Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
araudy, Ponderific2024, MOLINER, BackyardKoi, Lumberman1985
18,501 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,962
Posts557,962
Members18,501
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,534
ewest 21,499
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,148
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 824 guests, and 256 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
esshup Offline OP
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
OP Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
As the subject line says, I'm looking for suggestions on how to reduce the P level (or to bind it and make it un available to plants and algae) in a pond.

This specific pond has a high nutrient load due to trees and bushes growing up to the waters edge for a good 80% of the pond shoreline. Plus it is right next to, and on the downslope side of a nursery. There is no visible runoff into the pond, but.........

I am looking at 2 products, Phosloc by SePRO and The Solution by UltraClear .

The 2 products are applied differently, Phosloc is mixed into a slurry and distributed, The Solution is a granular product that is spread out over the pond surface.

After doing some reading, I'm wondering if spreading out Alum at the rate of 40# per ac/ft of water would do the same thing?

Rex, Bill, Bob, Nate, Greg or anybody else have any experience binding up P in a pond?


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,099
Likes: 23
R
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame
Lunker
R
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,099
Likes: 23
Scott, I would personally use the alum/hydrated lime at 40-60# alum and 50% by weight H lime per acre foot....I didn't see costs of the Phosloc but did notice there IS a toxicity level (just played down in literature) and the cost of ultraclear is much higher than alum/H lime.

Treating with an algaecide first would be a good idea as would broadcast spreading granular alum over the suspected watershed inflow area to bind new P entering the pond in future rain events and as an ongoing management program.

Minimal floc will occur at the 40-60# per acre foot rate, yet some floc may be desired as well....if desired, double the app rate.



Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
esshup Offline OP
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
OP Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,534
Likes: 842
Thanks Rex. Watershed is pretty much unpenetrable brush/trees. I doubt that any surface water is reaching the pond from the nursery. Pond has been treated with algacide already, visibility is 7' on secchi disk (disk laying on pond bottom in deepest part).


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Along with what Rex says alum binds with phosphorus and produces a compound know as aluminum phosphate making the phosphorus unavailable. It was used on an Indiana lake by the INDNR a few years back with good results. Unfortunately I don't remember the name of the lake. I could find out if you want me to.

My thinking is these commercial products are nothing more than repackaged alum or a similar product and marked up in price; good ol' capitalism.

Here's some good reading on the subject:

http://www.marinebiochemists.com/phosarticle.html

https://www.soils.org/publications/jeq/pdfs/33/6/2040

Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 09/08/12 10:25 AM.

If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 31
M
Offline
M
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 31
So could something so simple as adding alum to a eutrophic pond really bind phosphorus and help to give me algae controll? Ive only heard of alum for clearing up murky water.


1.4 acre pond, bass and bluegill, NC
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame
Lunker
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 20,043
Likes: 1
Yes.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.







Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Hawkeye in Ohio, JStephens, optimalfishfood
Recent Posts
YP Growth: Height vs. Length
by Bill Cody - 04/25/24 08:15 PM
Inland Silver sided shiner
by Bill Cody - 04/25/24 08:09 PM
New pond leaking to new house 60 ft away
by JabariStokes - 04/25/24 07:30 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by FishinRod - 04/25/24 03:24 PM
1/2 Acre Pond Build
by Lumberman1985 - 04/25/24 03:01 PM
Low Alkalinity
by ewest - 04/25/24 02:13 PM
Howdy from West Central Louisiana
by ewest - 04/25/24 02:07 PM
Prayers needed
by Zep - 04/25/24 10:36 AM
Caught a couple nice bass lately...
by Dave Davidson1 - 04/24/24 03:39 PM
Happy Birthday Sparkplug!
by ewest - 04/24/24 11:21 AM
What’s the easiest way to get rid of leaves
by esshup - 04/23/24 10:00 PM
Concrete pond construction
by FishinRod - 04/23/24 09:40 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5