Pond Boss Forums GENERAL QUESTIONS Help Well Output Estimate to keep up with pond

Howdy Ya'll.

I got an estimate from the well guy and I just wanted to run these numbers pass your experience to see if the math is right. The driller quoted me 4000 for a 100 ft well- 4500 if it goes down to 150 or so with a 1 hp 20-28 gpm Red Jacket Well pump and pressurized tank system. At 8.5 amps and 230 voltage and .10 cent a KW he quoted me 60 month in electricity costs to run it 24/7 365 days a year- My math puts the number closer to 150 a month. The output will be about 28,000 gallons a day at 20 gpm- with a planned pond of 2 acres and a calculated loss of a half inch per day- the average daily loss should be about 30,000 gallons. This combined with a 10-15 acre watershed should keep it topped off Im hoping.
Is this Math okay for electricity usage and loss or Am I off? Does the price seem okay for the well? My other estimate was $10,000.

Anyone had Red Jackets pumps- Are they reliable?

I was hoping to use the constant source of water as a streaming water feature ending with a waterfall into the pond...Is this output good enough to supply that type of feature- Will I receive any beneficial aeration from the feature?

Much Obliged!

8.5 amp on 230 volt @ 10 cents per KW is 1226.68 KWH per month and $122.67 (per month)As far as beneficial aeration it would be minimal to none. If this well is for the pond only skip the pressure tank and just shoot it straight to the pond, your flow will be greater.

Thanks, I took a look at your store and Im liking the vertex system. Anybody take a look a look at the water loss calculations and whether they are accurate. Or the use of the well as a water feature.
Thanks

What factors did you use to calculate water loss? What time of year, or is that an average?

If you're talking strictly about evaporation, I think you are on the high side..

Interested in this tread as I am thinking of doing the same thing down the road. That is installing a well to keep the pond topped off and make a water feature out of it. Maybe a small pond with a water fall into the pond. Not to highjack this thread but would be interested in ideas for the water feature.

I was thinking a quarter inch per day average thru year for evaporation and another quarter inch for plant use and seepage. The south has high humidity 6 months of the year but it also is very hot in the summer. No worries lassig, the more people interested the better.

The calculations will allow me to decide whether to pressurize the system or not, im hoping to place the well on the highest point of the property and then direct part of the water to a gravity fed watering system for the alpacas and the other for the water feature and pond.

I have a second estimate coming today to use a Grundfos pump. Any thoughts on that pump type.

evaporation rates

I have no experience with that type of pump.

I have had no problems with my Red Jacket pumps.

Why the pressure tank? If the flow is unrestricted, the tank is just going to be empty anyway and providing no benefit. If you restrict your flow your pump will be shutting on and off costing you more money and reducing your pump life.

I have a similar setup and it can keep my 3 acre pond topped off in all but the most hot/dry weather (isn't much in Wisconsin). However, I have nearly zero loss through the soil, only evaporation.

The dissolved oxygen coming out of my well is very low, so I trickle the flow over some stones as it flows into the pond.

Great Site esshup- My area looks to have .13 inch evaporation a day so thats nice to see.

Arond- the pressure tank would allow me to use the water for other purposes as well like irrigating. But I would rather not wear down the pump either and My driller says there is less risk of me accidently tearing up the pump as well with a valve when a tank is attached???

I never wanted to irrigate the land much anyway so I may just stick with no pressure.

1/8" per day is a far cry from 1/2" per day!

The driller is correct. You could put a tank in there from the start. Arond is correct about more wear and tear on the pump starting and stopping all the time, but if you have large enough piping from the bladder tank to the pond the pump will run 100% of the time.

Stoney Creek http://www.stoneycreekequip.com/form/product_pond.htm has a float system that acts like a float in your toilet tank. It automatically turns on the water if the water in the pond drops below a certain level, and automatically shuts it off. I don't see it on their website, but it is in their paper catalog. The biggest one handles a lot more water than you'll ever pump.

If you think you might ever want to use the pump in the future for watering or something else, I'd throw the bladder tank and pressure valve on now. Just remember that you have to protect if from freezing if it ever gets that cold where you are at.