Still experimenting. I tried an inexpensive 490-4 with cheap, 5 wt WF floating line yesterday. Too windy for amature fly fishing, but when I caught the wind just right,I got "great" distance. I caught an averagee BG, then a small LMB that jumped like crazy, then got a nice BG on but lost it when my knot came untied. I've had a lot of trouble with my poorly tied improved cinch knots coming untied, so I've tried the Davy knot. It's a simple knot, but I still managed to mess it up. Just the same, it was fun, even if it was frustrating.