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Originally posted by Shorty:
Tecohorn, Rudds can hybridize with golden shinners, here is more info.

http://seagrant.psu.edu/publications/fs/Rudd_12-2003.pdf
Thanks for all the info... I'm will trap a few more in an hour or so and really study them and post some more pic's.. And maybe with the help of everyone we can 100% ID them..
All the info I've seen so far is pointing to pure redfin shiners..

Redfin Shiner
Notropis umbratilis
Characteristics - back is bluish-silvery with more silver on the sides and white beneath, prominent black spot at the frontal base of the dorsal fin which extends into the first few rays, mouth is terminal..


I also have a bunch of Blacktail Shiner's as well.. They are easy to spot though because of the black spot near the tail... They get 4 inches long..