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Posted By: Cecil Baird1 May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/10/10 10:36 PM
Not sure if I'll be selected but I've never done it before. Anyone else do it, and what was your experience?
Posted By: Cisco Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/10/10 11:30 PM
My first experience with it was right after I turned 18 and started voting. I'm a machinist and it seems a machine shop had burned. Twice. The owner had three different insurance policys or at least three different insurance companies were involved. The 4 attorneys(three were together against his) would get into an argument and the judge would dismiss the jury, we would return to court for about 15 minutes and then they'd argue again and we's go back to the jury room again. It went on for 2 1/2 weeks. Good thing was the balif was a lady and brought cookies, cakes, pies, etc! The shop owner was trying to get paid for machines from the SECOND fire that were still out being rebuilt from the first fire. What a scam but I did find out about how the justice system worked and about how it was suppose to work. All in all, I thought it was a good expierence. I been back to jury duty many more times and only picked one other time.
Sorry for a long story Cecil but you asked!!
Posted By: JKB Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/10/10 11:39 PM
I got a letter once, back in the early 90's to set up an interview for jury duty. I waited till the very last moment to call them and they politely said something like Thank you for responding, If we need you, we will be in contact. Something like that... Never heard from them again.
Posted By: Omaha Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/10/10 11:45 PM
JKB's experience was mine as well. And I was looking forward to it. frown
Posted By: Cisco Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/10/10 11:52 PM
Here in Dallas, you have to go in and sit until they call you to be interviewed for the trial. If either side has a problem with you, you go home. I always wanted to get picked though.
Posted By: Zep Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 12:20 AM
I've been called several times but never served up until this past June when I served on a ridiculous DUI case in Collin County just north of Dallas. The guy was tested at the Police Station and shown over twice the legal limit, he failed the field sobriety test we watched from the dashcam, a witness saw him sideswipe the highway divider and his car showed damage, the witness also observed him going an estimated 90 mph before pulling off on the exit ramp at 3AM....and the dude marches into the courtroom with his court appointed interpreter and court appointed attorney and pleads innocent. The non-stop interpreting was an annoyance but did not effect our fairness. His court appointed lawyer claims the test machine at the police station "must have malfunctioned". We find out after the case this was his 2nd DUI arrest. They were not allowed to tell us that during the trial. We wasted 2 full days in the courtroom and found him guilty....it should have been a 1/2 day trial. Waste of taxpayer money and time. Afterwards I check the court website and it showed that he had already filed an appeal to our conviction. frown

ps: Many courts now have an online system where you check in the night before
and at that point they tell you if they even need you to show up the next morning.
Posted By: esshup Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 02:05 AM
Cecil, regular or Grand Jury?
I've never served but have been called various times. When hey find out that my Wife is a Litigation paralegal I never get picked.
Posted By: RAH Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 09:48 AM
I seved once. If I am ever brought up on charges; if I am innocent, I want a judge-only trial, if I a guilty, I want a jury trial. I was amazed at the level of logic skills present in the average person selected for a jury. Wow!
Posted By: Bossone Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 01:25 PM
I've served twice in the last 10 years. The first time was a DUI on an evening where we had 21 inches of snow (a record for us) and on the surface you would of concluded he was guilty, but after hearing the case against him and understanding the letter of the law and what "beyond a reasonable doubt was, he was found innocent.

My second time was a murder trial that involved gangs and bunch of kids at a party. It is amazing to really understand what goes on in our society. 10 bottles of hard liquor was stolen by a 15 yo and was consumed at the party that evening. Each day there were 5-7 deputies watching over things and then the evening we came to the verdict, there were over twenty officers guarding us and escorting us out of the court house via a back entrance. That was a bit unnerving and I made sure each night I wasn't followed. There was no doubt of his guilt but we had to determine whether it was first or second degree murder and after 4 hours we found him guilty of first degree. It was hard having 15 - 20 year olds testifying and changing their stories. In the end it was a sad state of affairs, but again you are presented with the law and you are to follow the law.

