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Posted By: Bill Cody LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/03/04 01:03 AM
A recent study that raised largemouth bass in tanks and cages found that when the LMB (less than 12") were fed pellets (Aquamax 5D05 or Clear Choice 3) the food conversion ratios were 0.95 to 2.11. In most of the tests the food conversion ratios of these captive fish ranged between 1.11 to 1.71. This means that when feeding bass pellets one could get around one pound of bass growth for every 2 pounds of high protein pellets. Aquaculture magazine, Sept-Oct 2004, Vol 30: 8-15.
Posted By: Dave Davidson Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/03/04 12:18 PM
It would be interesting to continue the study for a number of years and to compare to a control group with an identical genetic background.
Posted By: Meadowlark Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/03/04 02:47 PM
Bill,

Are you aware of any studies which assess the "catchability" of LMB when provided access to pellet feed vs "catchability" without the presence of pellet feed. By catchability, I'm referring to the propensity of LMB to strike artificial lures/flies.

In my small world of ponds(3.5 acre, 1.5 acre, 1/2 acre, 1/4 acre), I have, like newbee above, experienced a significant decline in "catchability" of LMB when they are provided access to pellet feed.

At first, I attributed this to the stocking of Florida bass. However, upon transplanting native bass into the same environment, I'm now noticing the same thing occur. The bass simply won't go for artificials...it is much easier for them to eat pellet food and to catch bluegill when the
bluegill are eating the pellet food. A very disappointing development.
Posted By: Christopher Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/04/04 02:19 PM
so bass that were in a pond prior to supplemental feedings, will or will not start pellet feeding?.. i noticed its been harder to catch fish out of this pond.

chris
Posted By: Bill Cody Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/05/04 02:37 PM
See my lengthy post under the heading Questions & Observations topic "pellet eating LMB".

Meadowlark, My post as noted above pretty much explains what I see as happening in your pond with the bass beginning to ignore artificial lures/flies. I think what you are experiencing is a normal occurrance and some variations can occur which I tried to explain in the post. Why would you expect the bass, especially the larger ones, to continue to be eager to be "jerked around by the jaw"? I don't think it is a pleasant experience for them unless you can find some with masochistic tendencies. Step back and think about it. What would you do if you were a fat, lazy, bass in your pond?
Posted By: Meadowlark Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/05/04 05:17 PM
Bill,

I would do exactly as the Bass do...catch/eat that which is easiest and harms me the least. My point, which I'm really formulating in my own mind, is that maybe artificial feeding isn't necessarily consistent with the goals of raising and catching lots of bass....for the fun of it

I've just completed a DIY pond renovation....made a 1/4 acre old pond into a 2 acre new fish haven. I'm seriously considering not using any artificial feeding in this new pond, but concentrating instead on the natural food chain. I'll continue to artificially feed in my other 3.5 acre pond and admire the large fat uncatchable bass, but when I want to have fun on my fly rod, I believe the 1.5 acre pond will be the answer. Time will tell. Thanks for the discussion.
Posted By: Bill Cody Re: LM Bass Conversion Ratios - 11/05/04 08:09 PM
Meadowlark - Your point is correct and is what some of us have been saying or preaching often; each pondowner needs to first establish their GOALS in what they want in a fishery. Feeding pellets to fish does have its disadvantages, as you are describing in this topic. Everything you do in managing a pond has advantages and disadvantages. It is up to the manager to make the choices for what he wants as goals for the pond. Hopefully the homework is done first rather than later. This is a pretty good pond management forum for learning and exchanging ideas. By far, all things are not known about raising fish. We have a lot to still learn, investigate, and research. I think learning is what it is all about. Listen to someone with experience that has been through it before or learn by trial and error. Choices.

Hopefully you can experiment with your raising the bass in the 1.5 ac pond without pellets and compare the results with the other ponds you have. Keep GOOD NOTES; the memory gets foggy over time. Maybe even mark your bass to see how often the same ones are recaught. Then you can share your results with us. Trying different things in different ponds is how I obtained a lot of my practical exerience. However experimentation when raising fish does take time(a disadvantage)to see the results.
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