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Here's a 1 lb. 5 oz. Condello strain bluegill on my certified scale that was 9 7/8 inches on my board. He backed up a little when I took the picture to make him look like he's 10 inches. (No Eric I didn't smash his nose again the board to get a shorter length and therefore higher relative weight.) 146 percent? I seined my holding pond today in which I had temporarily moved about 50 large Condello strain bluegills this spring when I had problems with the biggest pond (five star moles boring though the top of the dike). Fortunately it wasn't as serious as I thought and repairs were done in early summer. However I didn't want to move them back to the big pond until now when water temps are cooler. This fish had much more intense colors at first but they faded as it lay in the bucket. I sold this one and another to another taxidermist for taxidermy competition purposes. $95.00 for two fish. Interesting thing about the bluegill and perch in this holding pond. They lost interest in pellets I am assuming due to the thousands of fathead minnows that reproduced in the pond. I'm sure the fatheads had something to do with this fish's weight as I believe I weighed him at not much over a pound this spring if he is the same fish. Bruce most of the other fish i got from you in the 4 inch range two springs ago are at or close to a pound now.
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TomG, we will need an alibi and at least two witnesses ...
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That pig must have some girth going on!
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That pig must have some girth going on! Absolutely!
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Cecil you sure you didn't recycle one of Bruce's pics. ? Nice fish - a real income producer.
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Wow, what a coinkydink. My computer blowed up on Saturday as well. Come to think of it, Tom G disappeared from the GSA's tracking system on Friday evening. And both of our computers blew up on Saturday? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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My computer and my youngest child's computer both blowed up at the same time. My wife is being very patient with us to use hers......
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Cecil you sure you didn't recycle one of Bruce's pics. ? Nice fish - a real income producer. Nope. No need to. With Bruce's genetics it's easy to duplicate his results. I think I'm going to poop my pants when i grow out a 2 lber though.
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Bruce, Any estimate on how much it would weight at 11 inches?
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Cecil - great CSBG! May I ask how old are these fish? I'm interested especially by virtue of Dr.Dave's comment about winter weigth gain? Our year and a half old Overton CNBG rapid growth has been in length, not width.
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My last two pounder was "only" about 11.25 inches. The other one was right at 12 inches.
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Cecil - great CSBG! May I ask how old are these fish? I'm interested especially by virtue of Dr.Dave's comment about winter weigth gain? Our year and a half old Overton CNBG rapid growth has been in length, not width. BUMP .... Cecil? Bruce?
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Bruce most of the other fish i got from you in the 4 inch range two springs ago are at or close to a pound now. Hatched three years ago, I would guess, george.
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My last two pounder was "only" about 11.25 inches. The other one was right at 12 inches. Bruce, how old was your CSBG when it hit the two pound 12 inch mark? Just dreaming about growing a 12 inch two pound CNBG ...
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Bruce most of the other fish i got from you in the 4 inch range two springs ago are at or close to a pound now. Hatched three years ago, I would guess, george. I believe that's right? Bruce actually probably knows better than I do. Bruce what year did Cody and I show up to pick up those 200 CSBG's? 2007? Sorry guys I'm lousy at record keeping.
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Thanks Cecil, our CNBG seem to hit about 9-10 inches at a year and half and then begin to get wider ahd heavier. I'm watching this 2008 class rather closely. Yours is a pig!
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My last two pounder was "only" about 11.25 inches. The other one was right at 12 inches. Bruce, how old was your CSBG when it hit the two pound 12 inch mark? Just dreaming about growing a 12 inch two pound CNBG ... I don’t believe Bruce wants us to know he raised his CSBG to 12 inches and two pounds in a year and a half. He has set the bar so high he doesn’t want us amateurs to become discouraged.
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Thanks Cecil, our CNBG seem to hit about 9-10 inches at a year and half and then begin to get wider ahd heavier. I'm watching this 2008 class rather closely. Yours is a pig! Wow 9 to 10 inches in a year and a half! What kind of lifespan do they have? Do you know?
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Thanks Cecil, our CNBG seem to hit about 9-10 inches at a year and half and then begin to get wider ahd heavier. I'm watching this 2008 class rather closely. Yours is a pig! Wow 9 to 10 inches in a year and a half! What kind of lifespan do they have? Do you know? Cecil, I don’t have the foggiest idea – that’s the reason I am asking so many questions. This 2008 class of all male CNBG were selected from some of Overton’s best and have seen remarkable growth. They are immature and just beginning to develop a “helmet” and broad copper bar. I’m hitting them hard with AQMX 600 and will continue feeding all winter. I am beginning to believe that WR’s based on length have no meaning since our CNBG hit 9-10 inches rather quickly and then hopefully get broader and wide as your CSBG. I’ll be observing them closely the next 12 months.
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Wow 9 to 10 inches in a year and a half! What kind of lifespan do they have? Do you know?
Much shorter than yours Cecil. In general , IIRC for the area (not George's ponds), ½ the age of those in Cecil's area (5-6 vs. 10-12). I will check that and post with results.
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Wow 9 to 10 inches in a year and a half! What kind of lifespan do they have? Do you know?
Much shorter than yours Cecil. In general , IIRC for the area (not George's ponds), ½ the age of those in Cecil's area (5-6 vs. 10-12). I will check that and post with results. Is 10 to 12 years fish in the wild vs. fed fish in ponds that have been selected for fast growth? I would assume fast growing fish may not live as long as their slower growing wild counterparts? ???
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Reported #s on fish (assume wild) and not in your and George's ponds. But I bet the ratio is close irrespective .
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Reported #s on fish (assume wild) and not in your and George's ponds. But I bet the ratio is close irrespective .
I have seen in literature that southern fish have a longer growing season but don't live as long as northern fish.
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