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I remember a few months ago, Bob Lusk encountered a bluegill with a worm in its eye. As I recall from the thread several others had removed similar worms from fish. So I’m curious about what is the proper way to anesthetize a fish? If it is not necessary, how do you keep them from squirming during a procedure?
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Professinal use something known as MS-222 aka tricaine-finquel, but it's really expensive for the layman.
Clove oil works and I've even been told a low salt solution of about 0.5 % will calm down a fish. I can't verify that though.
Many people don't know just turning a fish upside down will calm stop it from squirming or jumping.
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How do you apply the clove oil? Just add it to the water?
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I didn't think of that CJ. I keep forgetting the ormanmental fish culturists can use all the things that aren't allowed for fish that may be destined for the table.  Of course in reality a lot of these drugs and chemicals can't be used because no one wants to spend the money on the testin, not necessarily because they harmful. Clove oil is a good example as it's used in cooking. Good link!
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I have bought most of my chemicals that I treat my fish with from them.
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Very cool, I learn something everytime I log in. While not fish related, if you are having dental pain from a lost filling or crack a tooth, clove oil is a good topical anesthetic and can buy you some time with less pain until you can get to the dentist
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I have bought most of my chemicals that I treat my fish with from them. Do they make you sign a chemical waver CJ? Or is it assumed since they are an ornamental supplier that you are raising ornamental fish? Just curious.
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No chemical waiver... I guess since it is qn ornamental supplier they assume you aren't using the chemicals on food fish. Most of my chemicals are used to treat forage fish I collect from the wild not would be food fish for humans.
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That's what I thought. Truthfully I wouldn't be afraid to use the chemicals for fish I would eat.
Like I said the main reason most of these are not allowed for food fish, is the expensive testing that needs to be done. There is not enough market in Aquaculture for the companies to justify the cost. Same goes with antibiotics. But of course you know this, I was stating it for the benefit of those that don't.
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Many chemical anesthetics have
been used on fish over the years.
Most have now been discarded or
are not widely used. The U.S. Food
and Drug Administration (FDA)
regulates which chemicals can be
used on food fish. When fish are
exposed to an anesthetic, residues
or metabolites of the substance
remain in the flesh for a period of
time until they are excreted or
metabolized. Therefore, FDA may
require a specific withdrawal time
before the animal can be used for
food or released into the environment
where it might be captured
for food.
Anesthetics are licensed for use in
food animals only after completing
a full drug development program
designed to protect the cultured
animals, human users, the
food chain, and the environment.
The program requires a wide
range of inputs from the drug
company, research scientists,
national agencies, and the farming
and feed industries. Licensing a
new drug is time consuming and
costly. Aquaculture is an important
industry worldwide, but it is
still relatively small compared to
other animal production industries
and the human medical
industry. For this reason, drug
companies have not been able to
justify the costs of licensing new
drugs because the expected financial
return is low. The only anesthetic
drug currently approved by
the FDA for use on food fish is tricaine
methanesulfonate (MS-222).http://srac.tamu.edu/index.cfm?CFID=2701...64b583b464c1b2d
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