Winterizing. Heater? or just leave pump running? - 11/11/17 03:44 PM
New user here, but no stranger to internet forums. I have gotten many of my questions answered here before via searching, but the questions I have now I am looking for more specifics based on my construction, as all ponds, climates, etc are all different.
I build a small ornamental/goldfish pond back in May this year. Has approx 800-1000sq ft surface area, and approx 15000 gallons.
Look at the first 3 pics to see.
Some background. This is my second koi/goldfish pond. My first one at my old house was around 3000 gallons, and about 3.5-4' deep and had a 1200gph pump that sat on the bottom, tee'd off for a waterfall feature and a fountain both. First winter I shut off the waterfall and left just the fountain running (I like the sound), and this resulted in a total fish kill. Circulating TOO much water off the bottom and not allowing that water to stay 38-40 degrees. I super-cooled all the water and the fish cannot survive in 32-34 degree water. At least this is what I was told. Going forward I only circulated just enough water to keep an opening in the ice. And those fish lived a happy 5 years before I moved.
So here we are at my current pond, 5x bigger. And currently have about 50 goldfish in there that are ~3-4" long.
Would it be acceptable to leave the pump run. All it does is feed the waterfall, no fountain. And more importantly, it is on a shelf at 2' depth. Below the shelf, the pond has a flat bottom approx 5' deep, 4' wide, and about 30' in length. So a good 3000 gallons of water BELOW where the pump draws. And the pump/waterfall are all at one end. And its a 3600gph pump.
In the last picture, you can see the construction of the pond. And the shelf on the left is the shelf that the pump sits on. Its in the bottom in the pic cause I was just testing the pump.
So....what would you guys do? Leave it run drawing water from the ~2' level at 3600gph? or would you remove pump and put a de-icer in which I am hoping I dont have to. But if so, what would you recommend.
And sorta related, at what point of pond size is keeping a hole in the Ice no longer a requirement? I live in central ohio. And while the last two winters have been mild, the "norm" is for a pond to freeze over for a month or so straight, and Ice 8-10" thick. Hundreds of farm ponds in my area that are great fishing holes, and freeze over with no worries at all?
I build a small ornamental/goldfish pond back in May this year. Has approx 800-1000sq ft surface area, and approx 15000 gallons.
Look at the first 3 pics to see.
Some background. This is my second koi/goldfish pond. My first one at my old house was around 3000 gallons, and about 3.5-4' deep and had a 1200gph pump that sat on the bottom, tee'd off for a waterfall feature and a fountain both. First winter I shut off the waterfall and left just the fountain running (I like the sound), and this resulted in a total fish kill. Circulating TOO much water off the bottom and not allowing that water to stay 38-40 degrees. I super-cooled all the water and the fish cannot survive in 32-34 degree water. At least this is what I was told. Going forward I only circulated just enough water to keep an opening in the ice. And those fish lived a happy 5 years before I moved.
So here we are at my current pond, 5x bigger. And currently have about 50 goldfish in there that are ~3-4" long.
Would it be acceptable to leave the pump run. All it does is feed the waterfall, no fountain. And more importantly, it is on a shelf at 2' depth. Below the shelf, the pond has a flat bottom approx 5' deep, 4' wide, and about 30' in length. So a good 3000 gallons of water BELOW where the pump draws. And the pump/waterfall are all at one end. And its a 3600gph pump.
In the last picture, you can see the construction of the pond. And the shelf on the left is the shelf that the pump sits on. Its in the bottom in the pic cause I was just testing the pump.
So....what would you guys do? Leave it run drawing water from the ~2' level at 3600gph? or would you remove pump and put a de-icer in which I am hoping I dont have to. But if so, what would you recommend.
And sorta related, at what point of pond size is keeping a hole in the Ice no longer a requirement? I live in central ohio. And while the last two winters have been mild, the "norm" is for a pond to freeze over for a month or so straight, and Ice 8-10" thick. Hundreds of farm ponds in my area that are great fishing holes, and freeze over with no worries at all?