So that's my story.
Posted By: Todd3138 Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 02:27 PM
Originally Posted By: Bossone
I've served twice in the last 10 years. The first time was a DUI on an evening where we had 21 inches of snow (a record for us) and on the surface you would of concluded he was guilty, but after hearing the case against him and understanding the letter of the law and what "beyond a reasonable doubt was, he was found innocent.

My second time was a murder trial that involved gangs and bunch of kids at a party. It is amazing to really understand what goes on in our society. 10 bottles of hard liquor was stolen by a 15 yo and was consumed at the party that evening. Each day there were 5-7 deputies watching over things and then the evening we came to the verdict, there were over twenty officers guarding us and escorting us out of the court house via a back entrance. That was a bit unnerving and I made sure each night I wasn't followed. There was no doubt of his guilt but we had to determine whether it was first or second degree murder and after 4 hours we found him guilty of first degree. It was hard having 15 - 20 year olds testifying and changing their stories. In the end it was a sad state of affairs, but again you are presented with the law and you are to follow the law.

So that's my story.


Outstanding post, bossone. As a guy who makes my living largely by defending people accused of crimes, I have to tell you that your post defines the quality and true essence of what a juror should be. I wish I could always get juries with folks like you who are willing to actually do the job the right way and are not afraid to vote the facts, not the hype that so often is injected into the criminal process by special interests and the media. It sounds like you did exactly the right thing in both cases. Good for you.
Originally Posted By: Cisco
My first experience with it was right after I turned 18 and started voting. I'm a machinist and it seems a machine shop had burned. Twice. The owner had three different insurance policys or at least three different insurance companies were involved. The 4 attorneys(three were together against his) would get into an argument and the judge would dismiss the jury, we would return to court for about 15 minutes and then they'd argue again and we's go back to the jury room again. It went on for 2 1/2 weeks. Good thing was the balif was a lady and brought cookies, cakes, pies, etc! The shop owner was trying to get paid for machines from the SECOND fire that were still out being rebuilt from the first fire. What a scam but I did find out about how the justice system worked and about how it was suppose to work. All in all, I thought it was a good expierence. I been back to jury duty many more times and only picked one other time.
Sorry for a long story Cecil but you asked!!


Oh no, I love long stories although I really don't consider that one a long one. You should see the ones on the political sites I frequent. Really long rants and you can lay out the facts and they ignore you. If they're too long I just respond with a zzz... grin

So what was the decision if you don't mind saying? Do you think the guy was doing an insurance scam or was the insurance company just trying to get out of paying him?
Originally Posted By: esshup
Cecil, regular or Grand Jury?


Regular.
Originally Posted By: JKB
I got a letter once, back in the early 90's to set up an interview for jury duty. I waited till the very last moment to call them and they politely said something like Thank you for responding, If we need you, we will be in contact. Something like that... Never heard from them again.


I did get a questionnaire to fill out about 20 years ago. I told them I was would be happy to serve on jury duty, but if possible not the last two weeks of June as that was when I go on vacation. Guess what? Sometime later I get a letter saying to come in on a date that was the last two weeks of June! I call and the country clerk and she says not to worry, as I'm disqualified anyway due to religious reasons. Huh? I didn't question it, but there was nothing about religion in my questionnaire, only perhaps that I was against the death penalty, but I don't recall saying it was due to religious reasons. I decided not to push it as I was now free to go bluegill fishing in New England!
Originally Posted By: RAH
I seved once. If I am ever brought up on charges; if I am innocent, I want a judge-only trial, if I a guilty, I want a jury trial. I was amazed at the level of logic skills present in the average person selected for a jury. Wow!


Reminds me what happened to a taxidermist friend in Iowa that raises deer. His neighbor shot one of his expensive deer through the fence just for kicks. It went to a jury and Tom said they just had to have picked the dumbest people they could find for the jury. He said it really shook is faith in the justice system.

Anyway, Tom's expert witness that also raises expensive deer, was not able to show up at the last minute because his father suddenly died. Due to the lack of an expert witness he got a paltry amount of award money as the jury wouldn't believe that deer could be worth so much. If I remember right the shooter got off with a slap on the hand too.
Posted By: heybud Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/11/10 05:29 PM
Cecil, I have severed on three juries and was selected forman of each one of them. Not sure what about me makes people do that. Anyway try not to get selected forman, it is a thankless job.
Originally Posted By: heybud
Cecil, I have severed on three juries and was selected forman of each one of them. Not sure what about me makes people do that. Anyway try not to get selected forman, it is a thankless job.


