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Wasn't really sure where to ask this so I put it here. I like many others have a high nutrient load from a farm run off area right next to my land. I think some experts here have said you can plant certain plants in that watershed area to help equal out that nutrient level before it gets to your pond. My question is this.

Can I do that same thing with lime rock? If I laid a bunch of lime rock gravel in that watershed area would that help with filtering the nutrients out before it gets to my pond? Or am I waaaaay off base on that? If I am what would be my best plan of action to help with this?

Thanks in advance for any input,

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It will help settle out the suspended sediments/nutrients, but I don't know if it will do anything for the dissolved nutrients.


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"Most lakes and ponds are a reflection of the watershed."



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As long as the nutrients aren't trapped in the material, they will flow right on by and into your pond.

Two things come to mind to help lower the nutrient load:
1. A planting of something very nutrient hungry, like hay or any other deep-rooted perennial crop between the farm outflow and your pond. Periodically harvest it and sell it/give it away to remove the plant material so it doesn't decompose and re-release it into the pond.
2. A settlement pond in which you grow plenty of water plants to do the same. Water lettuce or water hyacinth can remove quite a lot of nutrients, and is relatively easy to remove and compost. I think water hyacinth is illegal in some locations, so that may not be an option.

Otherwise if you have a surplus of watershed, divert the farm outflow away from you water someplace else.

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What is the distance from the farm field and your BOW?

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Originally Posted By: RC51
Wasn't really sure where to ask this so I put it here. I like many others have a high nutrient load from a farm run off area right next to my land. I think some experts here have said you can plant certain plants in that watershed area to help equal out that nutrient level before it gets to your pond. My question is this.

Can I do that same thing with lime rock? If I laid a bunch of lime rock gravel in that watershed area would that help with filtering the nutrients out before it gets to my pond? Or am I waaaaay off base on that? If I am what would be my best plan of action to help with this?

Thanks in advance for any input,

RC


Yes we call it a dutch connection. The rock needs to be calcite or calcium carbonate. It will bring the PH up and it will bring the PH down. Phosphorus that is soluble will become calcium/phosphate free nitrogen will become calcium/nitrate and so on. When soluble nutrients can be tied up by other covalent bonds that are stronger. Calcium carbonate has a very good bond when in a solution.

When the rain water that is high acid from carbon dioxide passes through calcite it neutralizes the rain. This product dos not make good concrete so you should be able to drop into the local concrete manufacture and ask for some top rock or calcium carbonate rock. They should hook you up. Stay away from calcium/mag or dolomite stone. It is more grey in colour and has much more magnesium in it.

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I think to have any real effect the stone has to be crushed fairly small to increase surface area. Maybe direct water I to a ditch filled with this crushed stone? Then direct the ditch into the pond or not. How long would the material last in effectiveness?

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Originally Posted By: mnfish
What is the distance from the farm field and your BOW?


MNFISH,

It's about 70 feet from his fence line through the woods to my pond. This area makes kind of a valley and I get a bit of run off from that particular spot. I would say 70 long and about 4 to 6 feet wide valley area.

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Originally Posted By: DonoBBD
Originally Posted By: RC51
Wasn't really sure where to ask this so I put it here. I like many others have a high nutrient load from a farm run off area right next to my land. I think some experts here have said you can plant certain plants in that watershed area to help equal out that nutrient level before it gets to your pond. My question is this.

Can I do that same thing with lime rock? If I laid a bunch of lime rock gravel in that watershed area would that help with filtering the nutrients out before it gets to my pond? Or am I waaaaay off base on that? If I am what would be my best plan of action to help with this?

Thanks in advance for any input,

RC


Yes we call it a dutch connection. The rock needs to be calcite or calcium carbonate. It will bring the PH up and it will bring the PH down. Phosphorus that is soluble will become calcium/phosphate free nitrogen will become calcium/nitrate and so on. When soluble nutrients can be tied up by other covalent bonds that are stronger. Calcium carbonate has a very good bond when in a solution.

When the rain water that is high acid from carbon dioxide passes through calcite it neutralizes the rain. This product dos not make good concrete so you should be able to drop into the local concrete manufacture and ask for some top rock or calcium carbonate rock. They should hook you up. Stay away from calcium/mag or dolomite stone. It is more grey in colour and has much more magnesium in it.

Cheers Don.


Don I wish I understood what you just said!! smile LOL!! Dang it!! The only rock I can get is Lime rock or crushed AG lime. I can get lime rock as small as 1/2 inch.

RC


The only difference between a rut and a Grave is the depth. So get up get out of that rut and get moving!! Time to work!!

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