuff to sharpen up.

We do have black bear in the area and have seen foot prints recently, but not sure they would shred a tree to a nub.

I don't want to meet up with either!
Posted By: Rainman Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 02:21 AM
Groundhog coming out from hibernation?
Posted By: Bob-O Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 02:30 AM
"Groundhog coming out from hibernation?" Don't mention the G word or Condello will be all over this post.
As for the poo on the ground, If something jumped out of a tree near me and sounded any bigger than a tree rat, the poo would be mine!
Posted By: esshup Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 05:06 AM
Lets see...........

Tree is about 6" diameter? Soft punky wood, probably with bugs in it.

I'm thinking Flicker or Woodpecker, although it's low to the ground. Whitetail bucks should be starting to shed their velvet too about this time, but I don't think they'd make small pieces like that, but it's also possibility.
Posted By: DonoBBD Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 11:33 AM
Originally Posted By: esshup
Lets see...........

Tree is about 6" diameter? Soft punky wood, probably with bugs in it.

I'm thinking Flicker or Woodpecker, although it's low to the ground. Whitetail bucks should be starting to shed their velvet too about this time, but I don't think they'd make small pieces like that, but it's also possibility.


Ya I was thinking the same thing the big pileated woodpecker.

They can pull toothpicks like that in minutes if there is bugs in there. Look soft and punky.

Cheers Don.
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 12:26 PM
The tree was standing the day before the pic. The top of the tree was missing due to whatever reason. The rest of the tree is laying on the ground next to it. It's only maybe 100' from my camper. I noticed it was down the next morning, that's when I went to check it out later after I got back.

We do have woodpeckers, but never seen this before.

Posted By: Brettski Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 01:19 PM
I've watched a Pileated excavate a hole into a mature maple tree to create a nest. This is exactly what the shavings look like as they were discharged from the hole. As the shavings are peeled off, they were carried to the opening and dropped out to fall the 25 feet to the ground below.
It happened at our old river place. When I first arrived, I walked down to the river and stopped at a maple tree that had this curious carpet of wood chips and shavings surrounding it. I stood there, dumbfounded, and trying to figure out what the heck happened. Then one landed on my head and I looked up. Woody was looking down at me, cocking his head left and right, likely trying to decide if I was there to help excavate or clean up.
Posted By: esshup Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 01:33 PM
Originally Posted By: JKB
The tree was standing the day before the pic. The top of the tree was missing due to whatever reason. The rest of the tree is laying on the ground next to it. It's only maybe 100' from my camper. I noticed it was down the next morning, that's when I went to check it out later after I got back.

We do have woodpeckers, but never seen this before.



If it was done at night, I'd suspect a skunk was digging in the bark for the bugs/grubs, being so low to the ground. If it was clost to the camper, it's a good thing that it didn't fall on whatever critter did it, especially a skunk!

But like the others, I have seen shavings look like this from other trees and you can see where birds were looking for insects/grubs.
Posted By: Sunil Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 01:51 PM
I agree that the 'shavings' look like the work of a Pileated WP, but I've never seen them fell a tree before.
Posted By: RC51 Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 02:49 PM
If that's a PWP that's one BA WP! I have them also and I have never seen them drop a tree even dead. And have never seem them below 10 or 15 feet let alone 6 inches offf the ground?

That's a cat I bet if you have cats. Bobcat, or something! You need to put up a game camera around there see if you get any pics on it! Would be interesting to see if you get anything.

RC
Posted By: Sunil Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 03:45 PM
RC, I've seen PWP's as low as 2-3' off the ground working a stump. Not often, but a few times.

Love those birds!
Posted By: esshup Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 06:54 PM
One whittled on a dead sassafras tree so much that it broke about 15' off of the ground where it was working the hardest.
Posted By: catmandoo Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 11:05 PM
I too think it was the work of a pileated woodpecker.

But, could it have been one of TeehJaeh's friends????

Posted By: Lovnlivin Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/20/14 11:50 PM
I've never heard of a Pileated Woodpecker and it doesn't appear we have them here in Nebraska, but here's what I found on Google and it sure looks similar to what you have!

Posted By: esshup Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 12:17 AM




Adults are 40 to 49 cm (16 to 19 in) long, span 66 to 75 cm (26 to 30 in) across the wings and weigh 250 to 400 g (8.8 to 14.1 oz), with an average weight of 300 g (11 oz). Each wing measures 21.4 to 25.3 cm (8.4 to 10.0 in), the tail measures 14 to 17.4 cm (5.5 to 6.9 in), the bill is 4.1–6 cm (1.6–2.4 in) and the tarsus measures 3.1–3.8 cm (1.2–1.5 in).

They are a big bird, not to be confused with any other woodpecker that is alive in the USA today.
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 12:49 AM
Originally Posted By: catmandoo
I too think it was the work of a pileated woodpecker.

But, could it have been one of TeehJaeh's friends????



Last September there was a Sasquatch sighting in the area.
Posted By: DNickolaus Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 01:54 AM
In my front yard. They were a foot long or so. These were courting I think.. lots of prancing around the trunk and no whacking. Might have been two males prancing for a lady nearby as we saw a flash of another also.

Posted By: RC51 Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 01:52 PM
Yeah you DONT want them suckers tapping on the roof of your house!! LOL! Sounds like a AK47 going off!!! smile

RC
Posted By: troutmaster Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 02:13 PM
I have one that bangs on the brick chimney. I don't understand how it doesn't have brain damage.
Posted By: canyoncreek Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 02:14 PM
The one I have by my house seems to tap tap tap in a much slower cadence than the other woodpeckers. IT is as if they need a bit more time to get the head back and forth.

The funniest thing by me though is that the one by my house seems to like to sit on top of the high voltage lines metal towers. There must be a rust hole or something on a flat survace on the very top as he is up there pounding away on the metal structure. It is the most amazing sound as it sounds like the whole woods is echoing with a metallic pounding noise as if someone is taking a jack hammer to metal dumpster. he/she is up there about once a week hammering a way and i can't help but smile as I'm not sure i understand how that behavior helps except to get a bad headache...

I tried to get a recording of the sound on my phone but it didn't turn out very clear.
Posted By: fish n chips Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 03:37 PM
Canyon, When they do that, it's probably for the reason of drumming. The more/louder the sound they make, the more they feel it attracts a mate.... we see that behavior among people too.
Posted By: esshup Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 04:06 PM
They also use the noise as a territorial marker. Louder = bigger bird? Sort of a "stay away, this is my area" to other males.
Posted By: Sunil Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 04:21 PM
Unless you see the PWP banging on your roof or gutter, or whatever, sometimes, it's a smaller WP, and not the Pileated.
Posted By: Bob-O Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 05:15 PM
CC maybe he's trying to start a steel drum circle.
JKB, I was camping near Grand Haven last Sept
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/21/14 09:05 PM
Pretty convinced now it was a PWP. Talked to my brother last night and asked him to look it up. He said they are around once in a while. I've never seen one tho.

Bob-O, this was in Fremont where my property is. Grand Haven is where everyone from Florida moves to during the summer months. You could probably see a Sasquatch or two at any given time on the beach. laugh
Posted By: Bob-O Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/22/14 04:05 PM
I love that beach, that's why I camp nearby. If I can lure one to camp, there may evolve a new species. Bob-Osquach. Stay tuned for details.
Posted By: JKB Re: What critter do you think did this? - 08/22/14 11:21 PM
Where are you camping? Next time you are up here, let me know.
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