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I remember that years ago there was a theory about why virtually all LMB over a certain size, perhaps three or so pounds, were female. One theory was that the males changed sexes after a certain age, or certain size, etc. Although I know this forum has discussed the fact that most large LMB are female I don't believe I've ever seen this sex change theory discussed here.
What is the current thinking on this?
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I think female LMB are just bigger than males, period. Especially Floridas.
IIRC Hemingway wrote about big Marlins changing sex AND species after they got so big. There was a lot of speculation in times past about stuff we now know ain't so.
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Another piece of the puzzle: generally speaking, most of the males have high natural mortality rates than females for many of our freshwater fishes (largemouth bass and walleye are two good examples). Higher mortality = shorter lifespan.
I'm not saying this is 100%, and I'm not saying it is the only factor involved, but it is true for quite a few fishes, and an important part of what we teaching our fisheries students.
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Just to add controversy and scandal, consider the female praying mantis; when she's done with the male, she's done with the male.
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
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I guess that explains the high mortality rate for males...
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This may help a little explain the process and about male's reduced LE. Outside of this type change I have not heard of LMB changing sex.
The Progressive Fish-Culturist 51:146-148, 1989
Hormonal Sex Control of Largemouth Bass
GARY P. GARRETT
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department
Hormonal control of sex of fishes is a field of
research that holds many potential benefits. Control
is accomplished by administering a specific
hormone to fry before sexual differentiation occurs.
The administered hormone predominates
over the relatively small amounts of genetically
determined hormones and induces development
of either testes or ovaries. Once developed, gonads
then determine adult sexual characteristics. Thus,
a sex-changed individual has the genotype of one
sex, but has the phenotypic characteristics of the
other.
Hormonal control of sex can be used to produce
unisexual populations. This would be useful in
eliminating reproduction (particularly where
overpopulation is a problem) and in increasing the
proportion of a desirable sex (Schreck 1974; Goudie
et al. 1983). Female largemouth bass (Micropterus
salmoides). for exam pic, seem to grow faster,
live longer, and generally be better fitted for survival
under adverse conditions than males (Padfield
1951). Thus, supplemental reservoir stockings
of all-female largemouth bass might lead to
increased survival and ultimately larger fish.
A potential problem with applying this technology
to largemouth bass was suggested by Chew
and Stanley's (1973) conclusion that, for blucgills
(Lepomis macrochirus). "sex does not appear to
be labile, and is not readily altered from female
to male.'* D
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Heck, over here we have intersex LMB! Eggs in the testes! Best of both worlds! (or worst???)
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