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Posted By: FishinRod Proper Handling of Largemouth Bass - 11/27/15 11:32 PM
What is the proper way to lip a large bass for hook removal? Also, is it safe to weigh a large fish (or even a trophy BG) with a Boga-grip scale? (I want to keep accurate length/weight records when I finally have a finished pond to manage.)

I happened across an old thread, Pulled one off the bottom. that didn't get clearly resolved because the fish handling discussion did not match the Subject line. (It also got a little heated.)

I have always lipped big bass with my thumb in the center of the lower jaw and my right index finger running down the left side of the fish's jaw. It feels to me that I have very little pressure on the jaw, and the weight of the fish is hanging down the spine. Cecil said he frequently gets taxidermy fish with broken jaws. I wanted to re-open this topic in Q&O, since Mr. Baird has more knowledge in his pinkie toe than I have in my whole body.

I also know that we would all hate to damage a big fish that we were planning on returning to our pond - especially considering how much effort it took to raise that fish.
Posted By: jakeb Re: Proper Handling of Largemouth Bass - 11/29/15 07:50 PM
If I bring it out of the water I try to support it with my other hand under the belly for a picture. The best way to remove a hook is probably keeping it in a net and in the water. Keep as much of the fish in the water for as long as you can IMHO. Also when this fish in at least partially in the water, the water keeps the fish buoyant and reduces its weight. I don't know the proper terms, but just think as a kid in the pool you could lift other kids in the water, but when they got a large portion of their mass out of the water, they become too heavy to lift. My point is it is less hard on the fish to handle it by the jaw alone if it is in the water.

As far as getting a weight, you can keep it in the net and then subtract the weight of the net later. I have a net made of a silicone like substance that is supposed to be better on the fish than an old nylon net style.

Oh and I don't know if it helps but I don't like to push the fishes (tongue) area up. I know this is a common maneuver to keep the fish from moving, but I feel it is damaging. This is all just my opinion.

I know there is a movement in the fly fishing world called something like keep'em wet, or release'em wet. Where they promote never taking the fish out of the water at all, not for hook removal or for pictures.
Posted By: Cecil Baird1 Re: Proper Handling of Largemouth Bass - 11/30/15 02:51 AM
Originally Posted By: jakeb
If I bring it out of the water I try to support it with my other hand under the belly for a picture. The best way to remove a hook is probably keeping it in a net and in the water. Keep as much of the fish in the water for as long as you can IMHO. Also when this fish in at least partially in the water, the water keeps the fish buoyant and reduces its weight. I don't know the proper terms, but just think as a kid in the pool you could lift other kids in the water, but when they got a large portion of their mass out of the water, they become too heavy to lift. My point is it is less hard on the fish to handle it by the jaw alone if it is in the water.

As far as getting a weight, you can keep it in the net and then subtract the weight of the net later. I have a net made of a silicone like substance that is supposed to be better on the fish than an old nylon net style.

Oh and I don't know if it helps but I don't like to push the fishes (tongue) area up. I know this is a common maneuver to keep the fish from moving, but I feel it is damaging. This is all just my opinion.

I know there is a movement in the fly fishing world called something like keep'em wet, or release'em wet. Where they promote never taking the fish out of the water at all, not for hook removal or for pictures.


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Posted By: anthropic Re: Proper Handling of Largemouth Bass - 11/30/15 04:15 AM
I remember a big discussion on another fishing site when a 13 lb Texas LMB donated to Share a Lunker died due to a broken jaw.

In that case it had been held out at a 90 degree angle to the person by the jaw, without any other support, the absolute worst case scenario for large fish. frown
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