Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
MidwestCass, Bucyrus22B, Steve Clubb, macman59, jm96
18,483 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,944
Posts557,788
Members18,483
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,508
ewest 21,490
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,141
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 778 guests, and 246 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#483605 12/02/17 09:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
R
Fingerling
OP Offline
Fingerling
R
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
Assuming a pond with BG and also GSF, what do you think the odds are these little ones are pure bluegill?

Can one tell at this size? The picture doesnt show it well but they have the real pretty purplish iridesence



[Linked Image]
Redonthehead #483638 12/03/17 07:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
Hard to tell. If you have more pics please post them. Under normal conditions and equal and adequate numbers of BG and GSF most (a high %) offspring will be pure BG and pure GSF. A few may be HBG. Most of those look like BG to me but better pics would help.
















Redonthehead #483640 12/03/17 07:30 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,141
Likes: 488
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,141
Likes: 488
I agree with ewest. Those appear to be primarily BG and no GSF and lot likely HBG.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Bill Cody #483648 12/03/17 10:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
I would concur with the above two opinions but theirs hold a lot more credibility than mine.

GSF can have some vertical bars though not as common and not that pronounced. Those look like BG to me.

In my opinion you are most likely to get hybrids when either one of the species has limited availability of partners or turbid water or limited spawning areas where there can be some confusion involved in the process of spawning. Under normal spawning conditions each species will seek out their own kind so natural produced hybrids are reasonably rare.

I got lots of hybrids produced in my small 1/10th acre sediment pond but there were only a very few GSF so they had limited choices of partners and since it is a sediment pond periodically at times of high rain runoff there was great turbidity. Both these conditions is what I consider the reasons for so many hybrids.

Last edited by snrub; 12/03/17 10:36 PM.

John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Redonthehead #483713 12/04/17 05:18 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
R
Fingerling
OP Offline
Fingerling
R
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
Thanks for the input gentlemen. I will add a couple more photos but they may not be much better. One of what I think are GSF and the other BG. Also have a lot of large tadpoles, I assume are bullfrog. Some have back legs starting. I was surprised to learn via Google they will overwinter just fine.

GSF:


BG:


[Linked Image]
Redonthehead #483714 12/04/17 05:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
Looks like a fine crop of GSF (pic 1) , BG (pic 2) and a fat aspiring frog.
















ewest #483733 12/04/17 10:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
Yep, what ewest said on the fish.

Bullfrog tadpoles I think have to be able to over winter. They take two years to mature into a frog.


John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Redonthehead #483749 12/05/17 10:14 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
R
Fingerling
OP Offline
Fingerling
R
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 274
Likes: 5
Thanks again. I had drained this small 0.4 acre down to a puddle last Saturday when it was nice and intended on saving a bunch of the tadpoles and bluegill, but a bout of food poisoning/stomach flu knocked me on my arse. I didnt have a good sorting process, felt miserable and finally through in the towel Sunday. If they survive the low water/depleted oxygen and freezing temps later this week I will try again this weekend.


[Linked Image]
Redonthehead #483750 12/05/17 10:48 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
That sucks feeling bad when you have things you want to do. Heck it sucks even when you don't have anything to do! smirk

Hope you get to feeling better.

Bad thing about bad water conditions, BH and GSF will be among the last survivors. They are tough suckers. That is why they are about the only fish we will see in local seasonal creeks on a regular basis. Other fish might come up during a flood and last for a while. But the GSF and BH just hang in there when all the rest die.

Last edited by snrub; 12/05/17 10:50 AM.

John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Redonthehead #483767 12/05/17 02:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,490
Likes: 265
Get well soon. That is priority one.

















Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Froggy Joe
Recent Posts
What’s the easiest way to get rid of leaves
by Bill Cody - 04/18/24 08:53 PM
How many channel cats in 1/5 acre pond?
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/18/24 08:41 PM
1/4 HP pond aerator pump
by esshup - 04/18/24 06:58 PM
Hi there quick question on going forward
by Joe7328 - 04/18/24 11:49 AM
Chestnut other trees for wildlife
by Augie - 04/18/24 10:57 AM
How to catch Hybrid Striper
by Augie - 04/18/24 10:39 AM
No feed HSB or CC small pond?
by esshup - 04/18/24 10:02 AM
Buying LMB
by esshup - 04/18/24 09:56 AM
Braggin Time
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/18/24 07:12 AM
How many LMB to remove?
by Foozle - 04/18/24 05:59 AM
Opportunistic Munchers
by Snipe - 04/17/24 11:25 PM
EURYHALINE POND UPDATE
by Fishingadventure - 04/17/24 10:48 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5