That's been my life experience for volunteering. wink
No jury duty! Case was settled out of court.
That's a bummer Cecil, there goes your vacation. whistle
Posted By: heybud Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/22/10 09:41 PM
Yeah Cecil, You missed that 10 dollar pay day. Bummer
Posted By: CJBS2003 Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/23/10 03:31 AM
For some reason, every time I get picked for jury duty I never get selected during Voir Dire and get sent home... HAHA
Posted By: JKB Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/23/10 05:21 AM
You is a bad, bad, boy CJ. Glad I never got nailed speeding in WV, that would a hurt. My cruise control was at 80mph and occasionally you had to go around someone. IMO, the worst drivers on the planet live in Ohio. It really sucks going through that stretch, and even worse if they are on 75. I spent a couple days in Charleston, nice place and nice people. I had a good time down there, enjoyable. You need to get wider roads out there so I don't have to turn my truck around in a ditch, Really!
Just had jury duty Monday, third time never picked...
Originally Posted By: adirondack pond
That's a bummer Cecil, there goes your vacation. whistle


Yeah haven't had a vacation in years. It would have been something different from the daily grind. grin
Originally Posted By: CJBS2003
For some reason, every time I get picked for jury duty I never get selected during Voir Dire and get sent home... HAHA


Being a cop they know you've seen it like it is and can't be manipulated! wink
Originally Posted By: Bluegillerkiller
Just had jury duty Monday, third time never picked...


Wow they sure are wasting your time!
Originally Posted By: JKB
IMO, the worst drivers on the planet live in Ohio.


In the biggest town near me (Ft. Wayne), if there's an accident typically one of the cars is from Ohio. Of course driving in that city if you're not used to it can be confusing. The way some of the roads are set up, you have to wonder what the engineers were smoking when they designed them. There's a section of I-69 where the exit and entry ramp is at the same place! I kid you not! shocked
Originally Posted By: heybud
Yeah Cecil, You missed that 10 dollar pay day. Bummer


It's been bumped up to $40.00 per day with a free lunch! Whoo hoo!
Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
Originally Posted By: Bluegillerkiller
Just had jury duty Monday, third time never picked...


Wow they sure are wasting your time!


Tell me about it. They also said if you weren't picked expect to be back in October I was like WTF
Posted By: Bullhead Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/23/10 03:46 PM
I was on a jury in a personal injury case. They asked if any of us prospective jurors had any relationship to any of the attorneys. My son had taken the daughter of one of the attorneys to prom, but they didn't seem to think that was enough to disqualify me.
Somehow I got elected foreman. After we reached a verdict I was looking forward to the judge saying, "jury, have you reached and verdict?" and me standing up and saying, "we have your honor." But after we reached our verdict we were dismissed and weren't even in the building when it was read.
Anyway, the defendant had already been found guilty, but the plaintiff wasn't happy with the amount of money that was being offered. We the jury actually awarded the plaintiff less than the defendant had offered to pay before trial.
Posted By: Gflo Re: May first chance at jury duty coming up - 09/23/10 04:22 PM
I am only 23 years old, and I have been ordered to show up for jury duty three times already. What gives? Never had to actually serve though. They would send the letters to a residence I no longer lived at and once I told them I no longer lived in the county they excused me.
Originally Posted By: Gflo
I am only 23 years old, and I have been ordered to show up for jury duty three times already. What gives?


Just be glad we don't have the draft!

You reminded me of something that was funny when I was in the ANG. We had guys that were old enough to be my dad that had served in Vietnam. (Outstanding members as they had lots of experience on active duty). Master Sgt.'s and Senior Master Sgt.'s. Anyway, for some reason the so called 'random" drug tests seemed to favor those guys. Some of them would get so angry that they had been called in for a random drug test two or three drills in a row! They were the last people on earth that would be using drugs. Us younger guys thought it was quite the hoot!
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